From saikeo.kav at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 10:39:28 2016 From: saikeo.kav at gmail.com (Saikeo Kavhanxay) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 22:39:28 +0700 Subject: [Inpycon] Call for Volunteers to work on Junction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe I can help about feedback and suggestion. ????? ????????? ?? 23 ????? ?.?. 2016, Rishabh Singh <0601rishabh at gmail.com> ??????: > Hi folks! > > Hope everyone is doing great! > > Last year, we used our own software Junction[1] to manage the CFP's[2] > and it has been quite a success over the other tools tried so far and > was used by other communities as well[3]. That said, we also received > a huge amount of feedbacks to improve it by fixing bugs and adding > more features. > > If you are a programmer, we would like you spend sometime to going > through the existing Github issues[1], and send a patch if you can. > Try out the software locally, add any improvements that you can. > > Non-programmers, you can help us with your valuable feedbacks and > suggestions about the software. We will try to incorporate as many > features as possible. > > You need any kind of assistance onboarding to project or discussing > any feature, we are also available to chit-chat at > https://gitter.im/pythonindia/junction, drop by and say hi! > > PS: I am Rishabh Singh, from PyDelhi team, > I was asked by Saurabh Kumar to help out with Junction. I'm > taking this opportunity to get in touch with "you" the community and > try gather as much as help as possible. Even the tiniest of your > contribution counts. > > **Footnotes: > [1]: https://github.com/pythonindia/junction/issues > [2]: https://in.pycon.org/cfp/ > [3]: http://junction.pybelgaum.org/, https://cfp.pydelhi.org > > > -Rishabh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yash14123 at iiitd.ac.in Wed Mar 2 10:47:46 2016 From: yash14123 at iiitd.ac.in (Yash Sherry) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 21:17:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Call for Volunteers to work on Junction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What about the call for proposals? When is the date due? On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Saikeo Kavhanxay wrote: > Maybe I can help about feedback and suggestion. > > ????? ????????? ?? 23 ????? ?.?. 2016, Rishabh Singh < > 0601rishabh at gmail.com> ??????: > > Hi folks! >> >> Hope everyone is doing great! >> >> Last year, we used our own software Junction[1] to manage the CFP's[2] >> and it has been quite a success over the other tools tried so far and >> was used by other communities as well[3]. That said, we also received >> a huge amount of feedbacks to improve it by fixing bugs and adding >> more features. >> >> If you are a programmer, we would like you spend sometime to going >> through the existing Github issues[1], and send a patch if you can. >> Try out the software locally, add any improvements that you can. >> >> Non-programmers, you can help us with your valuable feedbacks and >> suggestions about the software. We will try to incorporate as many >> features as possible. >> >> You need any kind of assistance onboarding to project or discussing >> any feature, we are also available to chit-chat at >> https://gitter.im/pythonindia/junction, drop by and say hi! >> >> PS: I am Rishabh Singh, from PyDelhi team, >> I was asked by Saurabh Kumar to help out with Junction. I'm >> taking this opportunity to get in touch with "you" the community and >> try gather as much as help as possible. Even the tiniest of your >> contribution counts. >> >> **Footnotes: >> [1]: https://github.com/pythonindia/junction/issues >> [2]: https://in.pycon.org/cfp/ >> [3]: http://junction.pybelgaum.org/, https://cfp.pydelhi.org >> >> >> -Rishabh >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For more information about Let's Encrypt, try these links: https://letsencrypt.org/ https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/frequently-asked-questions-faq/26#topic-title Cheers Karambir Singh Nain (https://github.com/akarambir) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 13:31:29 2016 From: peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com (Peeyush Aggarwal) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:01:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of Meeting || Hangout Sesion || 17-Match-2016 Message-ID: Hello As per the discussion of the meeting, few things were finalized. Please respond with suggestions. 1. 50 T-shirts needs to be ordered to fulfil the backlog of PyDelhiConf. 2. Sponsorship prospectus content & design work has been started. Mr. Aniket Maithani has taken up the responsibility. Prospectus would be shared soon for review and suggestions. 3. Volunteers meeting up for discussions on 19-March-2015. [1] 4. 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I remember having discussion at PyDelhi or BangPypers mailing list that 40 minutes talks are too long, too boring, shorter duration (20 minutes) talks will allow more people to speak and will force the speakers to keep things crisp. Can someone from the organizing team brief about reasons on the decision on duration of talks? On 23 March 2016 at 01:49, Peeyush Aggarwal wrote: > >Hello Everyone > > >CFP page[1] is live and accepting submission which was announced earlier. > > >People are requested to raise any queries/issues or make suggestions in > reply to this email. > > >Regards > >Team PyCon India > > > [1] bit.ly/inpycon2016cfp > > This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > > <#8677872251153078816_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Harsh Sent from a GNU/Linux -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So that we can make it better . > Sponsorhip prospectus : > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fY52l1V92IM7fhC_Q2yiBEVvMpWuvRWKSRoeB0vMlZA > > Thank You > > Regards > Team PyDelhi > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Wed Mar 23 02:09:25 2016 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:39:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Use Let's Encrypt for HTTPS/TLS on Pycon Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56F23315.30707@letterboxes.org> Hi Karambir, On Thursday 17 March 2016 04:12 PM, Karambir Singh Nain wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I noticed that Pycon India website's SSL Certificate is expired(on 13th > March). I also tweeted about the issue to @pyconindia and Krace picked > it up. Through this mail, I wanted to suggest to use Let's Encrypt for > our HTTPS(TLS). The major advantages are: > Thank you for your suggestion and interest. This is already done using Letsencrypt itself. > - It is free. For an organization like PSSI, we can use that amount > somewhere else. > - It can be setup to renew itself after two-three months. So no yearly > issues like we have now. > - Let's Encrypt certificates are standard domain validation > certificates, which is what we need here. > > For more information about Let's Encrypt, try these links: > > https://letsencrypt.org/ > https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/frequently-asked-questions-faq/26#topic-title > > Cheers > > Karambir Singh Nain > (https://github.com/akarambir) > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand ---------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org http://twitter.com/skeptichacker From mohdsanadzakirizvi at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 03:22:06 2016 From: mohdsanadzakirizvi at gmail.com (mohd sanad zaki rizvi) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:52:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 for decreasing talk time from 40 to 20 minutes . It really becomes cumbersome. On Mar 23, 2016 3:37 AM, "Harsh Gupta" wrote: > The CFP page mentions duration of talks as 40 minutes. I remember having > discussion at PyDelhi or BangPypers mailing list that 40 minutes talks are > too long, too boring, shorter duration (20 minutes) talks will allow more > people to speak and will force the speakers to keep things crisp. Can > someone from the organizing team brief about reasons on the decision on > duration of talks? > > On 23 March 2016 at 01:49, Peeyush Aggarwal > wrote: > >> >Hello Everyone >> >> >CFP page[1] is live and accepting submission which was announced earlier. >> >> >People are requested to raise any queries/issues or make suggestions in >> reply to this email. >> >> >Regards >> >Team PyCon India >> >> >> [1] bit.ly/inpycon2016cfp >> >> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >> www.avast.com >> >> <#8726445642695913801_8677872251153078816_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > -- > Harsh > Sent from a GNU/Linux > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Wed Mar 23 03:32:05 2016 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:02:05 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56F24675.2080105@letterboxes.org> On Wednesday 23 March 2016 01:49 AM, Peeyush Aggarwal wrote: >>Hello Everyone > >>CFP page[1] is live and accepting submission which was announced earlier. > >>People are requested to raise any queries/issues or make suggestions in > reply to this email. Minor suggestion - Change the copyright at bottom to (C) 2016. > >>Regards >>Team PyCon India > > > [1] bit.ly/inpycon2016cfp > > This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand ---------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org http://twitter.com/skeptichacker From me at kracekumar.com Wed Mar 23 03:51:45 2016 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraj) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:21:45 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I feel there is a place for both. In previous editions there were lightning talks of 10 minutes. Probably it's good idea to have brief talks for 20 minutes. On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:52 PM, mohd sanad zaki rizvi < mohdsanadzakirizvi at gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for decreasing talk time from 40 to 20 minutes . It really becomes > cumbersome. > On Mar 23, 2016 3:37 AM, "Harsh Gupta" wrote: > >> The CFP page mentions duration of talks as 40 minutes. I remember having >> discussion at PyDelhi or BangPypers mailing list that 40 minutes talks are >> too long, too boring, shorter duration (20 minutes) talks will allow more >> people to speak and will force the speakers to keep things crisp. Can >> someone from the organizing team brief about reasons on the decision on >> duration of talks? >> >> On 23 March 2016 at 01:49, Peeyush Aggarwal >> wrote: >> >>> >Hello Everyone >>> >>> >CFP page[1] is live and accepting submission which was announced >>> earlier. >>> >>> >People are requested to raise any queries/issues or make suggestions in >>> reply to this email. >>> >>> >Regards >>> >Team PyCon India >>> >>> >>> [1] bit.ly/inpycon2016cfp >>> >>> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> <#8804578913054638592_8726445642695913801_8677872251153078816_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Harsh >> Sent from a GNU/Linux >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraj http://kracekumar.