[Inpycon] [PyCon India 2015] CFP status

[Anand Chitipothu]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Kracekumar Ramaraju <me at kracekumar.com>
wrote:

>
> On Jun 22, 2015 16:08, "Anand Chitipothu" <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Kracekumar Ramaraju <me at kracekumar.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Past speaking experience shouldn't be only criteria, last year we had
> instances where proposer didn't submit the content till last week.
> >
> > Are you saying that past speaking experience is considered, but that is
> not  the only criteria?
> >>
> >> It should be based on the content, place holder for examples are
> acceptable. The broader point is to have the content appealable to reviewer
> and proposer can keep on refining the content.
> >
> > I think you can ask for an outline, but asking for whole content before
> accepting the proposal is probably too much. That'll give incentive for
> people repeating a talk given elsewhere than people trying to propose a
> completely new idea.
> >>
> >> It is pure meritocracy and level playground.
> >
> > How do you know if the person is a good speaker, has public speaking
> skills? Someone can write a beautiful proposal, but fail miserably on
> stage. Thats why it is important to look at past videos if available.
>
> What if someone can speak beautifully without any content ? At times
> people got a chance for various reasons like no other talk is available,
> some one turned down opportunity at last moment. I am discarding anyone's
> effort here. Also, if they have previously spoken that doesn't guarantee
> they are good at speaking.
>
> Remember, everybody was a first timer one day. If you keep giving
> preference to experienced ones, new comers with right content and knowledge
> will never get a chance. The current guidelines doesn't favour new comers
> also. It is based on the content.
>
Krace, my intention was not to start another flame war.

I'm sure you and others in the talk selection team would have thought and
discussed about all these.

Like Noufal pointed out the real issue is the mismatch between the
documentation and stand.

I'm sure there'll always be difference in opinions, it is part of the game.

> Any one who is submitting talk should have equal chance of getting on to
> stage. PyCon India should be inclusive.
>
> To be honest heavily down voted talks had poor content.
>
> Last year one of the well received talk was from a first timer. Also there
> was average feedback for repeated speakers too.
>
Fair.

Thanks for everyone in talk selection team for putting great efforts to get
awesome talks this year.

Just to make my stand clear, I'm not really against having first timers in
PyCon India, but I think past speaking history is an important factor. If
we knew that someone screwed up last year, no point letting him do the same
again.

Anand
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