[IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
Freddie Witherden
freddiewitherden at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 14 22:54:44 CEST 2005
Something like that would be amazing, has anyone ever used Boa Constructor
(it is like visual studio but for python/wxwidgets (wxpython). Amazing tool,
but something to convert form designs from form designer into ironpython
code would be great. A new project anyone?
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>Hi Freddie,
>
>Actually you can write the script in a .py file and have IronPythonConsole
>run it for you.
>
>You can code the script in any text editor [or code editor] you want and
>save it as .py [actually its not mandatory to save as .py any extension
>will do]
>then, in the command line, type in
>
>IronPythonConsole your-file.py
>
>and it will run it for you.
>
>You can actually split your code into multiple files and use 'import' to
>include the code.
>
>For Forms Designer, you could use Visual C# to generate the 'controls
>layout' code for you, then copy and paste it in the .py file, restructure a
>little and remove the semi-colons and news and extra class names and it
>will work. I actually started thinking about a C# to python code converter
>for the 'controls layout' code generated by the Windows Forms designer
>because its very boring and tedious to do manual conversions [which
>generally involve deletions :-)].
>
>I actually did the above using SharpDevelop's Form Designer.
>[http://icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx].
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>-- Richard Hsu.
>
>[Note. it would be really nice to tie together MyXaml + SharpDevelop +
>IronPython. Ideas anyone ?]
>
>>Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:22:00 +0000
>>From: "Freddie Witherden" <freddiewitherden at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
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>>Namespaces are the biggest problem, LoadAssemblyByName and importing
>>modules are always a paint for me. The 'editor' or command line tool is
>>also a bit annoying as you can not copy or paste text from/to it which
>>makes it harder to work with, but when I had a poke about with MSIL
>>Disassembler I found: IronPythonConsole.FancyConsole, is this some kind of
>>more advanced console, as I often make a lot of small programs in
>>IronPython to test things about and something like a nicer IDE would be
>>great, it is not like Jython where I can get a book so better
>>documentation would go a long way.
>>
>>
>>
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>>>Hi Freddie,
>>>
>>>Below is the working code. I would be interested to hear what you had
>>>most problems with. Common difficulty is the LoadAssemblyByName
>>>function. Feel free to post feedback to this discussion alias. We are
>>>interested to hear what roadblocks developers encounter as they try to
>>>use IronPython.
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>import sys
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName("System.Drawing")
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName("System.Windows.Forms")
>>>
>>>import System
>>>
>>>
>>>from System.Drawing import Point
>>>from System.Windows.Forms import Form, Button, Application
>>
>>
>>>def on_click(*args):
>>> Application.Exit()
>>>
>>>frm = Form(Text = "Hello World")
>>>btn = Button(Text = "Goodbye", Location = Point(50,50))
>>>
>>>btn.Click += on_click
>>>frm.Controls.Add(btn)
>>>
>>>Application.Run(frm)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Freddie Witherden Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, I am trying to convert a very simple C# windows form test
>>>>that I made into IronPython (to see that it can be done).
>>>>However I have tried over 20 different ways with no luck. Can
>>>>anyone help me? There is very very little documentation on
>>>>IronPython, which I think needs to be addressed. The code
>>>>is:
>>>>using System;
>>>>using System.Drawing;
>>>>using System.Windows.Forms;
>>>>
>>>>namespace WinForms
>>>>{
>>>> public class HelloWorld : System.Windows.Forms.Form
>>>> {
>>>>
>>>> private Button btn;
>>>>
>>>> public HelloWorld()
>>>> {
>>>> Text = "Hello World";
>>>>
>>>> btn = new Button();
>>>> btn.Location = new Point(50,50);
>>>> btn.Text = "Goodbye";
>>>> btn.Click += new System.EventHandler(btn_Click);
>>>>
>>>> Controls.Add(btn);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> static void Main()
>>>> {
>>>> Application.Run(new HelloWorld());
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> private void btn_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
>>>> {
>>>> Application.Exit();
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>}
>>>>
>>>>
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:47:39 +0000
>>From: "Freddie Witherden" <freddiewitherden at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
>>To: users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com
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>>.net is a lot like Java, and we can be quite sure that many moons ago the
>>JPython team (as it was then known) had the same problem with Java
>>modules, and probably had a long and heated debate about it so I think we
>>should do it 'the Jython way' as there have never been any problems with
>>it and lots of people use Jython so it must work.
