[Inpycon] Is PyCon India "really open"?

Bibhas Ch Debnath me at bibhas.in
Fri Jan 12 15:25:49 EST 2018


On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:39 AM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:29 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> wrote:
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>> Hi Vijay,
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:22 AM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:10 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:13 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <
>>>> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 13 2018, vijay kumar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> > Now that you says you didn't know anything, Are you correct to
>>>>> approve
>>>>> > PR ?
>>>>>
>>>>> An "LGTM" is not an approval.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I Personally would not recommend anyone doing anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly are you trying to say here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we can resolve this quite easily.  Why don't you point everyone
>>>>> on this list to the exact damage that he caused because he "didn't know
>>>>> anything"? If his LGTM actually legitimises a bad commit, then there's
>>>>> some substance to what you're saying. Please show us if this is the
>>>>> case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont think someone approving PR without knwoledge is right anywhere.
>>> He should have atleast asked someone before approving it in case he
>>> didn't know anything.
>>> I would never recommend anyone this.
>>>
>>
>>>> ​​
>> Did you read any of the mails sent by others in this thread?
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> First discusison happendin in Meeting , MOM had been published in mailing
> list.
> Next steps volunteer take based on thier comfort communication channel as
> it basically 1:1 discussions mainly.
>

Where is this documented? How would anyone starting to contribute now, know
the history of conversation? Ask all previous volunteers for their 1:1
conversation log? That really doesn't seem like an open discussion to me.

And Shashank said he's been contributing for 3 years now, that doesn't
qualify him to write LGTM on a blog post? Writing LGTM got him this comment?
- "I don't think you are part of volunteering Team for this year so please
stop reviewing it."

There are people in IRC *right now* saying that they're afraid of reviewing
further PRs. Do you see what you did wrong?



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>> You also skipped this question by Shashank -
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> Did that answer the question ?
>

​You forgot to answer my question -
​
Did you read any of the mails sent by others in this thread? You're talking
about organizing a community driven event and yet the community is telling
you that what you did was wrong. And you're turning a blind eye to it. You
literally ignored all the comments and blindly repeated your own view.

He approved the changes in the PR but he *did not* merge it. He did not
break anything! And yet your comment was exactly what someone who wants to
"preserve control" would say. That's not a comment made by someone who
welcomes community effort.

You also didn't answer to this - Also, what is the process of revoking
rights from the repository? Who gets to make this decision?



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>> > I don't know where the discussion are going on regarding the work for
>> which the PR was made. I'm active on mailing list and IRC, replying and
>> commenting on both the platforms.
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