From arindampradhan10 at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 06:22:22 2015 From: arindampradhan10 at gmail.com (Arindam Pradhan) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:52:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyBelgaum 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello PyBelgaum, I am unable to signup , When ever I try to signup it gives - An account already exists with this e-mail address. Please sign in to that account first, then connect your Google account.Please correct your form. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:06 PM, iliyas shirol wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are happy to announce the first Python conference of the year 2015. > > Location: Belgaum, Karnataka > Dates: 28th Feb - 1st March 2015. > Website: http://pybelgaum.org/2015/ > > The CFP is now open. 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Please sign in > to that account first, then connect your Google account.Please correct your > form. > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:06 PM, iliyas shirol > wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> We are happy to announce the first Python conference of the year 2015. >> >> Location: Belgaum, Karnataka >> Dates: 28th Feb - 1st March 2015. >> Website: http://pybelgaum.org/2015/ >> >> The CFP is now open. 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There could be some mistakes and wrong decisions, but it was surely in the right direction. > We request all to suggest people by filling the google form > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tXUQbBmYa_H-PtiMUAkdGWSXnAs4LLXQv_O3u3_mKLg/viewform?usp=send_form > This worries me. Who is going to review this and on what basis? Who is on the panel for selecting the talk-selection-panel? Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 09:33:07 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:03:07 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > This worries me. > Please share worries. Panel team members will be purely base of their expertise area. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 09:53:32 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:23:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:53:25 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Mon, Feb 02 2015, Anand Chitipothu wrote: [...] > Why don't we start with the talk selection team last year? IMHO, that was > the best talk selection team I've seen so far. There could be some mistakes > and wrong decisions, but it was surely in the right direction. +1. An independent talk selection committee led by someone is better than the core team trying to handle it. The better approach would be to ask for someone who can lead such a group and figure that on the list. Then let that person take care of finding qualified people to discuss talks and select them. > This worries me. Who is going to review this and on what basis? Who is > on the panel for selecting the talk-selection-panel? Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened by some internal group is a step backwards. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 10:07:53 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:37:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: > > Then let that person take care of finding qualified people to discuss > talks and select them. > >>we have tried this and it has not worked till now. > > > Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened by > some internal group is a step backwards. > >>They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so i don't see it to be step backwards. 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If you want to set criterial like the volunteer should have spoken in some past conference/ should be active community, etc..., lets evolve it here. +1 for a independent team of 10 people handling talk selection. - sree -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org www.mahiti-infotech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Mon Feb 2 10:15:27 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:45:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > > >> Then let that person take care of finding qualified people to discuss >> talks and select them. >> > >>we have tried this and it has not worked till now. > >> >> >> Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened by >> some internal group is a step backwards. >> > Allowing any one to select the talk is same as picking the talks by votes. Which ends up as bad choice. At the end some one has to make a call. > >>They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so i > don't see it to be step backwards. > Instead it give us opportunity to get new members and better panel team. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 10:24:39 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:54:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: (vijay kumar's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:37:53 +0530") References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Mon, Feb 02 2015, vijay kumar wrote: >> Then let that person take care of finding qualified people to discuss >> talks and select them. > > We have tried this and it has not worked till now. I think we tried something similar to this last year and I, for one, think that although the talks could have been better, the method of working was a step forward. My proposal is that we should repeat last years style of working but come up with more stringent criteria for selecting or rejecting talks. >> Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened >> by some internal group is a step backwards. >> >They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so i >don't see it to be step backwards. Instead it give us opportunity to >get new members and better panel team. The problem is not the selection criteria. I'm sure the people who will do the filtering are qualified enough to select based on expertise and experience. The problem is the lack of transparency. This is the point I've been repeatedly making. Here's my general idea. 1. Identify general areas which need to be worked on (e.g. sponsorships, talk selection etc.) 2. Come up with some general rules for how to manage these areas. For sponsorships, it would be things like the slabs, etc. For CFP, talk selection criteria. 3. Discuss *on the list* to find people who can lead these areas. That's something that will have to be done on the list. If a "leader" is already well known and has a track record, he or she can work mostly independently. Otherwise, there will have to be some amount of oversight and guidance. 4. Let these people be in charge of their areas and let them do their work without interference or policing. You and the other people involved at the top level can do mostly oversight and coordinating between teams. This scales much better and gives an opportunity for new people to get involved. 5. All communication happens on the list. When there's high b/w stuff necessary like for discussing talks etc., the appropriate team can use IRC/hangouts etc. and then post summaries back to the list. The key point is that while there is a single person who is leading the conference efforts, that person doesn't become a bottleneck and doesn't cripple work because of interfering in areas that he or she doesn't have expertise in. As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. That's the only way it'll sustain. In any case, I don't have the energy and time to drive this. If you and the others feel that it's better do things in a different way, more power to you. I'll pitch in when I can and if directly requested. Thanks. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 10:26:46 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:56:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > On 2 February 2015 at 14:37, vijay kumar wrote: > >> Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened by >>> some internal group is a step backwards. >>> >> >>They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so i >> don't see it to be step backwards. >> Instead it give us opportunity to get new members and better panel >> team. >> > > Feel, its not a transparent process. Lets just ask for volunteers to come > forward and join the talk selection committee. If you want to set criterial > like the volunteer should have spoken in some past conference/ should be > active community, etc..., lets evolve it here. > >> By requesting to fill form we are asking them to come forward and nominate where they can nominate themselves or other(if they are not in mailing list) I think basic criteria is technical expertise and knowledge. Other criteria like presentation and content can be planned once we get team. I suggest to have 3 members team for each section so it will not burden panelist also. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 10:46:30 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:16:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: > > > > I think we tried something similar to this last year and I, for one, > think that although the talks could have been better, the method of > working was a step forward. > > We are moving forward on basis on our experience from last few years. > > > >> Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being screened > >> by some internal group is a step backwards. > >> > >They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so i > >don't see it to be step backwards. Instead it give us opportunity to > >get new members and better panel team. > > > Here's my general idea. > > 1. Identify general areas which need to be worked on (e.g. sponsorships, > talk selection etc.) > > >> It all depends on volunteer support , that what we have been working on. > > 3. Discuss *on the list* to find people who can lead these areas. That's > something that will have to be done on the list. If a "leader" is > already well known and has a track record, he or she can work mostly > independently. Otherwise, there will have to be some amount of > oversight and guidance. > > >> I think we shouldn't choose leader here. Volunteer who is active for that year automatically become leader. This has worked successfully last year i would request to continue same. > 4. Let these people be in charge of their areas and let them do their > work without interference or policing. You and the other people > involved at the top level can do mostly oversight and coordinating > between teams. This scales much better and gives an opportunity for > new people to get involved. > >> That's the plan we follow, but when thing goes beyond certain level we take over and proceed as show needs to run irrespective of individual or team issues. > > > As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. That's the > only way it'll sustain. > >> It already in-place except few areas which we have identified and working on improvement on those. We are already group of 50 active volunteer last year. Hope to see old and new volunteer come together and take PyCon India to next level. Let focus on getting more panelist as talks are critical section of Conference. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Mon Feb 2 10:54:55 2015 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:24:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <54CF496F.2040300@letterboxes.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 02 February 2015 02:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02 2015, vijay kumar wrote: > >>> Then let that person take care of finding qualified people to >>> discuss talks and select them. >> >> We have tried this and it has not worked till now. > > I think we tried something similar to this last year and I, for > one, think that although the talks could have been better, the > method of working was a step forward. > > My proposal is that we should repeat last years style of working > but come up with more stringent criteria for selecting or rejecting > talks. > > >>> Agreed. This business of nominating people and then it being >>> screened by some internal group is a step backwards. >>> >> They will be selected purely on their experience and expertise so >> i don't see it to be step backwards. Instead it give us >> opportunity to get new members and better panel team. > > The problem is not the selection criteria. I'm sure the people who > will do the filtering are qualified enough to select based on > expertise and experience. > > The problem is the lack of transparency. This is the point I've > been repeatedly making. > With respect, you've been making and perhaps a bit too much - often repeating yourselves hoarse that it is beginning to look staid and overstated. Pls understand when it comes to tal selection, there are 2 extremes of transparency modes available. 1. 100% - Go just with the community votes. 2. 