>>
>>
>>
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>>>We clearly need a better design than the current sys.LoadAssembly*
>>>methods. For one thing, we shouldn't really be adding these to the
>>>existing sys module but putting new methods like this in a new IronPython
>>>module. As you point out, we should also do a better job of making this
>>>as invisible to the user as possible.
>>>
>>>In IronPython-0.6, a much larger number of assemblies were automatically
>>>searched for - including the two shown below. This meant that this
>>>particular program could run without any of this nonsense. The problem
>>>here was that this just delayed the issue of people learning about this
>>>issue and made things even more confusing when they wanted to use an
>>>assembly that wasn't in the known list. I decided that at this stage it
>>>was better to raise this issue front-and-center so that people would be
>>>aware of it and hopefully get quickly familiar with it. The other reason
>>>I wanted to make this more explicit was in the hopes that it would spur
>>>discussion about better ways of solving the problem.
>>>
>>>I'm certain that sys.LoadAssembly* is not what will ship with
>>>IronPython-1.0. Here are a few possible options in no particular order.
>>>
>>>1. Guess the assembly based on the path, i.e. import System.Drawing will
>>>try to load "System.Drawing". This would be great if it was a naming
>>>convention that was consistently followed, but alas it is a rule that is
>>>so consistently broken I'm doubtful of the benefits.
>>>
>>>2. Add a config file to specific a large set of default known assemblies
>>>and have the user extend this with their own. This ties scripts and
>>>config files together in a deeper way than I'd prefer.
>>>
>>>3. Extend import, i.e. import System.Drawing from System.Drawing. Of
>>>course, the most obvious ways to do this are a change to the Python
>>>language.
>>>
>>>4. Search some well-known directories to come up with a list of known
>>>assemblies and their types and then load assemblies strictly as needed
>>>for imports. This would add many seconds to start-up time unless this
>>>information is cached and caches are their own source of trouble. FYI -
>>>This is closest to what Jython does.
>>>
>>>5. I'm sure there are other good ideas out there...
>>>
>>>There's a whole separate question as to whether or not any loading by
>>>partial name is too dangerous even as explicit as it is today, see here:
>>>
>>>http://blogs.msdn.com/suzcook/archive/2003/05/30/57159.aspx
>>>
>>>Thanks - Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________________
>>>From: users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com
>>>[mailto:users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of
>>>Keith J. Farmer
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 1:36 PM
>>>To: Discussion of IronPython
>>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
>>>
>>>Out of curiosity, would it be possible to get IronPython to make a
>>>best-guess attempt at automatically loading an appropriate assembly, if
>>>it discovers that it doesn't know the namespace?
>>>
>>>This could alleviate the problems people have with remembering
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName.
>>>
>>>________________________________________
>>>From: users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com on behalf of
>>>Martin Maly
>>>Sent: Wed 7/6/2005 1:13 PM
>>>import sys
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName("System.Drawing")
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName("System.Windows.Forms")
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:52:08 -0700
>>From: Martin Maly <martmaly at exchange.microsoft.com>
>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Documentation
>>To: "Discussion of IronPython"
>> <users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com>
>>Message-ID:
>> <1DFB396200705E46B5338CA4B2E25BDE3D926E at DF-BANDIT-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
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>>As of this moment there is no official documentation project under way
>>except
>>for the readme that is part of the distribution. The readme gives few
>>examples
>>and covers LoadAssemblyByName. Overall, the documentation story as of
>>now is
>>not a very good one and we need to improve it.
