[IronPython] Announcing IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1

Mon Mar 30 10:28:55 CEST 2009

I think Intellisense is critical for static language development -
especially since we have to put up with compilation there. In dynamic
language, we have REPL - now that's a productivity feature.
Anyway, I wish the DynamicPageFilter module (the one powering IP ASP.Net)
has the same source policy as IP or MVC for ASP.Net. This way we can patch
the runtime ourselves to keep it up to date with the latest IronPython
gizmos. One other way out for this is to use NWSGI.Net and build yet another
web framework on top of Python that uses asp.net existing components;which
should be fun but I rather build some cool applications than building a
framework.

Dody G.

2009/3/30 Leighton Haynes <LHaynes at gemcomsoftware.com>

>  I have to say – Intellisense is very high on our wishlist – we have many
> developers unfamiliar with Python, and Intellisense would ease the
> transition a lot.
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> Cheers,
>
> Leighton Haynes
>
> Gemcom Software International
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> *From:* users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:
> users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] *On Behalf Of *curtin at acm.org
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 March 2009 6:55 AM
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> *To:* Discussion of IronPython
> *Subject:* Re: [IronPython] Announcing IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1
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> Intellisense is a cosmetic feature at best. It's obviously nice to have,
> but it can't actually be *that* important to anyone...it's not like the
> information isn't available via other means.
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>  2009/3/29 Howland-Rose, Kyle <Kyle.Howland-Rose at aar.com.au>
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> Hi Adam,
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> About "intellisense is not a major blocker for iron python adoption".
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> Unfortunately I think it might be.  The commercial world is all about
> productivity.  I did a survey at work about replacing a well-known
> development environment with eclipse and the result was "our only real
> requirement is intellisense".
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>
> Cheers,
>
> Kyle
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> *From:* users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:
> users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] *On Behalf Of *Dody Gunawinata
>
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 March 2009 6:57 AM
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> *To:* Discussion of IronPython
> *Subject:* Re: [IronPython] Announcing IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1
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> I think the fact that there are more users for "Assembly for Web Pages" and
> "AJAX on ALGOL" than IronPython for ASP.Net contributes to the delay in
> updates. It's too bad for us that got addicted to the elegance of the
> solution in the first place. I remember a couple of months ago about updated
> support for intellisense in IP for ASP.Net, etc. Those are nice to have but
> I think an updated IP would be enough to make everybody involved ecstatic. I
> got a feeling intellisense is not a major blocker for iron python adoption.
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> 2009/3/28 Adam Brand <adamb at silverkeytech.com>
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> Any update on the timeline for getting IronPython for ASP.Net updated? This
> would make a world of difference for our IronPython-based web app.
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>
> Adam
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> Adam Brand
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> SilverKey Technologies
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> *From:* users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:
> users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] *On Behalf Of *Dody Gunawinata
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:09 PM
> *To:* Discussion of IronPython
> *Subject:* Re: [IronPython] Announcing IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1
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> This is awesome. Web application can benefit from this "adaptive
> compilation" approach a lot - especially for low trafficked sites.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Giles Thomas <
> giles.thomas at resolversystems.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> This is great news, congratulations to the IP team on this release! We'll
> do a test-port of Resolver One early next week and will reply to the list
> with any issues we find.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giles
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>
> Dave Fugate wrote:
>
> Hello Python Community,
>
> We’re pleased to announce the release of IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1. As you
> might imagine, this release is all about supporting new CPython 2.6 features
> such as the ‘bytes’ and ‘bytearray’ types (PEP 3112), decorators for classes
> (PEP 3129), advanced string formatting (PEP 3101), etc. The minimum .NET
> version required for this release is the same as IronPython 2.0; namely .NET
> 2.0 Service Pack 1. Unlike the 2.0 series of IronPython, we plan to release
> only a couple Alphas and Betas of IronPython 2.6. As such, it’s key that we
> get your feedback on the release(s) quickly to incorporate requested
> changes.
>
> Besides CPython 2.6 features, another significant change in this release is
> that ipy.exe now uses “adaptive compilation” by default. Adaptive
> compilation is a technique in which IronPython:
>
> 1. Interprets and executes Python method calls up to /N/ times for a given
> method. If you’re only going to execute a method a few times, it’s typically
> faster to interpret the method instead of compiling and executing it
>
> 2. Compiles and executes the Python method call on the /N+1/ invocation of
> the method. Compilation of a Python method is a heavyweight operation, but
> we can reuse the result for subsequent invocations
>
> 3. Reuses the previously compiled method for new calls to the Python
> method. This operation is much faster than interpreting the method call as
> the method was already compiled in the previous step
>
> The reason for this change is that it provides a nice performance gain for
> Python code containing lots of functions/methods that only get called a few
> times. All this said, this feature is still undergoing active development
> and as a consequence some Python scripts may actually run slower with it
> turned on. For this reason, our old default mode of running Python scripts
> is still available by passing the –O or -D flags to ipy.exe. Any feedback on
> how this new feature affects your IronPython applications performance-wise
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> There’s also a few minor changes since IronPython 2.0.1 that are worth
> calling out here:
>
> · IronPython.msi now installs NGEN’ed binaries by default
>
> · IronPython.msi now offers a little more selection with respect to what
> you’d like to install. For example, Silverlight templates are optional
>
> · The default installation location of IronPython.msi no longer indicates
> whether the 2.6 release is an Alpha, Beta, or a patched release. Future
> IronPython 2.6 installations will replace previous 2.6 releases which will
> be uninstalled automatically
>
> · The -X:PreferComInteropAssembly flag has been removed. All COM interop is
> now done through normal COM dispatch
>
> You can download IronPython 2.6 Alpha 1 at:
> http://ironpython.codeplex.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=22982
>
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