From anuvrat at anuvrat.in  Thu Mar  1 06:27:28 2018
From: anuvrat at anuvrat.in (Anuvrat Parashar)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 16:57:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I would like to propose having permanent workgroups for PyCon India just
> like europython[1].
>
> Think of something like sponsorships. We usually have people running the
> conference looking at sponsorships, which is usually focused on host city.
> We hardly keep contact with our past sponsors. Wouldn't it is nice to have
> a team of volunteers across all the major cities and coordinating?
>
> The plan is to have one workgroup for each of talk selection, sponsorship,
> website etc. and people in the workgroup continue even if the location
> changes. This will make sure that the institutional knowledge is preserved
> and moving conference to a new place is not that hard and we don't end up
> reinventing everything again and again.
>
> Each workgroup will more more or less independently, coordinating with the
> conference team. Volunteers can join one or more workgroups of their
> interest.
>
> We can start with the following workgroups and create more as the need
> arises.
>
> Progam WG - talk selection/voting, scheduling, session chairs,
> sprint/openspace/keynote/lightning talks, Python for young coders
>
> Sponsors WG - sponsor contacts, sponsor logistics, room/booth assignment
>
> Web WG - website management, issue tracking
>
> Marketing Design WG - brochures, banners, flyers, t-shirts, lanyards,
> badges, panels, logo
>
> Media WG - video recording, live streaming, uploads to YouTube
>
> Did I miss any other important ones?
>

- Food
- Network
- Social media (can be clubbed with Media WG)




>
> Please share you thoughts and feel to suggest if you have any
> alternative/better ideas.
>
> [1]: https://www.europython-society.org/workgroups
>
> Anand
>
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar  1 13:10:11 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:40:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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 (qua non's message of "Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:41:44 +0530")
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 <CAPztPCdxZpgxQaNT9hX4J5RGs_sB1gPgn6TzFE=UP3gNW7tQRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87woyvk6po.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Wed, Feb 21 2018, qua non wrote:


[...]

> The Python community from all around India has voiced on this mailing list,
> that they would still like to see PyCon India happen this year.
>
> Satyakaam, Rajat Saini, Sanyam Khurana, Jaidev Deshpande, Shahank Kumar,
> Piyush Aggarwal, Akash Misra(to name just a few) from last years organizing
> team have all personally voiced to me that they would like to help out as
> much as possible remotely in this regard. Not to mention the numerous of
> volunteers who already voiced here on the mailing list that they would like
> to help out. I along with the rest of them would like to raise our hands
> and offer our assistance.


This is heartening to hear. Is there someone who can take a leadership
role? It's quite obvious to me that there are volunteers who want to
pitch in but someone needs to be in the drivers seat. 

It's not that this leader is some kind of powerful king but nothing
really takes place unless someone pushes things forward and steers the
whole affair. 

If someone can pitch in to be the conference chair, it would go a long
way into getting the organising back on track and the whole thing moving
forward. 


[...]

Thanks.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar  1 13:07:36 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:37:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFz8CxN_5UJz-Xun8Fw655-kLGA+CG-RGeDqG6wz-3THFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:26:41 +0530")
References: <CAC7wXFz8CxN_5UJz-Xun8Fw655-kLGA+CG-RGeDqG6wz-3THFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87371jllef.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Wed, Feb 28 2018, Anand Chitipothu wrote:


[...]

> Each workgroup will more more or less independently, coordinating with
> the conference team. Volunteers can join one or more workgroups of
> their interest.

[...]

I think this is a good idea. However, getting it off the ground will
probably be easier after one (more) edition of the conference takes
place. The people who were involved with a certain area will gel and
organically become a working group.


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com  Fri Mar  2 03:00:49 2018
From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 08:00:49 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
In-Reply-To: <87woyvk6po.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 at 23:34 Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 21 2018, qua non wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
> > The Python community from all around India has voiced on this mailing
> list,
> > that they would still like to see PyCon India happen this year.
> >
> > Satyakaam, Rajat Saini, Sanyam Khurana, Jaidev Deshpande, Shahank Kumar,
> > Piyush Aggarwal, Akash Misra(to name just a few) from last years
> organizing
> > team have all personally voiced to me that they would like to help out as
> > much as possible remotely in this regard. Not to mention the numerous of
> > volunteers who already voiced here on the mailing list that they would
> like
> > to help out. I along with the rest of them would like to raise our hands
> > and offer our assistance.
>
>
> This is heartening to hear. Is there someone who can take a leadership
> role? It's quite obvious to me that there are volunteers who want to
> pitch in but someone needs to be in the drivers seat.
>
> It's not that this leader is some kind of powerful king but nothing
> really takes place unless someone pushes things forward and steers the
> whole affair.
>
> If someone can pitch in to be the conference chair, it would go a long
> way into getting the organising back on track and the whole thing moving
> forward.
>

I doubt anybody is willing to volunteer for the job, or they would have
done it by now. I suggest that we all nominate someone, the only
requirement being that the nominee be based in Bangalore. I would not set a
criterion based on the experience or the seniority of the nominee. At this
stage, it would suffice if someone can be nominated simply as the single
point of contact, and the overall responsibility will be shared among all
organizing teams anyway.

If this sounds good, please go ahead and nominate someone you know who is
based in Bangalore and who has been somewhat active in the community.

Thanks,


>
>
> [...]
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
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From soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com  Fri Mar  2 04:00:04 2018
From: soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com (Soundharya AM)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 14:30:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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 <87woyvk6po.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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Hi All,

I am Soundharya, working as the senior front-end engineer over here in
Bangalore. I would like to work with you guys in establishing the strong
community of user-base for Python.

If anything is needed from my side, please let me know.

I would be happy to help!

Best wishes and cheers!
Soundharya,
https://soundharyaam.com


On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Jaidev Deshpande <deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 at 23:34 Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 21 2018, qua non wrote:
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > The Python community from all around India has voiced on this mailing
>> list,
>> > that they would still like to see PyCon India happen this year.
>> >
>> > Satyakaam, Rajat Saini, Sanyam Khurana, Jaidev Deshpande, Shahank Kumar,
>> > Piyush Aggarwal, Akash Misra(to name just a few) from last years
>> organizing
>> > team have all personally voiced to me that they would like to help out
>> as
>> > much as possible remotely in this regard. Not to mention the numerous of
>> > volunteers who already voiced here on the mailing list that they would
>> like
>> > to help out. I along with the rest of them would like to raise our hands
>> > and offer our assistance.
>>
>>
>> This is heartening to hear. Is there someone who can take a leadership
>> role? It's quite obvious to me that there are volunteers who want to
>> pitch in but someone needs to be in the drivers seat.
>>
>> It's not that this leader is some kind of powerful king but nothing
>> really takes place unless someone pushes things forward and steers the
>> whole affair.
>>
>> If someone can pitch in to be the conference chair, it would go a long
>> way into getting the organising back on track and the whole thing moving
>> forward.
>>
>
> I doubt anybody is willing to volunteer for the job, or they would have
> done it by now. I suggest that we all nominate someone, the only
> requirement being that the nominee be based in Bangalore. I would not set a
> criterion based on the experience or the seniority of the nominee. At this
> stage, it would suffice if someone can be nominated simply as the single
> point of contact, and the overall responsibility will be shared among all
> organizing teams anyway.
>
> If this sounds good, please go ahead and nominate someone you know who is
> based in Bangalore and who has been somewhat active in the community.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
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From singhal.varun72 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  2 21:34:42 2018
From: singhal.varun72 at gmail.com (Varun Singhal)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 08:04:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
In-Reply-To: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <CACvgKdRzQXr_DO7TDU+ZpVM_PaWc07G44Rp9d++yX+ZGvNgDpg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone ,
I am good at tech , I want to volunteer. I can write content, manage
Facebook and develop website .
I am experienced in organising tech fest and hackathons.
Looking forward to new opportunity.
Regards .

On 21-Feb-2018 10:39 AM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>       I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
> have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
> and things need to be sorted out.
>
>       Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
> the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
> and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
> one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
> who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
> into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
> back on the road.
>
>       We can discuss details about how large the conference should be
> and other details on the list but the first thing to decide is who
> should take the lead.
>
>       Please reply to this thread and let's see where we can take this.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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From siddharth14491 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  2 21:57:19 2018
From: siddharth14491 at gmail.com (Siddharth Singh)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 08:27:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
In-Reply-To: <CACvgKdRzQXr_DO7TDU+ZpVM_PaWc07G44Rp9d++yX+ZGvNgDpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
 <CACvgKdRzQXr_DO7TDU+ZpVM_PaWc07G44Rp9d++yX+ZGvNgDpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+D54wmyYs5ZuLa0oHqG9JKH5Zb2vnizEVZr4av8v6QykSwXbg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,
    I work in Bangalore based company . A
I am interested to take part in volunteering.
    Please let me know what can I help.
 BR/
Siddhargh

On Mar 3, 2018 8:11 AM, "Varun Singhal" <singhal.varun72 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone ,
> I am good at tech , I want to volunteer. I can write content, manage
> Facebook and develop website .
> I am experienced in organising tech fest and hackathons.
> Looking forward to new opportunity.
> Regards .
>
> On 21-Feb-2018 10:39 AM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>       I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
>> have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
>> and things need to be sorted out.
>>
>>       Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
>> the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
>> and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
>> one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
>> who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
>> into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
>> back on the road.
>>
>>       We can discuss details about how large the conference should be
>> and other details on the list but the first thing to decide is who
>> should take the lead.
>>
>>       Please reply to this thread and let's see where we can take this.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
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From renjithsraj at live.com  Sat Mar  3 00:50:24 2018
From: renjithsraj at live.com (Renjith s.raj)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 05:50:24 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
In-Reply-To: <CA+D54wmyYs5ZuLa0oHqG9JKH5Zb2vnizEVZr4av8v6QykSwXbg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
 <CACvgKdRzQXr_DO7TDU+ZpVM_PaWc07G44Rp9d++yX+ZGvNgDpg@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CA+D54wmyYs5ZuLa0oHqG9JKH5Zb2vnizEVZr4av8v6QykSwXbg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MAXPR0101MB16747F8752BC0EED5ACF7349CFC40@MAXPR0101MB1674.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi All,

This is Renjith, I'm interested to take part of a volunteer in  Pycon India, I'm good at Python and Django.

www.djangocrew.com<http://www.djangocrew.com> This my portal for Python/Django developers. please let me know.
[http://www.djangocrew.com/static/icons/favicon.ico]<http://www.djangocrew.com/>

Djangocrew<http://www.djangocrew.com/>
Django crew is the community, mainly focusing in django related blogs, snippets,etc
www.djangocrew.com


________________________________
From: Inpycon <inpycon-bounces+renjithsraj=live.com at python.org> on behalf of Siddharth Singh <siddharth14491 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Reckoning time

Hello Everyone,
    I work in Bangalore based company . A
I am interested to take part in volunteering.
    Please let me know what can I help.
 BR/
Siddhargh

On Mar 3, 2018 8:11 AM, "Varun Singhal" <singhal.varun72 at gmail.com<mailto:singhal.varun72 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone ,
I am good at tech , I want to volunteer. I can write content, manage Facebook and develop website .
I am experienced in organising tech fest and hackathons.
Looking forward to new opportunity.
Regards .

On 21-Feb-2018 10:39 AM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in<mailto:noufal at nibrahim.net.in>> wrote:

Hello everyone,
      I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
and things need to be sorted out.

      Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
back on the road.

      We can discuss details about how large the conference should be
and other details on the list but the first thing to decide is who
should take the lead.

      Please reply to this thread and let's see where we can take this.

Thanks




--
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in
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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  3 08:11:35 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 18:41:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
In-Reply-To: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <87y3jnnf78.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajS6nM=WEYnatwyMn6hSp3GWaX1_S+L5MkU2Xuxj5Uo6_g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>       I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
> have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
> and things need to be sorted out.
>
>       Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
> the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
> and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
> one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
> who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
> into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
> back on the road.
>
>       We can discuss details about how large the conference should be
> and other details on the list but the first thing to decide is who
> should take the lead.
>
>


IMO, before we proceed, we should address the queries and concerns raised
earlier [0]. Just moving on without actually fixing the root cause is going
to pull everything back again in future and bring the volunteers who take
their personal time to work for community down.

Note: Not answering questions break trust in the community and request
people not to consider any query as silly and ignore.

It is just my suggestion. I leave it to the community to decide when and
how they want to proceed.