0% - A secret panel which works without any inputs and doesn't advertise its members. I think we all agree neither is good. So any actual panel would be doing something in between the two. Again let me repeat - there is no concerted effort of secrecy in any of these things. I request you to stop making this point to the point of making it sound uncomfortable. > > As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. > That's the only way it'll sustain. > I think Vijay is trying to do exactly that - isn't it ? He is giving a nomination form for people to nominate themselves. It is a starting point for de-centralisation. De-centralisation all sounds good on paper and in theory, but in practice, 1. The talk selection chair is answerable to the conference chair. Because the conference chair is running the whole show and talks is a huge part of the show. De-centralisation shouldn't mean decoupling, instead delegation with responsibility. I don't think this was the case last year so I want to stress it. 2. The conference chair has a lot of experience running the conference. So we need to give his opinions the due respect. I often see in this forum Vijay posting something, and a lot of criticism and opinions (which is good and required), but I often feel it goes a bit overboard. > In any case, I don't have the energy and time to drive this. If you > and the others feel that it's better do things in a different way, > more power to you. I'll pitch in when I can and if directly > requested. +1. I think someone from the new crop of Pythonistas - who are writing all this interesting code, calling for meetups and doing things actually on the ground should do it. It is another kind of decentralisation. > > Thanks. > > [...] > > - -- Regards, - --Anand - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org Cell: +919880078014 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUz0lvAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDM2MIANJQUHlqzl55B4qEwKmJnN5b insU+aq2aY5JdHLvWo0GiykpcvxU1nFoMyqcGaxujjuZU4x+suoCpPge4xR6Sz6v Breb6RGnJj6KU/tOaASOSldkWgDukPfV4x2wTPcLl40PHPe+Oe/ZNi5YNF5CjjjK GX5J1rkIkWlzP4rqmSaRNE5kmrkZuQHrjrxVm9KnAL4ithJ3tz54kG3CK/tSZqMh aRYeAgu/IFBS3DaJ+pkDBpFOCUI3TCvjIZC1V7C+rWBuD/kZR9wApOsJXZN697Cw dxvGeeyFO7sjuVrC4HTFj9qCVAwaAPb3+yNoCMWxIpHyiXpr0mz+NBect77Z6kQ= =6KYN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sree at mahiti.org Mon Feb 2 10:57:25 2015 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:27:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On 2 February 2015 at 15:16, vijay kumar wrote: > >> As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. That's the >> only way it'll sustain. >> > >> It already in-place except few areas which we have identified and > working on improvement on those. > We are already group of 50 active volunteer last year. Hope to see > old and new volunteer come together and take PyCon India to next level. > > Let focus on getting more panelist as talks are critical section of > Conference. > You are missing the point. Once google form is filled with nominations, who will scrutinise and select candidates from that list? and how do we plan and ensure transparency? - sree -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org www.mahiti-infotech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Mon Feb 2 11:00:46 2015 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:30:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 02 February 2015 03:27 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > On 2 February 2015 at 15:16, vijay kumar > wrote: > > > As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. > That's the only way it'll sustain. > >>> It already in-place except few areas which we have identified >>> and > working on improvement on those. We are already group of 50 active > volunteer last year. Hope to see old and new volunteer come > together and take PyCon India to next level. > > Let focus on getting more panelist as talks are critical section > of Conference. > > > You are missing the point. Once google form is filled with > nominations, who will scrutinise and select candidates from that > list? and how do we plan and ensure transparency? Put that to a vote. 100% transparent. But remember democracy doesn't always select the best people. > > - sree > > -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. > Ltd. An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise > > Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org > www.mahiti-infotech.com > > > > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing > list Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > - -- Regards, - --Anand - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org Cell: +919880078014 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUz0rOAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDiS8IAJcOeYAgsAXqS90+umDapY3q J0ElVp8GyTBi5zvpZXsgu6RMjv3GVDmzEMdLotdd+uIi3djKTJL6aeO0vXvCP6jt mockloV3W7mm1yLhGFxTKLAim49vxspNUnFZF7ff8t5ekAo3tMzSCiflq6T79zvy Yv5THYk2ai1fZ3S//Mx9X/qcluccG8UA/8kXiYsIyx0/t96dpPLeS2wSjUeHBjyi s13x00IYlUvB+y+VLXqENxp+YcOen90Z1vmC9Y+Q4HKeOb/L7GLutMP2DnR0fpLJ PnuC2FmrHcM7Hm2G/gEtiM8o5Ehbw/o/N78skv7pFWA31fWAGE0osMhrFbULFRs= =47V/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sree at mahiti.org Mon Feb 2 11:04:46 2015 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:34:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: On 2 February 2015 at 15:30, Anand B Pillai wrote: > > You are missing the point. Once google form is filled with > > nominations, who will scrutinise and select candidates from that > > list? and how do we plan and ensure transparency? > > Put that to a vote. 100% transparent. > +1. Such a explanation was missing. > But remember democracy doesn't always select the best people. I agree. Neither can any other alternative guarantee it. All I am saying is we should be transparent in our actions and communications. -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org www.mahiti-infotech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 11:36:25 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:06:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <54CF496F.2040300@letterboxes.org> (Anand B. Pillai's message of "Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:24:55 +0530") References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF496F.2040300@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <87iofkob12.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Mon, Feb 02 2015, Anand B Pillai wrote: [...] > With respect, you've been making and perhaps a bit too much - often > repeating yourselves hoarse that it is beginning to look staid and > overstated. I'm doing this because I think things are moving in the wrong direction. If there was atleast something that suggested that my point was understood, I'd have pulled back. Maybe it's just me. > Pls understand when it comes to tal selection, there are 2 extremes > of transparency modes available. > > 1. 100% - Go just with the community votes. > 2. 0% - A secret panel which works without any inputs and doesn't > advertise its members. > > I think we all agree neither is good. So any actual panel would be > doing something in between the two. > > Again let me repeat - there is no concerted effort of secrecy in any > of these things. I request you to stop making this point to the point > of making it sound uncomfortable. I know there isn't a concerted effort. I'm saying that the direction being taken is, probably inadvertently, leading to a style of doing things that's not sustainable. I'm not particularly bothered about making sure no one feels "uncomfortable". If I think there is a problem, I try to bring it up on the forum. If there's general agreement or it atleast provides some course correction, well and good. Otherwise, if the general consensus is that my point is not valid or requires too much effort, that's fine too. I do object to things not being discussed just because someone or other is "uncomfortable" with it. [...] > I think Vijay is trying to do exactly that - isn't it ? He is giving a > nomination form for people to nominate themselves. It is a starting > point for de-centralisation. I'm not questioning his (or any one elses) intention. I'm just not convinced by strategy and I'm bringing up the point. > De-centralisation all sounds good on paper and in theory, but in practice, > > 1. The talk selection chair is answerable to the conference chair. > Because the conference chair is running the whole show and talks is a > huge part of the show. De-centralisation shouldn't mean decoupling, > instead delegation with responsibility. I agree. I'm saying that you should give power along with responsibility. The conference chair (and a small core team) shouldn't micro manage every thing from sponsorships to talk selection. > I don't think this was the case last year so I want to stress it. I think it was though not as much as I'd have liked it to be. The main issue was a missing of deadlines which shouldn't happen. Apart from that, I think it was a good step. > 2. The conference chair has a lot of experience running the > conference. So we need to give his opinions the due respect. > > I often see in this forum Vijay posting something, and a lot of > criticism and opinions (which is good and required), but I often feel > it goes a bit overboard. People will have opinions about things. You can either encourage dissent and participation or you can supress it. You can't be "moderate" about it. Not all opinions will be comfortable, valid or even worth listening to. But that doesn't mean they should be sanitised. >> In any case, I don't have the energy and time to drive this. If you >> and the others feel that it's better do things in a different way, >> more power to you. I'll pitch in when I can and if directly >> requested. > > +1. I think someone from the new crop of Pythonistas - who are > writing all this interesting code, calling for meetups and doing > things actually on the ground should do it. It is another kind of > decentralisation. Fair enough. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 11:41:24 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:11:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Anand B Pillai wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 02 February 2015 03:27 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > > > On 2 February 2015 at 15:16, vijay kumar > > wrote: > > > > > > As the conference grows, I think we should decentralise more. > > That's the only way it'll sustain. > > > >>> It already in-place except few areas which we have identified > >>> and > > working on improvement on those. We are already group of 50 active > > volunteer last year. Hope to see old and new volunteer come > > together and take PyCon India to next level. > > > > Let focus on getting more panelist as talks are critical section > > of Conference. > > > > > > You are missing the point. Once google form is filled with > > nominations, who will scrutinise and select candidates from that > > list? and how do we plan and ensure transparency? > > >> As every year we can let Chair and Co-Chair decide on the panel team as they have taken responsibility to make PyCon India better. Let us know if any concern. I don't understand why transparency is been emphasized so much. We are very much transparent in all the decisions we make. Its a volunteer effort and everything is discussed either on mailing list or through volunteer meetups. No decisions are taken based on any individuals. I would request everyone to follow the meetups to understand our transparency level and also to participate in all the discussions. I would like to see new set of volunteers coming up with new idea to grow community and take to next level. Put that to a vote. 100% transparent. > >> This will create problem and we have seen it previously. Voting doesn't solve problem instead will create bigger problem. > But remember democracy doesn't always select the best people. > >> I completely agree > > > > > - sree > > > > -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. > > Ltd. An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise > > > > Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org > > www.mahiti-infotech.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing > > list Inpycon at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > - -- > Regards, > > - --Anand > > - > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Software Architect/Consultant > anandpillai at letterboxes.org > > Cell: +919880078014 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUz0rOAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDiS8IAJcOeYAgsAXqS90+umDapY3q > J0ElVp8GyTBi5zvpZXsgu6RMjv3GVDmzEMdLotdd+uIi3djKTJL6aeO0vXvCP6jt > mockloV3W7mm1yLhGFxTKLAim49vxspNUnFZF7ff8t5ekAo3tMzSCiflq6T79zvy > Yv5THYk2ai1fZ3S//Mx9X/qcluccG8UA/8kXiYsIyx0/t96dpPLeS2wSjUeHBjyi > s13x00IYlUvB+y+VLXqENxp+YcOen90Z1vmC9Y+Q4HKeOb/L7GLutMP2DnR0fpLJ > PnuC2FmrHcM7Hm2G/gEtiM8o5Ehbw/o/N78skv7pFWA31fWAGE0osMhrFbULFRs= > =47V/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 11:49:52 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:19:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: (vijay kumar's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:11:24 +0530") References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <877fw0oaen.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Mon, Feb 02 2015, vijay kumar wrote: [...] > This will create problem and we have seen it previously. Voting doesn't > solve problem instead will create bigger problem. [...] Agreed. The proper way forward is to discuss it. It might get a little hot and there might never be complete consensus (which is when the chair can use his power to take a decision) but openly soliciting ideas and atleast seriously considering them is much more robust. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 12:07:16 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:37:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <87iofkob12.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF496F.2040300@letterboxes.org> <87iofkob12.