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 04:02:23 2016 From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:32:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Kracekumar Ramaraj wrote: > I feel there is a place for both. In previous editions there were > lightning talks of 10 minutes. Probably it's good idea to have brief talks > for 20 minutes. > I think keeping talks of two different time durations won't be too helpful. * It introduces the overhead of deciding which talk gets how much time. That can only be done after a detailed discussion between the user and the reviewers. Now this itself is a long shot since most people aren't too good at following up on proposal feedback. * Shorter talks are better for two reasons: if a talk is bad, the audience doesn't suffer for too long, and if it is good, the speaker will know how to make their impact even in 20 minutes. * Shorter talks also allow us to include more talks, so everyone is happier. * Lightning talks should be of five minutes. As it is, these talks are not planned and speakers invariably overshoot their time bounds. So a ten minute lightning talk will end up taking twelve to fifteen minutes. Overall, if past experience is any indication, we, as a community, don't have enough quality to drive the content for forty minute talks. > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:52 PM, mohd sanad zaki rizvi < > mohdsanadzakirizvi at gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 for decreasing talk time from 40 to 20 minutes . It really becomes >> cumbersome. >> On Mar 23, 2016 3:37 AM, "Harsh Gupta" wrote: >> >>> The CFP page mentions duration of talks as 40 minutes. I remember having >>> discussion at PyDelhi or BangPypers mailing list that 40 minutes talks are >>> too long, too boring, shorter duration (20 minutes) talks will allow more >>> people to speak and will force the speakers to keep things crisp. Can >>> someone from the organizing team brief about reasons on the decision on >>> duration of talks? >>> >>> On 23 March 2016 at 01:49, Peeyush Aggarwal >> > wrote: >>> >>>> >Hello Everyone >>>> >>>> >CFP page[1] is live and accepting submission which was announced >>>> earlier. >>>> >>>> >People are requested to raise any queries/issues or make suggestions >>>> in reply to this email. >>>> >>>> >Regards >>>> >Team PyCon India >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] bit.ly/inpycon2016cfp >>>> >>>> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> >>>> <#-6124824370859344027_8804578913054638592_8726445642695913801_8677872251153078816_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Harsh >>> Sent from a GNU/Linux >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > -- > Regards > Kracekumar Ramaraj > http://kracekumar.com > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- JD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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People need time to move from one hall to another and settle down. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 05:19:18 2016 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:19:18 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:22 PM, mohd sanad zaki rizvi wrote: > +1 for decreasing talk time from 40 to 20 minutes . It really becomes > cumbersome. > 20 minutes is way too less time to talk about anything in deep. I just came back from FOSSASIA where many speakers had that as a problem. Note: It will be nice if people do not top post. One can go through [1] to learn more about how to reply to a list. [1] http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Kushal -- Fedora Cloud Engineer CPython Core Developer http://kushaldas.in From rakesh at softgators.com Wed Mar 23 07:04:27 2016 From: rakesh at softgators.com (Raakesh Kumar) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:34:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56F2783B.60507@softgators.com> On Wednesday 23 March 2016 02:49 PM, Kushal Das wrote: > 20 minutes is way too less time to talk about anything in deep. I just > came back from FOSSASIA where many speakers had that as a problem. > Note: It will be nice if people do not top post. One can go through > [1] to learn more about how to reply to a list. [1] > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdfKushal I do think that decreasing talk time is not good for speakers as well as attendees. -- Thanks & Regards Raakesh Kumar Director, Softgators Tech (P) Ltd. +91 9015845820, +91 9540082755 DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gupta.harsh96 at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 07:52:50 2016 From: gupta.harsh96 at gmail.com (Harsh Gupta) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:22:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: <56F2783B.60507@softgators.com> References: <56F2783B.60507@softgators.com> Message-ID: > I do think that decreasing talk time is not good for speakers as well as attendees. Why do you think so? From ssg.bnv at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 07:58:49 2016 From: ssg.bnv at gmail.com (Shanki Singh Gandhi) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:28:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: <56F2783B.60507@softgators.com> Message-ID: 20 minutes is too short for a talk. If I remember correctly 40 minutes includes Q&A also. May be we can make it 30 min, where 25 min talk and 5 min Q&A. On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Harsh Gupta wrote: > > I do think that decreasing talk time is not good for speakers as well as > attendees. > > Why do you think so? > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rajatarora216 at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 07:54:31 2016 From: rajatarora216 at gmail.com (rajat arora) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:24:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks Message-ID: Hey folks, We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar for the conference. We would like to know what do you folks think about this? Since this is a community event, your feedback is important and would shape the path we take. Link of the feedback form: https://goo.gl/lfK7np Regards, Team PyCon India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 09:37:31 2016 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:07:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, rajat arora wrote: > We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the > beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar for > the conference. > I would think that this line of reasoning has a flaw. The quality of a conference in terms of content is shaped by the rigor, discipline and consistency applied by the editors (and the selection committee). Talk proposals with robust content that introduce the (well defined) target audience to a concept is as acceptable as well designed content intended for niche/advanced users. > We would like to know what do you folks think about this? > Since this is a community event, your feedback is important and would shape > the path we take. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Mar 23 12:41:52 2016 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:11:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: (sankarshan's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:07:31 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87twjx9men.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Wed, Mar 23 2016, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, rajat arora wrote: >> We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the >> beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar for >> the conference. >> > > I would think that this line of reasoning has a flaw. The quality of a > conference in terms of content is shaped by the rigor, discipline and > consistency applied by the editors (and the selection committee). Talk > proposals with robust content that introduce the (well defined) target > audience to a concept is as acceptable as well designed content > intended for niche/advanced users. > >> We would like to know what do you folks think about this? >> Since this is a community event, your feedback is important and would shape >> the path we take. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From mahati.chamarthy at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 12:39:46 2016 From: mahati.chamarthy at gmail.com (Mahati C) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:07 PM, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, rajat arora > wrote: > > We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the > > beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar > for > > the conference. > > > > I would think that this line of reasoning has a flaw. The quality of a > conference in terms of content is shaped by the rigor, discipline and > consistency applied by the editors (and the selection committee). Talk > proposals with robust content that introduce the (well defined) target > audience to a concept is as acceptable as well designed content > intended for niche/advanced users. > > > We would like to know what do you folks think about this? > > Since this is a community event, your feedback is important and would > shape > > the path we take. > > > > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > +1 to that. Cutting down entirely on a track because it usually has low quality content reason can be applied to other existing tracks as well. Action should rather be on quality review of content, authors and their prior experience in the field. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanyam.khurana01 at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 12:48:35 2016 From: sanyam.khurana01 at gmail.com (Sanyam Khurana) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:18:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, > Please help us spread the word. Kindly use #inpycon in your social updates. The correct hash-tag for PyCon India 2016 is #pyconindia. Please use this while spreading the word. Apologies for the mix-up. Thanks -- www.SanyamKhurana.com Github: CuriousLearner From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Mar 23 15:11:42 2016 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:41:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: (rajat arora's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:24:31 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87oaa59fgx.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Wed, Mar 23 2016, rajat arora wrote: > Hey folks, > > We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the > beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar > for the conference. > > We would like to know what do you folks think about this? Since this > is a community event, your feedback is important and would shape the > path we take. This came up in a thread a long time ago https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2014-October/009183.html The thrust of my argument was that we try to make PyCon a smaller but higher quality event. This means (among other things) - Don't have talks by inexperienced or first time speakers. - Don't have "intro to X" kinds of talks on popular technologies. but rather focus on more quality material. Reducing the number of tracks, talks or even days so that it's tighter and more intense gets a +1 from me. Talks by experienced people for beginners is probably okay but the opposite where first time speakers are using the conference mostly like a forum to practice is probably not. At the very least, I think it's a worthwhile experiment to focus on quality rather than quantity. People on the list disagreed with me when I brought this up last time. Maybe this time, the argument will find a more receptive ear. :) [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From akshayaurora at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 15:34:42 2016 From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 01:04:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: <87oaa59fgx.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87oaa59fgx.