[0]: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2018-January/011751.html
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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 12:21:49 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 22:51:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFy-ib18_qG7GZJM7u8tq3QHJihRXceOyZpoeBM4LHDUGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7wXFz8CxN_5UJz-Xun8Fw655-kLGA+CG-RGeDqG6wz-3THFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3C32960C-7AFA-48BA-B238-6445E0FA1BAC@mahiti.org>
 <CAC7wXFy-ib18_qG7GZJM7u8tq3QHJihRXceOyZpoeBM4LHDUGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFx5pTMM-VYkNhBcM6HzXndk4oq=dQhq8Qe5C9RHQ=4Arg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> This sounds interesting. I went through the link but could not get enough
>> info about how these independent workgroups coordinate. How are these
>> workgroups anchored together to make the event a success? How does
>> EuroPython do this?
>>
>
> Wrote to someone I know at EuroPython asking for more details. I'll update
> once hear back.
>

I wrote to Alexader Hendorf  at EuroPython asking for some inputs about
EuroPython Workgroups and here is I received:

---
On 1. Mar 2018, 05:58 +0100, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>, wrote:

Hi Alexander,

We at PyCon India are trying to from permanent workgroups just like Euro
Python. I'm leading that effort and would like to learn more about how
these things are managed at EuroPython. Here are some of the specific
questions I have:


Happy to help/share insights


- How do you select people for each workgroup?

We'll we try to find out who serious they are. E.g. many people want to
join the program WG.
So we try to find out if they are really willing to work. We did have
problems with large workgroups in the past with only few people working.

 - What are the roles in each workgroup?

We have one or two chairs in a WG, I'd say the chairs is kind of project
manager. The chair person checks deadlines and tries to distribute the work
load within the group.
Most of the times the chairs is also a member of the EP board.

 - How do people interact and communicate in each workgroup? Are there any
common guidelines followed by all workgroups?

Yes, we try to use only few tools. Email and telegram for communication,
Google docs/sheets and sometimes Trello. Yes, we try to use all the same
tools for all WG to minimise set-up time. If there is a good reason a WG
still can use a tool it favours/helps getting stuff done.

 - How will these workgroups coordinate with EuroPython Society and the
organizers of the conference

The board members are all in WS, mostly chairs even - so we have short
communication ways and the chair have always a big picture what's going on
in the conference organisation.


- Will there be any interactions between different workgroups? if so how
are they mananged?

Of course they are - most of the times people just work on common stuff. We
don't have any formal rules for inter-WG-communication.

 - How is the division of work/responsibility between EuroPython Society
and organizers (chair, co-chair) of the conference?

The board is basically a board of organisers. We don't have a conference
chair - the closest would be the chair of EPS.


Are there any other things that we should be worried about? If you think
someone else at EuroPython might be able to help me better, please put me
in touch with them.

The main problems are:
- finding reliable volunteers
- someone just stops working (without telling the others)
- timing and deadlines

I hope this will help. Feel free to ping me if you have any more questions.

---

Not that we need to follow this literally, but I guess these are good
guidelines. What do you say?

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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 12:24:28 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 22:54:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <87371jllef.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 28 2018, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
> > Each workgroup will more more or less independently, coordinating with
> > the conference team. Volunteers can join one or more workgroups of
> > their interest.
>
> [...]
>
> I think this is a good idea. However, getting it off the ground will
> probably be easier after one (more) edition of the conference takes
> place. The people who were involved with a certain area will gel and
> organically become a working group.
>

That would have been the case if all the volunteers are from the same city,
meet physically once in a while. Since that is not the case, I think it is
important to have small focused groups.

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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 12:30:20 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 23:00:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:41 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>       I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
>> have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
>> and things need to be sorted out.
>>
>>       Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
>> the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
>> and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
>> one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
>> who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
>> into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
>> back on the road.
>>
>
>
> The Python community from all around India has voiced on this mailing
> list, that they would still like to see PyCon India happen this year.
>
> Satyakaam, Rajat Saini, Sanyam Khurana, Jaidev Deshpande, Shahank Kumar,
> Piyush Aggarwal, Akash Misra(to name just a few) from last years organizing
> team have all personally voiced to me that they would like to help out as
> much as possible remotely in this regard. Not to mention the numerous of
> volunteers who already voiced here on the mailing list that they would like
> to help out. I along with the rest of them would like to raise our hands
> and offer our assistance.
>
> One of the basic understandings that we worked with last time was that
> even though there is one person who is named as chair,
> it's mostly the organizing committee that makes the decision by consensus
> among them based on inputs from the community and feasibility.
>
>
> *From the suggestions I got from personally talking to people it was
> suggested we start from scratch re discussing the following questions with
> input from community. *
>
> 1) Guidelines that make sure a enforceable code and conduct for::
>       - Communication e-mail or otherwise
>       - On code/issues on github
>       - Every-one to be treated equally, noobs or veterans
>
>  2) Make sure we have a strong local community that is ready and willing
> to do the ground work.
>
>  3) Revise the Conference scale, venue and sponsorship details based on
> time and budget allocation.
>
>  3) Discuss on roles and a start up with a reverse timeline for the
> conference along with responsibilities.
>
>  4) Conference structure: Some one suggested to look at euro python as a
> structure, maybe we could look at other conferences and incorporate some
> good feasible parts into this years PyCon.
>
>  5) Communication medium, irc or Telegram or mailing list or Matrix....
>
>  I think we should start individual threads to discuss all this, get these
> threads sorted asap and start with the organising efforts for PyCon India.
>
>  P.S. PyCon India is a community driven event, it is for and by the
> community. The community spans all across "India". This would involve
> collaboration from Python Communities all around India. Even from python
> communities across the world.
>

Folks, it is almost 2 weeks since you said you wanted to take the lead and
there is no further action. Is there anything that you are waiting for?

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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:06:54 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:36:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
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On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <
chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]
>
> Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be
> raised for
> sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share invoice
> as
> they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely
> understand we
> wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board
> while
> we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of
> PSSI
> suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
> days for PSSI
> treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks
> like
> PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are
> citing
> like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let
> other
> teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And
> that
> makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?) running
> PSSI
> are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the
> community
> in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
> organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone
> please
> tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do
> not
> show your concern about the community when you do not care about the
> community
> at all.
>

There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.

https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf

In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded
Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India from
the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes, many
of you don't know that).

I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need to
be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no sense
of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and let new
people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and drive.
Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.

I don't want to change the topic to PSSI here. I'll start a separate thread
discussing that.

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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:19:21 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:49:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Rebooting PSSI
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFwKoiL+pLaHSws7ocYKbhgUWtzBsSvKtW=S1_FoRtJZpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

PSSI as you know is the organization that was started to run PyCon India as
we need a formal organization to handle payments, pay taxes etc.

As of today, PSSI has become very inactive (toxic is probably a better
word), nothing moves forward there. Every discussion goes into arguments
and nothing important gets done.

This is the email that I've sent to the members of PSSI in November. As
usual it didn't go anywhere.

I'm putting the same proposal (see below) in front of the community and I
ask everyone to suggest what would a good way to resolve this.

Thanks,
Anand


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 3:46 PM
Subject: Dissolving the board
To: "Board Members of Python Software Society of India (PSSI)." <
board at pssi.org.in>


Hello everyone,

I've seen the discussions about enrolling new members. Before we proceed
with that here is my humble suggestion.

There have been strong differences in opinion among the current members and
I don't see a strong sense of trust between us. It is very difficult to
continue working together like this. I suggest dissolving the current
board, retiring all members and invite new people to take this space.

To make sure, we get the right people and maintain the diversity, I suggest
inviting 2 people from each active python user group in the country. The
user group will decide whom to nominate. That includes pydata, pyladies and
any other Python-related communities. To limit this to only the active user
groups, consider only the ones who have conducted at least 6 meetups in
this year.

I would also recommend inviting all the recipients of Kenneth Gonsalves
award as well.

I'm hope this will make the PSSI healthy again and once new team starts,
they can decide how to take it forward, including new enrolments.

Let me remind you that I'm suggesting that *all* the current members to
resign and let new people take the space.

What do you think?

Anand
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Mar  6 23:50:16 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:20:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Rebooting PSSI
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On 2018-03-07 09:49, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> PSSI as you know is the organization that was started to run PyCon
> India as we need a formal organization to handle payments, pay taxes
> etc.
> 
> As of today, PSSI has become very inactive (toxic is probably a better
> word), nothing moves forward there. Every discussion goes into
> arguments and nothing important gets done.
> 
> This is the email that I've sent to the members of PSSI in November.
> As usual it didn't go anywhere.
> 
> I'm putting the same proposal (see below) in front of the community
> and I ask everyone to suggest what would a good way to resolve this.


Dissolving the current board and rewriting the charter/rules so that 
there's very little executive power given to the PSSI and making it more 
of a facilitator and accounting body are both good things.

However, this will take time and energy and we're already in a tight 
spot regarding the conference. If PyCon India 2018 has to take place,
I think letting the current incarnation of the PSSI continue as is for 
another year while we make plans to change it is wise.

From soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:53:57 2018
From: soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com (Soundharya AM)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 04:53:57 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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Guys, can we have a hangout call or something to sort out the things asap.
So, we will get the proper view on how to proceed further.

If you have some other idea, please let us know. We can proceed
accordingly. Discussing directly in con call would do more help in building
the collaboration.


Kind regards,
Soundharya,
www.soundharyaam.com

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 11:01 PM Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:41 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <
>> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>       I think it's past time we made a decision about what to do. There
>>> have been a few emails about a lack of response and other such matters
>>> and things need to be sorted out.
>>>
>>>       Unless there are atleast 2 or 3 people willing to take the lead,
>>> the conference is not going to happen. Volunteers for the ground work
>>> and other such details are present and can be mobilised but there's no
>>> one at the helm. This needs to be fixed. If some of the people here
>>> who've worked on the conference have the time and inclination to get
>>> into the drivers seat, please chime in. Then, we can get the whole show
>>> back on the road.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The Python community from all around India has voiced on this mailing
>> list, that they would still like to see PyCon India happen this year.
>>
>> Satyakaam, Rajat Saini, Sanyam Khurana, Jaidev Deshpande, Shahank Kumar,
>> Piyush Aggarwal, Akash Misra(to name just a few) from last years organizing
>> team have all personally voiced to me that they would like to help out as
>> much as possible remotely in this regard. Not to mention the numerous of
>> volunteers who already voiced here on the mailing list that they would like
>> to help out. I along with the rest of them would like to raise our hands
>> and offer our assistance.
>>
>> One of the basic understandings that we worked with last time was that
>> even though there is one person who is named as chair,
>> it's mostly the organizing committee that makes the decision by consensus
>> among them based on inputs from the community and feasibility.
>>
>>
>> *From the suggestions I got from personally talking to people it was
>> suggested we start from scratch re discussing the following questions with
>> input from community. *
>>
>> 1) Guidelines that make sure a enforceable code and conduct for::
>>       - Communication e-mail or otherwise
>>       - On code/issues on github
>>       - Every-one to be treated equally, noobs or veterans
>>
>>  2) Make sure we have a strong local community that is ready and willing
>> to do the ground work.
>>
>>  3) Revise the Conference scale, venue and sponsorship details based on
>> time and budget allocation.
>>
>>  3) Discuss on roles and a start up with a reverse timeline for the
>> conference along with responsibilities.
>>
>>  4) Conference structure: Some one suggested to look at euro python as a
>> structure, maybe we could look at other conferences and incorporate some
>> good feasible parts into this years PyCon.
>>
>>  5) Communication medium, irc or Telegram or mailing list or Matrix....
>>
>>  I think we should start individual threads to discuss all this, get
>> these threads sorted asap and start with the organising efforts for PyCon
>> India.
>>
>>  P.S. PyCon India is a community driven event, it is for and by the
>> community. The community spans all across "India". This would involve
>> collaboration from Python Communities all around India. Even from python
>> communities across the world.
>>
>
> Folks, it is almost 2 weeks since you said you wanted to take the lead and
> there is no further action. Is there anything that you are waiting for?
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Mar  6 23:56:45 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:26:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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On 2018-03-07 10:23, Soundharya AM wrote:
> Guys, can we have a hangout call or something to sort out the things
> asap. So, we will get the proper view on how to proceed further.
> 
> If you have some other idea, please let us know. We can proceed
> accordingly. Discussing directly in con call would do more help in
> building the collaboration.

In the interests of transparency and having proper archives, I think 
it's better to do it here. A conf. call means that only some people can 
participate and it won't be on the record.


From atuludupi at live.com  Wed Mar  7 00:20:11 2018
From: atuludupi at live.com (Atul UDUPI)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 05:20:11 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
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Greetings,


I am one of the opensource passionate and Python lover.


I am a first timer  this year (2017-2018) for Pycon and wanted to learn  and contribute for Python in new regions. I am already on this job in my own way - and its a real community and purely non-commercial activities without hulla bulla.


I feel for making community successful we need  people with different mindset, transparency and real people  management & team management capabilities and should keep commercial as a byproduct and not the ONLY goal.   Arrogant, dictatorship kind of approach will fail us surely and we will not be able to build a healthy community and cannot sustain for a long time.


Kindly excuse me for my statement and I really mean it. I am unsubscribing myself  from this mailing list, because every email I receive make me feel that there is something serious issue and this is NOT what I should get into.


I am glad that I learnt this in the initial phase  and thank you for all the learning.  This whole episode helped me to think twice before getting involved with any new communities.


Good wishes to everyone.     I feel some of the senior members should sincerely drive this Aug 2018 event and make it a success.