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: > > I'm not questioning his (or any one elses) intention. I'm just not > convinced by strategy and I'm bringing up the point. > >> Not everyone get convinced with other working style and strategy . We should just look at the intention of person. > > De-centralisation all sounds good on paper and in theory, but in > practice, > > > > 1. The talk selection chair is answerable to the conference chair. > > Because the conference chair is running the whole show and talks is a > > huge part of the show. De-centralisation shouldn't mean decoupling, > > instead delegation with responsibility. > > I agree. I'm saying that you should give power along with > responsibility. The conference chair (and a small core team) shouldn't > micro manage every thing from sponsorships to talk selection. > > >> Last year panel was independent, as they missed deadline repeatedly i need to take control being a conference Chair. Let me know if you would have done something different. Can you please let me know what micromanagement we did last year? If your point is about selection panel we have already discussed extensively let me know if you need more explanation on it. We are coming up with new plans based on feedback collected from panelist and speakers. Note: This feedback was not collected only by email, but though series of meetings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 12:14:33 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:44:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: (vijay kumar's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:37:16 +0530") References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF496F.2040300@letterboxes.org> <87iofkob12.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: <87y4ogmup2.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Mon, Feb 02 2015, vijay kumar wrote: [...] > Last year panel was independent, as they missed deadline repeatedly i > need to take control being a conference Chair. Let me know if you would > have done something different. I think I'd have done the same thing last year. However, I think the idea of an independent committee is the right way and I'd repeat it this year rather than scrap it completely. > Can you please let me know what micromanagement we did last year? Nothing that I know of. > If your point is about selection panel we have already discussed > extensively let me know if you need more explanation on it. > > We are coming up with new plans based on feedback collected from > panelist and speakers. Fair enough. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sree at mahiti.org Mon Feb 2 12:18:06 2015 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:48:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: On 2 February 2015 at 16:11, vijay kumar wrote: > >> As every year we can let Chair and Co-Chair decide on the panel team > as they have taken responsibility to make PyCon India better. This is one example of where it may start to send wrong signals. We as a community are striving for a better pycon every year, many community members take responsibility for it. Not just one or two designated members. Role of a nodal person(so called chair) for the event is to help different teams coordinate and bring discussions to conclusion. Feel it should remain that way. 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The talk selection chair is answerable to the conference chair. >> > Because the conference chair is running the whole show and talks is a >> > huge part of the show. De-centralisation shouldn't mean decoupling, >> > instead delegation with responsibility. >> >> I agree. I'm saying that you should give power along with >> responsibility. The conference chair (and a small core team) shouldn't >> micro manage every thing from sponsorships to talk selection. >> >> >> Last year panel was independent, as they missed deadline repeatedly i > need to take control being a conference Chair. Let me know if you would > have done something different. > > Can you please let me know what micromanagement we did last year? > > If your point is about selection panel we have already discussed > extensively let me know if you need more explanation on it. > > We are coming up with new plans based on feedback collected from panelist > and speakers. > > Note: This feedback was not collected only by email, but though series of > meetings. > > > I was in the panel last year. There was no intervention from chair person. Only at that the end, when schedule was delayed, chair person was asking for dates. Also delaying schedule makes difficult for lot people who are booking flights and trains. When one of the key not speaker was unable to make it up, lot of people were upset. Similar effect applies for final schedule. > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last year it was 2013 panelist who suggest panel member name. previously it was Chair and Co-Chair who were choosing panelist.(Correct me if am wrong) I think it didn't work well last year as we ran in lot of problems with few good improvements point.(we have discussed this already extensively so let not start discussion on it again) This is on going process where we will be improving every years. Anyone willing to help set criteria on panel selection please share. We even welcome volunteer to come forward and help us filtering panelist from nominations. -1 for public voting this is create more problems. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gora at mimirtech.com Mon Feb 2 17:35:40 2015 From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:05:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: Hi, Have been hesitating to chip in here given my poor track record in volunteering for Pycon India activities, and failing to deliver. Nevertheless, from a perspective of having helped organise moderately-sized open-source events, here is my 2 paise: * Have always been uncomfortable with talk selection based solely on public voting. IMHO, the core organisers of an event have the responsibility of ensuring the quality of talks at the event. Thus, I am actually quite OK with the talks being decided by an internal team provided that getting on the internal team is not too difficult. The danger in this approach is that the internal team ends up becoming quite cliquish, again IMHO. However, the challenge should be to remain open, and I think that Pycon India has beenn doing quite well at that. * The idea of an external panel of experts is quite good, but it comes down to how one selects such experts. - Even here, I think that the internal team needs to have strong representation on the panel, and maybe even the final say. - So, what might work is a mixture of weightages from: x Public voting via a Funnel-like system x Inputs from a panel of experts x Inputs from core organisers Regards, Gora On 2 February 2015 at 19:03, vijay kumar wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > wrote: > >> >> On 2 February 2015 at 16:11, vijay kumar wrote: >> >>> >> As every year we can let Chair and Co-Chair decide on the panel team >>> as they have taken responsibility to make PyCon India better. >> >> >> This is one example of where it may start to send wrong signals. We as a >> community are striving for a better pycon every year, many community >> members take responsibility for it. Not just one or two designated members. >> > > >> Sorry correcting my point . > Last year it was 2013 panelist who suggest panel member name. > previously it was Chair and Co-Chair who were choosing panelist.(Correct me > if am wrong) > I think it didn't work well last year as we ran in lot of problems with > few good improvements point.(we have discussed this already extensively so > let not start discussion on it again) > This is on going process where we will be improving every years. > > Anyone willing to help set criteria on panel selection please share. > We even welcome volunteer to come forward and help us filtering panelist > from nominations. > > -1 for public voting this is create more problems. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Arvi Krishnaswamy wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Saurabh Kumar >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:26 PM, vignesh >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Another alternate is to host all our static sites on github, >>>> >>> > > ?I current host my blog (www.arg0s.in)? and a few other static sites (for > landing page experiments and a/b tests) using jekyll + gh-pages on github. > While they work great in general, I've seen a drop in performance at high > load. When one of my blog posts made it to page 1 of hacker news, I had > 10K+ visitors in a day and things were a bit slow. I'm considering moving > high traffic sites over to run on Amazon S3/Cloudfront with a Wercker job > to push things automatically. I suspect github should work for most of the > static sites, but for the conference pages which may see spikes around when > pycon happens, you may want to consider E2E since their latency is hard to > beat where the audience is primarily in India. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Feb 2 18:51:26 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:21:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: (Gora Mohanty's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:05:40 +0530") References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: <87d25skxr5.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> I'm of the opinion that we should completely disable the public voting system on funnel/junction. It's easy to game it. We might be able to increase quality by allowing only people with tickets to vote but that would require some kind of integration which, I think, we don't have yet. Even if the voting system worked perfectly, the only thing it would tell us was which proposal was most popular. That's not what the program committee is trying to do. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sivasubramaniam.a at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 19:31:06 2015 From: sivasubramaniam.a at gmail.com (Sivasubramaniam Arunachalam) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 00:01:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for panel members for PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87pp9spucz.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87egq8psx4.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <54CF4ACE.6030604@letterboxes.org> Message-ID: Thanks & Regards, Sivasubramaniam Arunachalam On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:03 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > wrote: > >> >> On 2 February 2015 at 16:11, vijay kumar wrote: >> >>> >> As every year we can let Chair and Co-Chair decide on the panel team >>> as they have taken responsibility to make PyCon India better. >> >> >> This is one example of where it may start to send wrong signals. We as a >> community are striving for a better pycon every year, many community >> members take responsibility for it. Not just one or two designated members. >> > > >> Sorry correcting my point . > Last year it was 2013 panelist who suggest panel member name. > previously it was Chair and Co-Chair who were choosing panelist.(Correct me > if am wrong) > I think it didn't work well last year as we ran in lot of problems with > few good improvements point.(we have discussed this already extensively so > let not start discussion on it again) > This is on going process where we will be improving every years. > > Anyone willing to help set criteria on panel selection please share. > We even welcome volunteer to come forward and help us filtering panelist > from nominations. > I will be happy to volunteer ?for this task after the guidelines are set.? > -1 for public voting this is create more problems. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Highly appreciate sharing config files. > Vignesh, I've sent up config files offline. Do let me know once you are done with setting up the mail server. I think the current e2e networks node already runs exim with this configuration. > * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all > requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org for IP) > - Krace? > > Yes. > > >> * Change the IP address of in.pycon.org to the new server[1] - Anand >> * Take static dump of 2011-2014 events and funnel [2]. - Anand >> * Setup the webserver to serve 2010-2014 pages from static dump. - Krace? >> >> > Yes. Does static dump include funnel? > Yes. I've already mentioned it in my points. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If there are no concerns, will proceed with this. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Feb 3 04:05:27 2015 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:35:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: (Kracekumar Ramaraju's message of "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 01:46:23 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87zj8vk83s.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> On Tue, Feb 03 2015, Kracekumar Ramaraju wrote: [...] > Looks everyone is fine with this. If there are no concerns, will > proceed with this. [...] We can move the website but I think the domain should stay in.pycon.org. Most of the PyCons around the world are under this banner and it's nice to be "one of them". -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 04:23:07 2015 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:53:07 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: <87zj8vk83s.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87zj8vk83s.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03 2015, Kracekumar Ramaraju wrote: > > [...] > > > Looks everyone is fine with this. If there are no concerns, will > > proceed with this. > > [...] > > We can move the website but I think the domain should stay > in.pycon.org. Most of the PyCons around the world are under this banner > and it's nice to be "one of them". > Krace is only suggesting to change the CNAME record, not the actual domain name. $ dig in.pycon.org ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: in.pycon.org. 4970 IN CNAME pycon.anandology.com. pycon.anandology.com. 20570 IN A 106.187.46.141 He was suggesting to change pycon.anandology.com to pycon.pssi.org.in. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From jaysinhp at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 08:02:58 2015 From: jaysinhp at gmail.com (Jaysinh shukla) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:02:58 +0000 Subject: [Inpycon] Stickers for Python Express In-Reply-To: References: <53F5F125.1020207@redhat.com> <53F61848.1090803@redhat.com> <53F6C047.7000806@redhat.com> Message-ID: Regarding Stickers, Hello all. We are bunch of passout students from K.S.K.V. Kachchh University and organizing Introduction to Python Programming workshop at K.S.K.V Kachchh University as a part of Python Express( http://www.pythonexpress.in/workshops/43). I found this mail discussing for stickers. I request if there are stickers available (near by 50) We want it for distributing it to the students. We will be able to give shipping cost. Thank you. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > >> Anand, >> >> How much would the stickstamp charge for the shipping part? Because if >> our volunteers have to courier for each workshop, it's going to cost a lot >> I guess. >> > They were ready to ship for free. Our plan was to send 200 stickers per > speaker, that would be 25 shipments. Even if we pay 100 per shipment, > that'll still be Rs. 2,500. > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Jaysinh :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kiran Gangadharan < kiran.daredevil at gmail.com> wrote: > On 14 August 2014 at 19:18:26, Anand Chitipothu (anandology at gmail.com) > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Kiran Gangadharan < > kiran.daredevil at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >> >>> First of all, thank you for taking out time and setting up a website. >>>> That being said, this how I get the Welcome mail from PE: >>>> >>>> ?Hello Kiran Gangadharan, Thanks for signing up as trainer on Python >>>> Express. Regards, Python Express Team[image: open.php.gif]? >>>> >>>> It?s not a major bug, just my 2 cents :) >>>> >>> >>> Hi Kiran, >>> >>> It is HTML email. Haven't spent enough time formatting it. You are >>> welcome to contribute. >>> >> >> I tried sending a html email (without using any templates) with envelope >> in send_email() and it formatted correctly. I don't really know why I got >> an unformatted email earlier. >> > > It was a plain text template sent as HTML email. The line breaks got > converted to white space in HTML rendering. The issue is fixed now. > > Anand > > Awesome! Thank you for doing the necessary. > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Jaysinh :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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KSKV Kachchh University http://cs.kutchuni.edu.in Google Map location https://www.google.nl/maps/place/K.S.K.V.+KACHCHH+UNIVERSITY/@23.212779,69.655714,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xc4ad3a3601f5bdd3?sa=X&ei=QFnPVIraJ8Gy7QaeoYHIDw&sqi=2&ved=0CIEBEPwSMA0 PythonExpress Link: http://www.pythonexpress.in/workshops/43 -- Jaysinh :) -- Jaysinh :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaysinhp at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 11:26:20 2015 From: jaysinhp at gmail.com (Jaysinh shukla) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:26:20 +0000 Subject: [Inpycon] Stickers for Python Express In-Reply-To: References: <53F5F125.1020207@redhat.com> <53F61848.1090803@redhat.com> <53F6C047.7000806@redhat.com> Message-ID: That's really find Anand. I have mailed you my address. Please find and give me confirmation when you are done. Thanking you. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Jaysinh shukla > wrote: > >> Regarding Stickers, >> Hello all. We are bunch of passout students from K.S.K.V. >> Kachchh University and organizing Introduction to Python Programming >> workshop at K.S.K.V Kachchh University as a part of Python Express( >> http://www.pythonexpress.in/workshops/43). I found this mail discussing >> for stickers. I request if there are stickers available (near by 50) We >> want it for distributing it to the students. We will be able to give >> shipping cost. Thank you. >> > > I have some python stickers with me. Please send me your address, I'll > post them to you. > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Jaysinh :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vignesh.sarma at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 17:45:58 2015 From: vignesh.sarma at gmail.com (vignesh) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:15:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, vignesh wrote: > >> I have already volunteered to manage servers, I will take the >> responsibility of migration. >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Currently I'm hosting in.pycon.org on my personal server. There was a >>> plan to move in.pycon.org website to PSSI servers. I think I suggested >>> that an year back, but never got a chance to finish that. >>> >>> In addition to the in.pycon.org website, I also host the mail server >>> for in.pycon.org. >>> >>> I'm planning to work on it soon and here is the plan that I've in mind. >>> >>> * Setup mail server on new node. - Krace? >>> >> >> I will take care of this. Can you give info on our current mail server >> setup ? Highly appreciate sharing config files. >> > > Vignesh, I've sent up config files offline. > > Do let me know once you are done with setting up the mail server. I think > the current e2e networks node already runs exim with this configuration. > Current e2e server is running on very old version of debian. We need to reimage it to Ubuntu 14.04. Once that is done we will set up the exim on that machine. Meanwhile if you and prepare the dump, once the machine is ready we can host it there. > > >> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all >> requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org for >> IP) - Krace? >> >> Yes. >> >> >>> * Change the IP address of in.pycon.org to the new server[1] - Anand >>> * Take static dump of 2011-2014 events and funnel [2]. - Anand >>> * Setup the webserver to serve 2010-2014 pages from static dump. - Krace? >>> >>> >> Yes. Does static dump include funnel? >> > > Yes. I've already mentioned it in my points. > > Anand > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 08:17:19 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:47:19 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Suggestion for selection panelist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks all for nominations(we have got 15) . We will get in touch with selected person based on their work experience in particular sections. if any more recommendations please feel free to drop email to me with details. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:28 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > Requesting all to suggest people and their proficiency on different area > of Python for selection panel. > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tXUQbBmYa_H-PtiMUAkdGWSXnAs4LLXQv_O3u3_mKLg/viewform?usp=send_form > > You can either fill that form or even mail the suggestion if you feel > filling form is cumbersome. > > With Thanks > Vijay > -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vignesh.sarma at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 20:11:21 2015 From: vignesh.sarma at gmail.com (vignesh) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:41:21 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:15 PM, vignesh wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, vignesh wrote: >> >>> I have already volunteered to manage servers, I will take the >>> responsibility of migration. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Anand Chitipothu >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Currently I'm hosting in.pycon.org on my personal server. There was a >>>> plan to move in.pycon.org website to PSSI servers. I think I suggested >>>> that an year back, but never got a chance to finish that. >>>> >>>> In addition to the in.pycon.org website, I also host the mail server >>>> for in.pycon.org. >>>> >>>> I'm planning to work on it soon and here is the plan that I've in mind. >>>> >>>> * Setup mail server on new node. - Krace? >>>> >>> >>> I will take care of this. Can you give info on our current mail server >>> setup ? Highly appreciate sharing config files. >>> >> >> Vignesh, I've sent up config files offline. >> >> Do let me know once you are done with setting up the mail server. I think >> the current e2e networks node already runs exim with this configuration. >> > > Current e2e server is running on very old version of debian. We need to > reimage it to Ubuntu 14.04. Once that is done we will set up the exim on > that machine. > > Meanwhile if you and prepare the dump, once the machine is ready we can > host it there. > > >> >> >>> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all >>> requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org for >>> IP) - Krace? >>> >> We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on it. Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the static dump is ready we can switch.) Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by writing to PSF folks? Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. > > Yes. >>> >>> >>>> * Change the IP address of in.pycon.org to the new server[1] - Anand >>>> * Take static dump of 2011-2014 events and funnel [2]. - Anand >>>> * Setup the webserver to serve 2010-2014 pages from static dump. - >>>> Krace? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes. Does static dump include funnel? >>> >> >> Yes. I've already mentioned it in my points. >> > >> Anand >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > -- > -Best > Vignesh > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 04:24:51 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 08:54:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Hi Anand, > Can you please do needful to move CNAME change of in.pycon.org as vignesh suggested. At the same time can you please share dump of old PyCon India or can you provide access to server so we can take dump. > We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on it. > Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the > static dump is ready we can switch.) > > Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by writing > to PSF folks? > Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 12:25:07 2015 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:55:07 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > >>> >>>> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all >>>> requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org for >>>> IP) - Krace? >>>> >>> > We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on it. > Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the > static dump is ready we can switch.) > We don't have an MX record for that domain, it just follows CNAME record for emails. I suggest wait until the email server setup is done. I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. > Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by writing > to PSF folks? > Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. > Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shravan.kasagoni at outlook.com Thu Feb 12 16:29:50 2015 From: shravan.kasagoni at outlook.com (shravan.kasagoni at outlook.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:29:50 +0000 Subject: [Inpycon] Your confirmation is required to leave the Inpycon mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sent from iPhone Outlook On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:28 AM -0800, wrote: Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Inpycon We have received a request from 49.207.254.209 for the removal of your email address, "shravan.kasagoni at outlook.com" from the inpycon at python.org mailing list. 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(Once the >> static dump is ready we can switch.) >> > > We don't have an MX record for that domain, it just follows CNAME record > for emails. I suggest wait until the email server setup is done. > > I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. > > >> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >> writing to PSF folks? >> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >> > > Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have > already got our new website ready but can't get it live due to this blocker. > Note: We are already 2 month delayed and it becoming blocker for status any > PyCon India 2015 activities. > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>>> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all >>>>>> requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org for >>>>>> IP) - Krace? >>>>>> >>>>> >>> We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on it. >>> Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the >>> static dump is ready we can switch.) >>> >> >> We don't have an MX record for that domain, it just follows CNAME record >> for emails. I suggest wait until the email server setup is done. >> >> I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. >> >> >>> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >>> writing to PSF folks? >>> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >>> >> >> Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. >> >> Anand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > -- > Thanks, > Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please do the rest. > I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. > > >> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >> writing to PSF folks? >> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >> > > Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vignesh.sarma at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 17:03:37 2015 From: vignesh.sarma at gmail.com (vignesh) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 21:33:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: <1424102417512.c5852d78@Nodemailer> References: <1424102417512.c5852d78@Nodemailer> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:30 PM, wrote: > Please setup the website on the new server and I'll start proxying it. > That'll get website up and we continue working on the migration. > The new site is deployed at pycon.pssi.org.in/2015/ and the other pycon.pssi.org.in/2014/ and pycon.pssi.org.in/2013/ etc are proxy passed to pycon.anandology.com as I already mentioned. > I don't think it is a good idea to migrate without mail server setup. > That's also done. > > > Anand > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:48 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > >> Vingesh/Krace/Anand, >> Please do the needful and get PyCon India 2015 website live. We have >> already got our new website ready but can't get it live due to this blocker. >> >> Note: We are already 2 month delayed and it becoming blocker for status >> any PyCon India 2015 activities. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy all >>>>>>> requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig in.pycon.org >>>>>>> for IP) - Krace? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on >>>> it. >>>> Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the >>>> static dump is ready we can switch.) >>>> >>> >>> We don't have an MX record for that domain, it just follows CNAME record >>> for emails. I suggest wait until the email server setup is done. >>> >>> I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. >>> >>> >>>> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >>>> writing to PSF folks? >>>> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >>>> >>> >>> Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. >>> >>> Anand >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, >> Vijay >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 18:00:14 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:30:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Moving in.pycon.org to PSSI server In-Reply-To: References: <1424102417512.c5852d78@Nodemailer> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:33 PM, vignesh wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:30 PM, wrote: > >> Please setup the website on the new server and I'll start proxying it. >> That'll get website up and we continue working on the migration. >> > > The new site is deployed at pycon.pssi.org.in/2015/ and the other > pycon.pssi.org.in/2014/ and pycon.pssi.org.in/2013/ etc are proxy passed > to pycon.anandology.com as I already mentioned. > > I don't think it is a good idea to migrate without mail server setup. > > That's also done. > >> Thanks Vignesh. @Anand , Please do the needful so we can move forward. > > >> >> >> Anand >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:48 PM, vijay kumar >> wrote: >> >>> Vingesh/Krace/Anand, >>> Please do the needful and get PyCon India 2015 website live. We >>> have already got our new website ready but can't get it live due to this >>> blocker. >>> >>> Note: We are already 2 month delayed and it becoming blocker for status >>> any PyCon India 2015 activities. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Anand Chitipothu >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Setup http server on new node serving in.pycon.org and proxy >>>>>>>> all requests to current in.pycon.org IP address (see dig >>>>>>>> in.pycon.org for IP) - Krace? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> We got the server reimaged, pycon.pssi.org.in is setup and running on >>>>> it. >>>>> Older pycon sites are proxy_passed to pycon.anandology.com. (Once the >>>>> static dump is ready we can switch.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> We don't have an MX record for that domain, it just follows CNAME >>>> record for emails. I suggest wait until the email server setup is done. >>>> >>>> I'm working on the dumps, expect something my Monday. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >>>>> writing to PSF folks? >>>>> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. >>>> >>>> Anand >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Vijay >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > -- > -Best > Vignesh > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kartiksinghal at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 05:23:19 2015 From: kartiksinghal at gmail.com (Kartik Singhal) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:53:19 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2015 website early view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Liked the design and theme overall. Kudos to the team who worked on the site. This might in your plan already -- noticed that the Blog link is a named anchor on the homepage, might be a good idea to have it linked to a separate page so that previous entries can be accessed easily. An excerpt from the latest entry in the blog can be shown on home. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Kracekumar Ramaraju wrote: > Hi All > > We have come up with PyCon India 2015 website, > http://pycon.pssi.org.in/2015/. The site contains venue , sponsorship > details etc ... This is an early release. Please feel free to share the > feedback. > > In case of technical issue, please file an issue at > https://github.com/pythonindia/inpycon2015 and feel free to contribute to > design & code. > > Note: There is an on going work for in.pycon.org subdomain, once that is > complete the http://in.pycon.org/2015/ will be working. > > -- > Regards > Kracekumar Ramaraju > http://kracekumar.com > +91 85530 29521 > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Kartik http://techglider.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Tue Feb 17 05:52:49 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:22:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2015 website early view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Kartik Singhal wrote: > Liked the design and theme overall. Kudos to the team who worked on the > site. > > This might in your plan already -- noticed that the Blog link is a named > anchor on the homepage, might be a good idea to have it linked to a > separate page so that previous entries can be accessed easily. An excerpt > from the latest entry in the blog can be shown on home. > > Yes, normally blog url will be in.pycon.org/2014/blog. It will use part of git repo (similar to last year). We are working on the blog part once that is done, we will link it. Thanks > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Kracekumar Ramaraju > wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> We have come up with PyCon India 2015 website, >> http://pycon.pssi.org.in/2015/. The site contains venue , sponsorship >> details etc ... This is an early release. Please feel free to share the >> feedback. >> >> In case of technical issue, please file an issue at >> https://github.com/pythonindia/inpycon2015 and feel free to contribute >> to design & code. >> >> Note: There is an on going work for in.pycon.org subdomain, once that is >> complete the http://in.pycon.org/2015/ will be working. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Kracekumar Ramaraju >> http://kracekumar.com >> +91 85530 29521 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > -- > Kartik > http://techglider.in > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ltd. > An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise > > Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 > Mobile: +91 98455 12611 > www.mahiti.org > www.mahiti-infotech.com > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 07:56:37 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:26:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 Message-ID: Hi, Every year we face lots of hurdles with video management from finding the volunteers, getting them training sessions on handling the equipment, managing and setting up the equipment in the venue a day before conference and processing the video later to upload. It is strenuous for the video volunteers as well as they can't attend any sessions on their choice and have to be managing the video capturing all the three days. To ease the life of everyone we are discussing with a vendor who has done video management for Functional Programming and Agile India conferences. They charge around *40,000 a day* and its *1.2L for the entire conference including workshop* which is very much affordable. Here is the link for Agile India for your reference. Please share your thoughts. Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arvi at alumni.iastate.edu Tue Feb 17 09:30:39 2015 From: arvi at alumni.iastate.edu (Arvi Krishnaswamy) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:00:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm a speaker at AgileIndia this year and may have more feedback post the event. However just looking at the videos - I think the audio seems ok, but I think the HasGeek picture-in-picture view which lets you see both the slides and the speaker are significantly better. Otherwise you are often looking at the speakers face while he is referring to something on the slides, or vice versa. I think HasGeek has been providing all the equipment to PSSI pro bono so far, perhaps is there a different commercial arrangement that can be discussed with them as a media partner where they (or someone they subcontract to) will handle all these things? -A On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > Hi, > > Every year we face lots of hurdles with video management from finding the > volunteers, getting them training sessions on handling the equipment, > managing and setting up the equipment in the venue a day before conference > and processing the video later to upload. > > It is strenuous for the video volunteers as well as they can't attend any > sessions on their choice and have to be managing the video capturing all > the three days. > > To ease the life of everyone we are discussing with a vendor who has done > video management for Functional Programming and Agile India conferences. > > They charge around *40,000 a day* and its *1.2L for the entire conference > including workshop* which is very much affordable. > > Here is the link for Agile India > for > your reference. > > Please share your thoughts. > > Thanks, > Vijay > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 13:24:29 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:54:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >> Here is the link for Agile India >> for >> your reference. >> > > Lets explore couple of more people who are into similar stuff. > > >> We found other to be too expensive If any other suggestions we can surely explore. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 18:31:16 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:01:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Arvi Krishnaswamy wrote: > I'm a speaker at AgileIndia this year and may have more feedback post the > event. However just looking at the videos - I think the audio seems ok, but > I think the HasGeek picture-in-picture view which lets you see both the > slides and the speaker are significantly better. Otherwise you are often > looking at the speakers face while he is referring to something on the > slides, or vice versa. Definite +1 to this. The videos HasGeek puts up are really of top quality like mentioned the picture in picture adds a lot of context and meaning to the presentations. I was particularly not satisfied with how Agile India recorded the Functional Conf videos majorly because their focus was only on the speakers and not on the slides. This actually caused quite a disconnect IMO. > I think HasGeek has been providing all the equipment > to PSSI pro bono so far, perhaps is there a different commercial arrangement > that can be discussed with them as a media partner where they (or someone > they subcontract to) will handle all these things? A media partner makes a lot of sense. From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 18:59:34 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:29:34 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > A media partner makes a lot of sense. > >>I think lets not speak in public about any organisation who are helping us. As mentioned in initial email getting volunteer to attend training and manage equipment is not easy. For training volunteer need to be in bangalore one week before the conference dates to understand equipment , setup and other things even after training thing doesn't work smoothly. Video volunteer don't get chance to attend session of their choice. Volunteer from previous year have come forward to continue next year. If 2-3 person like you , can come forward to lead this year we can surely think about this as options. Note: Even experience video volunteer doesn't feel good to do setup, this is feedback given on last of conference last year. This is why we can looks to outsource video management. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 19:09:57 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:39:57 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:29 PM, vijay kumar wrote: [...] > As mentioned in initial email getting volunteer to attend training and > manage equipment is not easy. For training volunteer need to be in bangalore > one week before the conference dates to understand equipment , setup and > other things even after training thing doesn't work smoothly. This is something that will improve with time, right? If they have to be there a week before in Blr then we should be insistent on getting volunteers from Blr for this task. > Video volunteer don't get chance to attend session of their choice. > Volunteer from previous year have come forward to continue next year. This IMO is entirely their choice. It is completely a informed decision on their part. They will know that they will not be able to attend sessions of their liking. If we have a lack of volunteers then we can consider outer parties. > If 2-3 person like you , can come forward to lead this year we can surely > think about this as options. Leading something like this would be hard for me since I am not in the city. Also i'd like to take the lead on organizing the open spaces section of the event this year since I wasn't able to do much last year due to personal issues. > Note: Even experience video volunteer doesn't feel good to do setup, this is > feedback given on last of conference last year. As I already said, this will only come with time. They can't be good in 1 or 2 tries. The videos from last time were pretty decent actually. > This is why we can looks to outsource video management. If the consensus is to outsource video management, then our claim should be that we need videos to be produced in a fashion that has both the speaker and the slides on the screen at every point in time. That should be our major priority. From kushaldas at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 19:22:06 2015 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:52:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:29 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > > > This is why we can looks to outsource video management. Yes we can. But that should be at least of similar quality. The videos from the volunteers with help from Hasgeek is still one of the best quality I have ever seen. As a sidenote, the PyCon USA is also having a volunteer team who runs the video work. Only for Montreal we are taking outside help as volunteers are not allowed to work in that scale without work permits. Kushal -- Fedora Cloud Engineer CPython Core Developer Director Python Software Foundation http://kushaldas.in From jace at pobox.com Tue Feb 17 19:35:26 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:05:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Arvi and Shrayas. We got into video recording because we couldn't find anyone who could deliver the quality we wanted at the turnaround time we wanted. Rahul Ravindran, who is a PyCon video volunteer, also volunteered at JSFoo 2014 and we had a turnaround time of less than 1 hour after each talk for processing the video (videos were released overnight however because of bandwidth constraints). The PyCon crew is a doing a great job already, and I'm happy to continue offering equipment and training pro bono on behalf of HasGeek. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Shrayas rajagopal wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:29 PM, vijay kumar > wrote: > > [...] > > > As mentioned in initial email getting volunteer to attend training and > > manage equipment is not easy. For training volunteer need to be in > bangalore > > one week before the conference dates to understand equipment , setup and > > other things even after training thing doesn't work smoothly. > > This is something that will improve with time, right? If they have to > be there a week before in Blr then we should be insistent on getting > volunteers from Blr for this task. > > > Video volunteer don't get chance to attend session of their choice. > > Volunteer from previous year have come forward to continue next year. > > This IMO is entirely their choice. It is completely a informed > decision on their part. They will know that they will not be able to > attend sessions of their liking. If we have a lack of volunteers then > we can consider outer parties. > > > If 2-3 person like you , can come forward to lead this year we can surely > > think about this as options. > > Leading something like this would be hard for me since I am not in the > city. > > Also i'd like to take the lead on organizing the open spaces section > of the event this year since I wasn't able to do much last year due to > personal issues. > > > Note: Even experience video volunteer doesn't feel good to do setup, > this is > > feedback given on last of conference last year. > > As I already said, this will only come with time. They can't be good > in 1 or 2 tries. The videos from last time were pretty decent > actually. > > > This is why we can looks to outsource video management. > > If the consensus is to outsource video management, then our claim > should be that we need videos to be produced in a fashion that has > both the speaker and the slides on the screen at every point in time. > That should be our major priority. > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 19:37:14 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:07:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Video volunteering is special skill. Last year it was very tough to get volunteer We were almost thinking to drop capturing video for whole event. Unless we don't get 2-3 volunteer for this task it immartial to discuss on this. FYI: Even Blr volunteer can't put leave for 3-4 days for workshop and setup. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 19:46:25 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:16:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > The PyCon crew is a doing a great job already, and I'm happy to continue > offering equipment and training pro bono on behalf of HasGeek. > I think it not good to public provide feedback given by volunteer and their experience . They have already informed they don't want to volunteer for this task this year. 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If this > were the case, would HasGeek be up for taking this up - potentially via > someone else who uses your equipment and is trained by you? Since this is > for just a 3 day period, perhaps this may work?? > > >> Just note Hasgeek was given table(equal to silver sponsors) from PyCon > India team just for support of equipment. > If Hasgeek is fine to support with their team i would request to take discussion offline. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jace at pobox.com Wed Feb 18 10:10:46 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:40:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Video recording isn't in our commercial charter as a company, but we have no problem training someone who does want to take this up. If any volunteers want to upgrade to a paid service and earn from doing this, we will support them. Of course, if there is another provider doing a better job, you should consider them. Vijay, I'm not sure why you think it's not a good idea to compliment someone in public. The video volunteers did a good job and this is a good thing. It deserves to be recognised. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:52 AM, vijay kumar wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Arvi Krishnaswamy < > arvi at alumni.iastate.edu> wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks for the vote of confidence, Arvi and Shrayas. >>> >>> The PyCon crew is a doing a great job already, and I'm happy to continue >>> offering equipment and training pro bono on behalf of HasGeek. >>> >> >> ?From the original note about a vendor being considered: "They charge >> around *40,000 a day* and its *1.2L for the entire conference including >> workshop* which is very much affordable."? >> >> ?Since the other vendor is "very much affordable" at 1.2L per the note, I >> presume a higher amount of spend is fine - let me assume 1.5-2L. If this >> were the case, would HasGeek be up for taking this up - potentially via >> someone else who uses your equipment and is trained by you? Since this is >> for just a 3 day period, perhaps this may work?? >> >> >> Just note Hasgeek was given table(equal to silver sponsors) from >> PyCon India team just for support of equipment. >> > If Hasgeek is fine to support with their team i would request to > take discussion offline. > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 13:14:34 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:44:34 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Vijay, I'm not sure why you think it's not a good idea to compliment > someone in public. The video volunteers did a good job and this is a good > thing. It deserves to be recognised. > Let me clarify my statement. I have no concern in complimenting the volunteers in public as I myself have done it so many times and I agree that last year video volunteers did a tremendous job even after having so less experience. My contention was about the feedback provided by the video volunteers last year which I did not want to make it public. I would request, lets focus on video management for PyCon India 2015. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arvi at alumni.iastate.edu Wed Feb 18 14:47:53 2015 From: arvi at alumni.iastate.edu (Arvi Krishnaswamy) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:17:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ]On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > Video recording isn't in our commercial charter as a company, but we have > no problem training someone who does want to take this up. If any > volunteers want to upgrade to a paid service and earn from doing this, we > will support them. > ?Unless a) someone one of the past volunteers wants to take this up and work ?with the budget mentioned earlier, and b) no table/desk is assigned to hasgeek for the equipment, I dont see any other option besides outsourcing it. If we find a good vendor, I think it's the right way to go forward and will let the volunteers focus on other areas of the conference. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 15:48:22 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:18:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There IMO isn't a problem with outsourcing this if there aren't enough volunteers to take it up and run it. With that said, here are my concerns: 1. The FuConf videos were not at all even close to the quality that PyCon India put out last year (no offense intended, being frank). If we are going ahead with them, We should make it clear about the quality and the format of the video required (slides + speaker). 2. Shouldn't we be giving this more time for volunteers to come forward and take responsibility? Has a call for volunteers already been made? Regards, Shrayas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jace at pobox.com Wed Feb 18 16:10:33 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:40:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Shrayas rajagopal wrote: > 2. Shouldn't we be giving this more time for volunteers to come forward > and take responsibility? Has a call for volunteers already been made? > > FWIW, the event is in October and we're in February. 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URL: From me at kracekumar.com Wed Feb 18 20:01:21 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:31:21 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi There are few technical issues we face - Most of the time captured video requires snip at the start/end. Say the recording started as soon as speaker is on stage, then there is some technical issue in setting up laptop. As a result first 1 - 2 minutes may show speaker setup, these minutes needs a cut. - Syncing audio and video. Normally there will be audio and video lag. One needs to listen to few minutes of the video and find the lag(+/- few seconds), then use appropriate tool to adjust the audio sync multiple times to get it correct. Doing this for almost 20 talks is tiresome at the end of the day. If above aren't done during the conference, it becomes hard to get it done after conference, as every volunteer is tired and back to work. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Anurag wrote: > Hello, > > I had volunteered for the video management last year and was the best part > for me. > I would love to take up the task this year as well . > > I also agree about giving more time for volunteers to come forward. > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 20:35:40 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 01:05:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > FWIW, the event is in October and we're in February. Precisely my point. Is there some kind of deadline we are looking at to finalize this? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Kracekumar Ramaraju wrote: > > There are few technical issues we face > > - Most of the time captured video requires snip at the start/end. Say the > recording started as soon as speaker is on stage, > then there is some technical issue in setting up laptop. As a result first 1 > - 2 minutes may show speaker setup, these minutes needs a cut. > > - Syncing audio and video. Normally there will be audio and video lag. One > needs to listen to few minutes of the video and find the lag(+/- few > seconds), then use appropriate > tool to adjust the audio sync multiple times to get it correct. Doing this > for almost 20 talks is tiresome at the end of the day. > > If above aren't done during the conference, it becomes hard to get it done > after conference, as every volunteer is tired and back to work. Definitely understandable. In this case wouldn't it make sense to create 2 subteams? 1 for only recording and 1 for only editing? Having one do the other will bring in tiredness but separating them out might help? From jace at pobox.com Wed Feb 18 21:42:18 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:12:18 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Shrayas rajagopal wrote: > Definitely understandable. In this case wouldn't it make sense to > create 2 subteams? 