[Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team

[vijay kumar]

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <
> chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be
>> raised for
>> sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share
>> invoice as
>> they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely
>> understand we
>> wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board
>> while
>> we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of
>> PSSI
>> suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
>> days for PSSI
>> treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks
>> like
>> PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are
>> citing
>> like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let
>> other
>> teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And
>> that
>> makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?)
>> running PSSI
>> are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the
>> community
>> in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
>> organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone
>> please
>> tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do
>> not
>> show your concern about the community when you do not care about the
>> community
>> at all.
>>
>
> There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.
>
> https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf
>
> In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded
> Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
> Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India
> from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes,
> many of you don't know that).
>

Request you not to mistake me for asking this. But I could not understand
"for PyCon India" in the above statement.

Anand C,
I would request you to provide complete info for everybody here to
understand. All I asked Sree was to share the soft copy of invoice when the
hard copy was already couriered. Even after repeated requests Sree neither
shared the soft copy with PSSI board members nor with PyCon India core
volunteers. This was not the first time he did this but he did the same
during PyCon India 2017 for every payment or invoice. He always agrees to
follow a protocol defined however,when the time comes, he ignores the
protocols and end up doing what he wants. He ignores the reminders and
requests to follow what we agreed as well.


Just to let everyone know here, I had requested Sree to share PyCon India
2016 and 2017 expense report which he agreed. But he never could get
approval from the core team of PyCon India 2016 and 2017 to share the same
even after multiple requests. After which he requested PSSI executive
members to process Audit report of 2016-17. I would request everyone here
to help me understand how an Audit report can be processed without knowing
the expense report of the one and only event supported by PSSI.

And for the record, Anand C and even the President of PSSI did not take any
action to get PSSI follow process instead I was questioned for requesting
to follow process. And it continues here as well.

Also, every year PSSI comes up with new process for PyCon India depending
on who are leading PyCon India that year. In PyCon India 2017, PSSI agreed
to let the core volunteers take decisions on everything related to the
event and PSSI act only provide financial support. But in 2018, the process
was changed and the core volunteers were not consulted neither their
concerns were considered. That was the reason I said that we might have to
rethink on working with PSSI. The email shared by Anand C has all the
necessary info.

I had a hard time making PSSI board members understand our bye-law to
involve executive members of PSSI in all the decision taking. I took that
struggle hope that would help resolve the issues in PSSI but you went ahead
with dissolving the board without even understanding how Indian law works
and what is there in the bye-law.

How can one trust PSSI when there are so many internal conflicts?

Note: I was told repeatedly that PSF has given PSSI authority to run PyCon
India. Could you please provide me insights as to when and how this
discussion with PSF happened. Being a PSSI secretary, I do not have this
details.

All this make me feel that a set of people here has something against me
and come hard on me for whatever I say or do.



> I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need
> to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no
> sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and
> let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and
> drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.
>
>
Thanks to you, who helped creating PSSI bye-law, we cannot just get the new
members in and replace the board at once. Any member must complete a year
before becoming a board member. Looks like you missed to read the response
instead made up mind that we are not agreeing by just checking who the
sender is.
Sorry to say I can't support illogical and immature decision like this.
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