PS:  I am not pointing fingers at anyone. Its just my general opinion  and NOT referring to  any communication/ discussion  within this mailing list.



Regards

Atul


________________________________
From: Inpycon <inpycon-bounces+atuludupi=live.com at python.org> on behalf of Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:36:54 AM
To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com<mailto:chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com>> wrote:
[...]

Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be raised for
sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share invoice as
they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely understand we
wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board while
we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of PSSI
suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
days for PSSI
treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks like
PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are citing
like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let other
teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And that
makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?) running PSSI
are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the community
in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone please
tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do not
show your concern about the community when you do not care about the community
at all.

There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.

https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf

In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes, many of you don't know that).

I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.

I don't want to change the topic to PSSI here. I'll start a separate thread discussing that.

Anand
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From rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 00:24:48 2018
From: rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com (Rajat Saini)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> In the interests of transparency and having proper archives, I think it's
> better to do it here. A conf. call means that only some people can
> participate and it won't be on the record.
>
>
+1, for Noufal's idea. As we have less amount of time with us to get ready
with PyCon India.

Let's, call every senior member who is associated with PyCon from past
years. And also call all the local volunteers for this who eagerly waiting
to volunteer for PyCon. So, that soon we are ready with a good team. Last
year I have contributed in website affairs and volunteered in all design
affairs. This time also I can help with that. But before that we need a
bunch of senior guys who can push us to make this event successful.


-- 
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 01:02:17 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:32:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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>
>
> Folks, it is almost 2 weeks since you said you wanted to take the lead and
> there is no further action. Is there anything that you are waiting for?
>

?Without the local folks stepping up this event is not going to happen , We
need some names from Bagpypers or from Bengaluru  with whom we can work
with they are still not there.

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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Wed Mar  7 11:54:02 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:24:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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On Wed, Mar 07 2018, satyakam goswami wrote:

[...]

> ?Without the local folks stepping up this event is not going to happen
> , We need some names from Bagpypers or from Bengaluru with whom we can
> work with they are still not there.
>

[...]

I'm not in touch with the Bangalore folks much since I moved out of the
city. One of the people I know is Krace and he's on this list. If he's
got the bandwidth, he can chime in here. 




-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:51:04 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 22:21:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 07 2018, satyakam goswami wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > ?Without the local folks stepping up this event is not going to happen
> > , We need some names from Bagpypers or from Bengaluru with whom we can
> > work with they are still not there.
> >
>
> [...]
>
> I'm not in touch with the Bangalore folks much since I moved out of the
> city. One of the people I know is Krace and he's on this list. If he's
> got the bandwidth, he can chime in here.
>

I month ago he said he is taking sabbatical from all volunteer activities.

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From sujan.gowda at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 00:30:43 2018
From: sujan.gowda at gmail.com (Sujan P. Gowda)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 11:00:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Rebooting PSSI
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Hi Folks,

Imho, I'd suggest a blockchain approach! TauChain approach to be more
precise for evolving consensus along the way.
Just saying. My 2p.


Regards,
Sujan G

AI on Blockchain evangelist.
https://fb.com/groups/yolocard/

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On 2018-03-07 09:49, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> PSSI as you know is the organization that was started to run PyCon
>> India as we need a formal organization to handle payments, pay taxes
>> etc.
>>
>> As of today, PSSI has become very inactive (toxic is probably a better
>> word), nothing moves forward there. Every discussion goes into
>> arguments and nothing important gets done.
>>
>> This is the email that I've sent to the members of PSSI in November.
>> As usual it didn't go anywhere.
>>
>> I'm putting the same proposal (see below) in front of the community
>> and I ask everyone to suggest what would a good way to resolve this.
>>
>
>
> Dissolving the current board and rewriting the charter/rules so that
> there's very little executive power given to the PSSI and making it more of
> a facilitator and accounting body are both good things.
>
> However, this will take time and energy and we're already in a tight spot
> regarding the conference. If PyCon India 2018 has to take place,
> I think letting the current incarnation of the PSSI continue as is for
> another year while we make plans to change it is wise.
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From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar  8 01:45:27 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:15:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I would like to propose having permanent workgroups for PyCon India just
> like europython[1].
>
> Think of something like sponsorships. We usually have people running the
> conference looking at sponsorships, which is usually focused on host city.
> We hardly keep contact with our past sponsors. Wouldn't it is nice to have
> a team of volunteers across all the major cities and coordinating?
>
> The plan is to have one workgroup for each of talk selection, sponsorship,
> website etc. and people in the workgroup continue even if the location
> changes. This will make sure that the institutional knowledge is preserved
> and moving conference to a new place is not that hard and we don't end up
> reinventing everything again and again.
>
> Each workgroup will more more or less independently, coordinating with the
> conference team. Volunteers can join one or more workgroups of their
> interest.
>
> We can start with the following workgroups and create more as the need
> arises.
>
> Progam WG - talk selection/voting, scheduling, session chairs,
> sprint/openspace/keynote/lightning talks, Python for young coders
>
> Sponsors WG - sponsor contacts, sponsor logistics, room/booth assignment
>
> Web WG - website management, issue tracking
>
> Marketing Design WG - brochures, banners, flyers, t-shirts, lanyards,
> badges, panels, logo
>
> Media WG - video recording, live streaming, uploads to YouTube
>
> Did I miss any other important ones?
>

?We need to fit Production and logistics somewhere in there. Venue, food
and network connectivity.

?And as we've booked a large venue and targeting a large number of
attendees, food and network needs some good amount of work.?

I've mentioned whatever I could think of here[1], with relates to the lines
of workgroups as well.

[1]: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2018-February/011791.html


>
> Please share you thoughts and feel to suggest if you have any
> alternative/better ideas.
>
> [1]: https://www.europython-society.org/workgroups
>
> Anand
>
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>


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From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar  8 01:48:16 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:18:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:51 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org
>> > wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> This sounds interesting. I went through the link but could not get
>>> enough info about how these independent workgroups coordinate. How are
>>> these workgroups anchored together to make the event a success? How does
>>> EuroPython do this?
>>>
>>
>> Wrote to someone I know at EuroPython asking for more details. I'll
>> update once hear back.
>>
>
> I wrote to Alexader Hendorf  at EuroPython asking for some inputs about
> EuroPython Workgroups and here is I received:
>
> ---
> On 1. Mar 2018, 05:58 +0100, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>,
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> We at PyCon India are trying to from permanent workgroups just like Euro
> Python. I'm leading that effort and would like to learn more about how
> these things are managed at EuroPython. Here are some of the specific
> questions I have:
>
>
> Happy to help/share insights
>
>
> - How do you select people for each workgroup?
>
> We'll we try to find out who serious they are. E.g. many people want to
> join the program WG.
> So we try to find out if they are really willing to work. We did have
> problems with large workgroups in the past with only few people working.
>

?Did they do anything specific to get over it? or let time take care of it??


>
>  - What are the roles in each workgroup?
>
> We have one or two chairs in a WG, I'd say the chairs is kind of project
> manager. The chair person checks deadlines and tries to distribute the work
> load within the group.
> Most of the times the chairs is also a member of the EP board.
>
>  - How do people interact and communicate in each workgroup? Are there any
> common guidelines followed by all workgroups?
>
> Yes, we try to use only few tools. Email and telegram for communication,
> Google docs/sheets and sometimes Trello. Yes, we try to use all the same
> tools for all WG to minimise set-up time. If there is a good reason a WG
> still can use a tool it favours/helps getting stuff done.
>
>  - How will these workgroups coordinate with EuroPython Society and the
> organizers of the conference
>
> The board members are all in WS, mostly chairs even - so we have short
> communication ways and the chair have always a big picture what's going on
> in the conference organisation.
>
>
> - Will there be any interactions between different workgroups? if so how
> are they mananged?
>
> Of course they are - most of the times people just work on common stuff.
> We don't have any formal rules for inter-WG-communication.
>
>  - How is the division of work/responsibility between EuroPython Society
> and organizers (chair, co-chair) of the conference?
>
> The board is basically a board of organisers. We don't have a conference
> chair - the closest would be the chair of EPS.
>
>
> Are there any other things that we should be worried about? If you think
> someone else at EuroPython might be able to help me better, please put me
> in touch with them.
>
> The main problems are:
> - finding reliable volunteers
> - someone just stops working (without telling the others)
> - timing and deadlines
>
> I hope this will help. Feel free to ping me if you have any more questions.
>
> ---
>
> Not that we need to follow this literally, but I guess these are good
> guidelines. What do you say?
>
> Anand
>
>
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From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar  8 01:41:46 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:11:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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Hi,

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I would like to propose having permanent workgroups for PyCon India just
> like europython[1].
>
> Think of something like sponsorships. We usually have people running the
> conference looking at sponsorships, which is usually focused on host city.
> We hardly keep contact with our past sponsors. Wouldn't it is nice to have
> a team of volunteers across all the major cities and coordinating?
>
> The plan is to have one workgroup for each of talk selection, sponsorship,
> website etc. and people in the workgroup continue even if the location
> changes. This will make sure that the institutional knowledge is preserved
> and moving conference to a new place is not that hard and we don't end up
> reinventing everything again and again.
>
> Each workgroup will more more or less independently, coordinating with the
> conference team. Volunteers can join one or more workgroups of their
> interest.
>
> We can start with the following workgroups and create more as the need
> arises.
>
> Progam WG - talk selection/voting, scheduling, session chairs,
> sprint/openspace/keynote/lightning talks, Python for young coders
>
> Sponsors WG - sponsor contacts, sponsor logistics, room/booth assignment
>
> Web WG - website management, issue tracking
>
> Marketing Design WG - brochures, banners, flyers, t-shirts, lanyards,
> badges, panels, logo
>
> Media WG - video recording, live streaming, uploads to YouTube
>

?I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design WG
for several years previously and can help with it.

I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience with
them too.

And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
?

>
> Did I miss any other important ones?
>
> Please share you thoughts and feel to suggest if you have any
> alternative/better ideas.
>
> [1]: https://www.europython-society.org/workgroups
>
> Anand
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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>


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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 01:57:38 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:27:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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>
> ?We need to fit Production and logistics somewhere in there. Venue, food
> and network connectivity.
>
> ?And as we've booked a large venue and targeting a large number of
> attendees, food and network needs some good amount of work.?
>


All that will come later , The venue needs to be re looked lets start from
scratch .


-Saty
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From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar  8 01:59:30 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:29:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:27 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ?We need to fit Production and logistics somewhere in there. Venue, food
>> and network connectivity.
>>
>> ?And as we've booked a large venue and targeting a large number of
>> attendees, food and network needs some good amount of work.?
>>
>
>
> All that will come later , The venue needs to be re looked lets start from
> scratch .
>

Sure. But we already paid some amount to the venue I think. ?



>
>
> -Saty
>
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:01:05 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:31:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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>
> ?I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design WG
> for several years previously and can help with it.
>
> I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience
> with them too.
>
> And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
>

?Need a chair i suggest you take that position in interim before someone
else steps in ,also need more names from Bengaluru , yes we need to relook
all the logistics and be realistic than think with grand plans lets start
from scratch like Venue etc...

thanks
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:02:55 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:32:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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From sree at mahiti.org  Thu Mar  8 02:03:46 2018
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:33:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <CALre89mKxZ+JPNTbc3tZwe0n7d8W6rcdY8Ac5jw=rEVxfk4-jQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 08-Mar-2018, at 12:31 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design WG for several years previously and can help with it. 
> 
> I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience with them too.
> 
> And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
> 
> ?Need a chair i suggest you take that position in interim before someone else steps in ,also need more names from Bengaluru , yes we need to relook all the logistics and be realistic than think with grand plans lets start from scratch like Venue etc?

I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
Sree

> 
> thanks
> -Satya ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon

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From joinalahmed at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:06:16 2018
From: joinalahmed at gmail.com (JOINAL AHMED)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 07:06:16 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <6624C634-11E1-4B1D-BB42-D093B2EDB1B5@mahiti.org>
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i am in bengaluru and can help anyway i can

On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 at 12:34 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
wrote:

> On 08-Mar-2018, at 12:31 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design WG
>> for several years previously and can help with it.
>>
>> I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience
>> with them too.
>>
>> And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
>>
>
> ?Need a chair i suggest you take that position in interim before someone
> else steps in ,also need more names from Bengaluru , yes we need to relook
> all the logistics and be realistic than think with grand plans lets start
> from scratch like Venue etc?
>
>
> I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
> Sree
>
>
> thanks
> -Satya ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
> Executive Director
> Mahiti
> +91-98455-12611
> http://mahiti.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:17:44 2018
From: soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com (Soundharya AM)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:47:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <CAAijkVFfOb8yWCn8RRX14Ne86Ynnw+b5FDBDpJixkUcmyyHdPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7wXFz8CxN_5UJz-Xun8Fw655-kLGA+CG-RGeDqG6wz-3THFQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

I can help with Web WG and Program WG. And, I reside in Bangalore.