1 for only recording and 1 for only editing? Having > one do the other will bring in tiredness but separating them out might > help? > As I mentioned earlier, Rahul and I were a two person team that did this at JSFoo. I managed the video console and Rahul edited the previous session's videos. Two persons per track is all it takes. (Plus more for standby in case the crew want a break.) Audio-Video sync is a problem only if you don't measure the lag in advance. Add one hour to setup time to get this right (in reality, just 5-10 minutes for properly trained crew.) Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 05:16:26 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:46:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > Is there some kind of deadline we are looking at to finalize this? > >> Yes we have time to look for options now. Later we don't find any vendor who can support us . If available they charges very very high. We need to decide on all vendor 6 months before so we can concentrate on other activities. > Definitely understandable. In this case wouldn't it make sense to > create 2 subteams? 1 for only recording and 1 for only editing? Having > one do the other will bring in tiredness but separating them out might > help? > > This is exact problem we are having . Last year we didn't find volunteer to do post processing of video and even upload the video on youtube from one person home is not realistic. In short Video volunteering need to be atleast 15 members team(Ideally) In worst case we need minimum 6 volunteer for video capturing and mixing and 3 expert volunteer in post processing and all. Can you give your 7 days for PyCon India as volunteer and lead this task from front and implement ideas. Can you help create team? Note: Video volunteer needs to give at least 7 days available. 2 days(workshop) , 1 day for setup and 1-2 days(post processing). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 07:22:42 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:52:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > As I mentioned earlier, Rahul and I were a two person team that did this at > JSFoo. I managed the video console and Rahul edited the previous session's > videos. Two persons per track is all it takes. (Plus more for standby in > case the crew want a break.) > > Audio-Video sync is a problem only if you don't measure the lag in advance. > Add one hour to setup time to get this right (in reality, just 5-10 minutes > for properly trained crew.) Sounds good to me. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:46 AM, vijay kumar wrote: >>> Yes we have time to look for options now. Later we don't find any vendor >>> who can support us . If available they charges very very high. > We need to decide on all vendor 6 months before so we can concentrate on > other activities. Fair enough. Its a good thing definitely to start early. But we need to also give enough time for volunteers to gather up and show interest in the activity. Vijay, When would you say is a _hard_ deadline for this activity? > This is exact problem we are having . Last year we didn't find volunteer > to do post processing of video and even upload the video on youtube from one > person home is not realistic. How about we give ourselves some leeway of about 1 week for videos to be post processed. We ideally want them to be done on that day itself, but let us just set aside some time to be sure of this. > In short Video volunteering need to be atleast 15 members team(Ideally) > In worst case we need minimum 6 volunteer for video capturing and mixing > and 3 expert volunteer in post processing and all. Has a call for volunteers been sent out? > Can you give your 7 days for PyCon India as volunteer and lead this task > from front and implement ideas. > Can you help create team? As I already said, I would like to take the charge on Open Spaces. I don't want to take up too many tasks and not be able to deliver on them. [...] On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Arvi Krishnaswamy wrote: [...] > Would be good as others have indicated > to ensure there's sufficient time though before which decisions are made so > that there's a call for volunteers, etc as well in parallel while looking at > outside vendors. +1 From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 08:15:08 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:45:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > Vijay, When would you say is a _hard_ deadline for this activity? > >> I need to discuss with other active volunteer. I personally think the sooner is better before we lose track of this.(End of Month) > > How about we give ourselves some leeway of about 1 week for videos to > be post processed. We ideally want them to be done on that day itself, > but let us just set aside some time to be sure of this. > >> That what we do every year. No volunteer come forward for this task, at the end organizer or lead video volunteer need to take on their them to complete alone.(Last year krace did it alone and i think it took more than a week for him do) After Conference is over, all volunteer will be completely exhausted asking to do this task would be unfair but still someone is ready i am the happiest person. Last year we even lost track of take backup from laptops where raw video were stored. Luckily we recalled and took backup immediately.I understand team was very young they were not aware laptops were rented and were suppose to be returned .One mistake we would have lost all the data within no time. stats: only 40-50% of video volunteer come forward who raises their hands in mailing list. > > In short Video volunteering need to be atleast 15 members team(Ideally) > > In worst case we need minimum 6 volunteer for video capturing and mixing > > and 3 expert volunteer in post processing and all. > > Has a call for volunteers been sent out? > >> I think if someone is interested will reply to this thread itself as they are reading this email and expectations. > > > Can you give your 7 days for PyCon India as volunteer and lead this > task > > from front and implement ideas. > > Can you help create team? > > As I already said, I would like to take the charge on Open Spaces. I > don't want to take up too many tasks and not be able to deliver on > them. > > >> I would appreciate if you lead this task as looks like you have few ideas and interested in video management. I think Jaseem/Krace did very good job for open spaces last year we can ask them to lead again and all can share thought to them to take to next level this year. Let me know if you are fine to lead video volunteering. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 08:28:49 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:58:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:45 PM, vijay kumar wrote: >>> I need to discuss with other active volunteer. > I personally think the sooner is better before we lose track of > this.(End of Month) >>> I think if someone is interested will reply to this thread itself as they >>> are reading this email and expectations. With the month end deadline in mind, I think it is better if we send out a dedicated call-for-volunteers email? Listing our clearly the expectations? >>> That what we do every year. > No volunteer come forward for this task, at the end organizer or lead > video volunteer need to take on their them to complete alone.(Last year > krace did it alone and i think it took more than a week for him do) > After Conference is over, all volunteer will be completely exhausted > asking to do this task would be unfair but still someone is ready i am the > happiest person. > > Last year we even lost track of take backup from laptops where raw video > were stored. Luckily we recalled and took backup immediately.I understand > team was very young they were not aware laptops were rented and were suppose > to be returned .One mistake we would have lost all the data within no time. > > stats: only 40-50% of video volunteer come forward who raises their hands in > mailing list. > I see. The expectation has to be set clearly and this has to be their *only* task. Like Kiran mentioned, a 2 man team handled all of the JSFoo videos which is proof enough that this _can_ be done by us too. Its just that someone needs to be as dedicated as them towards this. Instead of starting the trainings close to the event, we can space out the trainings over the forthcoming months so that it is easier for the volunteers to take time out and learn the concepts as well. Since HasGeek also looks for volunteers to run parts of their conferences, their upcoming conferences can also be utilized by the volunteers to learn the techniques better. @Kiran, thoughts on this? >>> I would appreciate if you lead this task as looks like you have few ideas >>> and interested in video management. > Let me know if you are fine to lead video volunteering. It is very hard for me to do this because i'm not in the city. I live in Chennai and just moved to a newer job so I can't come over for trainings, etc. It would be better if a bangalore based volunteer drives this instead of me. > I think Jaseem/Krace did very good job for open spaces last year we can ask > them to lead again and all can share thought to them to take to next level > this year. Last year Jaseem and Krace took up the open spaces organization at the last minute since I had to back out of it (due to personal reasons). My extreme gratitude to them for doing this at such short notice. I'm actually very keen on helping with organizing that along with them this year and making it better. From anurag3rdsep at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 08:52:44 2015 From: anurag3rdsep at gmail.com (Anurag) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:22:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I think everyone missed out the first time when I raised my hand in this discussion. Or may be my mail was not delivered. I will like to work on video management this year as well and I am from Bangalore as well. As of last year I don't think anyone circulated the information about post processing work. There were teams formed and post processing was assigned to two people. I would have helped had I known Krace was handling this alone. I was there till the last moment at Nimhans, don't know how I missed this. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gangulysubhajit63 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 09:09:05 2015 From: gangulysubhajit63 at gmail.com (Subhajit Gangly) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:39:05 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] India Open Data Summit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87123091-6A15-45AD-ABE8-155074B2FFF6@gmail.com> Sent from my iPad > On 17-Feb-2015, at 11:25 am, Subhajit Ganguly wrote: > > Hi Friends, > > Open Knowledge India is organizing the India Open Data Summit on February 28, 2015. This year?s event is free for anyone to attend. There will be talks and workshops relating to Open Data, Open Science, Open Research and Open Education. The thrust this year will be on creating a sustainable and viable citizen driven, crowd sourced environment for Open Data. You are most cordially invited to the event. See you there! > > The event is intended to be a melting pot of ideas. > > Venue: Indumati Sabhagriha, Jadavpur University, Kolkata-700029. > Date: 28/02/2015 Time:10:30am > Anyone* can attend the event for free and there is no provision for tickets. However, seats are limited and therefore, it will be wise to come early to the venue and register your name. Register at venue. > > Please, find attached the formal invitation letter to the event. Do not forget to save a copy. > > Regards and Best Wishes, > > Subhajit Ganguly. > > Open Knowledge India > > > > > > *If required, the organisers will have the right to deny entry to anyone, whose presence they find to be detrimental to the smooth functioning of the event. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Thu Feb 19 09:22:53 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:52:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Anurag wrote: > Hello, > > I think everyone missed out the first time when I raised my hand in this > discussion. Or may be my mail was not delivered. > > I will like to work on video management this year as well and I am from > Bangalore as well. > > As of last year I don't think anyone circulated the information about post > processing work. There were teams formed and post processing was assigned > to two people. > I would have helped had I known Krace was handling this alone. > Truth is I wasn't handling any part of video :-) Let's not get into who is supposed to do and who missed it. > I was there till the last moment at Nimhans, don't know how I missed this. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could you send out the original one ? - -- Regards, - --Anand - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU5aRBAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDAQsIAI5CPryqHHzQBchNfzDT8jt7 UioDAdqroIT37kyuRXwUfYEsifMaS9EnxpRaFfeL2N6D1K9yUYUUJryhhN6ooqm6 9MXkpC9yvL35p562vv5qb9xc09HySdoXGuGzzJakLf7FAsRevfbxzWrGqCC4YA0N QNyWBixd2YwQxmgQFqgmHbVTlTrACeilwApnEKBCVW/LbsPO73gV31uqNTeASRUX MD//plME2ovobDjg5qhaVadw4rhmh5W3w/0hHq3JGRbur5hK2bTK0k2KHGXBOXd5 zdgcxLs+HhbM4mmJid5EsomRYpenM9jUiL8iYuih+baIh2otA/eAC6PM51AzR8o= =vNUV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shrayasr at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 10:11:51 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:41:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Anurag wrote: [...] > I will like to work on video management this year as well and I am from > Bangalore as well. [...] Great. Since you were a part of the team last year, i'm sure you have your own ideas of how to run the show better this year. It would be great you'd like to take charge of leading a team of volunteers in association with HasGeek (since they've already said they are willing to help out this year as well) to get the show running. Sound good? From anandpillai at letterboxes.org Thu Feb 19 10:16:53 2015 From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:46:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54E5AA05.1060801@letterboxes.