From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue May 1 15:22:16 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 18:52:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Here's one sponsorship proposal as a starter (Note: formatting will look appropriate only in case of monospace font) Platinum Gold Silver Community$ 400000 200000 100000 35000$ Full time Staffed Informational Booth ?$ Branding on Collateral Folder (will contain other A4 collaterals) ?$ Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge ?$ Side informational talks (tutorial days) ? ?$ Logo on Posters ? ?$ Roll Up Banners (one in each hall + 2 more at other locations) ? ?$ Logo on Swag Bag ? ?$ Description on Pycon India Site ? ? ?$ GiveAways in the Kit (at cost to Sponsor) ? ? ?$ Logo on Pycon India Site ? ? ? ?$ One A4 Collateral in delegate kit (composed / printed by sponsor) ? ? ? ?$ Conference Passes 8 4 2 1$ The proposal here is only a starter. To explain some of the objectives which probably merit discussion (since the exact proposals can be fine tuned consistent with these objectives), a) This factors the realisation that going forward, as pycon india has to grow, either the gate fees need to rise or the sponsorship amounts need to. The assumption being that gate fees cover only variable costs, thus leading to a substantial burden on the overall sponsorship requirement. b) The attempt has been to make the package more sponsor friendly without in any way diluting the technical quality. Thus side informational talks are proposed, but these are left to the sponsors and are not a part of the technical stream. c) The attempt also has been to make the delegate kit more substantial by allowing sponsors to contribute directly in terms of one A4 collateral and at least one give away that the sponsor can decide and contribute (this would be in addition to the sponsorship fees). This also helps establish a more direct connect between the attendee and sponsor, something sponsors are likely to appreciate. d) Roll up banners can help sponsors have more direct control over their branding and their message. e) Information booth allows a specific direct interaction. Thats something that is a feature of many conferences. These could also be offered independently, but I am not too sure about it. f) The only upper limit on sponsorship slabs I think makes sense is "1" for platinum (just for the exclusivity it provides. The rest should not be covered by an upper limit in terms of count of sponsors since we should be able to extend the facilities as suggested to many sponsors. The goal isn't to really make tons of money. But the goal is to move towards a scenario where Pycon India can eventually host itself from convention centers if need be. Which means the goal indeed is to be able to attract larger sponsorship support from the companies and community towards such a growth path. To comment specifically on Noufal's mail earlier in this thread, I am not sure how convenient it would be to sell modular packages to sponsors. I have a feeling it would be easier to offer and sell slabs in this context but we can have a discussion on the matter. My fear is that modular offerings (offering specific features for specific sponsorship amounts and allowing people to pick and choose) might tend to confuse. In the proposal above I have been struggling to provide the "extra" oomph for the platinum slab but haven't been able to come out with something attractive yet. If we can find something else, we could open up the information booths to the gold slab sponsors, since a few more booths (as opposed to just 1) might be a little better. Open for comments. I have many more thoughts and suggestions, but thought its better to kick off the discussion with the sponsorship matter. I expect to raise a few more points in mails that follow. Dhananjay On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > I suggest following chanages to above slabs: > > Platinum Sponsor (1 no.) :2,00,000/- > Gold Sponsor (3 no.): 1,20,000/- > Silver Sponsor(8 no.): 70,000/- > > We had silver sponsor slot fill fast last year, so its better to provision more. > Also, I feel keeping rates same as last year is not correct. > - sree > > > > On 20 April 2012 02:08, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >> Jaidev Deshpande writes: >> >> > Hi Noufal, >> > >> > Just asking, >> > >> >> 4 Foreign sponsors >> >> ------------------- >> >> ?- This will require that they directly handle a certain aspect of >> >> ? ?the the conference without involving the IPSS. >> >> ?- Two things are possible. >> >> ? ?- Food : Directly pay caterers - 315000 (450 per day * 700 expected delegates) >> >> ? ?- Foreign delegate : Directly pay hotel and air fare. (150000 per person) >> > >> > Food - Rs 450 / day? Isn't that the total food cost for per delegate? >> >> [...] >> >> Sorry. My bad. I meant 150 per day per person. That's 450 per person for >> a 3 day event. >> >> >> -- >> ~noufal >> http://nibrahim.net.in >> >> Gentlemen, I want you to know that I am not always right, but I am never wrong. -Samuel Goldwyn >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > -- > Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > Executive Director > Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > "OpenSpace", #583, > Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, > Nagawara, Veerannapalya, > Bangalore, India - 560043 > Phone:? +91 80 3094 9393 > Mobile:? +91 98455 12611 > www.mahiti.org > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue May 1 15:28:01 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 18:58:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Sorry .. the 80 char word wrap destroyed all formatting. Hoping the text below works. (fingers crossed) P G S C 4 2 1 0.35 Lakhs Full time Staffed Informational Booth x Branding on Collateral Folder (will contain other A4 collaterals) x Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge x Side informational talks (tutorial days) x x Logo on Posters x x Roll Up Banners (1 in each hall + 2 more at other locations) x x Logo on Swag Bag x x Description on Pycon India Site x x x GiveAways in the Kit (at cost to Sponsor) x x x Logo on Pycon India Site x x x x One A4 Collateral in delegate kit (composed / printed by sponsor) x x x x Conference Passes 8 4 2 1 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > Here's one sponsorship proposal as a starter (Note: formatting will > look appropriate only in case of monospace font) > > > Platinum ? ?Gold ? ?Silver ?Community$ > > 400000 ? ? ?200000 ?100000 ?35000$ > Full time Staffed Informational Booth ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Branding on Collateral Folder (will contain other A4 collaterals) ?$ > Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??$ > Side informational talks (tutorial days) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Logo on Posters ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Roll Up Banners (one in each hall + 2 more at other locations) ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Logo on Swag Bag ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Description on Pycon India Site ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > GiveAways in the Kit (at cost to Sponsor) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Logo on Pycon India Site ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > One A4 Collateral in delegate kit (composed / printed by sponsor) ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?$ > Conference Passes ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8 > ? ? ? 4 ? ? ? 2 ? ? ? 1$ > > > The proposal here is only a starter. To explain some of the objectives > which probably merit discussion (since the exact proposals can be fine > tuned consistent with these objectives), > > a) This factors the realisation that going forward, as pycon india has > to grow, either the gate fees need to rise or the sponsorship amounts > need to. The assumption being that gate fees cover only variable > costs, thus leading to a substantial burden on the overall sponsorship > requirement. > b) The attempt has been to make the package more sponsor friendly > without in any way diluting the technical quality. Thus side > informational talks are proposed, but these are left to the sponsors > and are not a part of the technical stream. > c) The attempt also has been to make the delegate kit more substantial > by allowing sponsors to contribute directly in terms of one A4 > collateral and at least one give away that the sponsor can decide and > contribute (this would be in addition to the sponsorship fees). This > also helps establish a more direct connect between the attendee and > sponsor, something sponsors are likely to appreciate. > d) Roll up banners can help sponsors have more direct control over > their branding and their message. > e) Information booth allows a specific direct interaction. Thats > something that is a feature of many conferences. These could also be > offered independently, but I am not too sure about it. > f) The only upper limit on sponsorship slabs I think makes sense is > "1" for platinum (just for the exclusivity it provides. The rest > should not be covered by an upper limit in terms of count of sponsors > since we should be able to extend the facilities as suggested to many > sponsors. > > The goal isn't to really make tons of money. But the goal is to move > towards a scenario where Pycon India can eventually host itself from > convention centers if need be. Which means the goal indeed is to be > able to attract larger sponsorship support from the companies and > community towards such a growth path. > > To comment specifically on Noufal's mail earlier in this thread, I am > not sure how convenient it would be to sell modular packages to > sponsors. I have a feeling it would be easier to offer and sell slabs > in this context but we can have a discussion on the matter. My fear is > that modular offerings (offering specific features for specific > sponsorship amounts and allowing people to pick and choose) might tend > to confuse. > > In the proposal above I have been struggling to provide the "extra" > oomph for the platinum slab but haven't been able to come out with > something attractive yet. If we can find something else, we could open > up the information booths to the gold slab sponsors, since a few more > booths (as opposed to just 1) might be a little better. > > Open for comments. > > I have many more thoughts and suggestions, but thought its better to > kick off the discussion with the sponsorship matter. I expect to raise > a few more points in mails that follow. > > Dhananjay > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: >> >> I suggest following chanages to above slabs: >> >> Platinum Sponsor (1 no.) :2,00,000/- >> Gold Sponsor (3 no.): 1,20,000/- >> Silver Sponsor(8 no.): 70,000/- >> >> We had silver sponsor slot fill fast last year, so its better to provision more. >> Also, I feel keeping rates same as last year is not correct. >> - sree >> >> >> >> On 20 April 2012 02:08, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>> >>> Jaidev Deshpande writes: >>> >>> > Hi Noufal, >>> > >>> > Just asking, >>> > >>> >> 4 Foreign sponsors >>> >> ------------------- >>> >> ?