[IronPython] VS 2010 Integrated Shell question

Lukáš Duběda loocas at duber.cz
Wed Apr 13 18:59:18 CEST 2011


Thanks Markus, for the explanation.

So, basically, if I buy the VS 2010 Professional,
I'll get both, the IronPython tools support as well as
the ability to design WPF or WinForms applications?

Thanks again, much appretiated,

Lukáš Duběda
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On 13.4.2011 9:41, Markus Schaber wrote:
> Hi, Lukáš,
>
> The restriction here is not within IronPython tools, but within Visual Studio Express.
>
> Microsoft released the free (as in "free beer") express editions with artificial restrictions. (My personal guess is that one reason is to prevent other free IDEs from gaining enough momentum that they can start rivaling the commercial editions, and another one is that their marketers can argument "there are powerful free development tools for .NET", so students etc. don't go to Java (Eclipse, Netbeans), or Linux.).
>
> One of those restrictions is that they only support one language (one cannot edit C# and VB projects in the same running instance, even when both editions are installed), another one is that no plugins are allowed.
>
> Those restrictions are meant to motivate "power users" (or any serious user) to buy the commercial versions.
>
> The "integrated Shell" is the unrestricted, but barebone framework / environment without any languages and plugins, they release it for free to 3rd party vendors (like IronPython tools, or Delphi Prism), to bind them to their framework and platform.
>
> Regards,
> Markus
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-
>> bounces at lists.ironpython.com] Im Auftrag von Lukáš Dubeda
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. April 2011 19:28
>> An: Discussion of IronPython
>> Betreff: [IronPython] VS 2010 Integrated Shell question
>>
>> Hi there everyone,
>>
>> I have a, perhaps lame, question.
>>
>> I downloaded the VS 2010 Integrated Shell and installed the IronPython
>> tools for it.
>>
>> However, does the VS 2010 IS have a WPF and WinForms designer? I can't
>> seem to get it working. :(
>>
>> Also, the IPy tools are available only for the Integrated Shell and actual
>> commercial versions of Visual Studio, is that right?
>>
>> I'm asking because I get both WPF and WinForms designers in the Visual
>> Studio 2010 C# Express, but it's a pain to design my GUI in one package
>> and write IPy code for it in another.
>>
>> Is there any solution for this?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance, cheers,
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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