Kind regards,
Soundharya,
www.soundharyaam.com


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:36 PM, JOINAL AHMED <joinalahmed at gmail.com> wrote:
> i am in bengaluru and can help anyway i can
>
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 at 12:34 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 08-Mar-2018, at 12:31 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design WG
>>> for several years previously and can help with it.
>>>
>>> I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience
>>> with them too.
>>>
>>> And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
>>
>>
>> Need a chair i suggest you take that position in interim before someone
>> else steps in ,also need more names from Bengaluru , yes we need to relook
>> all the logistics and be realistic than think with grand plans lets start
>> from scratch like Venue etc?
>>
>>
>> I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
>> Sree
>>
>>
>> thanks
>> -Satya
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
>> Executive Director
>> Mahiti
>> +91-98455-12611
>> http://mahiti.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
> --
> Thanks
> Joinal Ahmed
> Assam University Silchar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>

From lifeofnavin at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:48:07 2018
From: lifeofnavin at gmail.com (Navin Pai)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:18:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
In-Reply-To: <CACwZM9iVEs7qXwaLGAtg125Q2Mo1Rkfaep_UTQ7WWL+jev_x5g@mail.gmail.com>
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Another Bengaluru resident and volunteer at previous PyCons (*and also been
part of multiple event organizing teams over the years*).

Can be a part of Program WG/Web WG/Marketing WG

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Soundharya AM <
soundharyabharatiya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can help with Web WG and Program WG. And, I reside in Bangalore.
>
> Kind regards,
> Soundharya,
> www.soundharyaam.com
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:36 PM, JOINAL AHMED <joinalahmed at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > i am in bengaluru and can help anyway i can
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 at 12:34 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 08-Mar-2018, at 12:31 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have volunteered to the roles mentioned in Web and Marketing/Design
> WG
> >>> for several years previously and can help with it.
> >>>
> >>> I can also help with Program and Media WG as well as I have experience
> >>> with them too.
> >>>
> >>> And I stay in Bangalore. So that helps.
> >>
> >>
> >> Need a chair i suggest you take that position in interim before someone
> >> else steps in ,also need more names from Bengaluru , yes we need to
> relook
> >> all the logistics and be realistic than think with grand plans lets
> start
> >> from scratch like Venue etc?
> >>
> >>
> >> I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
> >> Sree
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> -Satya
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Inpycon mailing list
> >> Inpycon at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >>
> >>
> >> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
> >> Executive Director
> >> Mahiti
> >> +91-98455-12611
> >> http://mahiti.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Inpycon mailing list
> >> Inpycon at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Joinal Ahmed
> > Assam University Silchar
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From vipin68_scs at jnu.ac.in  Thu Mar  8 02:53:29 2018
From: vipin68_scs at jnu.ac.in (Vipin RATHI)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:23:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Rebooting PSSI
In-Reply-To: <CAJT1nRKB3icA04yaztCk_pTB3rCigOqtewxrZCbrnt8j0Wvp3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7wXFwKoiL+pLaHSws7ocYKbhgUWtzBsSvKtW=S1_FoRtJZpQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Sujan P. Gowda <sujan.gowda at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Imho, I'd suggest a blockchain approach! TauChain approach to be more
> precise for evolving consensus along the way.
> Just saying. My 2p.
>

+ 1

We can also use DAO(Decentralized Autonomous Organization).

Regards,
> Sujan G
>
> AI on Blockchain evangelist.
> https://fb.com/groups/yolocard/
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-07 09:49, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> PSSI as you know is the organization that was started to run PyCon
>>> India as we need a formal organization to handle payments, pay taxes
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> As of today, PSSI has become very inactive (toxic is probably a better
>>> word), nothing moves forward there. Every discussion goes into
>>> arguments and nothing important gets done.
>>>
>>> This is the email that I've sent to the members of PSSI in November.
>>> As usual it didn't go anywhere.
>>>
>>> I'm putting the same proposal (see below) in front of the community
>>> and I ask everyone to suggest what would a good way to resolve this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Dissolving the current board and rewriting the charter/rules so that
>> there's very little executive power given to the PSSI and making it more of
>> a facilitator and accounting body are both good things.
>>
>> However, this will take time and energy and we're already in a tight spot
>> regarding the conference. If PyCon India 2018 has to take place,
>> I think letting the current incarnation of the PSSI continue as is for
>> another year while we make plans to change it is wise.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 04:38:33 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:08:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Reckoning time
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>
>
>>
> I month ago he said he is taking sabbatical from all volunteer activities.
>

?Yes i heard the same from him, that brings us to the question of who from
Bangalore is willing and can lead the effort??

thanks
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 04:59:25 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:29:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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>
>
> I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
>


?Cool Lets start looking into Sponsorship deck and Venue , do you have any
idea who was the access to sponsorship doc which is presently hosted on
website ?


-Satya
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From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar  8 05:01:23 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:31:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:29 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>> I will be able to help with local logistics, venue, sponsorship etc.
>>
>
>
> ?Cool Lets start looking into Sponsorship deck and Venue , do you have any
> idea who was the access to sponsorship doc which is presently hosted on
> website ?
>

?The last update on sponsorship is here
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2018-January/011769.html?



>
>
> -Satya
> Satyaakam.net <http://satyaakam.net/> | fossevents.in |
> ** For all official purposes use my name as Satyakam Goswami **
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>
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 05:10:34 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:40:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Workgroups
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>
>
> ?The last update on sponsorship is here https://mail.python.org/
> pipermail/inpycon/2018-January/011769.html?
>

?Sorry if i was not clear i  was referring to the sponsor?ship doc


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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 05:36:21 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:06:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorship for PyCon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CADNZ_5mTGNcVCVtbMDS4TFqRvcP+JiiSAnopTzZHJdRNYUO4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Comment with your thoughts on this sponsorship slabs or add points
> into the sponsorship slab/brochure.
>


?Hi Sayan,

Can you give Sree and me access to the sponsorship document .


thanks
?



-Satya
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar  8 11:32:13 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:02:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Inviting Satyakam to chair the event
Message-ID: <87tvtqedf6.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Hello Satya,
      From the conversations so far on the thread, I think you'd be the
right man for the job as chair of the event. It can get tricky doing it
from Delhi but there seem to be enough volunteers on the ground to get
things done locally. 

      Do you think you have the bandwidth to take on the role? Once the
wheels start to turn and someone from Bangalore is sufficiently invested
into the project, you can hand over the responsibilities if you see fit
and he or she agrees. 

Thanks
       
      

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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 13:10:56 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 23:40:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFwzAfuXwwOzPeQLW=ysNg+PmuOSgkriHv67bPgySW=8bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGO4j2kA59SjN1Nxo2gyZCw79iFM183hR8+gZdUVZTUqdFUuhw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <
> chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be
>> raised for
>> sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share
>> invoice as
>> they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely
>> understand we
>> wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board
>> while
>> we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of
>> PSSI
>> suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
>> days for PSSI
>> treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks
>> like
>> PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are
>> citing
>> like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let
>> other
>> teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And
>> that
>> makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?)
>> running PSSI
>> are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the
>> community
>> in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
>> organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone
>> please
>> tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do
>> not
>> show your concern about the community when you do not care about the
>> community
>> at all.
>>
>
> There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.
>
> https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf
>
> In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded
> Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
> Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India
> from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes,
> many of you don't know that).
>

Request you not to mistake me for asking this. But I could not understand
"for PyCon India" in the above statement.

Anand C,
I would request you to provide complete info for everybody here to
understand. All I asked Sree was to share the soft copy of invoice when the
hard copy was already couriered. Even after repeated requests Sree neither
shared the soft copy with PSSI board members nor with PyCon India core
volunteers. This was not the first time he did this but he did the same
during PyCon India 2017 for every payment or invoice. He always agrees to
follow a protocol defined however,when the time comes, he ignores the
protocols and end up doing what he wants. He ignores the reminders and
requests to follow what we agreed as well.


Just to let everyone know here, I had requested Sree to share PyCon India
2016 and 2017 expense report which he agreed. But he never could get
approval from the core team of PyCon India 2016 and 2017 to share the same
even after multiple requests. After which he requested PSSI executive
members to process Audit report of 2016-17. I would request everyone here
to help me understand how an Audit report can be processed without knowing
the expense report of the one and only event supported by PSSI.

And for the record, Anand C and even the President of PSSI did not take any
action to get PSSI follow process instead I was questioned for requesting
to follow process. And it continues here as well.

Also, every year PSSI comes up with new process for PyCon India depending
on who are leading PyCon India that year. In PyCon India 2017, PSSI agreed
to let the core volunteers take decisions on everything related to the
event and PSSI act only provide financial support. But in 2018, the process
was changed and the core volunteers were not consulted neither their
concerns were considered. That was the reason I said that we might have to
rethink on working with PSSI. The email shared by Anand C has all the
necessary info.

I had a hard time making PSSI board members understand our bye-law to
involve executive members of PSSI in all the decision taking. I took that
struggle hope that would help resolve the issues in PSSI but you went ahead
with dissolving the board without even understanding how Indian law works
and what is there in the bye-law.

How can one trust PSSI when there are so many internal conflicts?

Note: I was told repeatedly that PSF has given PSSI authority to run PyCon
India. Could you please provide me insights as to when and how this
discussion with PSF happened. Being a PSSI secretary, I do not have this
details.

All this make me feel that a set of people here has something against me
and come hard on me for whatever I say or do.



> I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need
> to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no
> sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and
> let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and
> drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.
>
>
Thanks to you, who helped creating PSSI bye-law, we cannot just get the new
members in and replace the board at once. Any member must complete a year
before becoming a board member. Looks like you missed to read the response
instead made up mind that we are not agreeing by just checking who the
sender is.
Sorry to say I can't support illogical and immature decision like this.
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Fri Mar  9 09:15:34 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 19:45:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorship for PyCon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CALre89=6-6L0EQ0A5p7NKCXHNQPzeUYaK9ft8O4ifCjqh02jWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNZ_5mTGNcVCVtbMDS4TFqRvcP+JiiSAnopTzZHJdRNYUO4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:06 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Comment with your thoughts on this sponsorship slabs or add points
>> into the sponsorship slab/brochure.
>>
>
>
> ?Hi Sayan,
>
> Can you give Sree and me access to the sponsorship document .
>
>
?Gentle reminder  to give access :-) ?

?cheers?

?
?
-Satya
Satyaakam.net <http://satyaakam.net/> | fossevents.in |
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From vani.pree at gmail.com  Sat Mar 10 16:02:24 2018
From: vani.pree at gmail.com (Vanitha Shanmugam)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 02:32:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Concerns/Issues with PSSI (WAS: Stepping down from
 the PyCon India 2018 core team)
Message-ID: <CAHioFSdrC7FTrXnUa7hSsmsbpyaHhiNohR7ude=KoQjthB4V8A@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 March 2018 at 23:40, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>>>
>> There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.
>>
>> https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf
>>
>> In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded
>> Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
>> Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India
>> from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes,
>> many of you don't know that).
>>
>
> Request you not to mistake me for asking this. But I could not understand
> "for PyCon India" in the above statement.
>
> Anand C,
> I would request you to provide complete info for everybody here to
> understand. All I asked Sree was to share the soft copy of invoice when the
> hard copy was already couriered. Even after repeated requests Sree neither
> shared the soft copy with PSSI board members nor with PyCon India core
> volunteers. This was not the first time he did this but he did the same
> during PyCon India 2017 for every payment or invoice. He always agrees to
> follow a protocol defined however,when the time comes, he ignores the
> protocols and end up doing what he wants. He ignores the reminders and
> requests to follow what we agreed as well.
>
>
> Just to let everyone know here, I had requested Sree to share PyCon India
> 2016 and 2017 expense report which he agreed. But he never could get
> approval from the core team of PyCon India 2016 and 2017 to share the same
> even after multiple requests. After which he requested PSSI executive
> members to process Audit report of 2016-17. I would request everyone here
> to help me understand how an Audit report can be processed without knowing
> the expense report of the one and only event supported by PSSI.
>
> And for the record, Anand C and even the President of PSSI did not take
> any action to get PSSI follow process instead I was questioned for
> requesting to follow process. And it continues here as well.
>
> Also, every year PSSI comes up with new process for PyCon India depending
> on who are leading PyCon India that year. In PyCon India 2017, PSSI agreed
> to let the core volunteers take decisions on everything related to the
> event and PSSI act only provide financial support. But in 2018, the process
> was changed and the core volunteers were not consulted neither their
> concerns were considered. That was the reason I said that we might have to
> rethink on working with PSSI. The email shared by Anand C has all the
> necessary info.
>
> I had a hard time making PSSI board members understand our bye-law to
> involve executive members of PSSI in all the decision taking. I took that
> struggle hope that would help resolve the issues in PSSI but you went ahead
> with dissolving the board without even understanding how Indian law works
> and what is there in the bye-law.
>
> How can one trust PSSI when there are so many internal conflicts?
>
> Note: I was told repeatedly that PSF has given PSSI authority to run PyCon
> India. Could you please provide me insights as to when and how this
> discussion with PSF happened. Being a PSSI secretary, I do not have this
> details.
>
> All this make me feel that a set of people here has something against me
> and come hard on me for whatever I say or do.
>
>
>
>> I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need
>> to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no
>> sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and
>> let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and
>> drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.
>>
>>
> Thanks to you, who helped creating PSSI bye-law, we cannot just get the
> new members in and replace the board at once. Any member must complete a
> year before becoming a board member. Looks like you missed to read the
> response instead made up mind that we are not agreeing by just checking who
> the sender is.
>

+1
Including email discussion on dissolving board in PSSI mailing list for
reference here. [0]

Just curious, if it was just me and Vijay who did not agree to dissolve the
board, why PSSI did not proceed with dissolving the board? In a community,
you cannot wait for consensus from every member and everybody has rights to
share their opinion and the decision goes with majority. There are 12
executive members [1] and how can just 2 people disagreeing impact a
decision?