- This will require that they directly handle a certain aspect of >>> >> ? ?the the conference without involving the IPSS. >>> >> ?- Two things are possible. >>> >> ? ?- Food : Directly pay caterers - 315000 (450 per day * 700 expected delegates) >>> >> ? ?- Foreign delegate : Directly pay hotel and air fare. (150000 per person) >>> > >>> > Food - Rs 450 / day? Isn't that the total food cost for per delegate? >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> Sorry. My bad. I meant 150 per day per person. That's 450 per person for >>> a 3 day event. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~noufal >>> http://nibrahim.net.in >>> >>> Gentlemen, I want you to know that I am not always right, but I am never wrong. -Samuel Goldwyn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah >> Executive Director >> Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. >> "OpenSpace", #583, >> Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, >> Nagawara, Veerannapalya, >> Bangalore, India - 560043 >> Phone:? +91 80 3094 9393 >> Mobile:? +91 98455 12611 >> www.mahiti.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene From sree at mahiti.org Fri May 4 09:12:52 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 12:42:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, I suggest, P-3, G-1.5, S-0.9 Suggest holding C for a later date(price is good). - sree On 1 May 2012 18:58, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > Sorry .. the 80 char word wrap destroyed all formatting. Hoping the > text below works. (fingers crossed) > > P G S C > 4 2 1 0.35 Lakhs > Full time Staffed > Informational Booth x > Branding on Collateral Folder > (will contain other A4 collaterals) x > Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge x > Side informational talks > (tutorial days) x x > Logo on Posters x x > Roll Up Banners (1 in each hall + > 2 more at other locations) x x > Logo on Swag Bag x x > Description on Pycon India Site x x x > GiveAways in the Kit > (at cost to Sponsor) x x x > Logo on Pycon India Site x x x x > One A4 Collateral in delegate kit > (composed / printed by sponsor) x x x x > Conference Passes 8 4 2 1 > > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dhananjay Nene > wrote: > > Here's one sponsorship proposal as a starter (Note: formatting will > > look appropriate only in case of monospace font) > > > > > > Platinum Gold Silver Community$ > > > > 400000 200000 100000 35000$ > > Full time Staffed Informational Booth ?$ > > Branding on Collateral Folder (will contain other A4 collaterals) ?$ > > Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge ?$ > > Side informational talks (tutorial days) ? > ?$ > > Logo on Posters ? > ?$ > > Roll Up Banners (one in each hall + 2 more at other locations) ? > ?$ > > Logo on Swag Bag ? > ?$ > > Description on Pycon India Site ? > > ? ?$ > > GiveAways in the Kit (at cost to Sponsor) ? > > ? ?$ > > Logo on Pycon India Site ? > > ? ? ?$ > > One A4 Collateral in delegate kit (composed / printed by sponsor) ? > > ? ? ?$ > > Conference Passes 8 > > 4 2 1$ > > > > > > The proposal here is only a starter. To explain some of the objectives > > which probably merit discussion (since the exact proposals can be fine > > tuned consistent with these objectives), > > > > a) This factors the realisation that going forward, as pycon india has > > to grow, either the gate fees need to rise or the sponsorship amounts > > need to. The assumption being that gate fees cover only variable > > costs, thus leading to a substantial burden on the overall sponsorship > > requirement. > > b) The attempt has been to make the package more sponsor friendly > > without in any way diluting the technical quality. Thus side > > informational talks are proposed, but these are left to the sponsors > > and are not a part of the technical stream. > > c) The attempt also has been to make the delegate kit more substantial > > by allowing sponsors to contribute directly in terms of one A4 > > collateral and at least one give away that the sponsor can decide and > > contribute (this would be in addition to the sponsorship fees). This > > also helps establish a more direct connect between the attendee and > > sponsor, something sponsors are likely to appreciate. > > d) Roll up banners can help sponsors have more direct control over > > their branding and their message. > > e) Information booth allows a specific direct interaction. Thats > > something that is a feature of many conferences. These could also be > > offered independently, but I am not too sure about it. > > f) The only upper limit on sponsorship slabs I think makes sense is > > "1" for platinum (just for the exclusivity it provides. The rest > > should not be covered by an upper limit in terms of count of sponsors > > since we should be able to extend the facilities as suggested to many > > sponsors. > > > > The goal isn't to really make tons of money. But the goal is to move > > towards a scenario where Pycon India can eventually host itself from > > convention centers if need be. Which means the goal indeed is to be > > able to attract larger sponsorship support from the companies and > > community towards such a growth path. > > > > To comment specifically on Noufal's mail earlier in this thread, I am > > not sure how convenient it would be to sell modular packages to > > sponsors. I have a feeling it would be easier to offer and sell slabs > > in this context but we can have a discussion on the matter. My fear is > > that modular offerings (offering specific features for specific > > sponsorship amounts and allowing people to pick and choose) might tend > > to confuse. > > > > In the proposal above I have been struggling to provide the "extra" > > oomph for the platinum slab but haven't been able to come out with > > something attractive yet. If we can find something else, we could open > > up the information booths to the gold slab sponsors, since a few more > > booths (as opposed to just 1) might be a little better. > > > > Open for comments. > > > > I have many more thoughts and suggestions, but thought its better to > > kick off the discussion with the sponsorship matter. I expect to raise > > a few more points in mails that follow. > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > wrote: > >> > >> I suggest following chanages to above slabs: > >> > >> Platinum Sponsor (1 no.) :2,00,000/- > >> Gold Sponsor (3 no.): 1,20,000/- > >> Silver Sponsor(8 no.): 70,000/- > >> > >> We had silver sponsor slot fill fast last year, so its better to > provision more. > >> Also, I feel keeping rates same as last year is not correct. > >> - sree > >> > >> > >> > >> On 20 April 2012 02:08, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >>> > >>> Jaidev Deshpande writes: > >>> > >>> > Hi Noufal, > >>> > > >>> > Just asking, > >>> > > >>> >> 4 Foreign sponsors > >>> >> ------------------- > >>> >> - This will require that they directly handle a certain aspect of > >>> >> the the conference without involving the IPSS. > >>> >> - Two things are possible. > >>> >> - Food : Directly pay caterers - 315000 (450 per day * 700 > expected delegates) > >>> >> - Foreign delegate : Directly pay hotel and air fare. (150000 > per person) > >>> > > >>> > Food - Rs 450 / day? Isn't that the total food cost for per delegate? > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Sorry. My bad. I meant 150 per day per person. That's 450 per person > for > >>> a 3 day event. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ~noufal > >>> http://nibrahim.net.in > >>> > >>> Gentlemen, I want you to know that I am not always right, but I am > never wrong. -Samuel Goldwyn > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Inpycon mailing list > >>> Inpycon at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > >> Executive Director > >> Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > >> "OpenSpace", #583, > >> Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, > >> Nagawara, Veerannapalya, > >> Bangalore, India - 560043 > >> Phone: +91 80 3094 9393 > >> Mobile: +91 98455 12611 > >> www.mahiti.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inpycon mailing list > >> Inpycon at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: > > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene > -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. 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Thanks --Anand On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Dhananjay Nene writes: > > > [...] > > > I would like to contribute on the sponsorship packages front. Have not > > been able to review the information Noufal has sent. Unfortunately > > spending almost every waking hour on a task that finishes this > > 24th. Would request that I get some time to review it and revert 25th > > night. I noticed some comments about there being a upper limit on the > > number of sponsorship packages. Just as an example I had strongly felt > > any such limits are likely to be counterproductive. I shall help push > > forward the overall sponsorship discussion post 25th. > > [...] > > Makes sense. > > I didn't incorporate the collated feedback which you sent from last > years event. I just wanted to get the ball rolling. My main reason for > the modular thing was that people have specific needs and we price > things based on their popularity. They get to pick and choose, we throw > in a few freebies based on how much they're giving us and it's a > sponsorship package. They also have some control on exactly how much > they want to spend. > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > We must believe in free will. We have no choice. -Isaac B. Singer > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Thu May 10 11:31:26 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:01:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pulling back. In-Reply-To: References: <87mx67wjyc.