[Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team

Mon Jan 15 14:09:08 EST 2018

My name is prateek Mishra I am from jaypee University persuing btech from
jaypee University guna I want to volunteer in social media team.

On Jan 16, 2018 12:36 AM, "chandan kumar" <chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Anand Chitipothu, Noufal Ibrahim, Anand Pillai, Bibhas and  the
> other members of the community,
>
> Sayan and I initially proposed to organize PyCon India's 10th anniversary
> in
> Bangalore [1]. During the initial planning phase, we had requested
> Bangpypers
> community to support [2]. We have done two face to face meetings in
> Bangalore
> and have had several hangout sessions. The minutes of the meetings were
> also
> posted to mailing lists.
>
> During the first face to face meeting at the Cafe Coffee Day near Forum
> Mall,
> Bangalore, we formed the team. We consulted Vijay and Vanitha to help in
> the
> core team.
>
> Vijay joined us as sponsorship & Python for Kids Track co-ordinator and
> Vanitha
> was helping Content, CFP, and other parts as required.
>
> The core team consisted of these 4 people to start with, apart from that,
> we
> had website, content and social media team for helping each other. We
> tried to
> keep all the discussions transparent on the mailing lists and IRC. We have
> done
> call for volunteers for every task as and when required.  We wanted to
> follow
> 2014/2015 model of working and make the conference decentralized as that's
> how
> we can build future leaders for the community. Vijay laid the foundation
> for a
> decentralized way of working in the year 2014 and 2015.  He always
> encouraged
> each volunteer to understand and take the responsibility to own the task
> end to
> end, provided confidence and made them comfortable.
>
> The job of core team was to support volunteers on a need basis.
>
> Under the leadership of Vijay during PyCon India 2015, we had taken PyCon
> India
> one step above and all the participants, from sponsors till attendees had
> something to appreciate in the event. I don't think anyone can deny that
> PyCon
> India 2015 was one of the best conferences to date. Here you can find the
> complete volunteers list [3].
>
> I do not think there was transparency maintained in last two editions of
> PyCon
> India (2016 and 2017) where I and many other volunteers had helped in
> shaping
> the volunteering team on conference days. In spite of us raising concerns
> during PyCon India 2016 feedback sessions on bringing all the discussions
> in
> the mailing list, in 2017 edition all the discussions were taken offline
> through Telegram groups. Were those Telegram groups more trustworthy and
> transparent than this year team? All the decisions were taken by a
> particular
> group of people in their sacred Telegram groups without consulting the
> remaining community (makes me think of the high Priests culture).
>
> No concerns could have been raised by the community then as no community
> had a
> chance to get involved (thanks to those sacred groups of Lords and
> friends).
> Last year, even a profit-making organization was given permission to
> conduct
> hackathon without any discussion with the community. If anything would
> have gone
> wrong during the hackathon, it would have impacted the Python Community in
> India not a particular group of people and I am not sure if everything was
> analyzed before taking a call. We all saw one incident during the panel
> discussion, and how it was handled.
>
> We haven't even seen event report for last year from the organizers or
> PSSI, is
> not that a basic rule for the PSF grant?  Where were all the folks who are
> commenting now when all this did not care?  How would PSF trust us next
> time
> when we approach any grant? Are not we impacting whole Indian Python
> community
> with this act?  There was a big discussion on Github access policy. How
> was the
> original access provided? Is it true that it was based on 1:1 Telegram
> discussion, as I haven't' seen any discussion here, now without the proper
> information he merged a request and we all spoke all policy?  Can Anand C,
> Noufal, and Anand P share information on how original access was provided?
> Did
> you guys check if he was just reviewing?
>
> Is that really community way of working?
>
> Let me share how we all did in 2014 or in 2015. It was based on trust.
> Every
> year is a fresh start.  We reconfigure access to email alias, social
> media, and
> other required locations. let us know if we misunderstood it?
>
> Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be
> raised for
> sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share invoice
> as
> they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely
> understand we
> wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board
> while
> we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of
> PSSI
> suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
> days for PSSI
> treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks
> like
> PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are
> citing
> like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let
> other
> teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And
> that
> makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?) running
> PSSI
> are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the
> community
> in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
> organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone
> please
> tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do
> not
> show your concern about the community when you do not care about the
> community
> at all.
>
>
> In the last thread, Vijay and Vanitha stepped down and we both are in
> there in
> core team still. Yet, you have asked for a new leadership team to run PyCon
> India 2018 without consulting us.  Looks like you and others already have a
> plan in place and wanted us to move away.
>
> Since this community does not trust the core volunteers and most of the
> people
> had already had some plans made, I do not think we are needed here anymore.
>
> Sayan Chowdhury and I are stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core
> team, I
> hope new team members will continue the work as they want.
>
> Links:
> [1]. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2017-November/011249.html
> [2]. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2017-October/011872.html
> [3]. https://in.pycon.org/2015/team.html
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chandan Kumar & Sayan Chowdhury
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