From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 11:57:46 2018 From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:27:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance Message-ID: Hi All, I wanted to give an update on finance management of Pycon India 2018. We were torn between forming a new organization vs using an existing organization for finance management. After a lot of thought and deliberation with different people within the community, we have chosen to form a new organization to manage finance for current Pycon & future as well. As part of creating the new organization, we have taken over "Section 8 non-profit Company" - "Association For Promotion Of Free Open Source Technologies" AFROST. This company doesn't have any liability or any transactions and the members were happy to transfer it. Decision to take over this entity was primarily based on time constraint b\c opening new entity would take some time. To know more about Section 8 Company - https://www.legalraasta.com/blog/need-know-section-8-company/ For this new entity, we are nominating 5 new interim Directors given below. - Ramanathan [Hyderabad] - Satyaakam [Delhi] - Chandan [Pune] - Vijay [Chennai] - Noufal [Kochi] We are forming working committee for formulating the direction & charter of this new organization. This committee will propose it's delibration & outcome to the community at the end of Pycon India conference and will be dissolved after the conference. Members of the committee are below. - All Interim Directors - Mani [Hyderabad] - Akshay Aradhya [Delhi] - Yet to Confirm [Bangalore] Responsibility of Interim Directors: - Manage funds of Pycon India 2018. - Present the recommendation by ?Working Committee? in AGM. AGM will be conducted at the end of Pycon conference day. - Implement the final resolution passed at AGM. - Conduct election for new directors. Responsibility of Working committee: - Update the existing ?Memorandum of Association (MOA)?, ?Articles of Association (AOA)? and come up with new name. - Come up with Bylaws & Rules for adding members & term for Directors, and operations. - Come up with rules/process for Director election. I believe this new organization is the step in right direction for Python community in India. This organization should be based on trust, commitment, mutual respect for people & be social responsible. Note: Member of interim director & working committee are chosen on two factors. One based on representation from different communities and another based on experience in creating & managing organizations. Regards, __Mani Chair at PyconIndia2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Jul 4 14:04:31 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 23:34:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (E. Manivannan's message of "Wed, 4 Jul 2018 21:27:46 +0530") References: Message-ID: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Hi Mani, I have some reservations about this but given the situation, it's the best way forward. To avoid the mistakes with IPSS and PSSI, I think it's prudent to keep the charter of this new organisation as small as possible to limit the damage it can do. All of the PSSIs goals were noble (support multiple conferences, stipend for sending people for conferences abroad, etc) but I think the effort needed to keep all this under control was under estimated and that led to many ad-hoc decisions and the overall organisation unwavering. Also, I think the AGM on the last day of the conference at the end of the event will probably not work. We'll rush through it and it'll just be a "everything fine!" meeting. We should put it somewhere earlier when people have more energy or maybe in the evening of the first day. Finally, I'm in Kozhikode and not Kochi. :) Thanks. On Wed, Jul 04 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to give an update on finance management of Pycon India 2018. > > We were torn between forming a new organization vs using an existing > organization for finance management. After a lot of thought and > deliberation with different people within the community, we have chosen to > form a new organization to manage finance for current Pycon & future as > well. > > As part of creating the new organization, we have taken over "Section 8 > non-profit Company" - "Association For Promotion Of Free Open Source > Technologies" AFROST. This company doesn't have any liability or any > transactions and the members were happy to transfer it. Decision to take > over this entity was primarily based on time constraint b\c opening new > entity would take some time. > > To know more about Section 8 Company - > https://www.legalraasta.com/blog/need-know-section-8-company/ > > For this new entity, we are nominating 5 new interim Directors given below. > > - > > Ramanathan [Hyderabad] > - > > Satyaakam [Delhi] > - > > Chandan [Pune] > - > > Vijay [Chennai] > - > > Noufal [Kochi] > > > We are forming working committee for formulating the direction & charter of > this new organization. This committee will propose it's delibration & > outcome to the community at the end of Pycon India conference and will be > dissolved after the conference. Members of the committee are below. > > - > > All Interim Directors > - > > Mani [Hyderabad] > - > > Akshay Aradhya [Delhi] > - > > Yet to Confirm [Bangalore] > > > Responsibility of Interim Directors: > > - > > Manage funds of Pycon India 2018. > > > - > > Present the recommendation by ?Working Committee? in AGM. AGM will be > conducted at the end of Pycon conference day. > - > > Implement the final resolution passed at AGM. > - > > Conduct election for new directors. > > > Responsibility of Working committee: > > - > > Update the existing ?Memorandum of Association (MOA)?, ?Articles of > Association (AOA)? and come up with