Please do not expect everybody to agree with what you say and naming them
in public just because they did not accept does not look sensible to me.
Request you to respect everybody's opinion.

Also, we suggested to open membership to gradually replace PSSI board as
replacing board at once by nominating people was not an option as per PSSI
bye-law. We even called for a meeting to discuss about membership policy
and also on opening membership. Only 4 members (Sree, Krace, Vijay and me)
attended the meeting. Anand C who suggested to dissolve the board did not
attend the meeting. I wonder if it was done intentionally to dissolve the
board as suggestion provided was not processed.

If I remember right, the 5 year term of existing board will be completed by
this June and we do not have members to take over PSSI. This was
communicated well before requesting to open membership and we could not
come up with policy still.

None of the policies made in PSSI are followed. We have had so many
discussions in PSSI mailing list to get answers for certain queries and
also to make sure the process is followed. But nothing has helped. There
are lot many open email threads and I have no trust that those threads will
be closed. I hope this email will not be added to that list and request
everybody here to suggest a way forward to fix this.


[0] : https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VCN27zqKzQb8tpT9foNiLKUMKR4oT2nu
[1] : https://pssi.org.in/  <https://pssi.org.in/>




Thanks,
Vanitha
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From sayan.chowdhury2012 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 11 15:02:56 2018
From: sayan.chowdhury2012 at gmail.com (Sayan Chowdhury)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 00:32:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorship for PyCon India 2018
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References: <CADNZ_5mTGNcVCVtbMDS4TFqRvcP+JiiSAnopTzZHJdRNYUO4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Gentle reminder  to give access :-)

I don't have the access to the sponsorship document.

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From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 11:48:42 2018
From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:18:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
Message-ID: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
       Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the
1st weekend of October, 2018.

We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.

So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.

If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are
all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".


Regards,
Mani
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From blucalvin at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 11:56:58 2018
From: blucalvin at gmail.com (Haris Ibrahim K. V.)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:26:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+6J30_yWpaCWsXffiJ-Y44GMZ3BMzrPj=JvmBsNQ2B-bfCrgg@mail.gmail.com>

On 12 March 2018 at 21:18, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the
> 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
> spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event happen
> in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running the
> event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are
> all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".

+1. Good on you take the initiative and drop this mail. :)

However, it does seem that some work has started happening on the
ground with the recent mails from Satyakaam and Bibhas. So do take
inputs from them as well. But I whole heatedly agree this gesture and
looking forward to taking this as an excuse to visit Hyderabad as
well!

>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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@harisibrahimkv

From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 12:23:55 2018
From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:23:55 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CA+6J30_yWpaCWsXffiJ-Y44GMZ3BMzrPj=JvmBsNQ2B-bfCrgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB=suEnE5kaPxz=27ZKkA8XRT2eMZ0dRjyg70_3qvG85yaycrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 at 21:29 Haris Ibrahim K. V. <blucalvin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 12 March 2018 at 21:18, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
> the
> > 1st weekend of October, 2018.
> >
> > We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> > relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> > speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> > Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment &
> free
> > spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> > disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> > Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> > jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the
> community.
> >
> > So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> > Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy
> volunteers
> > will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen
> > in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running the
> > event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
> >
> > If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are
> > all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>
> +1. Good on you take the initiative and drop this mail. :)
>
> However, it does seem that some work has started happening on the
> ground with the recent mails from Satyakaam and Bibhas. So do take
> inputs from them as well. But I whole heatedly agree this gesture and
> looking forward to taking this as an excuse to visit Hyderabad as
> well!
>

+1
Personally I'd love to see this happen.


>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mani
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Haris Ibrahim K. V.
> http://sosaysharis.wordpress.com
> @harisibrahimkv
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Mon Mar 12 13:14:28 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:44:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
 (E. Manivannan's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:18:42 +0530")
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <874llldxmz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Mon, Mar 12 2018, E Manivannan wrote:


[...]

> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event
> in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy
> volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make
> this event happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of
> automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.

[...]

I'm very much +1 on this. It addresses so many things
- Allows the event to take place at another prominent city. 
- Leverages an already assembled team so that the details are taken care
  of. 
- Will allow the event to go on without a break. 

I'm sure there are details to work out but this is a very welcome step
forward given the limbo we were in. It would be nice if any objections
and concerns were brought up on this thread so that the team from
Hyderabad can address them satisfactorily if possible.


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From joinalahmed at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 00:35:28 2018
From: joinalahmed at gmail.com (JOINAL AHMED)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:05:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <874llldxmz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
 <874llldxmz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <CAAijkVHW7Pc+ykeEgLbUNkeZagDRyGKMaruRnNNme-U=z78DDg@mail.gmail.com>

+1

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 12 2018, E Manivannan wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
> > So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event
> > in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy
> > volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make
> > this event happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of
> > automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> [...]
>
> I'm very much +1 on this. It addresses so many things
> - Allows the event to take place at another prominent city.
> - Leverages an already assembled team so that the details are taken care
>   of.
> - Will allow the event to go on without a break.
>
> I'm sure there are details to work out but this is a very welcome step
> forward given the limbo we were in. It would be nice if any objections
> and concerns were brought up on this thread so that the team from
> Hyderabad can address them satisfactorily if possible.
>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



-- 
Thanks
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From yk.301189 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 01:10:10 2018
From: yk.301189 at gmail.com (Yogesh Kumar)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:40:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
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Hi Manivanna,

I'm in.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:05 AM, JOINAL AHMED <joinalahmed at gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <
> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 12 2018, E Manivannan wrote:
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event
>> > in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy
>> > volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make
>> > this event happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of
>> > automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I'm very much +1 on this. It addresses so many things
>> - Allows the event to take place at another prominent city.
>> - Leverages an already assembled team so that the details are taken care
>>   of.
>> - Will allow the event to go on without a break.
>>
>> I'm sure there are details to work out but this is a very welcome step
>> forward given the limbo we were in. It would be nice if any objections
>> and concerns were brought up on this thread so that the team from
>> Hyderabad can address them satisfactorily if possible.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Joinal Ahmed
> Assam University Silchar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 12:17:54 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 21:47:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFx80ShsfkXL7zNbKis5p_dbxsjf3w2YG-C_K-D7Vz5BZg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mar 12, 2018 9:19 PM, "E Manivannan" <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
wrote:


Hi All,
       Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the
1st weekend of October, 2018.

We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.

So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.

If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are
all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".


+1

I think you will have enough atonomy to running the event. PSSI need to be
involved for receiving and sending/paying money and paying taxes.
It would be good to use this mailing list for most of the discussions so
that everyone is aware of what is going on.

Anand
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From aryanshashank31 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 12:45:12 2018
From: aryanshashank31 at gmail.com (Shashank Aryan)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:45:12 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+39tBOic39Hg+8K8gzJ909-LT-jBdAmt-PwRcqpU5Q=FxFryg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon 12 Mar, 2018, 9:19 PM E Manivannan, <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
> spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>

+1


>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon


Regards
-Shashank


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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Wed Mar 14 13:26:13 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:56:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
 (E. Manivannan's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:18:42 +0530")
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87tvtid0wa.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


The vibes seem to be generally positive. Anyone see any downsides to
this? If not, I think it would be wise to discuss how the PSSI can help
with sponsorships etc.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From satyaakam at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 08:25:16 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:55:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALre89kEGpjJJTXNSKzHQuKnHxRWK8HUf6tCkCskd45gXkM3bg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:18 PM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.
com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
> spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>

?Thanks Mani for pitching in on behalf of HydPy , we are in crunch time and
need to take decisions now , Let me reiterate No matter where it happens in
Bengaluru or Hyderabad  we from PyDelhi will co?ordinate and help in making
the event a Success.


What we have

?We have the website in place ?, sponsorship doc done we still some work
with the slots and pricing.
Folks who are ready to volunteer from across India.



?What we need ?

?1. A person who can be Chair
?2. Workgroups and a Core local group
3. A venue  with main hall for around 1500-2000 Seating capacity in one
hall and separate halls around 6 in number with a capacity of 200-300
people seating
4. Internet facility for the participants ( i see ACT as a potential
sponsor they are both in Bengaluru and Hyderabad)
5. We need a call to freeze the timelines then communicate it  to the
mailing list


let me know if i missed something. I am expecting a reply to this mail with
data by Monday 19th March :-)


cheers,
-Satya
Satyaakam.net <http://satyaakam.net/> | fossevents.in |
** For all official purposes use my name as Satyakam Goswami **
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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 10:45:37 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:15:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajSK9HB39bjh_nUN3atPYwVcbZbQqaqwXOVdT7ryHLZWKw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:18 PM, E Manivannan <
elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
> spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>
>
> +1.
Just to be clear, want to understand the level of autonomy you are looking
for.
Since PyCon India is a national level event and Python communities from all
over India contributes to make the event happen, its better to have all
major discussions and decisions in the mailing list. And also, volunteers
from all over India should be given equal opportunities and credits without
any discrimination.

Working with PSSI could be hectic sometimes as things might not be
processed on time. It would be best to work out the involvement of PSSI
with PyCon India well before as there are lots of confusion around that
(just an accounting body in year *2017* which was changed in *2018* when we
started with PyCon India initially).

Just to remind one more thing here, the five year term of PSSI board
members ends by this June and would be better to clarify the next steps
before proceeding with PyCon India *2018* to avoid any confusion later.

Thanks,
Vijay
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From gauravchawla at live.com  Thu Mar 15 10:46:18 2018
From: gauravchawla at live.com (GOURAV CHAWLA)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:46:18 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkVAtto4w8hTcSSq7h=Af5s=ctsr3TLvCg1_NWaNVC4vyaNBQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
>

So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>

+1


-- 

Gourav Chawla
https://gouravchawla.com
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 15 12:59:32 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 22:29:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CALre89kEGpjJJTXNSKzHQuKnHxRWK8HUf6tCkCskd45gXkM3bg@mail.gmail.com>
 (satyakam goswami's message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:55:16 +0530")
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <87o9jpcm17.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Thu, Mar 15 2018, satyakam goswami wrote:


[...]

> ?Thanks Mani for pitching in on behalf of HydPy , we are in crunch time and
> need to take decisions now , Let me reiterate No matter where it happens in
> Bengaluru or Hyderabad  we from PyDelhi will co?ordinate and help in making
> the event a Success.
>
>
> What we have
>
> ?We have the website in place ?, sponsorship doc done we still some work
> with the slots and pricing.  Folks who are ready to volunteer from
> across India.

I think this can be integrated with the document the folks in Hyderabad
for their event. I imagine there should be something of that kind
already there.


[...]

> ?1. A person who can be Chair

It sounds to me like Manivannan would be that person. The rest of your
points need to be resolved here. 

> ?2. Workgroups and a Core local group
> 3. A venue  with main hall for around 1500-2000 Seating capacity in one
> hall and separate halls around 6 in number with a capacity of 200-300
> people seating
> 4. Internet facility for the participants ( i see ACT as a potential
> sponsor they are both in Bengaluru and Hyderabad)
> 5. We need a call to freeze the timelines then communicate it  to the
> mailing list
>
>
> let me know if i missed something. I am expecting a reply to this mail with
> data by Monday 19th March :-)

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 15 13:15:01 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 22:45:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajSK9HB39bjh_nUN3atPYwVcbZbQqaqwXOVdT7ryHLZWKw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:15:37 +0530")
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Message-ID: <87in9xclbe.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Thu, Mar 15 2018, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]
> Working with PSSI could be hectic sometimes as things might not be
> processed on time. It would be best to work out the involvement of
> PSSI with PyCon India well before as there are lots of confusion
> around that (just an accounting body in year *2017* which was changed
> in *2018* when we started with PyCon India initially).
[...]

PSSI is in a state of flux and I think it's best to keep it away as much
as possible. The only thing I think where it can or should help is with
managing money for the sponsorships. 