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: > > People on the list disagreed with me when I brought this up last > time. Maybe this time, the argument will find a more receptive ear. :) I actually see a consensus here till now. folks have responded against removing beginner talks but for having more quality. @noufal what you suggest in detail is exactly what others are suggesting too. Increase quality by having more quality checks and higher selection standards like - Only let people with experience an advance level of understanding give talks/workshops even for beginner level - Make sure first time speakers have to give a talk locally and provide a video of the talk We choose based on the quality of the talk. - Avoid intro to X kind of talks. Honestly you folks are right CFP is one of the biggest things we need to focus on for quality. The PyCon India team would need your feedback and support to make this successful. Please keep the suggestions coming. Regards Akkshay on behalf of Team PyCon India On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23 2016, rajat arora wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the > > beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar > > for the conference. > > > > We would like to know what do you folks think about this? Since this > > is a community event, your feedback is important and would shape the > > path we take. > > This came up in a thread a long time ago > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2014-October/009183.html > > The thrust of my argument was that we try to make PyCon a smaller but > higher quality event. This means (among other things) > - Don't have talks by inexperienced or first time speakers. > - Don't have "intro to X" kinds of talks on popular technologies. > > but rather focus on more quality material. Reducing the number of > tracks, talks or even days so that it's tighter and more intense gets a > +1 from me. > > Talks by experienced people for beginners is probably okay but the > opposite where first time speakers are using the conference mostly like > a forum to practice is probably not. At the very least, I think it's a > worthwhile experiment to focus on quality rather than quantity. > > People on the list disagreed with me when I brought this up last > time. Maybe this time, the argument will find a more receptive ear. :) > > [...] > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Thu Mar 24 00:33:32 2016 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:03:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: <8760wdbmu4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <8760wdbmu4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <56F36E1C.8040608@letterboxes.org> On Wednesday 23 March 2016 02:19 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23 2016, Peeyush Aggarwal wrote: > > I was going to suggest this myself. 30 minutes (25 talk + 5 minutes for > questions) sounds reasonable. >From many years of experience listening to talks, I have this rough analysis of the phases of a conference talk. Note that this goes slightly out of the main topic of discussion. Assuming the talk starts at time T=0. 1. T+5 => Introduction, getting to know speaker, setting up time. Audience alert level - High 2. T+10 => Topic introduction and basics of the topic. Honeymoon period. Audience alert level - High->Medium 3. T+20 => Honey-moon period of the talk. This is the time the audience reaction to the talk is mostly set. 80% of people will determine by this time whether to continue to listen, listen passively or walk off. Audience alert level - Variable (determined by talk quality & speaker engagement) The talk should be covering its meaty portions by around this time. 4. T+30 => Cooling-off period. Depending on how talk quality/speaker engagement so far, the audience would now be giving reactions. If the talk is engaging, the alert level would be same as (1) or even higher. If average->bad, you will see disengagement from the audience. 5. T+35 => Mental disengagement kicks-in. However good a talk is,around 30-35 min into it, you will start disengaging from it and getting distracted unless the speaker is really good in carrying people along and audience is still pouring in/engaged. I have tried hard to listen to 40 min talks the full extent but I have found 90% of the time, your mind starts switching off around (6) - one reason being the voice monotony - however good the speaker is. Given that here are some tips of engagement or giving a good talk. 1. Use the stage to your advantage - Keep walking, turning and looking audience in the face - select a few people randomly for this. This will force audience to follow you around and reduces boredom. Use the full stage for your talk. Dont just stand at one place. Standing just on the podium is the worst thing to do. 2. Don't speak in a monotonous voice- Try to vary your voice to suit the phases of the talk. Dont make it sound like a boring lecture at the same pitch and tone. It tends to put people off and in worst case to sleep. Use variations of pitch and tone to your advantage. 3. Come to the core of the topic in first 10 minutes - Dont use elaborate 10 min + introductions. People dont have that kind of patience these days. Dont forget that your talk is judged in first 10-15 mins in this age of twitter. 4. Keep the session interactive - Structure the presentation so you give interaction options in between the talk rather than at the very end. This puts audience on their toes and makes it more interesting. Keep it as a conversation (dialogue) than a monologue. 5. Add a touch of humour - I have often found this is one of the best ways to engage the audience - to add a light touch of humor where it fits. Everyone reacts to a good laugh. 6. Make the presentation interesting - Pictures speak more than a 1000 words. Slides with just text are *BORING*. Use graphics/video to good effect. Theme your presentation. Also reduce the amount of text per slide - not more than 4-5 lines at worst case. 7. Give real life analogies - Wherever possible, try to give real life analogies rather than pedantic examples. I thought I will write this - as it seemed to fit the tone of discussion. These tips are from many years of speaking experience. You are welcome to ask or write back to me on this. Back to the main topic - I believe talks should be 30+5 minutes. 