new name. > - > > Come up with Bylaws & Rules for adding members & term for Directors, and > operations. > - > > Come up with rules/process for Director election. > > > I believe this new organization is the step in right direction for Python > community in India. This organization should be based on trust, commitment, > mutual respect for people & be social responsible. > > Note: Member of interim director & working committee are chosen on two > factors. One based on representation from different communities and another > based on experience in creating & managing organizations. > > > Regards, > > __Mani > > Chair at PyconIndia2018 > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From akshayaurora at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 09:44:44 2018 From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 19:14:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: *TLDR;* *1) form a new organization to avoid issues with existing ones* *2) Let's get payments directly from sponsors to vendors solving immediate issue with PyCon 2018* *3) Let's work on making a organization with a good structure right now instead of later.* *4) Let's involve the community in this whole process.* *That's the gist of what is below.* I would like to shed some light on the situation AFROST is in. Vipin & I, were among the directors(we helped form the org) of the company when it started out, the main goal at the time was to support open source communities. However as time went by it became clear that; that was not really the case, AFROST has as yet not done anything to support any community in any manner what so ever(look at the accounts they are "clean" even after more than a year). This is despite numerous opportunities for the same and despite me and Vipin explicitly asking for such support. The org was more interested in applying for grants, activities that would be financially positive. Needless to say both Vipin & I resigned about 2 months back. Existing liabilities: There are MOU and MOA with IODA and AFROST which were done while filing for some international grants, that have some responsibilities on AFROST to take over certain tasks under those MOU/MOA. There are legal proceedings between IODA and The Organizers of Global Blockchain Conference that does involve AFROST due to it's close ties and collaboration with IODA and the fact that some of the Global Blockchain Conference organizers were also part of AFROST at the time. *Form a new Organization! It would be better in the long run.* *Urgent Issues:* PSSI get's dissolved and does not renew beyond 7th July, so:: *1) It needs to transfer existing money to some one who can help with PyCon India 2018* - Option 1: PSSI can pay existing money they have directly to vendors for this year which solves the urgency issue. Cons: Involves a little bit more legwork trouble. Pros: This has worked for PyCon in the past - Option 2: PSSI can transfer money to a existing Org Cons: Existing liabilities and structure of org could come bite us. Pros: It's faster and given current urgency maybe the best solution given the timeframe. *2) We need a organization that can raise invoices for sponsors to support PyConIndia 2018* - Option 1: Form a new non profit organization: Cons: This could take a bit of time Pros: Offers a `Clean Slate` where we know there would be no issues. - Option 2: Get Vendors for PyCon India to raise invoices directly to the sponsors. Cons: Difficult to coordinate but still doable. Pros: This has historically worked out quite nicely for PyCon India. My Suggestion would be to take the option of getting the Sponsors and PSSI to directly pay to vendors. This solves all the urgent issues and allows the rest of the community to work on making a formal organization properly without effecting PyCon India 2018 . On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > > Hi Mani, > I have some reservations about this but given the situation, it's the > best way forward. > We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug for the sake of, "Current Situation". It would be hard but let's do this, "Right" now. So we don't have such situations later on. > To avoid the mistakes with IPSS and PSSI, I think it's prudent to > keep the charter of this new organization as small as possible to limit > the damage it can do. Maybe the organization was not structured properly or tasks outgrew the org. It would be better to spend some time and structure the new organization so it's better than before. > All of the PSSIs goals were noble (support > multiple conferences, stipend for sending people for conferences abroad, > etc) but I think the effort needed to keep all this under control was > under estimated and that led to many ad-hoc decisions and the overall > organisation unwavering. > Let's outline the goals and outline them publicly, list out the tasks and what it would take to manage them. Many people here are experienced product designers. Let's put our heads together and do this correctly. 1. let's outline the procedure as it was before, including task lists and their flows. This would have to be done by those who were part of the organization till now. 2. Identify issues with the current system. This would have to be a open survey as the organizers definitely do not know all the failings. 