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 19 February 2015 02:41 PM, Shrayas rajagopal wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Anurag > wrote: > > [...] > >> I will like to work on video management this year as well and I >> am from Bangalore as well. > > [...] > > Great. Since you were a part of the team last year, i'm sure you > have your own ideas of how to run the show better this year. It > would be great you'd like to take charge of leading a team of > volunteers in association with HasGeek (since they've already said > they are willing to help out this year as well) to get the show > running. > > Sound good? I think the conference chair should make the final decision on this though suggestions and feedback is always good. > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing > list Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > - -- Regards, - --Anand - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Architect/Consultant anandpillai at letterboxes.org Cell: +919880078014 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU5aoFAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDjp8H/2xmXdVKCjDzBNnS8Nn0iABh Mnu/94l5wekUXqvBe1dyEB7tNGsKFU1IBYUIMJ6xHbe5+Si0flLcp995ewSYQu+k yiboKGryNfqtjeokCfO7aCcOuT0StJTi0Ys1xePyLuKE2VFDZftKYtiwbHxY7Oej vs5tPPwfuPDMy4TPaOGZ9gwv8Yml+egPhnIN0JoAq0Hc+0azuRSjxTiP0SVm0vtL kzQPRlI72EzuKxqa+Lypoa/G8oh6fbFZzZ6cG/f4yjPMMyd5LlHFZy+Rg8n30hZw 5Xhl+vbO5JOv4h7TQAVbXcnfyet/hrUQaufUrXoijekp2GgotA/7ol2UWoJAq9s= =w16H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From anurag3rdsep at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 10:22:01 2015 From: anurag3rdsep at gmail.com (Anurag) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:52:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Great. Since you were a part of the team last year, i'm sure you have > your own ideas of how to run the show better this year. It would be > great you'd like to take charge of leading a team of volunteers in > association with HasGeek (since they've already said they are willing > to help out this year as well) to get the show running. > > Sound good? > ok, I am up for it. It would be nice if Kiran could allow me to volunteer at couple of events (organized by hasgeek) before Pycon. In that way I can get a better knowledge of equipments/process involved. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[...] From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 11:38:20 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:08:20 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Right now we have two options 1) Out source and be relaxed and concentrate on other important Task. - There can be problem of mixer but not blocker. we can discuss with them and see if they can get two camera per Audi to capture Speaker and Slides and later on mix and give it to us. 2) Take Hasgeek support on video equipment, - For this we need a team of 15 or more which looks to biggest challenge. - Not sure if Hasgeek would handover expensive equipment to fresh volunteers. - In case of damage to any equipment who will be responsible (Volunteer or PyCon India team) Before we go and call for volunteer to support for Video Equipment management, let's wait and see if any other suggestions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That way, there's an opportunity for new people to help with something important and if it's not taking off, we still have something that will work. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From jace at pobox.com Thu Feb 19 12:24:30 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:54:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:08 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > 1) Out source and be relaxed and concentrate on other important Task. > - There can be problem of mixer but not blocker. > we can discuss with them and see if they can get two camera per > Audi to capture Speaker and Slides and later on mix and give it to us. > Vijay, you should also consider the outsourced party's expertise. Pointing a camera at the screen will get you washed out colours. They need to capture video direct from the presenter's laptop to get good quality. Do these people know how to do that? In my experience, most camera crews only know how to point a camera somewhere and press the record button. You can do this with a single volunteer and a borrowed camera and get the exact same quality without spending Rs 40,000. So the questions are: 1. Are these people capable of maintaining the quality PyCon already has, and 2. If they are, is this quality still coming at Rs 40,000 a day? My estimate is that to get HasGeek quality you'll spend Rs 1 lakh per day. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 12:46:43 2015 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:16:43 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > 1. Are these people capable of maintaining the quality PyCon already has, > >>Video quality is good. The one question is mixing . I recall he said us in call he will do live mixing . Will double check. This let us with two question 1) Is video blocker for PyCon India ? 2) Is video quality biggest criteria for PyCon India ? > My estimate is that to get HasGeek quality you'll spend Rs 1 lakh per day. > >> Thanks for input this will help in decision making. > -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 12:57:27 2015 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:27:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:16 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > Video quality is good. The one question is mixing . > I recall he said us in call he will do live mixing . Will double check. Post processing forms a very important part of the entire video process. I didn't find this to be good with the Functional Conf videos. To illustrate, check out the first few seconds of this[1] video - It is completely dark. Or this[2] video where the speaker repeatedly is looking at the slides but it is just uncomfortable since we don't see the slides when he is. This is IMO completely unacceptable. > This let us with two question > 1) Is video blocker for PyCon India ? > 2) Is video quality biggest criteria for PyCon India ? It isn't the biggest criteria but it *is* important. We have already set a standard with last years videos and it is important for us to maintain this. Having this output from PyCon will show the level of seriousness that we put in and the professionalism that we aim for. [...] --- Footnotes: [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGCE_3fjzU4 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmtKJ35N-TA From sree at mahiti.org Thu Feb 19 13:11:24 2015 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:41:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: <87sie2godi.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> References: <87sie2godi.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On 19 February 2015 at 16:27, Noufal Ibrahim KV wrote: > Find someone who can lead the video effort and set a deadline (say a > month) for assembling a team. If this person can find enough volunteers > (with a few extras for emergencies) and coordinate them into a team that > can coordinate with Hasgeek to do the recording, it would be best. Once > people are available, they can stretch out the work a little . > > If the team is not in place by the deadline, then fall back to out > sourcing. > +1. Lets do this. Also is there any statistics on Video downloads/ views? 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URL: From jace at pobox.com Thu Feb 19 13:54:00 2015 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:24:00 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:16 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > >>Video quality is good. The one question is mixing . > I recall he said us in call he will do live mixing . Will double check. > That requires a matrix video switcher with picture-in-picture capability. A HD/P-i-P switcher costs 4 lakhs at the low-end and typical daily rental is 5-10% of retail price, so that's Rs 20-40k per day for the switcher alone. That's definitely not what you are getting at 40k per day overall. Instead, it will be an SD switcher that does PAL/NTSC resolutions, so you are going to be downsampling the presenter's screen from 1024x768 down to about 720x480. At that resolution, you can read slides with large fonts, but not code. Also, capture cards are mostly HDMI these days, so this SD switcher can't take input from a capture card. It will be a camera pointing at the screen and the quality will be horrible. One of the reasons HD switchers are so expensive is that HD means multiple things: 720 vs 1080 pixels, interlaced vs progressive, and 50 fps vs 60 fps. That's six different combinations, and the switcher needs to be able to consume any two and output to a third. 1080p 60fps is desirable, but you'll usually have to settle for 720p 25fps to keep it affordable. The HasGeek process uses a desktop computer instead of a hardware switcher. The downside is that video has a lag (150-650 ms) and is not suitable for playing back live, but the costs are a fraction. I'm yet to find a video vendor who's worked out this approach, even though it seems so obvious in retrospect. If this vendor has figured it out, that is great news, but it doesn't look like it judging from the FuConf videos. 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URL: From me at kracekumar.com Thu Feb 19 15:01:57 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:31:57 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Video Management in PyCon India 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <87sie2godi.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > On 19 February 2015 at 16:27, Noufal Ibrahim KV > wrote: > >> Find someone who can lead the video effort and set a deadline (say a >> month) for assembling a team. If this person can find enough volunteers >> (with a few extras for emergencies) and coordinate them into a team that >> can coordinate with Hasgeek to do the recording, it would be best. Once >> people are available, they can stretch out the work a little . >> >> If the team is not in place by the deadline, then fall back to out >> sourcing. >> > > +1. Lets do this. > > Also is there any statistics on Video downloads/ views? That will be > useful for decision making too. > PyCon India 2014 Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6GW05BfqWIfX0-YkKI7Ge5f9IKjOxirf Following is the list of tuple containing total views, average audience retention(minutes:seconds) for past 365 days views_retention_combo = [(95, 1:27), (229, 5:58), (41, 5:47), (93, 4:47), (56, 2:16), (27, 2:40), (43, 4:05), (16, 5:00), (62, 3:40), (20, 1:54), (35, 6:19), (128, 3:50), (39, 4:11), (309, 8:11), (33, 5:03), (50, 1:55), (89, 3:12), (29, 4:40), (40, 3:37), (574, 8:04), (100, 2:44), (42, 1:57), (206, 6:45), (73, 10.00)] We have 576 subscribers. - sree > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it almost the same if we query for >> downloads till 15th Feb? >> - sree >> > > ?I think this is just data from end Sep through now for the 2014 edition > (and not earlier editions)? > > Yes, data is for 2014 edition. Any one can see total views by visiting the particular video link. Audience retention, devices etc can be viewed only by admin. -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Fri Feb 20 12:46:31 2015 From: me at kracekumar.com (Kracekumar Ramaraju) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:16:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2015 website early view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > On 17 February 2015 at 00:54, Kracekumar Ramaraju > wrote: > >> We have come up with PyCon India 2015 website, >> http://pycon.pssi.org.in/2015/. The site contains venue , sponsorship >> details etc ... This is an early release. Please feel free to share the >> feedback. >> > > Will be nice if sponsorships are not shown using tabbed interface. Suggest > that they appear one row per sponsorship tier. > - sree > > We have updated this and some ui niceties to sponsorship page http://in.pycon.org/2015/sponsorship.html. > > -- > Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > Executive Director > Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise > > Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 > Mobile: +91 98455 12611 > www.mahiti.org > www.mahiti-infotech.com > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards Kracekumar Ramaraju http://kracekumar.com +91 85530 29521 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you had a chance to write to pycon.org people to change the dns, for in.pycon.org to be CNAME to pycon.pssi.org.in? Dig still returns this: $ dig in.pycon.org ;; ANSWER SECTION: in.pycon.org. 6000 IN CNAME pycon.anandology.com. pycon.anandology.com. 86400 IN A 205.147.96.46 > > >> Can you do the needful to CNAME in.pycon.org to pycon.pssi.org by >> writing to PSF folks? >> Email server is yet to be setup, will update MX record once done. >> > > Sure, will ping them once the dumps are migrated. > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- -Best Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: