[Ironpython-users] ipy64 Unicode file vs. pipe

Curt Hagenlocher curt at hagenlocher.org
Thu Apr 4 14:59:12 CEST 2013


The culprit here is actually Powershell, which likes to convert text output
to UTF-16. I bet you won't see this if you run from cmd.exe.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Markus Schaber <m.schaber at codesys.com>wrote:

>  Hi, Slide,****
>
> Hi, Malcolm,****
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> ** **
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> Both Python and .NET itself have some heuristics to determine the output
> encoding on stdout.****
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> ** **
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> And it's well possible that this heuristics get confused depending on the
> locale or other settings.****
>
> ** **
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> However, this seems to be specific to the machine – on my machine (using
> the Cygwin od.exe), the problem does not appear:****
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> D:\ipytest>"c:\Program Files (x86)\IronPython 2.7\ipy64.exe" -c "print
> 'hello'" | c:\cygwin\bin\od.exe -x****
>
> 0000000 6568 6c6c 0d6f 000a****
>
> 0000007****
>
> ** **
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> D:\ipytest>"c:\Program Files (x86)\IronPython 2.7\ipy64.exe" -c "print
> 'hello'" > foo.txt****
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> ** **
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> D:\ipytest>c:\cygwin\bin\od.exe -x foo.txt****
>
> 0000000 6568 6c6c 0d6f 000a****
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> 0000007****
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> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 4. April 2013 00:32
> *An:* malcolm at ieee.org
> *Cc:* ironpython-users at python.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [Ironpython-users] ipy64 Unicode file vs. pipe****
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> Pipe vs. file differences would probably be the realm of the shell you are
> running under, not ipy. To ipy, its just stdout.****
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> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Malcolm Slaney <malcolmslaney at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Maybe this is well known, but I couldn't find it on the web.
>
> Iron Python is pretty wonderful, but it gave me very confusing output.  It
> likes Unicode.  But I don't want Unicode output.  All my output (as part of
> a processing chain) are numbers and spaces.   ASCII is good for this (and
> that's what the other tools want.)
>
> If I run a simple command and send the output to a file I get Unicode. But
> the exact same command when sent to a pipe gives me ASCII.  ARGGHH.   Took
> me a long time to figure out this simple test case.
>
> This behavior should be (better) documented.  Hopefully this email will
> save
> somebody else a lot of head scratching.
>
> - Malcolm
> P.S.  The example below uses the Gnu on  Windows command od to display the
> actual contents of the file in hex.  The first example shows ASCII output,
> while the second output looks like Unicode to me.
>
>
>
> PS Z:\PitchTracking> ipy64.exe -c "print 'hello'" | od -x
> 0000000 6568 6c6c 0d6f 000a
> 0000007
>
> PS Z:\PitchTracking> ipy64.exe -c "print 'hello'" > junk
> PS Z:\PitchTracking> od -x junk
> 0000000 feff 0068 0065 006c 006c 006f 000d 000a
> 0000020
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