3. Figure out what parts can be automated so it does not fall on a few to do all the tasks You would be surprised by all the tasks that can be automated and the number of people available to help out. Many open organizations are moving to truly open everything being automated and put up for public consumption through blockchain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_autonomous_organization I will start a new thread for the organizational part if people are interested in that. Regards Akkshay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 11:30:13 2018 From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 21:00:13 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Hi Akkshay, I wanted to address a few points raised by you. 1) About forming a new entity? Yes. we wanted to form new entity however timeline to get it up & running would take too long and we are short of time. 2) About liability of AFROST entity? AFROST entity has no transaction and no liability. MOU signed is not an issue as it's agreement/understanding of possible engagement and doesn't have any legal binding to execute - anyway we will get it annulled. Lastly, I would prefer to make decision based on logic instead of emotion and would recommend what this organization did do or didn't do in your time keep it out of context. 3) Transfer money from PSSI? I have dropped a note regarding this especially on money received via tickets sales. They are working on it b\c it has GST implications. 4) Asking sponsors to pay directly to vendors? This is not viable option b\c of GST implications and sponsors are no longer interested in this mode. This is also another reason for need of an organization? 5) About other suggestions on structure & how organisations should functions? Working committee & Directors will consider your suggestion and will come up appropriate decisions. Regards, Mani On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:14 PM qua non wrote: > *TLDR;* > *1) form a new organization to avoid issues with existing ones* > *2) Let's get payments directly from sponsors to vendors solving immediate > issue with PyCon 2018* > *3) Let's work on making a organization with a good structure right now > instead of later.* > *4) Let's involve the community in this whole process.* > > *That's the gist of what is below.* > > I would like to shed some light on the situation AFROST is in. > > Vipin & I, were among the directors(we helped form the org) of the company > when it started out, the main goal at the time was to support open source > communities. > > However as time went by it became clear that; that was not really the > case, AFROST has as yet not done anything to support any community in any > manner what so ever(look at the accounts they are "clean" even after more > than a year). This is despite numerous opportunities for the same and > despite me and Vipin explicitly asking for such support. The org was more > interested in applying for grants, activities that would be financially > positive. > > Needless to say both Vipin & I resigned about 2 months back. > > Existing liabilities: > There are MOU and MOA with IODA and AFROST which were done while filing > for some international grants, that have some responsibilities on AFROST to > take over certain tasks under those MOU/MOA. > > There are legal proceedings between IODA and The Organizers of Global > Blockchain Conference that does involve AFROST due to it's close ties and > collaboration with IODA and the fact that some of the Global Blockchain > Conference organizers were also part of AFROST at the time. > > *Form a new Organization! It would be better in the long run.* > > *Urgent Issues:* > > PSSI get's dissolved and does not renew beyond 7th July, so:: > > *1) It needs to transfer existing money to some one who can help with > PyCon India 2018* > > - Option 1: PSSI can pay existing money they have directly to vendors > for this year which solves the urgency issue. > Cons: Involves a little bit more legwork trouble. > Pros: This has worked for PyCon in the past > - Option 2: PSSI can transfer money to a existing Org > Cons: Existing liabilities and structure of org could come bite us. > Pros: It's faster and given current urgency maybe the best solution > given the timeframe. > > *2) We need a organization that can raise invoices for sponsors to support > PyConIndia 2018* > > - Option 1: Form a new non profit organization: > Cons: This could take a bit of time > Pros: Offers a `Clean Slate` where we know there would be no issues. > - Option 2: Get Vendors for PyCon India to raise invoices directly to > the sponsors. > Cons: Difficult to coordinate but still doable. > Pros: This has historically worked out quite nicely for PyCon India. > > My Suggestion would be to take the option of getting the Sponsors and PSSI > to directly pay to vendors. > This solves all the urgent issues and allows the rest of the community to > work on making a formal organization properly without effecting PyCon India > 2018 . > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Noufal Ibrahim KV > wrote: > >> >> Hi Mani, >> I have some reservations about this but given the situation, it's the >> best way forward. >> > > We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug for the sake of, "Current > Situation". > It would be hard but let's do this, "Right" now. So we don't have such > situations later on. > > >> To avoid the mistakes with IPSS and PSSI, I think it's prudent to >> keep the charter of this new organization as small as possible to limit >> the damage it can do. > > > Maybe the organization was not structured properly or tasks outgrew the > org. > It would be better to spend some time and structure the new organization > so it's better than before. > > > >> All of the PSSIs goals were noble (support >> multiple conferences, stipend for sending people for conferences abroad, >> etc) but I think the effort needed to keep all this under control was >> under estimated and that led to many ad-hoc decisions and the overall >> organisation unwavering. >> > > Let's outline the goals and outline them publicly, list out the tasks and > what it would take to manage them. > Many people here are experienced product designers. > > Let's put our heads together and do this correctly. > > 1. let's outline the procedure