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From abc at shanky.xyz  Thu Mar 15 13:59:05 2018
From: abc at shanky.xyz (Shashank Kumar)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:29:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qLwQuOt1vn9=s_xXz2__YhxyR3sKyjHE+LJuWzw2PB75A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <faa0280d-dfc0-83cb-59e7-e6e550b1fd25@shanky.xyz>

Hi

On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote:

>
> Hi All,
> ? ? ? ?Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad"
> in the 1st weekend of October, 2018.?
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.?
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment &
> free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India.
> However I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was
> very sad when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also
> seems to be in jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me &
> rest of the community.?
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event
> in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.? Current HydPy
> volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make
> this event happen in October, 2018.? We would need some level of
> automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.?
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise
> you are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".?
>
>
> Regards,
> Mani

Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this.

Regards
Shashank Kumar
https://blog.shanky.xyz

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From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com  Sun Mar 18 02:16:54 2018
From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:46:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
Message-ID: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
         Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing

I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please provide
your input as comment or respond on this email thread.

Regards,
Mani


*Note*: Changed the subject to have clear thread.



On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Shashank Kumar <abc at shanky.xyz> wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>
> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free
> spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm
> disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when
> Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>
> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>
> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
> Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this.
>
> Regards
> Shashank Kumar
> https://blog.shanky.xyz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Sun Mar 18 03:00:11 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 12:30:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALre89m_5HXVMzAU=5CAzd-7xnVUJW=mB1+QW5hGFtmtgOwFGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:46 AM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.
com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>          Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event
> - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdA
> JwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please
> provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread.
>


Do not see the Venue options and there costing
Finance can be handled by directly paying to the vendor from the sponsor or
PSSI can release the amount to the vendor all these are much issues at much
later stages.
Tickets suggest and amount what the team things is reasonable

?more comments on the document


cheers
-Satya
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From rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 00:23:44 2018
From: rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com (Rajat Saini)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 09:53:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CALre89m_5HXVMzAU=5CAzd-7xnVUJW=mB1+QW5hGFtmtgOwFGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALre89m_5HXVMzAU=5CAzd-7xnVUJW=mB1+QW5hGFtmtgOwFGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGVsyGyDNWVPh0ve0KT9qF0CtpeTEh3C457e1HbCMBqLe6sDkw@mail.gmail.com>

Can you guys please check if it is possible to conduct 2 days of dev
sprint. So in that way, we have a 4-day event. And if we go for 4-day event
then pricing of tickets should be reconsidered.

And as I can see on your Budget sheet that you have mentioned
IIT-Hyderabad. I hope you have considered the strength we get at PyCon. My
only concern is about the venue.

Rest looks fine to me.

Cheers!!!

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:30 PM, satyakam goswami <satyaakam at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:46 AM, E Manivannan <
> elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>          Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event
>> - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdA
>> JwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please
>> provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread.
>>
>
>
> Do not see the Venue options and there costing
> Finance can be handled by directly paying to the vendor from the sponsor
> or PSSI can release the amount to the vendor all these are much issues at
> much later stages.
> Tickets suggest and amount what the team things is reasonable
>
> ?more comments on the document
>
>
> cheers
> -Satya
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 01:37:13 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:07:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CAGVsyGyDNWVPh0ve0KT9qF0CtpeTEh3C457e1HbCMBqLe6sDkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALre89m_5HXVMzAU=5CAzd-7xnVUJW=mB1+QW5hGFtmtgOwFGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGVsyGyDNWVPh0ve0KT9qF0CtpeTEh3C457e1HbCMBqLe6sDkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALre89kiU7qoP-47QuqmL9R16hpaJY07m1BtacXNMrLebfKyng@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Rajat Saini <rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you guys please check if it is possible to conduct 2 days of dev
> sprint. So in that way, we have a 4-day event. And if we go for 4-day event
> then pricing of tickets should be reconsidered.
>
> And as I can see on your Budget sheet that you have mentioned
> IIT-Hyderabad. I hope you have considered the strength we get at PyCon. My
> only concern is about the venue.
>


?Where did you see the IIT-Hyderabad as a possible venue , i am against IIT
Hyderabad as a venue because of the distance from Airport and City also no
hotels etc to stay nearby.


thanks

-Satya
Satyaakam.net <http://satyaakam.net/> | fossevents.in |
** For all official purposes use my name as Satyakam Goswami **?

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From satyaakam at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 01:40:11 2018
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyakam goswami)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:10:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CALre89kiU7qoP-47QuqmL9R16hpaJY07m1BtacXNMrLebfKyng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALre89m_5HXVMzAU=5CAzd-7xnVUJW=mB1+QW5hGFtmtgOwFGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGVsyGyDNWVPh0ve0KT9qF0CtpeTEh3C457e1HbCMBqLe6sDkw@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> And as I can see on your Budget sheet that you have mentioned
>> IIT-Hyderabad. I hope you have considered the strength we get at PyCon. My
>> only concern is about the venue.
>>
>
>
> ?Where did you see the IIT-Hyderabad as a possible venue , i am against
> IIT Hyderabad as a venue because of the distance from Airport and City also
> no hotels etc to stay nearby.
>
??

?Ok now i see it its IIIT Hyderabad so yeah that is acceptable ?:-)
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From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Mar 19 03:35:00 2018
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:05:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EB04FC9-DB04-4756-97D5-5EFFE50D553C@mahiti.org>



> On 18-Mar-2018, at 11:46 AM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>          Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing>
> 
> I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread.

Glad to see so much progress. Let?s form working groups and get more people to participate.
Sree

> 
> Regards,
> Mani
> 
> 
> Note: Changed the subject to have clear thread. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Shashank Kumar <abc at shanky.xyz <mailto:abc at shanky.xyz>> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the 1st weekend of October, 2018. 
>> 
>> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international speakers to be the keynote speakers as well. 
>> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was               very sad when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community. 
>> 
>> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc. 
>> 
>> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018". 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mani
> 
> Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this.
> 
> Regards
> Shashank Kumar
> https://blog.shanky.xyz <https://blog.shanky.xyz/>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 09:24:11 2018
From: rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com (Rajat Saini)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:54:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <6EB04FC9-DB04-4756-97D5-5EFFE50D553C@mahiti.org>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <6EB04FC9-DB04-4756-97D5-5EFFE50D553C@mahiti.org>
Message-ID: <CAGVsyGwcWW-mqbHMu-f=9AG2yEFEQ3owYJWbiVt01LNmKRSWDg@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, Delhi team is ready to participate in every possible way. I can help
with designing part. If you guys need any help or i get to know any work
left in that domain I am there to volunteer.

On 19-Mar-2018 13:05, "Sreekanth S Rameshaiah" <sree at mahiti.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 18-Mar-2018, at 11:46 AM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>          Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event
> - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-
> cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please
> provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread.
>
>
> Glad to see so much progress. Let?s form working groups and get more
> people to participate.
> Sree
>
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
> *Note*: Changed the subject to have clear thread.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Shashank Kumar <abc at shanky.xyz> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
>> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>>
>> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
>> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
>> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
>> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment &
>> free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However
>> I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad
>> when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
>> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>>
>> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
>> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
>> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
>> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
>> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>>
>> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
>> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>>
>>
>> Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this.
>>
>> Regards
>> Shashank Kumar
>> https://blog.shanky.xyz
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
> Executive Director
> Mahiti
> +91-98455-12611
> http://mahiti.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 12:54:43 2018
From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:24:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
In-Reply-To: <CAGVsyGwcWW-mqbHMu-f=9AG2yEFEQ3owYJWbiVt01LNmKRSWDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+qJCoRB83x7++bMZqJ3aw7cndP63GDG3vRSfZ+yoqPbzxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <6EB04FC9-DB04-4756-97D5-5EFFE50D553C@mahiti.org>
 <CAGVsyGwcWW-mqbHMu-f=9AG2yEFEQ3owYJWbiVt01LNmKRSWDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTR+qK7uCSaAiOb94PncdhXTM5TOoy5aEJUrs-GHoUwUVCDjA@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,
        Thank you all for your input... I love all the comment & suggestion
recived so far.

Few clarification:
         - Budget sheet presented is a "Sample Template" not the actual
sheet.  Actual sheet will be shared with everyone at the end of conference.
         - Venue is being currently worked out - we are awaiting quote from
them.
         - Format of the event is not finalised. Will definitely consider 4
day event.

*Final Confirmation*: I'm assuming No one has objection to Pycon India 2018
being held in Hyderabad. My next steps & actions from Hydpy volunteer are
waiting on this regard. Volunteer will start the formation of workgroup &
other activities from 21st Mar, 2018.

"Speak now or forever hold your peace" .. ?

Regards,
Mani



On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Rajat Saini <rajatvaidya14 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, Delhi team is ready to participate in every possible way. I can help
> with designing part. If you guys need any help or i get to know any work
> left in that domain I am there to volunteer.
>
> On 19-Mar-2018 13:05, "Sreekanth S Rameshaiah" <sree at mahiti.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 18-Mar-2018, at 11:46 AM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>          Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event
>> - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdA
>> JwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please
>> provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread.
>>
>>
>> Glad to see so much progress. Let?s form working groups and get more
>> people to participate.
>> Sree
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>>
>>
>> *Note*: Changed the subject to have clear thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Shashank Kumar <abc at shanky.xyz> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>        Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in
>>> the 1st weekend of October, 2018.
>>>
>>> We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference
>>> relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international
>>> speakers to be the keynote speakers as well.
>>> Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment &
>>> free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However
>>> I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad
>>> when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in
>>> jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community.
>>>
>>> So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in
>>> Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year.  Current HydPy volunteers
>>> will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event
>>> happen in October, 2018.  We would need some level of automnomy in running
>>> the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc.
>>>
>>> If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you
>>> are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018".
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mani
>>>
>>>
>>> Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Shashank Kumar
>>> https://blog.shanky.xyz
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
>> Executive Director
>> Mahiti
>> +91-98455-12611
>> http://mahiti.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 09:54:20 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:24:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajTPqOLL+C5e8PfybR=mZUm1BPCy=86iLxuSjsyyMyLxDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHX9ajTPqOLL+C5e8PfybR=mZUm1BPCy=86iLxuSjsyyMyLxDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajTeBG4bmyyR1pmkSJyr9GZe6cYU6JiNiWvU8bvs=K6aKA@mail.gmail.com>

I got call from BIEC  POC on next payment and other details.

Since Hyderabad group are planning to conduct PyCon India this year, I will
request BIEC to cancel our booking.

Note: We have to confirm BIEC  from our side by tomorrow morning 11 AM .
In case i don't hear back , I will go ahead and request him to proceed with
cancellation.


On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 6:47 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> As announced in the mailing list earlier, we have booked BIEC[0] for
> August 22nd - August 24th, 2018.
>
> Below are the payment details.
>
> Tentative cost: 14 Lakhs for 3 days
>
> Payment made:
> 10% : 2nd week of Dec
>
> Remaining payment:
> 20% : Feb 2018
> 20% : April 2018
> 50% : 1 month before the event.
>
> I would request the team leading PyCon India 2018 to connect with me so
> that I drop introductory email with BIEC team.
>
>
> On sponsorship,
>
> We reached out to all previous PyCon India sponsors
> We received confirmation from Pipal Academy (Associate sponsorship with
> 50% discount since they are supporting PyCon India from couple of years)
> for whom PSSI has raised invoice and I believe it was shared with the
> sponsor as well.
> Discussions were initiated by couple of other sponsors but have not
> received any confirmation, neither did I follow up with them after I
> stepped down.
>
> Request PyCon India 2018 team to connect with me if any additional details
> required, I would be happy to help.
>
>
> [0] : https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2017-December/011433.html
>
>
> Thanks,
> Vijay
>
>
>
>


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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Wed Mar 21 12:52:23 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:22:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajTeBG4bmyyR1pmkSJyr9GZe6cYU6JiNiWvU8bvs=K6aKA@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:24:20 +0530")
References: <CAHX9ajTPqOLL+C5e8PfybR=mZUm1BPCy=86iLxuSjsyyMyLxDg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajTeBG4bmyyR1pmkSJyr9GZe6cYU6JiNiWvU8bvs=K6aKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87vadp8j7c.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Wed, Mar 21 2018, vijay kumar wrote:

> I got call from BIEC  POC on next payment and other details.
>
> Since Hyderabad group are planning to conduct PyCon India this year, I will
> request BIEC to cancel our booking.
>
> Note: We have to confirm BIEC  from our side by tomorrow morning 11 AM .
> In case i don't hear back , I will go ahead and request him to proceed with
> cancellation.

Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?


[...]

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From sree at mahiti.org  Thu Mar 22 07:29:10 2018
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:59:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
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On Mar 21, 2018 10:15 PM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

On Wed, Mar 21 2018, vijay kumar wrote:

> I got call from BIEC  POC on next payment and other details.
>
> Since Hyderabad group are planning to conduct PyCon India this year, I
will
> request BIEC to cancel our booking.
>
> Note: We have to confirm BIEC  from our side by tomorrow morning 11 AM .
> In case i don't hear back , I will go ahead and request him to proceed
with
> cancellation.

Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?


We need the estimation letter given by them and receipt for payment
received as advance.
We should request for refund.
Sree



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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 10:01:34 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:31:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 21, 2018 10:15 PM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 21 2018, vijay kumar wrote:
>
> > I got call from BIEC  POC on next payment and other details.
> >
> > Since Hyderabad group are planning to conduct PyCon India this year, I
> will
> > request BIEC to cancel our booking.
> >
> > Note: We have to confirm BIEC  from our side by tomorrow morning 11 AM .
> > In case i don't hear back , I will go ahead and request him to proceed
> with
> > cancellation.
>
> Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?
>
>
> We need the estimation letter given by them and receipt for payment
> received as advance.
> We should request for refund.
>

Sree,
I have introduced you to BIEC POC over email already.
Please go ahead and do the needful.
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From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 10:40:12 2018
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:10:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
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Apologies for top posting.


Looks like community is neither bothered about the concerns raised on PSSI
nor does it want to bring transparency in PSSI/PyCon India with accounts
and the policies followed on all aspects. I tried my best to clear things
out with internal discussions and also tried bringing a couple of things
here in the mailing list. It seems to me that you have to be friends of
senior people here to get answers. Otherwise your concerns will be
neglected altogether and you will be targeted badly even for a small
mistake of yours. I do not have time, energy or patience to fight
indefinitely.

Just to make my stand clear, am not comfortable with the culture PSSI
follows. Being secretary of PSSI , I doubt I can co-operate without
transparency in policies and procedures PSSI follows and also all the
queries raised are not addressed. I do not entertain groupism in open
source community and do not want to be indulged in one. If we cannot work
as one team, we cannot call ourself open source community.

Hope this email will be taken constructively and I won't be targeted for
this email again.


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:40 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <
>> chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be
>>> raised for
>>> sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share
>>> invoice as
>>> they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely
>>> understand we
>>> wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI
>>> board while
>>> we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of
>>> PSSI
>>> suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
>>> days for PSSI
>>> treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.
>>> Looks like
>>> PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are
>>> citing
>>> like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let
>>> other
>>> teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And
>>> that
>>> makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?)
>>> running PSSI
>>> are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the
>>> community
>>> in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
>>> organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone
>>> please
>>> tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do
>>> not
>>> show your concern about the community when you do not care about the
>>> community
>>> at all.
>>>
>>
>> There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.
>>
>> https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf
>>
>> In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded
>> Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
>> Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India
>> from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes,
>> many of you don't know that).
>>
>
> Request you not to mistake me for asking this. But I could not understand
> "for PyCon India" in the above statement.
>
> Anand C,
> I would request you to provide complete info for everybody here to
> understand. All I asked Sree was to share the soft copy of invoice when the
> hard copy was already couriered. Even after repeated requests Sree neither
> shared the soft copy with PSSI board members nor with PyCon India core
> volunteers. This was not the first time he did this but he did the same
> during PyCon India 2017 for every payment or invoice. He always agrees to
> follow a protocol defined however,when the time comes, he ignores the
> protocols and end up doing what he wants. He ignores the reminders and
> requests to follow what we agreed as well.
>
>
> Just to let everyone know here, I had requested Sree to share PyCon India
> 2016 and 2017 expense report which he agreed. But he never could get
> approval from the core team of PyCon India 2016 and 2017 to share the same
> even after multiple requests. After which he requested PSSI executive
> members to process Audit report of 2016-17. I would request everyone here
> to help me understand how an Audit report can be processed without knowing
> the expense report of the one and only event supported by PSSI.
>
> And for the record, Anand C and even the President of PSSI did not take
> any action to get PSSI follow process instead I was questioned for
> requesting to follow process. And it continues here as well.
>
> Also, every year PSSI comes up with new process for PyCon India depending
> on who are leading PyCon India that year. In PyCon India 2017, PSSI agreed
> to let the core volunteers take decisions on everything related to the
> event and PSSI act only provide financial support. But in 2018, the process
> was changed and the core volunteers were not consulted neither their
> concerns were considered. That was the reason I said that we might have to
> rethink on working with PSSI. The email shared by Anand C has all the
> necessary info.
>
> I had a hard time making PSSI board members understand our bye-law to
> involve executive members of PSSI in all the decision taking. I took that
> struggle hope that would help resolve the issues in PSSI but you went ahead
> with dissolving the board without even understanding how Indian law works
> and what is there in the bye-law.
>
> How can one trust PSSI when there are so many internal conflicts?
>
> Note: I was told repeatedly that PSF has given PSSI authority to run PyCon
> India. Could you please provide me insights as to when and how this
> discussion with PSF happened. Being a PSSI secretary, I do not have this
> details.
>
> All this make me feel that a set of people here has something against me
> and come hard on me for whatever I say or do.
>
>
>
>> I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need
>> to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no
>> sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and
>> let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and
>> drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.
>>
>>
> Thanks to you, who helped creating PSSI bye-law, we cannot just get the
> new members in and replace the board at once. Any member must complete a
> year before becoming a board member. Looks like you missed to read the
> response instead made up mind that we are not agreeing by just checking who
> the sender is.
> Sorry to say I can't support illogical and immature decision like this.
>
>


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From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 11:47:34 2018
From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:17:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
Message-ID: <CAPTR+q+ijPi24VjWmer2tApiktDcQzvE3dd1NJ_hdsoz3Y6h0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
        It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad by
Hydpy team.

As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
looking at different aspect of the conference.

   - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
   - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
   - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
      - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
   - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
      - Responsible for Finance & Ticket


They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
conference.


Regards,
Mani
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From joinalahmed at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 11:49:31 2018
From: joinalahmed at gmail.com (JOINAL AHMED)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:49:31 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
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so finally pycon india 2018 is happening

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 9:18 PM, E Manivannan <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>         It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad
> by Hydpy team.
>
> As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
> looking at different aspect of the conference.
>
>    - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
>    - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
>    - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
>       - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
>    - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
>       - Responsible for Finance & Ticket
>
>
> They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
> moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
> Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
> conference.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
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From maithani.aniket at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 11:50:16 2018
From: maithani.aniket at gmail.com (Aniket Maithani)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:20:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
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On Mar 22, 2018 21:18, "E Manivannan" <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi All,
        It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad by
Hydpy team.

As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
looking at different aspect of the conference.

   - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
   - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
   - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
      - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
   - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
      - Responsible for Finance & Ticket


They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
conference.


Regards,
Mani



Yay... Finally some action :)



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From aakanksha.jain8 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 12:07:49 2018
From: aakanksha.jain8 at gmail.com (Aakanksha Jain)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:37:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
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Good to see! Been following this mailing list. This was gonna be my 2nd
PyCon and I'm willing very much to volunteer this year!

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Aniket Maithani <maithani.aniket at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 22, 2018 21:18, "E Manivannan" <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>         It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad
> by Hydpy team.
>
> As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
> looking at different aspect of the conference.
>
>    - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
>    - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
>    - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
>       - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
>    - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
>       - Responsible for Finance & Ticket
>
>
> They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
> moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
> Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
> conference.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
>
> Yay... Finally some action :)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lifeofnavin at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 12:40:01 2018
From: lifeofnavin at gmail.com (Navin Pai)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:10:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Aakanksha Jain <aakanksha.jain8 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good to see! Been following this mailing list. This was gonna be my 2nd
> PyCon and I'm willing very much to volunteer this year!
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Aniket Maithani <
> maithani.aniket at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2018 21:18, "E Manivannan" <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>         It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad
>> by Hydpy team.
>>
>> As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
>> looking at different aspect of the conference.
>>
>>    - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
>>    - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
>>    - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
>>       - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
>>    - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
>>       - Responsible for Finance & Ticket
>>
>>
>> They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
>> moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
>> Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
>> conference.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mani
>>
>>
>>
>> Yay... Finally some action :)
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
Good to hear! Looking forward to helping out in any way possible! Let's
make this a great PyCon! :D :D
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 22 12:59:28 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:29:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajQ7qW45hvcGZB-MAJtT-9zgifn9ZuoFi-1mJibcS-6_Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:31:34 +0530")
References: <CAHX9ajTPqOLL+C5e8PfybR=mZUm1BPCy=86iLxuSjsyyMyLxDg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <87vadp8j7c.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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Message-ID: <87in9om4gf.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Please do the needful Sree. We don't need to lose any money because of this.x

On Thu, Mar 22 2018, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]

>> Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?
>>
>>
>> We need the estimation letter given by them and receipt for payment
>> received as advance.
>> We should request for refund.
>>
> Sree,
> I have introduced you to BIEC POC over email already.
> Please go ahead and do the needful.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 22 13:07:32 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:37:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajQ7qW45hvcGZB-MAJtT-9zgifn9ZuoFi-1mJibcS-6_Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:31:34 +0530")
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Please do the needful Sree. We don't need to lose any money because of this.

On Thu, Mar 22 2018, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]

>> Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?
>>
>>
>> We need the estimation letter given by them and receipt for payment
>> received as advance.
>> We should request for refund.
>>
> Sree,
> I have introduced you to BIEC POC over email already.
> Please go ahead and do the needful.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 22 13:13:12 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:43:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajTq1Wzk=gPXaoft9cHSGP-nw+uQk+T=_J10eVL2bzq4Cw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:10:12 +0530")
References: <CAGO4j2kA59SjN1Nxo2gyZCw79iFM183hR8+gZdUVZTUqdFUuhw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <87a7v0m3tj.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Thu, Mar 22 2018, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]


> Just to make my stand clear, am not comfortable with the culture PSSI
> follows. Being secretary of PSSI , I doubt I can co-operate without
> transparency in policies and procedures PSSI follows and also all the
> queries raised are not addressed. I do not entertain groupism in open
> source community and do not want to be indulged in one. If we cannot
> work as one team, we cannot call ourself open source community.

PSSI needs a complete overhaul. Let's just focus on making sure that
whatever resources it has (especially the ability handle amounts from
sponsors) is used to help the volunteers in Hyderabad this year. 

Once that's over, we'll reignite this thread and decide how to deal
with the PSSI.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Mar 22 13:13:20 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:43:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajTq1Wzk=gPXaoft9cHSGP-nw+uQk+T=_J10eVL2bzq4Cw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:10:12 +0530")
References: <CAGO4j2kA59SjN1Nxo2gyZCw79iFM183hR8+gZdUVZTUqdFUuhw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <877eq4m3tb.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Thu, Mar 22 2018, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]


> Just to make my stand clear, am not comfortable with the culture PSSI
> follows. Being secretary of PSSI , I doubt I can co-operate without
> transparency in policies and procedures PSSI follows and also all the
> queries raised are not addressed. I do not entertain groupism in open
> source community and do not want to be indulged in one. If we cannot
> work as one team, we cannot call ourself open source community.

PSSI needs a complete overhaul. Let's just focus on making sure that
whatever resources it has (especially the ability handle amounts from
sponsors) is used to help the volunteers in Hyderabad this year. 

Once that's over, we'll reignite this thread and decide how to deal
with the PSSI.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From me at bibhas.in  Thu Mar 22 14:10:29 2018
From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:10:29 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
In-Reply-To: <CAPTR+q+ijPi24VjWmer2tApiktDcQzvE3dd1NJ_hdsoz3Y6h0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTR+q+ijPi24VjWmer2tApiktDcQzvE3dd1NJ_hdsoz3Y6h0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG1ZUWfj0v0y4HqOqSqw4jtyTb1KnjnHCjDxpjkns-RV7akZVg@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant.

On Thu 22 Mar, 2018, 9:17 PM E Manivannan, <elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>         It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad
> by Hydpy team.
>
> As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be
> looking at different aspect of the conference.
>
>    - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram)
>    - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities
>    - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag)
>       - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design
>    - Gokul Vasan (Gokul)
>       - Responsible for Finance & Ticket
>
>
> They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of
> moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group.
> Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful
> conference.
>

Good to see this happening. ?



>
> Regards,
> Mani
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
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From ramanathanhari at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 14:22:17 2018
From: ramanathanhari at gmail.com (Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 23:52:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India | Workgroup Formation
Message-ID: <CAL+bSMUmXPWYnxcWW1bbno+tnAMgXh4q970_wi7vSMQgcMyUdg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

This mail is regarding workgroup formation for the various teams required
for PyCon India 2018.  Before we begin, I would like to state the below to
avoid any confusion.

*Workgroup* - Core group of people responsible for the execution of tasks
mandated for a given team.  The workgroup is also responsible for setting
guidelines on the team's working. As a community, we can come to a
consensus about people involved in a workgroup. Typically, we could have
4-6 people per workgroup. It would also be great to have representation
from various active Python communities so that the conference works as a
comprehensive effort by everybody.

*Volunteers* - The workgroup along with the volunteers execute the various
tasks in the shape and form as agreed within the workgroup. Ideally,
anybody and everybody who want to contribute to the given team can sign up
as volunteers.  Please note, a call for volunteers will follow once
workgroups are created.