30 mins for the talk and 5 mins for the transition. > > Also, when scheduling the talks, please put a 5 minute gap between the > ending of a talk and the beginning of the next. People need time to move > from one hall to another and settle down. > > -- Regards, --Anand ---------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org http://twitter.com/skeptichacker From gora at mimirtech.com Thu Mar 24 00:33:44 2016 From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:03:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Feedback Regarding Beginner Track Talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 23 March 2016 at 19:07, sankarshan wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, rajat arora wrote: > > We had some suggestions in our feedback last year to do away with the > > beginner track talks and workshops as they seem to lower the quality bar for > > the conference. > > > > I would think that this line of reasoning has a flaw. The quality of a > conference in terms of content is shaped by the rigor, discipline and > consistency applied by the editors (and the selection committee). Talk > proposals with robust content that introduce the (well defined) target > audience to a concept is as acceptable as well designed content > intended for niche/advanced users. I agree with some points that various people have made: * Improving the quality of the talks is imperative * A focus on better quality does not mean that beginner-level talks should be rejected out of hand. However, I really would like to weed out talks along the lines of: "Hey, I just used this wonderful Python package, and would like to talk about it". IMHO, something that could be picked up in a week by a reasonably-skilled developer should not qualify for a PyCon talk. * Likewise, we should expect more out of our audience. We should not be spoon-feeding them with material that they can, and should, learn out of a technical blog. IMHO, even beginner-level talks at PyCon should go beyond "Here is how Python works", or "Here is how to set up a first website with Django". The speaker should be bringing something to the table that is not already available on the Internet, and that's not an easy task. * Think that the way to bring about such improvements is through a more active engagement of the organising committee with prospective speakers. We need to push people to organise their talks better. Besides the quality of the content, they should also focus on how to present it to their targeted audience. Regards, Gora From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Mar 24 00:45:16 2016 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:15:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: <56F36E1C.8040608@letterboxes.org> (Anand B. Pillai's message of "Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:03:32 +0530") References: <8760wdbmu4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <56F36E1C.8040608@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <8760wca3hf.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Thu, Mar 24 2016, Anand B Pillai wrote: [...] > I thought I will write this - as it seemed to fit the tone of > discussion. These tips are from many years of speaking experience. You > are welcome to ask or write back to me on this. > > Back to the main topic - I believe talks should be 30+5 minutes. 30 > mins for the talk and 5 mins for the transition. [...] This is good advice. Might be worth putting up a page on the site with all this as "tips for speakers". -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sreenivas9alapati at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 01:01:03 2016 From: sreenivas9alapati at gmail.com (Sreenivas Alapati) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 05:01:03 +0000 Subject: [Inpycon] [FEEDBACK] Call for Proposals || PyCon India 2016 In-Reply-To: <8760wca3hf.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <8760wdbmu4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <56F36E1C.8040608@letterboxes.org> <8760wca3hf.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: Well written! some really good advice! Worth a bookmark. On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 at 10:12 Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24 2016, Anand B Pillai wrote: > > > [...] > > > I thought I will write this - as it seemed to fit the tone of > > discussion. These tips are from many years of speaking experience. You > > are welcome to ask or write back to me on this. > > > > Back to the main topic - I believe talks should be 30+5 minutes. 30 > > mins for the talk and 5 mins for the transition. > > [...] > > This is good advice. Might be worth putting up a page on the site with > all this as "tips for speakers". > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- http://cg-cnu.blogspot.in/ https://github.com/cg-cnu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanyam.khurana01 at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 13:16:40 2016 From: sanyam.khurana01 at gmail.com (Sanyam Khurana) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:46:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Official IRC channel and hashtag for PyCon India 2016 Message-ID: Hello, The official IRC channel for PyCon India is #pyconindia on freenode[1]. There are lot of discussions going on and you can join us there. Please help us spread the word about PyCon India using the hashtag #pyconindia on twitter[2] [1] https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23pyconindia [2] https://twitter.com/search?q=pyconindia -- www.SanyamKhurana.com Github: CuriousLearner