as it was before, including task lists and > their flows. > This would have to be done by those who were part of the organization > till now. > > 2. Identify issues with the current system. > This would have to be a open survey as the organizers definitely do > not know all the failings. > > 3. Figure out what parts can be automated so it does not fall on a few to > do all the tasks > You would be surprised by all the tasks that can be automated and the > number of people available to help out. > Many open organizations are moving to truly open everything being > automated and put up for public consumption through blockchain > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_autonomous_organization > > I will start a new thread for the organizational part if people are > interested in that. > > Regards > Akkshay > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Fri Jul 6 13:56:46 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:26:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (E. Manivannan's message of "Fri, 6 Jul 2018 21:00:13 +0530") References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> I have another suggestion. Can we ask for help from another non-profit that helps with events and conferences? Just for this year? On Fri, Jul 06 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > Hi Akkshay, > I wanted to address a few points raised by you. > > 1) About forming a new entity? > Yes. we wanted to form new entity however timeline to get it up & > running would take too long and we are short of time. > > 2) About liability of AFROST entity? > AFROST entity has no transaction and no liability. MOU signed is not > an issue as it's agreement/understanding of possible engagement and doesn't > have any legal binding to execute - anyway we will get it annulled. Lastly, > I would prefer to make decision based on logic instead of emotion and would > recommend what this organization did do or didn't do in your time keep it > out of context. > > 3) Transfer money from PSSI? > I have dropped a note regarding this especially on money received via > tickets sales. They are working on it b\c it has GST implications. > > 4) Asking sponsors to pay directly to vendors? > This is not viable option b\c of GST implications and sponsors are no > longer interested in this mode. This is also another reason for need of an > organization? > > 5) About other suggestions on structure & how organisations should > functions? > Working committee & Directors will consider your suggestion and will > come up appropriate decisions. > > > Regards, > Mani > > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:14 PM qua non wrote: > >> *TLDR;* >> *1) form a new organization to avoid issues with existing ones* >> *2) Let's get payments directly from sponsors to vendors solving immediate >> issue with PyCon 2018* >> *3) Let's work on making a organization with a good structure right now >> instead of later.* >> *4) Let's involve the community in this whole process.* >> >> *That's the gist of what is below.* >> >> I would like to shed some light on the situation AFROST is in. >> >> Vipin & I, were among the directors(we helped form the org) of the company >> when it started out, the main goal at the time was to support open source >> communities. >> >> However as time went by it became clear that; that was not really the >> case, AFROST has as yet not done anything to support any community in any >> manner what so ever(look at the accounts they are "clean" even after more >> than a year). This is despite numerous opportunities for the same and >> despite me and Vipin explicitly asking for such support. The org was more >> interested in applying for grants, activities that would be financially >> positive. >> >> Needless to say both Vipin & I resigned about 2 months back. >> >> Existing liabilities: >> There are MOU and MOA with IODA and AFROST which were done while filing >> for some international grants, that have some responsibilities on AFROST to >> take over certain tasks under those MOU/MOA. >> >> There are legal proceedings between IODA and The Organizers of Global >> Blockchain Conference that does involve AFROST due to it's close ties and >> collaboration with IODA and the fact that some of the Global Blockchain >> Conference organizers were also part of AFROST at the time. >> >> *Form a new Organization! It would be better in the long run.* >> >> *Urgent Issues:* >> >> PSSI get's dissolved and does not renew beyond 7th July, so:: >> >> *1) It needs to transfer existing money to some one who can help with >> PyCon India 2018* >> >> - Option 1: PSSI can pay existing money they have directly to vendors >> for this year which solves the urgency issue. >> Cons: Involves a little bit more legwork trouble. >> Pros: This has worked for PyCon in the past >> - Option 2: PSSI can transfer money to a existing Org >> Cons: Existing liabilities and structure of org could come bite us. >> Pros: It's faster and given current urgency maybe the best solution >> given the timeframe. >> >> *2) We need a organization that can raise invoices for sponsors to support >> PyConIndia 2018* >> >> - Option 1: Form a new non profit organization: >> Cons: This could take a bit of time >> Pros: Offers a `Clean Slate` where we know there would be no issues. >> - Option 2: Get Vendors for PyCon India to raise invoices directly to >> the sponsors. >> Cons: Difficult to coordinate but still doable. >> Pros: This has historically worked out quite nicely for PyCon India. >> >> My Suggestion would be to take the option of getting the Sponsors and PSSI >> to directly pay to vendors. >> This solves all the urgent issues and allows the rest of the community to >> work on making a formal organization properly without effecting PyCon India >> 2018 . >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Noufal Ibrahim KV >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Mani, >>> I have some reservations about this but given the situation, it's the >>> best way forward. >>> >> >> We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug for the sake of, "Current >> Situation". >> It would be hard but let's do this, "Right" now. So we don't have such >> situations later on. >> >> >>> To avoid the mistakes with IPSS and PSSI, I think it's prudent to >>> keep the charter of this new organization as small as possible to limit >>> the damage it can do. >> >> >> Maybe the organization was not structured properly or tasks outgrew the >> org. >> It would be better to spend some time and structure the new organization >> so it's better than before. >> >> >> >>> All of the PSSIs goals were noble (support >>> multiple conferences, stipend for sending people for conferences abroad, >>> etc) but I think the effort needed to keep all this under control was >>> under estimated and that led to many ad-hoc decisions and the overall >>> organisation unwavering. >>> >> >> Let's outline the goals and outline them publicly, list out the tasks and >> what it would take to manage them. >> Many people here are experienced product designers. >> >> Let's put our heads together and do this correctly. >> >> 1. let's outline the procedure as it was before, including task lists and >> their flows. >> This would have to be done by those who were part of the organization >> till now. >> >> 2. Identify issues with the current system. >> This would have to be a open survey as the organizers definitely do >> not know all the failings. >> >> 3. Figure out what parts can be automated so it does not fall on a few to >> do all the tasks >> You would be surprised by all the tasks that can be automated and the >> number of people available to help out. >> Many open organizations are moving to truly open everything being >> automated and put up for public consumption through blockchain >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_autonomous_organization >> >> I will start a new thread for the organizational part if people are >> interested in that. >> >> Regards >> Akkshay >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 00:19:42 2018 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 09:49:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > > I have another suggestion. Can we ask for help from another non-profit > that helps with events and conferences? Just for this year? > +1 Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akshayaurora at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 10:26:25 2018 From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 19:56:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Hi, This situation kind of prevents me from being part of PyCon India as I have ongoing legal proceeding against IODA and AFROST as part of the organizing team of the Global Blockchain Conference. This would lead to conflict of interest. Please remove me from any and all roles under PyCon India. 5) About other suggestions on structure & how organizations should > functions? > "*Working committee & Directors will consider your suggestion and > will come up appropriate decisions.*" > Best of luck, hope you have a great PyCon India 2018. Regards Akkshay > > Regards, > Mani > > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:14 PM qua non wrote: > >> *TLDR;* >> *1) form a new organization to avoid issues with existing ones* >> *2) Let's get payments directly from sponsors to vendors solving >> immediate issue with PyCon 2018* >> *3) Let's work on making a organization with a good structure right now >> instead of later.* >> *4) Let's involve the community in this whole process.* >> >> *That's the gist of what is below.* >> >> I would like to shed some light on the situation AFROST is in. >> >> Vipin & I, were among the directors(we helped form the org) of the >> company when it started out, the main goal at the time was to support open >> source communities. >> >> However as time went by it became clear that; that was not really the >> case, AFROST has as yet not done anything to support any community in any >> manner what so ever(look at the accounts they are "clean" even after more >> than a year). This is despite numerous opportunities for the same and >> despite me and Vipin explicitly asking for such support. The org was more >> interested in applying for grants, activities that would be financially >> positive. >> >> Needless to say both Vipin & I resigned about 2 months back. >> >> Existing liabilities: >> There are MOU and MOA with IODA and AFROST which were done while filing >> for some international grants, that have some responsibilities on AFROST to >> take over certain tasks under those MOU/MOA. >> >> There are legal proceedings between IODA and The Organizers of Global >> Blockchain Conference that does involve AFROST due to it's close ties and >> collaboration with IODA and the fact that some of the Global Blockchain >> Conference organizers were also part of AFROST at the time. >> >> *Form a new Organization! It would be better in the long run.