*Local Moderators (HydPy in case of 2018)* - Responsible for moderating the
workgroup and coordinating things within the team.  They are also the Point
Of Contact for the conference chair for the given team.

*Conference Chair* - In case of any conflicts within the group (and the
moderator is unable to resolve), Conference chair will take the final
decision.

At this point, we need workgroups to be formed for the following teams.  I
have also mentioned the names of the HydPy Moderators for each of the teams.

1. *Website/Design* - Chirag Choudary/Ananyo Maiti
2. *CFP/Sessions* - Ramanathan R/Divya
3. *Sponsorship* - Chirag Choudhary/Kanchan
4. *Social Media* - Sanchit Balchandani

*Conference Chair* - Manivannan Elangovan


Local logistics will not need workgroup from outside of HydPy.  Finance
(coordination with PSSI) will be dealt directly by the conference chair +
HydPy moderators.  FTR, HydPy moderators for Finance team will be *Gokul
Vasan/Renu*.

I request the community to come forward and nominate yourself for being
part of a workgroup.  Please fill the google form (
https://goo.gl/forms/gUjqKPKi8Imhtjgn1) to nominate yourself.  The
nomination process would be closed by *March 28th*. Please note, this is
*not* a call for volunteers, and hence it would be great to have people
with some experience in respective/similar workgroups.

Request nobody to get offended as we are asking for prior experience. Given
that this is the first time we are trying out the workgroup model it would
be great if people with expertise come forward and set the process so that
the baton could be passed on to anybody interested from next year.


Cheers,
Ram.
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From chirag200666 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 11:24:31 2018
From: chirag200666 at gmail.com (Chirag Choudhary)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:24:31 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India | Workgroup Formation
In-Reply-To: <CAL+bSMUmXPWYnxcWW1bbno+tnAMgXh4q970_wi7vSMQgcMyUdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+bSMUmXPWYnxcWW1bbno+tnAMgXh4q970_wi7vSMQgcMyUdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACS8Zr98tpmkRuoJB76Ge0znFMPHpymxGP1FXFR0_pFY2Dx3AA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

A gentle reminder, the last date for filling the work-group nomination form
is March 28th, please fill the form before the deadline.

Regards
Chirag

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:52 PM Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy <
ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> This mail is regarding workgroup formation for the various teams required
> for PyCon India 2018.  Before we begin, I would like to state the below to
> avoid any confusion.
>
> *Workgroup* - Core group of people responsible for the execution of tasks
> mandated for a given team.  The workgroup is also responsible for setting
> guidelines on the team's working. As a community, we can come to a
> consensus about people involved in a workgroup. Typically, we could have
> 4-6 people per workgroup. It would also be great to have representation
> from various active Python communities so that the conference works as a
> comprehensive effort by everybody.
>
> *Volunteers* - The workgroup along with the volunteers execute the
> various tasks in the shape and form as agreed within the workgroup.
> Ideally, anybody and everybody who want to contribute to the given team can
> sign up as volunteers.  Please note, a call for volunteers will follow once
> workgroups are created.
>
> *Local Moderators (HydPy in case of 2018)* - Responsible for moderating
> the workgroup and coordinating things within the team.  They are also the
> Point Of Contact for the conference chair for the given team.
>
> *Conference Chair* - In case of any conflicts within the group (and the
> moderator is unable to resolve), Conference chair will take the final
> decision.
>
> At this point, we need workgroups to be formed for the following teams.  I
> have also mentioned the names of the HydPy Moderators for each of the teams.
>
> 1. *Website/Design* - Chirag Choudary/Ananyo Maiti
> 2. *CFP/Sessions* - Ramanathan R/Divya
> 3. *Sponsorship* - Chirag Choudhary/Kanchan
> 4. *Social Media* - Sanchit Balchandani
>
> *Conference Chair* - Manivannan Elangovan
>
>
> Local logistics will not need workgroup from outside of HydPy.  Finance
> (coordination with PSSI) will be dealt directly by the conference chair +
> HydPy moderators.  FTR, HydPy moderators for Finance team will be *Gokul
> Vasan/Renu*.
>
> I request the community to come forward and nominate yourself for being
> part of a workgroup.  Please fill the google form (
> https://goo.gl/forms/gUjqKPKi8Imhtjgn1) to nominate yourself.  The
> nomination process would be closed by *March 28th*. Please note, this is
> *not* a call for volunteers, and hence it would be great to have people
> with some experience in respective/similar workgroups.
>
> Request nobody to get offended as we are asking for prior experience.
> Given that this is the first time we are trying out the workgroup model it
> would be great if people with expertise come forward and set the process so
> that the baton could be passed on to anybody interested from next year.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ram.
>
>
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Mon Mar 26 13:29:03 2018
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:59:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India | Workgroup Formation
In-Reply-To: <CACS8Zr98tpmkRuoJB76Ge0znFMPHpymxGP1FXFR0_pFY2Dx3AA@mail.gmail.com>
 (Chirag Choudhary's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:24:31 +0000")
References: <CAL+bSMUmXPWYnxcWW1bbno+tnAMgXh4q970_wi7vSMQgcMyUdg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACS8Zr98tpmkRuoJB76Ge0znFMPHpymxGP1FXFR0_pFY2Dx3AA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87r2o6kaow.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Hi Chirag,
   It's likely, given past experience, that fresh volunteers will work
better if directly instructed. I think if you or someone else crawls
through the list looking for people who emailed saying that they
want to volunteer and then ask them directly to add their names, it
would give you more results. 

   As for the areas which require more experience, I think separate
targeted emails will work better than general announcements. 

Thanks.

On Mon, Mar 26 2018, Chirag Choudhary wrote:

> Hi all
>
> A gentle reminder, the last date for filling the work-group nomination form
> is March 28th, please fill the form before the deadline.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From sree at mahiti.org  Wed Mar 28 07:00:31 2018
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajQ7qW45hvcGZB-MAJtT-9zgifn9ZuoFi-1mJibcS-6_Pw@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 22-Mar-2018, at 7:31 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org <mailto:sree at mahiti.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2018 10:15 PM, "Noufal Ibrahim KV" <noufal at nibrahim.net.in <mailto:noufal at nibrahim.net.in>> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21 2018, vijay kumar wrote:
> 
> > I got call from BIEC  POC on next payment and other details.
> >
> > Since Hyderabad group are planning to conduct PyCon India this year, I will
> > request BIEC to cancel our booking.
> >
> > Note: We have to confirm BIEC  from our side by tomorrow morning 11 AM .
> > In case i don't hear back , I will go ahead and request him to proceed with
> > cancellation.
> 
> Makes sense to me. Sree. Any comments?
> 
> We need the estimation letter given by them and receipt for payment received as advance. 
> We should request for refund.
> 
> Sree,
> I have introduced you to BIEC POC over email already. 
> Please go ahead and do the needful.


Vijay,
I am not getting any response to email. Can you share his mobile/ land line details through SMS with me?
Regards,
Sree
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From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 14:02:58 2018
From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 23:32:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India - Hyderabad
Message-ID: <CAPTR+qJqWCWVfjs_5OUfFZCBWy2PS7+GWW3QBKHObgUBQCykog@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
        Please find the final schedule & plan for Pycon India 2018.

*Dates*: 5th - 9th Oct, 2018
*Venue*: HICC, Novotel Hyderabad.

Event format, Workgroup & Finance details are mentioned in the document. We
are in procees of updating the website & starting the ticketing process as
well.  Link
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVaMoug/edit?usp=sharing>

Let me know your thoughts.

Regards,
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From ramanathanhari at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 14:43:13 2018
From: ramanathanhari at gmail.com (Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 00:13:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 | Suggestions for Keynote speakers
Message-ID: <CAL+bSMUA3qWHg1Rbj-_8vXRv9G2cHBATjXYENOS+vAxhGJ=SJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

As most of you would aware,  PyCon India is happening in Hyderabad on
October 5-9, 2018   We have one confirmed keynote speaker (Travis Oliphant)
who we had invited as part of planning for PyCon Hyderabad.  We reached out
to him about the change in plans, and he has confirmed his availability for
PyCon India 2018.

On the other hand, Nick Coughlan has backed due to some personal reasons.
As part of the event, we intend to have four Keynote speakers which means
we need to identify three more keynote speakers.

We request the community to provide suggestions for Keynote speakers.
Based on popular ask, we can reach out to the speakers requesting them to
Keynote.

Thanks,
Ramanathan.
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From anandology at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 15:15:38 2018
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 00:45:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 | Suggestions for Keynote speakers
In-Reply-To: <CAL+bSMUA3qWHg1Rbj-_8vXRv9G2cHBATjXYENOS+vAxhGJ=SJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+bSMUA3qWHg1Rbj-_8vXRv9G2cHBATjXYENOS+vAxhGJ=SJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFwuVq_6h=X-OrVyKutiOx8oZL9v9wNT10wwrNCG=EuebQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy <
ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> As most of you would aware,  PyCon India is happening in Hyderabad on
> October 5-9, 2018   We have one confirmed keynote speaker (Travis Oliphant)
> who we had invited as part of planning for PyCon Hyderabad.  We reached out
> to him about the change in plans, and he has confirmed his availability for
> PyCon India 2018.
>
> On the other hand, Nick Coughlan has backed due to some personal reasons.
> As part of the event, we intend to have four Keynote speakers which means
> we need to identify three more keynote speakers.
>
> We request the community to provide suggestions for Keynote speakers.
> Based on popular ask, we can reach out to the speakers requesting them to
> Keynote.
>

I've two suggestions, both of them are from India.

1. Sidu Ponnappa

He is not a Pythonista. Hardcore Ruby developer, organizer of RubyConf for
many years. Above all this, I believe he is very wise and experienced
developer and community builder. Those of you who were active in the
Bangalore dev circles would surely bumped into him. I believe he can bring
a rich perspective from the other size of the table.

Here is recent wise tweet from him that I really liked.
https://twitter.com/ponnappa/status/970694779150393344

2. Rushabh Mehta

Rushabh is the founder of ERPNext, an open-source ERP software used by many
people and businesses across the world. IMHO, ERPNext is the only product
business of that scale and impact built completely in India. Oh, I forgot
to say it is completely written in Python.

Rushabh is also a great community builder too. ERPNext has contributors
across the globe and the ERPNext developer conferences are run in India and
Europe.

Anand
twitter.com/ponnappa/status/970694779150393344
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From deven.patel2 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 31 15:38:51 2018
From: deven.patel2 at gmail.com (patel deven)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 01:08:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2018 | Suggestions for Keynote speakers
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFwuVq_6h=X-OrVyKutiOx8oZL9v9wNT10wwrNCG=EuebQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+bSMUA3qWHg1Rbj-_8vXRv9G2cHBATjXYENOS+vAxhGJ=SJQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFwuVq_6h=X-OrVyKutiOx8oZL9v9wNT10wwrNCG=EuebQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGgvUWDD1CyXAafcq8e2Xb1ue3qJVa17Kd_LmUBg4YNKo6rhYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I joined this group after reading the FAQ about PyCon Bengaluru from
Aug22. I would like to attend the conference (Bengaluru), but have no
clue as to what to expect and how I can  contribute. If there is a
registration process, it would be great if someone could throw some
light on it, as no information regarding this is listed on the FAQ
page.

regards,
D.Patel


On 1 April 2018 at 00:45, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy
> <ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As most of you would aware,  PyCon India is happening in Hyderabad on
>> October 5-9, 2018   We have one confirmed keynote speaker (Travis Oliphant)
>> who we had invited as part of planning for PyCon Hyderabad.  We reached out
>> to him about the change in plans, and he has confirmed his availability for
>> PyCon India 2018.
>>
>> On the other hand, Nick Coughlan has backed due to some personal reasons.
>> As part of the event, we intend to have four Keynote speakers which means we
>> need to identify three more keynote speakers.
>>
>> We request the community to provide suggestions for Keynote speakers.
>> Based on popular ask, we can reach out to the speakers requesting them to
>> Keynote.
>
>
> I've two suggestions, both of them are from India.
>
> 1. Sidu Ponnappa
>
> He is not a Pythonista. Hardcore Ruby developer, organizer of RubyConf for
> many years. Above all this, I believe he is very wise and experienced
> developer and community builder. Those of you who were active in the
> Bangalore dev circles would surely bumped into him. I believe he can bring a
> rich perspective from the other size of the table.
>
> Here is recent wise tweet from him that I really liked.
> https://twitter.com/ponnappa/status/970694779150393344
>
> 2. Rushabh Mehta
>
> Rushabh is the founder of ERPNext, an open-source ERP software used by many
> people and businesses across the world. IMHO, ERPNext is the only product
> business of that scale and impact built completely in India. Oh, I forgot to
> say it is completely written in Python.
>
> Rushabh is also a great community builder too. ERPNext has contributors
> across the globe and the ERPNext developer conferences are run in India and
> Europe.
>
> Anand
> twitter.com/ponnappa/status/970694779150393344
>
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