[IronPython] Standard Python Debugging not supported

Jeff Griffiths jeffg at activestate.com
Wed Oct 4 20:56:21 CEST 2006


+1. The lack of sys.settrace is the main blocker to getting ipy 
debugging support in Komodo, ie getting it to look and feel to Komodo 
like any other Python.

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Jeff Griffiths
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Dino Viehland wrote:
> We have a couple of bugs opened on this on CodePlex for this issue:
> 
> 563: Support for Code Quality Tools in IronPython missing<http://www.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython&WorkItemId=563>
> 1042: Implement various sys module methods that currently throw a NotImplementedException<http://www.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython&WorkItemId=1042>
> 
> We believe we know how to implement sys.settrace (we'd hook it at the same place we hook 
our recursion checks today) but we haven't had time to get to it yet. 
Currently this is
scheduled in our bug database as 1.1 feature (although that may be 
subject to change) but
it's good to note that we are seeing additional demand for these APIs. 
This will help us
prioritize our 1.1 work better.  Hopefully we'll be able to get this in 
for 1.1 so it'll
be just a short term limitation.  Thanks for the input!
> 
> 
> From: users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Yves MENGANT
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:39 AM
> To: users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com
> Subject: [IronPython] Standard Python Debugging not supported
> 
> I have been playing around with python debugging implementation for a while , allthough IronPython is a great effort on Python implementation , lacking support for  some cross platform standard libraries leeds to to serious limitation in ironpython usage versus Cpython on short and long term.
> 
> One of the big missing is definitively the the sys.settrace standard function used inside bdb.py and so inherited by python debugging tools on the planet as a python standard debugging API entry point for years.
> 
> The consequence to this is that trying to support IronPython in a python portable debugging environment will fail(see below) .... And the only reminding platform to make debugging happen will be the Visual Studio environment .... Even the standard pdb.py which inherits bdb.py would not be usable on short term then.
> 
> Providing a descent implementation of those low level sys.function as it is already available within JPython port would definitively provide more support of IronPython by existing python debugger's on the planet.
> 
> Of xourse sys.settrace is part of the current sys implementation but when it comes to get executed it's disappointing :
> 
> localDebuggee= None
> JPyDbg connecting  localhost  on port  29111
> JPyDbgI0001 : connected to  localhost
> ['Traceback (most recent call last):
> ', '  File "F:\\IronPython-1.0\\Lib\\bdb.py", line 361, in run
>     sys.settrace(self.trace_dispatch)
> ', 'NotImplementedError: sys.settrace is not yet supported by IronPython
> ']
> '+++ JPy/sessionended/
> deamon ended
> 
> The not yet supported by IronPython is not really an expected serious implementation ... This makes
>  VisualStudio as the only python Debugger able to support IronPython in future :
> 
> Question is this a strategy or just a short term limitation that will be covered soon ?
> 
> Thanks for your support to Python language
> Jean-Yves
> 
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