* >> >> *Urgent Issues:* >> >> PSSI get's dissolved and does not renew beyond 7th July, so:: >> >> *1) It needs to transfer existing money to some one who can help with >> PyCon India 2018* >> >> - Option 1: PSSI can pay existing money they have directly to vendors >> for this year which solves the urgency issue. >> Cons: Involves a little bit more legwork trouble. >> Pros: This has worked for PyCon in the past >> - Option 2: PSSI can transfer money to a existing Org >> Cons: Existing liabilities and structure of org could come bite us. >> Pros: It's faster and given current urgency maybe the best solution >> given the timeframe. >> >> *2) We need a organization that can raise invoices for sponsors to >> support PyConIndia 2018* >> >> - Option 1: Form a new non profit organization: >> Cons: This could take a bit of time >> Pros: Offers a `Clean Slate` where we know there would be no issues. >> - Option 2: Get Vendors for PyCon India to raise invoices directly to >> the sponsors. >> Cons: Difficult to coordinate but still doable. >> Pros: This has historically worked out quite nicely for PyCon India. >> >> My Suggestion would be to take the option of getting the Sponsors and >> PSSI to directly pay to vendors. >> This solves all the urgent issues and allows the rest of the community to >> work on making a formal organization properly without effecting PyCon India >> 2018 . >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Noufal Ibrahim KV >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Mani, >>> I have some reservations about this but given the situation, it's the >>> best way forward. >>> >> >> We have a habit of sweeping things under the rug for the sake of, >> "Current Situation". >> It would be hard but let's do this, "Right" now. So we don't have such >> situations later on. >> >> >>> To avoid the mistakes with IPSS and PSSI, I think it's prudent to >>> keep the charter of this new organization as small as possible to limit >>> the damage it can do. >> >> >> Maybe the organization was not structured properly or tasks outgrew the >> org. >> It would be better to spend some time and structure the new organization >> so it's better than before. >> >> >> >>> All of the PSSIs goals were noble (support >>> multiple conferences, stipend for sending people for conferences abroad, >>> etc) but I think the effort needed to keep all this under control was >>> under estimated and that led to many ad-hoc decisions and the overall >>> organisation unwavering. >>> >> >> Let's outline the goals and outline them publicly, list out the tasks >> and what it would take to manage them. >> Many people here are experienced product designers. >> >> Let's put our heads together and do this correctly. >> >> 1. let's outline the procedure as it was before, including task lists and >> their flows. >> This would have to be done by those who were part of the organization >> till now. >> >> 2. Identify issues with the current system. >> This would have to be a open survey as the organizers definitely do >> not know all the failings. >> >> 3. Figure out what parts can be automated so it does not fall on a few to >> do all the tasks >> You would be surprised by all the tasks that can be automated and the >> number of people available to help out. >> Many open organizations are moving to truly open everything being >> automated and put up for public consumption through blockchain >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_autonomous_organization >> >> I will start a new thread for the organizational part if people are >> interested in that. >> >> Regards >> Akkshay >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Jul 10 14:55:10 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:25:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (satyakam goswami's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:07:32 +0530") References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <877em2vs35.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Wed, Jul 11 2018, satyakam goswami wrote: [...] > ?Please Can you share all the legal particulars you are referring to > [...] That's not particularly relevant to this list. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Jul 10 14:55:37 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:25:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Sat, 7 Jul 2018 09:49:42 +0530") References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Mani, On Sat, Jul 07 2018, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV > wrote: > >> >> I have another suggestion. Can we ask for help from another non-profit >> that helps with events and conferences? Just for this year? >> > > +1 [...] What do you think? -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 00:26:37 2018 From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:56:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Hi Guys, Suggestion & recent revalation are taking us in tangential direction and for last couple of days, I have been trying to work out alternative. I think it's wise to address the short-term need i.e. temporarly go with an organisation only for Pycon India 2018 and later we form the new the organization which can act as finance manager for Pycon India. Now for current Pycon India 2018, I haven't made up my mind on which will be the organisation going to help us to manage fund. Please find the options and challenges. - AFROST - Book are clean & no transaction. However there is a threat of liability - which no one is explaining and I'm not sure whether the threat itself is legitimate or not. - Other Organization - We spoke to couple of organization and they are willing to do it however they want to charges anywhere from 5-10% which would cost us 2-6Lacs - New Organization - Time taken to form a new organization. Exploring all options & still discussing at this point in time. I hope to have clear direction before end of this week. Regards, Mani On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:18 AM Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > > Mani, > > On Sat, Jul 07 2018, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV < > noufal at nibrahim.net.in> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> I have another suggestion. Can we ask for help from another non-profit > >> that helps with events and conferences? Just for this year? > >> > > > > +1 > > [...] > > > What do you think? > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Jul 