>>
>>As for IronPython and WinForms, I have been successful finding all
>>answers to my
>>WinForms related problems in MSDN documentation. Granted, the
>>documentation shows
>>examples with VB and C#, but the class hierarchy and general information
>>how to use
>>WinForms does apply to IronPython very well.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com
>>>[mailto:users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of
>>>Freddie Witherden
>>>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:57 AM
>>>To: users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com
>>>Subject: [IronPython] Documentation
>>>
>>>Hi, I would like to know if there is currently any form of documentation
>>>project running for IronPython. As, while I am very fond of it there are
>>>a few things that do need to be documented, eg import sys
>>>sys.LoadAssemblyByName()
>>>As LoadAssemblyByName is not a standard method of the sys object. It
>>>would be nice to have some information on windows forms which are also a
>>>'special' feature of IronPython.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:54:02 -0700
>>From: Martin Maly <martmaly at exchange.microsoft.com>
>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
>>To: "Discussion of IronPython"
>> <users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com>
>>Message-ID:
>> <1DFB396200705E46B5338CA4B2E25BDE3D9271 at DF-BANDIT-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
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>>The command line tool that comes with IronPython runs in the standard
>>Windows console.
>>You can set up the console to allow copy'n' paste. To do that:
>>
>>left click on the icon on the upper-left corner of the console window
>>select "Defaults"
>>Check "Quick edit mode"
>>Restart the IronPython.
>>
>>Then you can use mouse to select area on the console. Right click (or
>>Enter) will copy to clipboard
>>and another right click of the mouse will insert the text as a console
>>input. I find this very useful
>>when using the IronPython console.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com
>>>[mailto:users-ironpython.com-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of
>>>Freddie Witherden
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:22 PM
>>>To: users-ironpython.com at lists.ironpython.com
>>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Making A Windows Form App
>>>
>>>Namespaces are the biggest problem, LoadAssemblyByName and importing
>>>modules are always a paint for me. The 'editor' or command line tool is
>>>also a bit annoying as you can not copy or paste text from/to it which
>>>makes it harder to work with, but when I had a poke about with MSIL
>>>Disassembler I found: IronPythonConsole.FancyConsole, is this some kind
>>>of more advanced console, as I often make a lot of small programs in
>>>IronPython to test things about and something like a nicer IDE would be
>>>great, it is not like Jython where I can get a book so better
>>>documentation would go a long way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:10:03 -0700
>>From: Martin Maly <martmaly at exchange.microsoft.com>
>>Subject: RE: [IronPython] Embedding.
>>To: "Discussion of IronPython"
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>>Sorry for the delay in responding, Alan.
>>
>>For the simplest scenarios you don't need to initialize PythonEngine.
>>For example, consider:
>>
>>class Program {
>> static void Main(string[] args) {
>> PythonEngine e = new PythonEngine();
>> object r = e.Evaluate("2+2"); //r == 4
>> }
>>}
>>
>>For the more complicated cases, initialization is often necessary (for
>>example to execute scripts that import modules and need sys.path
>>initialized etc. You can refer to PythonCommandLine.cs to see how the
>>IronPythonConsole initializes the PythonEngine. Essentially, we set up
>>things
>>
>>1) The sys.path variable (via PythonEngine.AddToPath method)
>>2) further setup of sys module (via PythonEngine.InitializeModules
>>method)
>> - this sets up sys.version, sys.prefix, sys.executable and
>>sys.exec_prefix attributes
>>3) import site.py (via PythonEngine.ImportSite method)
>>
>>The interactive initialization is slightly different, but essentially
>>this is all that is needed to get IronPython engine initialized.
>>
>>Hope this helps. Let me know if other questions arise.
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>>Alan Kennedy Wrote:
>>>
>>>Greetings all,
>>>
>>>I've worked a lot with jython in the past, and have often made use of it
>>>by embedding it in java servers.
>>>
>>>I'd like to try the same thing with Ironpython.
>>>
>>>Is there any documentation on how to go about this? I'm specifically
>>>interested in writing ironpython "servlets", i.e. servicing web requests
>>>with ironpython code.
>>>
>>>Under jython, the interpreter has to be initialised before scripts can be
>>>executed. Is a similar initialisation necessary under ironpython?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Alan.
>>>
>>>
>>
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