[Inpycon] Tutorials

[vijay]

My Take on tutorial
1) Let say it as workshop then tutorial.( we need to even provide list of thing they need to bring  to avoid complaint as last year)
2) I would say keep price to 1000 as this itself will be more for student( we need more student to attend). For corporate let make there fee to be 1500 rupees.
3) As we have big enough hall why restrict number ?. If we strictly want to restrict then let have 50 as it will help trainer and pycon both.
4) About selection of trainer we need to looks for their presentation skill/ previous experience rather then putting criteria no first time.

With Thanks
Vijay



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 From: konark modi <modi.konark at gmail.com>
To: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> 
Cc: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org> 
Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Tutorials
 


I agree with both of you.

While the idea here is to improve the quality of talks / workshops we need to bridge the gap between submitting proposal and delivering the talk, and certainly not making it a mandate but instead for people who are looking for some sort of guidance / mentoring .

If local groups (which apparently are not that active apart from few cities) can help out, would be great. But was just proposing an idea if we could think of a way out of getting this thing under the Umbrella of PyCon India.

Regards
Konark








On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:


>While a good idea, I don't think *helping* people with presentations falls
>into the conference agenda.
>
>It's probably something that fits in very well with local user groups
>though. They can hold this kind of thing to polish talks and get them
>out.
>
>
>konark modi <modi.konark at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where
>> willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas
>> they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but
>> unable to frame an idea around it .
>>
>>  The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how
>> can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk / tutorial
>> for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at
>> previous PyCon and how they can be different.
>>
>> Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve
>> content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing the
>> session.
>>
>> Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not
>> needed to  deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how they
>> are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback  to help them
>> manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better.
>>
>> Interesting group : http://speakup.io/
>>
>> Regards
>> Konark Modi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think*
>>>> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage
>>>> > them to attend any.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and
>>>> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough
>>>> > volunteers free for that.
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> We need to clarify this.
>>>>
>>>> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced
>>>> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not
>>>> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on
>>>> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to
>>>> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people
>>>> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving
>>>> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the
>>>> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is
>>>> similarly good, it'll be a success.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a
>>>> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I
>>>> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along
>>>> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do
>>>> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that
>>>> "everyone" can attend.
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Anand
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>Noufal
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