11 13:17:10 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:47:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (E. Manivannan's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:56:37 +0530") References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Wed, Jul 11 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > Hi Guys, > Suggestion & recent revalation are taking us in tangential > direction and for last couple of days, I have been trying to work out > alternative. > > I think it's wise to address the short-term need i.e. temporarly go > with an organisation only for Pycon India 2018 and later we form the > new the organization which can act as finance manager for Pycon India. One thing that comes to mind is the org which was created to handle RubyConf (Innovation and Technology Trust) although I don't know if it's a non profit or something that can help us. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 13:15:26 2018 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:45:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:39 PM Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > Suggestion & recent revalation are taking us in tangential > > direction and for last couple of days, I have been trying to work out > > alternative. > > > > I think it's wise to address the short-term need i.e. temporarly go > > with an organisation only for Pycon India 2018 and later we form the > > new the organization which can act as finance manager for Pycon India. > > > One thing that comes to mind is the org which was created to handle > RubyConf (Innovation and Technology Trust) although I don't know if it's > a non profit or something that can help us. > It is Emerging Technology Trust. I've already pinged Sidu about it. They are more than happy to help, but the only catch is they are not tax deductible yet (that is what he told me). I'm not sure what that really means, but I think it is worth following up and see if that is a viable option. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ananyoevo at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 01:18:42 2018 From: ananyoevo at gmail.com (Ananyo Maiti) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:48:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Active Maintainer of Junction Message-ID: Hi all, Since the Review process of Proposals has already started we need to address the issues that come up on junction, I am currently working on the open issues required for review process. May I know who is/are the active maintainers of junction so that they can review my PRs and give directions on the issues. Thanks, Ananyo Website Team, PyCon India 2018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Thu Jul 19 02:59:41 2018 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:29:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP and talk evaluation Message-ID: <5e631a75-123c-067f-7f84-c58747af9ae5@letterboxes.org> Hi, This time the response seems unprecedented - which while feels very good, also brings the challenge of reviewing the submissions. The number of submissions (335) is close to thrice that of PyCon India 2017 (120). Since I didn't see any post on the ML about talk proposals review, thought I will ask about this. Is there a plan in place for this yet ? -- Regards, --Anand ---------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org http://twitter.com/skeptichacker From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:32:48 2018 From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 22:02:48 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Hi Guys, After a lot delibration and discussion with folks. We have decided to use AFROST organization for managing finance management for Pycon India 2018. This organization will help us receiving all the sponsorship money, ticket sales, pay all our vendor & GST. Post the conference, once all the settlement is complete will publish the balance sheet for the conference. Finance Workgroup: Mani, Ram, Chirag & Satyakam and Sree (as advisor). Guidelines for Team: Professionally manage the fund - use Quickbook for raising invoice, pay vendor & GST. All payments are done via NEFT only - minimum Cash transaction preferably Zero cash transaction. For future Pycon, I leave it to community to regroup & decide on what's the direction to take for finance management. Any question reach out to me directly. let's close this thread here. Regards, Mani On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:45 PM Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:39 PM Noufal Ibrahim KV > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 11 2018, E Manivannan wrote: >> >> > Hi Guys, >> > Suggestion & recent revalation are taking us in tangential >> > direction and for last couple of days, I have been trying to work out >> > alternative. >> > >> > I think it's wise to address the short-term need i.e. temporarly go >> > with an organisation only for Pycon India 2018 and later we form the >> > new the organization which can act as finance manager for Pycon India. >> >> >> One thing that comes to mind is the org which was created to handle >> RubyConf (Innovation and Technology Trust) although I don't know if it's >> a non profit or something that can help us. >> > > It is Emerging Technology Trust. I've already pinged Sidu about it. They > are more than happy to help, but the only catch is they are not tax > deductible yet (that is what he told me). I'm not sure what that really > means, but I think it is worth following up and see if that is a viable > option. > > Anand > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 12:50:20 2018 From: elangovan.manivannan at gmail.com (E Manivannan) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 22:20:20 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: <8736wfrx0y.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <8736wfrx0y.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Future of PSSI and Pycon finance management - I'm not changing or proposing anything at the moment. I leave it to the community to come up with the plan. For 2018 - we are going with AFROST. Regards, __Mani On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:11 PM Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > After a lot delibration and discussion with folks. We have > decided > > to use AFROST organization for managing finance management for Pycon > India > > 2018. This organization will help us receiving all the sponsorship money, > > ticket sales, pay all our vendor & GST. Post the conference, once all the > > settlement is complete will publish the balance sheet for the conference. > > [...] > > Just to clarify, we're taking the help of AFROST for financial stuff > correct? We're not planning to change AFROST into a variant of PSSI for > the future. Are we? > > Thanks. > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can imagine how harrowing this must have been. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Jul 19 12:49:17 2018 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 22:19:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [Hydpy] Re: Pycon India 2018 Finance In-Reply-To: (E. Manivannan's message of "Thu, 19 Jul 2018 22:02:48 +0530") References: <877emayj0w.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87h8lcw8m9.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <871scavs2e.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87d0vtu1yh.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <8736wfrx0y.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Thu, Jul 19 2018, E Manivannan wrote: > Hi Guys, > After a lot delibration and discussion with folks. We have decided > to use AFROST organization for managing finance management for Pycon India > 2018. This organization will help us receiving all the sponsorship money, > ticket sales, pay all our vendor & GST. Post the conference, once all the > settlement is complete will publish the balance sheet for the conference. [...] Just to clarify, we're taking the help of AFROST for financial stuff correct? We're not planning to change AFROST into a variant of PSSI for the future. Are we? Thanks. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 02:43:35 2018 From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:13:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP and talk evaluation In-Reply-To: <5e631a75-123c-067f-7f84-c58747af9ae5@letterboxes.org> References: <5e631a75-123c-067f-7f84-c58747af9ae5@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: Hi Anand, On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 12:30 Anand B Pillai wrote: > Hi, > > This time the response seems unprecedented - which while feels very > good, also brings the challenge of reviewing the submissions. The number > of submissions (335) is close to thrice that of PyCon India 2017 (120). > > Since I didn't see any post on the ML about talk proposals review, > thought I will ask about this. 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But from past PyCon >> experience registrations start from 8 AM in the morning and Keynote session >> starts in between 9:30 to 10 AM in morning. >> >> *Note: Keynote session is scheduled for main conference days only that is >> 6 and 7th Oct. >> >> Thanks, >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Shalabh Aggarwal >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Do we have a tentative daily schedule for the conference days? >>> When time do the day start? The time for keynote sessions? >>> >>> I need to manage my flight bookings accordingly. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Shalabh Aggarwal >>> t: +91 9990960159 >>> w: www.shalabhaggarwal.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Rajat Saini >> LinkedIn | Github >> | Website >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Shalabh Aggarwal > t: +91 9990960159 > w: www.shalabhaggarwal.com > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've got the > mail with the dates as 6-7 October. > I am looking forward to attend workshops and developer sprint too . > Is there any seperate registration for the events or it is all inclusive !? > Please let me know , if there are further steps . > Thank you > Varun Singhal > +91-8884828341 > > > On Fri 22 Jun, 2018, 12:54 PM Shalabh Aggarwal, > wrote: > >> Thanks. >> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 8:53 AM Rajat Saini >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Shalabh, >>> >>> We don't have a tentative schedule for now. But from past PyCon >>> experience registrations start from 8 AM in the morning and Keynote session >>> starts in between 9:30 to 10 AM in morning. >>> >>> *Note: Keynote session is scheduled for main conference days only that >>> is 6 and 7th Oct. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Shalabh Aggarwal >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Do we have a tentative daily schedule for the conference days? >>>> When time do the day start? The time for keynote sessions? >>>> >>>> I need to manage my flight bookings accordingly. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Shalabh Aggarwal >>>> t: +91 9990960159 >>>> w: www.shalabhaggarwal.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Rajat Saini >>> LinkedIn | Github >>> | Website >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Shalabh Aggarwal >> t: +91 9990960159 >> w: www.shalabhaggarwal.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards, Rajat Saini LinkedIn | Github | Website -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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