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87wr5bufqg.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Hi Noufal, > > ????????????? Sorry to see you take a back-seat. > > I just wanted to point out that we are almost in mid-May and I don't see > much > activity yet on this mailing list. > > Is there another place that everything is happening ? Some pune related > mailing list perhaps ? If so kindly let this list know because there are > still > a few of us keyed in here looking for updates. None that I am aware of. > > Thanks > > --Anand > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >> Dhananjay Nene writes: >> >> >> [...] >> >> > I would like to contribute on the sponsorship packages front. Have not >> > been able to review the information Noufal has sent. Unfortunately >> > spending almost every waking hour on a task that finishes this >> > 24th. Would request that I get some time to review it and revert 25th >> > night. I noticed some comments about there being a upper limit on the >> > number of sponsorship packages. Just as an example I had strongly felt >> > any such limits are likely to be counterproductive. I shall help push >> > forward the overall sponsorship discussion post 25th. >> >> [...] >> >> Makes sense. >> >> I didn't incorporate the collated feedback which you sent from last >> years event. I just wanted to get the ball rolling. My main reason for >> the modular thing was that people have specific needs and we price >> things based on their popularity. They get to pick and choose, we throw >> in a few freebies based on how much they're giving us and it's a >> sponsorship package. They also have some control on exactly how much >> they want to spend. >> >> >> -- >> ~noufal >> http://nibrahim.net.in >> >> We must believe in free will. We have no choice. -Isaac B. Singer >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > -- > Regards, > > --Anand > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Mon May 14 10:09:03 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:39:03 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Sree, Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the same. Dhananjay On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > Hi, > I suggest, P-3, G-1.5, S-0.9 > Suggest holding C for a later date(price is good). > - sree > > On 1 May 2012 18:58, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > >> Sorry .. the 80 char word wrap destroyed all formatting. Hoping the >> text below works. (fingers crossed) >> >> P G S C >> 4 2 1 0.35 Lakhs >> Full time Staffed >> Informational Booth x >> Branding on Collateral Folder >> (will contain other A4 collaterals) x >> Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge x >> Side informational talks >> (tutorial days) x x >> Logo on Posters x x >> Roll Up Banners (1 in each hall + >> 2 more at other locations) x x >> Logo on Swag Bag x x >> Description on Pycon India Site x x x >> GiveAways in the Kit >> (at cost to Sponsor) x x x >> Logo on Pycon India Site x x x x >> One A4 Collateral in delegate kit >> (composed / printed by sponsor) x x x x >> Conference Passes 8 4 2 1 >> >> >> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dhananjay Nene >> wrote: >> > Here's one sponsorship proposal as a starter (Note: formatting will >> > look appropriate only in case of monospace font) >> > >> > >> > Platinum Gold Silver Community$ >> > >> > 400000 200000 100000 35000$ >> > Full time Staffed Informational Booth ?$ >> > Branding on Collateral Folder (will contain other A4 collaterals) ?$ >> > Logo placement on Lanyard / ID badge ?$ >> > Side informational talks (tutorial days) ? >> ?$ >> > Logo on Posters ? >> ?$ >> > Roll Up Banners (one in each hall + 2 more at other locations) ? >> ?$ >> > Logo on Swag Bag ? >> ?$ >> > Description on Pycon India Site ? >> > ? ?$ >> > GiveAways in the Kit (at cost to Sponsor) ? >> > ? ?$ >> > Logo on Pycon India Site ? >> > ? ? ?$ >> > One A4 Collateral in delegate kit (composed / printed by sponsor) ? >> > ? ? ?$ >> > Conference Passes 8 >> > 4 2 1$ >> > >> > >> > The proposal here is only a starter. To explain some of the objectives >> > which probably merit discussion (since the exact proposals can be fine >> > tuned consistent with these objectives), >> > >> > a) This factors the realisation that going forward, as pycon india has >> > to grow, either the gate fees need to rise or the sponsorship amounts >> > need to. The assumption being that gate fees cover only variable >> > costs, thus leading to a substantial burden on the overall sponsorship >> > requirement. >> > b) The attempt has been to make the package more sponsor friendly >> > without in any way diluting the technical quality. Thus side >> > informational talks are proposed, but these are left to the sponsors >> > and are not a part of the technical stream. >> > c) The attempt also has been to make the delegate kit more substantial >> > by allowing sponsors to contribute directly in terms of one A4 >> > collateral and at least one give away that the sponsor can decide and >> > contribute (this would be in addition to the sponsorship fees). This >> > also helps establish a more direct connect between the attendee and >> > sponsor, something sponsors are likely to appreciate. >> > d) Roll up banners can help sponsors have more direct control over >> > their branding and their message. >> > e) Information booth allows a specific direct interaction. Thats >> > something that is a feature of many conferences. These could also be >> > offered independently, but I am not too sure about it. >> > f) The only upper limit on sponsorship slabs I think makes sense is >> > "1" for platinum (just for the exclusivity it provides. The rest >> > should not be covered by an upper limit in terms of count of sponsors >> > since we should be able to extend the facilities as suggested to many >> > sponsors. >> > >> > The goal isn't to really make tons of money. But the goal is to move >> > towards a scenario where Pycon India can eventually host itself from >> > convention centers if need be. Which means the goal indeed is to be >> > able to attract larger sponsorship support from the companies and >> > community towards such a growth path. >> > >> > To comment specifically on Noufal's mail earlier in this thread, I am >> > not sure how convenient it would be to sell modular packages to >> > sponsors. I have a feeling it would be easier to offer and sell slabs >> > in this context but we can have a discussion on the matter. My fear is >> > that modular offerings (offering specific features for specific >> > sponsorship amounts and allowing people to pick and choose) might tend >> > to confuse. >> > >> > In the proposal above I have been struggling to provide the "extra" >> > oomph for the platinum slab but haven't been able to come out with >> > something attractive yet. If we can find something else, we could open >> > up the information booths to the gold slab sponsors, since a few more >> > booths (as opposed to just 1) might be a little better. >> > >> > Open for comments. >> > >> > I have many more thoughts and suggestions, but thought its better to >> > kick off the discussion with the sponsorship matter. I expect to raise >> > a few more points in mails that follow. >> > >> > Dhananjay >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah < >> sree at mahiti.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> I suggest following chanages to above slabs: >> >> >> >> Platinum Sponsor (1 no.) :2,00,000/- >> >> Gold Sponsor (3 no.): 1,20,000/- >> >> Silver Sponsor(8 no.): 70,000/- >> >> >> >> We had silver sponsor slot fill fast last year, so its better to >> provision more. >> >> Also, I feel keeping rates same as last year is not correct. >> >> - sree >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20 April 2012 02:08, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Jaidev Deshpande writes: >> >>> >> >>> > Hi Noufal, >> >>> > >> >>> > Just asking, >> >>> > >> >>> >> 4 Foreign sponsors >> >>> >> ------------------- >> >>> >> - This will require that they directly handle a certain aspect of >> >>> >> the the conference without involving the IPSS. >> >>> >> - Two things are possible. >> >>> >> - Food : Directly pay caterers - 315000 (450 per day * 700 >> expected delegates) >> >>> >> - Foreign delegate : Directly pay hotel and air fare. (150000 >> per person) >> >>> > >> >>> > Food - Rs 450 / day? Isn't that the total food cost for per >> delegate? >> >>> >> >>> [...] >> >>> >> >>> Sorry. My bad. I meant 150 per day per person. That's 450 per person >> for >> >>> a 3 day event. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ~noufal >> >>> http://nibrahim.net.in >> >>> >> >>> Gentlemen, I want you to know that I am not always right, but I am >> never wrong. -Samuel Goldwyn >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Inpycon mailing list >> >>> Inpycon at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah >> >> Executive Director >> >> Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. >> >> "OpenSpace", #583, >> >> Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, >> >> Nagawara, Veerannapalya, >> >> Bangalore, India - 560043 >> >> Phone: +91 80 3094 9393 >> >> Mobile: +91 98455 12611 >> >> www.mahiti.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Inpycon mailing list >> >> Inpycon at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: >> > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: >> http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene >> > > > > -- > Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > Executive Director > Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > "OpenSpace", #583, > Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, > Nagawara, Veerannapalya, > Bangalore, India - 560043 > Phone: +91 80 3094 9393 > Mobile: +91 98455 12611 > www.mahiti.org > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 14 10:25:35 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:55:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > Sree, > > Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the same. > > Dhananjay We may want to consider a special Tier for sponsoring Travel expenses for the keynote speaker. This is suitable for a foreign sponsors. Last time, we asked Github for Gold sponsorship and that wasn't sufficient for the keynote speaker's trip. Anand From sree at mahiti.org Tue May 15 05:18:37 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:48:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On 14 May 2012 13:55, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene > wrote: > > Sree, > > > > Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the same. > > > > Dhananjay > > We may want to consider a special Tier for sponsoring Travel expenses > for the keynote speaker. This is suitable for a foreign sponsors. > > Last time, we asked Github for Gold sponsorship and that wasn't > sufficient for the keynote speaker's trip. > +1 We need to workout details of what would they get in return? Any thoughts? > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. "OpenSpace", #583, Vyalikaval HBCS Layout, Nagawara, Veerannapalya, Bangalore, India - 560043 Phone: +91 80 3094 9393 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Tue May 15 06:10:23 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:40:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > > On 14 May 2012 13:55, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene >> wrote: >> > Sree, >> > >> > Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the >> > same. >> > >> > Dhananjay >> >> We may want to consider a special Tier for sponsoring Travel expenses >> for the keynote speaker. This is suitable for a foreign sponsors. >> >> Last time, we asked Github for Gold sponsorship and that wasn't >> sufficient for the keynote speaker's trip. > > > +1 > > We need to workout details of what would they get in return? > Any thoughts? They can get the same benefits as a gold sponsorship, but we'll have the flexibility of not having to commit a fixed amount of money. It looks like 1.5L INR (3K USD) should be sufficient for travel of one foreign speaker. We may even be able to accommodate the hotel expenses in it. We can tell the sponsors that the actual amount will be somewhere between 3K to 4K USD. Does this sound okay? Anand From sree at mahiti.org Tue May 15 06:18:58 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:48:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On 15 May 2012 09:40, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > wrote: > > > > > > On 14 May 2012 13:55, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene > >> wrote: > >> > Sree, > >> > > >> > Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the > >> > same. > >> > > >> > Dhananjay > >> > >> We may want to consider a special Tier for sponsoring Travel expenses > >> for the keynote speaker. This is suitable for a foreign sponsors. > >> > >> Last time, we asked Github for Gold sponsorship and that wasn't > >> sufficient for the keynote speaker's trip. > > > > > > +1 > > > > We need to workout details of what would they get in return? > > Any thoughts? > > They can get the same benefits as a gold sponsorship, but we'll have > the flexibility of not having to commit a fixed amount of money. > > It looks like 1.5L INR (3K USD) should be sufficient for travel of one > foreign speaker. We may even be able to accommodate the hotel expenses > in it. We can tell the sponsors that the actual amount will be > somewhere between 3K to 4K USD. > > Does this sound okay? > Very good thought. +1 > > Anand > -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. 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Anand From anandology at gmail.com Fri May 18 03:37:21 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:07:21 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website Message-ID: Hi, I've been hosting the in.pycon.org website for last two years and will be happy to continue doing it this year too. The software that we used is not perfect, but it is working well. I'm open to consider some other software if you have any suggestions. Some of the issues with the current software are: * Speakers get password to edit their submitted talk in email after submitting the talk. * If the same speaker submits more than one talk, he'll have to manage more than one password. It would be nice if the user can log using their gmail/github/twitter account instead of having to manage a new password. If you have any other suggestions for improvements, please let me know. While, I'm managing the hosting and software issues, it will nice if some can take up managing the content. Anyone want to take it up? I'll try to set up a skeleton website in a week. We can see if we can get someone to make a good design. Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Fri May 18 07:47:17 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:17:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] we are too late In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hi, > > I'm worried that things are moving very very slowly. > > Last year, we had even call for proposals open by this time. > > > Important Dates > > ---------------- > > Call for proposals opens: May 10, 2011 > > Proposal submission deadline: June 30, 2011 > > Proposal acceptance: July 18, 2011 > > First presentation upload: Aug 15, 2011 > > Final presentation upload (with changes if any): Aug 31, 2011 > > > > We haven't even decided the dates yet. We need start moving quickly. > Need to setup a website, talk to sponsors, invite keynote speakers, > ... > > Team Pune? > +100 Anyone here ? If we don't start moving things in a week, we can forget about PyCon India 2012. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Fri May 18 07:48:51 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:18:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hi, > > I've been hosting the in.pycon.org website for last two years and will > be happy to continue doing it this year too. > > The software that we used is not perfect, but it is working well. I'm > open to consider some other software if you have any suggestions. > > Some of the issues with the current software are: > > * Speakers get password to edit their submitted talk in email after > submitting the talk. > * If the same speaker submits more than one talk, he'll have to manage > more than one password. > > It would be nice if the user can log using their gmail/github/twitter > account instead of having to manage a new password. > So, can't we do this with openid integration ? Does the site support it ? > > If you have any other suggestions for improvements, please let me know. > > While, I'm managing the hosting and software issues, it will nice if > some can take up managing the content. Anyone want to take it up? > I can take care of it. > > I'll try to set up a skeleton website in a week. We can see if we can > get someone to make a good design. > Great Anand. Let us get this done. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Fri May 18 07:52:39 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:22:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been hosting the in.pycon.org website for last two years and will >> be happy to continue doing it this year too. >> >> The software that we used is not perfect, but it is working well. I'm >> open to consider some other software if you have any suggestions. >> >> Some of the issues with the current software are: >> >> * Speakers get password to edit their submitted talk in email after >> submitting the talk. >> * If the same speaker submits more than one talk, he'll have to manage >> more than one password. >> >> It would be nice if the user can log using their gmail/github/twitter >> account instead of having to manage a new password. > > > So, can't we do this with openid integration ? Does the site support it ? OAuth seems more popular nowadays than Open ID. No, the site doesn't support it yet. It needs to be implemented. Anand From anushshetty at gmail.com Fri May 18 07:58:01 2012 From: anushshetty at gmail.com (Anush Shetty) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:28:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I am not sure of this, but do you think talking to hasgeek guys about using their funneling infrastructure would be good? This is a community event, so I thought I could suggest this. - Anush On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Anand Chitipothu > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've been hosting the in.pycon.org website for last two years and will > >> be happy to continue doing it this year too. > >> > >> The software that we used is not perfect, but it is working well. I'm > >> open to consider some other software if you have any suggestions. > >> > >> Some of the issues with the current software are: > >> > >> * Speakers get password to edit their submitted talk in email after > >> submitting the talk. > >> * If the same speaker submits more than one talk, he'll have to manage > >> more than one password. > >> > >> It would be nice if the user can log using their gmail/github/twitter > >> account instead of having to manage a new password. > > > > > > So, can't we do this with openid integration ? Does the site support it ? > > OAuth seems more popular nowadays than Open ID. > > No, the site doesn't support it yet. It needs to be implemented. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Nigel From anandology at gmail.com Fri May 18 08:14:27 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:44:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Nigel Babu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Ramdas S wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anush Shetty >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am not sure of this, but do you think talking to hasgeek guys about >>> using their funneling infrastructure would be good? This is a community >>> event, so I thought I could suggest this. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Anush >>> >> +1, I second anush. >> Can someone check with Jace and Co. He seems to have built a framework >> that's pretty robust for events... >[...] > > Hey, > > Happy to help if you guys need help setting up funnel and/or > authentication with lastuser. Thanks Nigel. I was thinking of trying lastuser for supporting OAuth. I would love to use funnel, but I'm not sure if we want public voting on submitted talks. Anand From ramdaz at gmail.com Fri May 18 08:16:10 2012 From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:46:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Nigel Babu wrote: > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Ramdas S wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anush Shetty > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I am not sure of this, but do you think talking to hasgeek guys about > >>> using their funneling infrastructure would be good? This is a community > >>> event, so I thought I could suggest this. > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> Anush > >>> > >> +1, I second anush. > >> Can someone check with Jace and Co. He seems to have built a framework > >> that's pretty robust for events... > >[...] > > > > Hey, > > > > Happy to help if you guys need help setting up funnel and/or > > authentication with lastuser. > > Thanks Nigel. > > I was thinking of trying lastuser for supporting OAuth. > > I would love to use funnel, but I'm not sure if we want public voting > on submitted talks. > > public voting is a good idea. I know things can get hijacked. But that's where you have a quality team who can vtake veto decisions > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anand From noufal at gmail.com Fri May 18 09:03:25 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:33:25 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Fri, 18 May 2012 11:59:21 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87sjey6kea.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Given how late it is, it's a good idea to keep "new ideas" minimal. It is possible, though inconvenient, to hold the event without OAuth and without public voting. Anand Chitipothu writes: >>> I would love to use funnel, but I'm not sure if we want public voting >>> on submitted talks. >>> >> public voting is a good idea. I know things can get hijacked. But that's >> where you have a quality team who can vtake veto decisions > > I think we had this trouble in the first year. There were some talks > by students and they got all their friends to upvote. > > I'm trying to setup a Flask instance and see how it feels like. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Some bird populations soaring down -Headline of an article in Science News, page 126, February 20, 1993. From anandology at gmail.com Fri May 18 11:15:39 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:45:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'll try to set up a skeleton website in a week. We can see if we can > get someone to make a good design. I've setup a simple html page with the previous year's design. http://in.pycon.org/2012/ Anand From anandology at gmail.com Fri May 18 13:49:19 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:19:19 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What do you think of this? http://in.pycon.org:8080/ It is made using HasGeek's Baseframe. I took rootconf.in website repo and changed the content and changed the theme to use colors from Python logo. Anand From b.ghose at gmail.com Fri May 18 14:06:38 2012 From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:36:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > What do you think of this? > > http://in.pycon.org:8080/ > > It is made using HasGeek's Baseframe. > > I took rootconf.in website repo and changed the content and changed > the theme to use colors from Python logo. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com From ananthmv at gmail.com Fri May 18 16:03:29 2012 From: ananthmv at gmail.com (Anand Muthu) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:33:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1+ Please do change the favicon :) On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > What do you think of this? > > http://in.pycon.org:8080/ > > It is made using HasGeek's Baseframe. > > I took rootconf.in website repo and changed the content and changed > the theme to use colors from Python logo. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Sat May 19 06:38:09 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 10:08:09 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Ramdas S wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anush Shetty wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I am not sure of this, but do you think talking to hasgeek guys about >> using their funneling infrastructure would be good? This is a community >> event, so I thought I could suggest this. >> >> >> - >> Anush >> >> +1, I second anush. > Can someone check with Jace and Co. He seems to have built a framework > that's pretty robust for events... > > We should consider moving to hasgeek infra next year IMHO. This year we are kind of playing catchup with time already, so better stick to our own webmaster and trusted set of tools which has delivered the goods so far. 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Right now we have too many things hardcoded for the way we run events. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Sat May 19 09:27:18 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:57:18 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > > On 15 May 2012 09:40, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 14 May 2012 13:55, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene >> >> wrote: >> >> > Sree, >> >> > >> >> > Sounds good. I will start creating a sponsorship document using the >> >> > same. >> >> > >> >> > Dhananjay >> >> >> >> We may want to consider a special Tier for sponsoring Travel expenses >> >> for the keynote speaker. This is suitable for a foreign sponsors. >> >> >> >> Last time, we asked Github for Gold sponsorship and that wasn't >> >> sufficient for the keynote speaker's trip. >> > >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > We need to workout details of what would they get in return? >> > Any thoughts? >> >> They can get the same benefits as a gold sponsorship, but we'll have >> the flexibility of not having to commit a fixed amount of money. >> >> It looks like 1.5L INR (3K USD) should be sufficient for travel of one >> foreign speaker. We may even be able to accommodate the hotel expenses >> in it. We can tell the sponsors that the actual amount will be >> somewhere between 3K to 4K USD. >> >> Does this sound okay? >> > > Very good thought. > +1 > As I start collating all this into a doc, this starts being a slightly dicey one. a) The exact amount is variable - which could be a slight issue for someone willing to commit b) Some of the issues I suspect are due to the fact that remittance could be in foreign exchange and part of the expenditure (eg. ticket but not the hotel) are in foreign exchange. c) If the amount is not the same as standard slabs it becomes a little hard for us to figure out exactly what to offer for this - is this a new slab? How does one slot it between existing slabs etc. I instead propose that we allow any Gold or Platinum sponsor the following treatment : a) Also announce amount in $ slabs. ie. work out what a Gold or Platinum slab will cost in USD terms. b) Allow the sponsor to elect to pay for the speaker expenses. It should be fine if the speaker expenses include local stay and allowances as well in that amount so long as the speaker gets it directly from the sponsor and uses it for the local expenses. We should still grant the sponsor the equivalent treatment of the gold / platinum sponsor so long as they treat the remainder of the amount as a contribution towards Pycon India sponsorship. (ie. the exact sponsorship amount remitted to IPSS will be the difference between the slab and the speaker expenses directly reimbursed, though the sponsor will get the full benefits of the slab he chooses). c) My only slight reservation is that the speaker expenses could end up being > 1.5 lakhs if the rupee continues to depreciate further. So it might make sense to have the sponsorship $ amounts as being $3500 (instead of $2800 as per current exchange rate). One may want to consider raising the local sponsorship gold slab to 1.75 lakhs instead of the 1.5 lakhs and treat the equivalent foreign currency amount as USD 3500. Thats what I would recommend. In light of this suggestion, the sponsorship amounts will be Platiinum : 3,00,000 INR or 6,000 USD for foreign sponsors Gold : 1,75,000 INR or 3,500 USD for foreign sponsors Silver: 1,00,000 INR or 2,000 USD for foreign sponsors Dhananjay Anand >> > > > > -- > Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > Executive Director > Mahiti Infotech Pvt. 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URL: From anandology at gmail.com Sun May 20 03:15:56 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 06:45:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: As I start collating all this into a doc, this starts being a slightly dicey > one. > > a) The exact amount is variable - which could be a slight issue for someone > willing to commit > b) Some of the issues I suspect are due to the fact that remittance could be > in foreign exchange and part of the expenditure (eg. ticket but not the > hotel) are in foreign exchange. We can ask the sponsor to book the hotel via Cleartrip or some other website. That way we don't have to worry about foreign exchange. > c) ?If the amount is not the same as standard slabs it becomes a little hard > for us to figure out exactly what to offer for this - is this a new slab? > How does one slot it between existing slabs etc. > > I instead propose that we allow any Gold or Platinum sponsor the following > treatment : > > a) Also announce amount in $ slabs. ie. work out what a Gold or Platinum > slab will cost in USD terms. > b) Allow the sponsor to elect to pay for the speaker expenses. It should be > fine if the speaker expenses include local stay and allowances as well in > that amount so long as the speaker gets it directly from the sponsor and > uses it for the local expenses. We should still grant the sponsor the > equivalent treatment of the gold / platinum sponsor so long as they treat > the remainder of the amount as a contribution towards Pycon India > sponsorship. (ie. the exact sponsorship amount remitted to IPSS will be the > difference between the slab and the speaker expenses directly reimbursed, > though the sponsor will get the full benefits of the slab he chooses). > c) My only slight reservation is that the speaker expenses could end up > being > 1.5 lakhs if the rupee continues to depreciate further. So it might > make sense to have the sponsorship $ amounts as being $3500 (instead of > $2800 as per current exchange rate). One may want to consider raising the > local sponsorship gold slab to 1.75 lakhs instead of the 1.5 lakhs and treat > the equivalent foreign currency amount as USD 3500. Thats what I would > recommend. > > In light of this suggestion, the sponsorship amounts will be > > Platiinum : 3,00,000 INR ?or 6,000 USD for foreign sponsors > Gold : 1,75,000 INR or 3,500 USD for foreign sponsors > Silver: 1,00,000 INR or 2,000 USD for foreign sponsors I'm not sure if we can accept remittence in USD. So suggesting a USD equivalent and not being able to accept USD when a foreign sponsor is ready won't be a good situation. So we first need to find out what are the expenses that can be paid directly by foreign sponsors. Travel and hotel is one of them. If it is not possible to accept USD and if there are no other expenses that can be paid directly in USD, there is no point specifying USD equivalents. We can just create a new slab Travel Sponsorship. Also, it may not be necessary to strictly match the local and foreign sponsorship amounts. I don't see an issue with have Rs. 1.5L and $3500 as the amount for gold slab. I think 3L for platinum might be too high. What Sreekanth suggest sounds reasonable to me. May be we can push it a bit higher and roundoff. Silver: Rs. 75,000/- ($2000) Gold: Rs. 1,50,000/- ($3500) Platinum: Rs. 2,50,000/- ($5000) Anand From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Sun May 20 05:54:18 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:24:18 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > As I start collating all this into a doc, this starts being a slightly > dicey > > one. > > > > a) The exact amount is variable - which could be a slight issue for > someone > > willing to commit > > b) Some of the issues I suspect are due to the fact that remittance > could be > > in foreign exchange and part of the expenditure (eg. ticket but not the > > hotel) are in foreign exchange. > > We can ask the sponsor to book the hotel via Cleartrip or some other > website. That way we don't have to worry about foreign exchange. > > Precisely my thought > > c) If the amount is not the same as standard slabs it becomes a little > hard > > for us to figure out exactly what to offer for this - is this a new slab? > > How does one slot it between existing slabs etc. > > > > I instead propose that we allow any Gold or Platinum sponsor the > following > > treatment : > > > > a) Also announce amount in $ slabs. ie. work out what a Gold or Platinum > > slab will cost in USD terms. > > b) Allow the sponsor to elect to pay for the speaker expenses. It should > be > > fine if the speaker expenses include local stay and allowances as well in > > that amount so long as the speaker gets it directly from the sponsor and > > uses it for the local expenses. We should still grant the sponsor the > > equivalent treatment of the gold / platinum sponsor so long as they treat > > the remainder of the amount as a contribution towards Pycon India > > sponsorship. (ie. the exact sponsorship amount remitted to IPSS will be > the > > difference between the slab and the speaker expenses directly reimbursed, > > though the sponsor will get the full benefits of the slab he chooses). > > c) My only slight reservation is that the speaker expenses could end up > > being > 1.5 lakhs if the rupee continues to depreciate further. So it > might > > make sense to have the sponsorship $ amounts as being $3500 (instead of > > $2800 as per current exchange rate). One may want to consider raising the > > local sponsorship gold slab to 1.75 lakhs instead of the 1.5 lakhs and > treat > > the equivalent foreign currency amount as USD 3500. Thats what I would > > recommend. > > > > In light of this suggestion, the sponsorship amounts will be > > > > Platiinum : 3,00,000 INR or 6,000 USD for foreign sponsors > > Gold : 1,75,000 INR or 3,500 USD for foreign sponsors > > Silver: 1,00,000 INR or 2,000 USD for foreign sponsors > > I'm not sure if we can accept remittence in USD. So suggesting a USD > equivalent and not being able to accept USD when a foreign sponsor is > ready won't be a good situation. > > That is not correct. We can accept remittances. Its tax treatment is different and the amount of paperwork needed to get/pass on tax breaks is just huge. Its really a taxation issue and assumiing one doesn't do all the paperwork (which is really onerous), the taxation impact could be large (Sree to clarify if I misstated anything). I suspect if we just go ahead and pay say a 33% tax on the incoming forex w/o doing the paperwork, its still a reasonable amount of money rather than not accepting it all. (AFAIK Indian currency sponsorships - we don't get taxed and the sponsors get a tax break on the amount). > So we first need to find out what are the expenses that can be paid > directly by foreign sponsors. Travel and hotel is one of them. > > If it is not possible to accept USD and if there are no other expenses > that can be paid directly in USD, there is no point specifying USD > equivalents. We can just create a new slab Travel Sponsorship. > > Also, it may not be necessary to strictly match the local and foreign > sponsorship amounts. I don't see an issue with have Rs. 1.5L and $3500 > as the amount for gold slab. > I generally think foreign currency conversion rates should be fair at least at the point in time they are applied (future fluctuations notwithstanding). At 1.5L & $3500 they aren't imo. For a bulk of the past year these have been hovering around 1USD = 50 INR. The above conversion treats 1USD = 42 INR and the current rates are 1USD = 54INR) > > I think 3L for platinum might be too high. What Sreekanth suggest > sounds reasonable to me. May be we can push it a bit higher and > roundoff. > > Silver: Rs. 75,000/- ($2000) > Gold: Rs. 1,50,000/- ($3500) > Platinum: Rs. 2,50,000/- ($5000) > More thoughts on the amounts? I still believe 3/1.75/1 is a good set of slabs to have. > > Anand > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Sun May 20 06:24:16 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:54:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Just realised my comments could lead to a whole bunch of questions on taxation and currency laws. So with an intent to specifically refocus on the impact of that on what we do (rather than the legal details themselves), here's my understanding (open for agreement or contesting) a. We can accept foreign currency sponsorships b. Sponsorship grants to us may not be tax deductible in countries of the sponsor c. We may end up having to pay more tax on the amounts d. Its better to offset foreign currency expenditure (primarily speaker travel and any other associated speaker expenses) by a foreign third party directly footing the bill. For all other expenses, it really doesn't matter. Dhananjay On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> As I start collating all this into a doc, this starts being a slightly >> dicey >> > one. >> > >> > a) The exact amount is variable - which could be a slight issue for >> someone >> > willing to commit >> > b) Some of the issues I suspect are due to the fact that remittance >> could be >> > in foreign exchange and part of the expenditure (eg. ticket but not the >> > hotel) are in foreign exchange. >> >> We can ask the sponsor to book the hotel via Cleartrip or some other >> website. That way we don't have to worry about foreign exchange. >> >> Precisely my thought > > >> > c) If the amount is not the same as standard slabs it becomes a little >> hard >> > for us to figure out exactly what to offer for this - is this a new >> slab? >> > How does one slot it between existing slabs etc. >> > >> > I instead propose that we allow any Gold or Platinum sponsor the >> following >> > treatment : >> > >> > a) Also announce amount in $ slabs. ie. work out what a Gold or Platinum >> > slab will cost in USD terms. >> > b) Allow the sponsor to elect to pay for the speaker expenses. It >> should be >> > fine if the speaker expenses include local stay and allowances as well >> in >> > that amount so long as the speaker gets it directly from the sponsor and >> > uses it for the local expenses. We should still grant the sponsor the >> > equivalent treatment of the gold / platinum sponsor so long as they >> treat >> > the remainder of the amount as a contribution towards Pycon India >> > sponsorship. (ie. the exact sponsorship amount remitted to IPSS will be >> the >> > difference between the slab and the speaker expenses directly >> reimbursed, >> > though the sponsor will get the full benefits of the slab he chooses). >> > c) My only slight reservation is that the speaker expenses could end up >> > being > 1.5 lakhs if the rupee continues to depreciate further. So it >> might >> > make sense to have the sponsorship $ amounts as being $3500 (instead of >> > $2800 as per current exchange rate). One may want to consider raising >> the >> > local sponsorship gold slab to 1.75 lakhs instead of the 1.5 lakhs and >> treat >> > the equivalent foreign currency amount as USD 3500. Thats what I would >> > recommend. >> > >> > In light of this suggestion, the sponsorship amounts will be >> > >> > Platiinum : 3,00,000 INR or 6,000 USD for foreign sponsors >> > Gold : 1,75,000 INR or 3,500 USD for foreign sponsors >> > Silver: 1,00,000 INR or 2,000 USD for foreign sponsors >> >> I'm not sure if we can accept remittence in USD. So suggesting a USD >> equivalent and not being able to accept USD when a foreign sponsor is >> ready won't be a good situation. >> >> That is not correct. We can accept remittances. Its tax treatment is > different and the amount of paperwork needed to get/pass on tax breaks is > just huge. Its really a taxation issue and assumiing one doesn't do all the > paperwork (which is really onerous), the taxation impact could be large > (Sree to clarify if I misstated anything). I suspect if we just go ahead > and pay say a 33% tax on the incoming forex w/o doing the paperwork, its > still a reasonable amount of money rather than not accepting it all. (AFAIK > Indian currency sponsorships - we don't get taxed and the sponsors get a > tax break on the amount). > > >> So we first need to find out what are the expenses that can be paid >> directly by foreign sponsors. Travel and hotel is one of them. >> >> If it is not possible to accept USD and if there are no other expenses >> that can be paid directly in USD, there is no point specifying USD >> equivalents. We can just create a new slab Travel Sponsorship. >> >> Also, it may not be necessary to strictly match the local and foreign >> sponsorship amounts. I don't see an issue with have Rs. 1.5L and $3500 >> as the amount for gold slab. >> > I generally think foreign currency conversion rates should be fair at > least at the point in time they are applied (future fluctuations > notwithstanding). At 1.5L & $3500 they aren't imo. For a bulk of the past > year these have been hovering around 1USD = 50 INR. The above conversion > treats 1USD = 42 INR and the current rates are 1USD = 54INR) > >> >> I think 3L for platinum might be too high. What Sreekanth suggest >> sounds reasonable to me. May be we can push it a bit higher and >> roundoff. >> >> Silver: Rs. 75,000/- ($2000) >> Gold: Rs. 1,50,000/- ($3500) >> Platinum: Rs. 2,50,000/- ($5000) >> > More thoughts on the amounts? I still believe 3/1.75/1 is a good set of > slabs to have. > >> >> Anand >> > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sree at mahiti.org Mon May 21 08:13:59 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:43:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Budget and sponsorship. In-Reply-To: References: <87zka7wkre.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ipgvwj7i.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On 20 May 2012 09:54, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > Just realised my comments could lead to a whole bunch of questions on > taxation and currency laws. So with an intent to specifically refocus on > the impact of that on what we do (rather than the legal details > themselves), here's my understanding (open for agreement or contesting) > > a. We can accept foreign currency sponsorships > No. We cannot. (There is a legal limitation) > b. Sponsorship grants to us may not be tax deductible in countries of the > sponsor > c. We may end up having to pay more tax on the amounts > Do not go down this path. Its way too complicated for non-profit institutions to do this. > d. Its better to offset foreign currency expenditure (primarily speaker > travel and any other associated speaker expenses) by a foreign third party > directly footing the bill. For all other expenses, it really doesn't matter. > > +1. Irrespective of whether they are Indian companies or of foreign origin, let them foot the bill and get equivalent sponsorship slab. Regards, - sree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 21 08:21:56 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:51:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Conference Dates Message-ID: Hi, I'm starting a new thread to discuss the possible dates for PyCon India 2012. Things to keep in mind: DjangoCon- September 3-9, 2012 Ganesh Chaturdi - September 19 Cartonama conference - September 2012, Bangalore http://lanyrd.com/2012/cartonama/ It looks like September 28-30 are suitable and non-conflicting dates. What do you think? Anand From sree at mahiti.org Mon May 21 08:24:12 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:54:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Conference Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 May 2012 11:51, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hi, > > I'm starting a new thread to discuss the possible dates for PyCon India > 2012. > > Things to keep in mind: > > DjangoCon- September 3-9, 2012 > > Ganesh Chaturdi - September 19 > > Cartonama conference - September 2012, Bangalore > http://lanyrd.com/2012/cartonama/ > > It looks like September 28-30 are suitable and non-conflicting dates. > +1. Team Pune, please let others know if there are any local challenges around this date. - sree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think there was already a thread earlier which talked of the two weekends prior Ganesh Chaturthi. Lets explore one of those two options. Dhananjay > - sree > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 21 08:36:03 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:06:03 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Conference Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 21 May 2012 11:51, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm starting a new thread to discuss the possible dates for PyCon India >>> 2012. >>> >>> Things to keep in mind: >>> >>> DjangoCon- September 3-9, 2012 >>> >>> Ganesh Chaturdi - September 19 >>> >>> Cartonama conference - September 2012, Bangalore >>> http://lanyrd.com/2012/cartonama/ >>> >>> It looks like September 28-30 are suitable and non-conflicting dates. >> >> +1. Team Pune, please let others know if there are any local challenges >> around this date. > > > Absolutely no no. Sept 28 (or 29) will be Anant Chaturdashi - pune will have > huge traffic jams, local road rerouting on count of Ganesh Visarjan for a > period of at least 36 hours. I think there was already a thread earlier > which talked of the two weekends prior Ganesh Chaturthi. Lets explore one of > those two options. Lets move the discussion to that thread then. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 21 08:45:42 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:15:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > September 1st/2nd week is a good time for PyCon. The Fri-Sat-Sun in > September this year are on 31-Aug/1-2-Sept, 7-8-9 Sept, and 14-15-16. Any of > these dates are possible. After that, the ICC T20 World cup starts from 18 > Sept onwards, and Ganesh Chaturthi starts from 19 Sept onwards. On 3-5 Sept, > there is a "Cube Conference" happening in Pune > (http://www.thecubeconf.com/). This is the first time Cube is happening is > Pune, so I have no idea of what kind of audience it will draw, and how much. > But since is it not happening on a weekend, we needn't worry about it too > much. There don't appear to be any other major religious holidays. No major > exams for students in Pune that we are aware of. > > At this point, let use tentatively say that PyCon 2012 will be around the > weekend of 8-9 Sept. > > Please spend some time checking for possible clashes. We would like to > freeze the dates soon. Weekend of 8-9 sept might not work because of DjangoCon/September 3-9, 2012. Our potential keynote speaker may want to attend that. Here are the list of weekends. Sept 01-02: Possible Sept 08-09: No. DjangoCon Sept 15-16: Possible Sept 22-23: No. Ganesh Chaturdi Sept 29-30: No. Anant Chaturdashi Oct 06-07: Possible Since we are already running late, the weekend of October 06-07 might work well. What do you think? Anand From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Mon May 21 09:07:49 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:37:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Navin Kabra > wrote: > > September 1st/2nd week is a good time for PyCon. The Fri-Sat-Sun in > > September this year are on 31-Aug/1-2-Sept, 7-8-9 Sept, and 14-15-16. > Any of > > these dates are possible. After that, the ICC T20 World cup starts from > 18 > > Sept onwards, and Ganesh Chaturthi starts from 19 Sept onwards. On 3-5 > Sept, > > there is a "Cube Conference" happening in Pune > > (http://www.thecubeconf.com/). This is the first time Cube is happening > is > > Pune, so I have no idea of what kind of audience it will draw, and how > much. > > But since is it not happening on a weekend, we needn't worry about it too > > much. There don't appear to be any other major religious holidays. No > major > > exams for students in Pune that we are aware of. > > > > At this point, let use tentatively say that PyCon 2012 will be around the > > weekend of 8-9 Sept. > > > > Please spend some time checking for possible clashes. We would like to > > freeze the dates soon. > > Weekend of 8-9 sept might not work because of DjangoCon/September 3-9, > 2012. > > Our potential keynote speaker may want to attend that. > > Here are the list of weekends. > > Sept 01-02: Possible > Sept 08-09: No. DjangoCon > Sept 15-16: Possible > Sept 22-23: No. Ganesh Chaturdi > Sept 29-30: No. Anant Chaturdashi > Oct 06-07: Possible > > Since we are already running late, the weekend of October 06-07 might work > well. > I would completely avoid any date 19th onwards. a) Pune gets into a festive mood, b) Allows students time to travel home etc. etc. Oct 07 is the T20 world cup finals. After that of course you have diwali etc. I would still think a conflict with a DjangoCon is a far better option than a conflict either with a) local traffic jams or b) Cricket. 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Atleast one might be free if we can move fast enough to invite them. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sree at mahiti.org Mon May 21 09:57:21 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 13:27:21 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, kausikram krishnasayee < > kausikram at gmail.com> wrote: > >> What do you think of this? >>> >>> http://in.pycon.org:8080/ >>> >>> It is made using HasGeek's Baseframe. >>> >> >> +1 lets go live with it shall we? >> > +2 > +1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We may end up having to pay more tax on the amounts >> > > Do not go down this path. Its way too complicated for non-profit > institutions to do this. > > >> d. Its better to offset foreign currency expenditure (primarily speaker >> travel and any other associated speaker expenses) by a foreign third party >> directly footing the bill. For all other expenses, it really doesn't matter. >> >> +1. Irrespective of whether they are Indian companies or of foreign > origin, let them foot the bill and get equivalent sponsorship slab. > > Ok. Given the various constraints will create a special slab for speaker sponsor and revert. > Regards, > - sree > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regarding venue: We've had various discussions and looked at various alternatives but in the end, none of the alternatives have panned out, so I suggest that we repeat the same venue, except that we will have a better idea of the short-comings this time, and hence we should be able to do a slightly better job - especially of lining up an appropriate 3rd room. > With the potential danger of opening a can of worms, are we still settled > on Pune ? Here is a quick assessment of the situation: 1. I dropped the ball on this one. I took on the responsibility of Pycon and then had some personal issues because of which I could not drive this for a last couple of months. However, I am back, starting today, and will be able to give the time required from now on, until the conference. 2. Availability of others in Pune who can take on responsibilities: Dhananjay was also busy for the last couple of months. He has indicated that he will have less time this year to devote to Pycon organizational duties, but he will be available. Harshad Gune, who took care of co-ordination with all the people who matter at Symbiosis (from official permissions, to the caterer, to the staff who actually do the work) will be able to replay his role this year too. He normally isn't visible on mailing list discussions but gets the job done when it counts. Harshad Oak, who did a lot of the local logistics including signage, flex boards, volunteer co-ordination will also be available. (He is currently busy organizing his own conference in Delhi, but should be free when needed around Pycon time). With Ramki also returning as a general organizer, I think we have most of the original team returning; In addition we have a couple of new organizers also this time. In short: this past couple of months nothing happened, and I blame myself for that; but the team is more or less there, and if we are OK with repeating the venue, we can do this easily. On Sept 14-15-16. From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 21 14:48:18 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:18:18 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Deployed. http://in.pycon.org/2012/ Code is at: https://github.com/anandology/pyconindia2012 Thinking of creating a github account for IPSS organization and moving this repo there. Any objections? Anand From b.ghose at gmail.com Mon May 21 14:51:38 2012 From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:21:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Deployed. > > http://in.pycon.org/2012/ The "existing proposals" links points to rootconf. Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com From anandology at gmail.com Mon May 21 14:54:51 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:24:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Baishampayan Ghose wrote: >> Deployed. >> >> http://in.pycon.org/2012/ > > The "existing proposals" links points to rootconf. Fixed. Anand From sree at mahiti.org Mon May 21 16:05:52 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:35:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 May 2012 18:18, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Deployed. > > http://in.pycon.org/2012/ > > Code is at: > > https://github.com/anandology/pyconindia2012 > > Thinking of creating a github account for IPSS organization and moving > this repo there. 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I'm > open to consider some other software if you have any suggestions. > > Some of the issues with the current software are: > > * Speakers get password to edit their submitted talk in email after > submitting the talk. > * If the same speaker submits more than one talk, he'll have to manage > more than one password. > > It would be nice if the user can log using their gmail/github/twitter > account instead of having to manage a new password. > > If you have any other suggestions for improvements, please let me know. > > I was just wondering if we could use Drupal-based COD (www.usecod.com), it provides all the basic features for any Conference Organizing website out-of-the-box. The only part to consider would be theming the website. I can volunteer for setting it up, if we find it feasible. While, I'm managing the hosting and software issues, it will nice if > some can take up managing the content. Anyone want to take it up? > > I'll try to set up a skeleton website in a week. We can see if we can > get someone to make a good design. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jace at pobox.com Mon May 21 18:12:26 2012 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 00:12:26 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Dhruv Baldawa wrote: > I was just wondering if we could use Drupal-based COD (www.usecod.com), > it provides all the basic features for any Conference Organizing website > out-of-the-box. The only part to consider would be theming the website. I > can volunteer for setting it up, if we find it feasible. > Takes some guts to recommend a Drupal solution on a Python list. :) *goes off to fetch popcorn* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Mon May 21 18:14:32 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 21:44:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: (Kiran Jonnalagadda's message of "Tue, 22 May 2012 00:12:26 +0800") References: Message-ID: <87txz94il3.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Kiran Jonnalagadda writes: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Dhruv Baldawa wrote: > >> I was just wondering if we could use Drupal-based COD (www.usecod.com), >> it provides all the basic features for any Conference Organizing website >> out-of-the-box. The only part to consider would be theming the website. I >> can volunteer for setting it up, if we find it feasible. >> > > Takes some guts to recommend a Drupal solution on a Python list. :) [...] It's happened before and my only -1 for it now is that using something new would need more time and effort than using something already up and running. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From abpillai at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:01:44 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:31:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Baishampayan Ghose > wrote: > >> Deployed. > >> > >> http://in.pycon.org/2012/ > > > > The "existing proposals" links points to rootconf. > > Fixed. > Great. Let us now fix the "Sometimes" and "Somewheres" :) > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:04:05 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:34:05 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> References: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > > PyCon dates: > > I agree with Dhananjay that any date after 19th Sept will not work in > Pune. This includes dates in October because by that time colleges have > exams, and it gets close to Diwali breaks etc. > > The possible dates are: > > Aug-31,Sept-1-2: Possible, but a little early (esp. since we are late) > Sept-7-8-9: Possible, but clashes with DjangoCon > Sept-14-15-16: Possible - no known clashes. (Pune local team had studied > this date, and there are no local clashes that we are > aware of). > > Can anyone think of a reason why 14-16 Sept are inappropriate? > > Regarding venue: We've had various discussions and looked at various > alternatives but in the end, none of the alternatives have panned out, > so I suggest that we repeat the same venue, except that we will have a > better idea of the short-comings this time, and hence we should be able > to do a slightly better job - especially of lining up an appropriate 3rd > room. > > > With the potential danger of opening a can of worms, are we still settled > > on Pune ? > > Here is a quick assessment of the situation: > > 1. I dropped the ball on this one. I took on the responsibility of Pycon > and then had some personal issues because of which I could not drive > this for a last couple of months. However, I am back, starting today, > and will be able to give the time required from now on, until the > conference. > 2. Availability of others in Pune who can take on responsibilities: > Dhananjay was also busy for the last couple of months. He has indicated > that he will have less time this year to devote to Pycon organizational > duties, but he will be available. Harshad Gune, who took care of > co-ordination with all the people who matter at Symbiosis (from official > permissions, to the caterer, to the staff who actually do the work) will > be able to replay his role this year too. He normally isn't visible on > mailing list discussions but gets the job done when it counts. Harshad > Oak, who did a lot of the local logistics including signage, flex > boards, volunteer co-ordination will also be available. (He is currently > busy organizing his own conference in Delhi, but should be free when > needed around Pycon time). With Ramki also returning as a general > organizer, I think we have most of the original team returning; In > addition we have a couple of new organizers also this time. > > In short: this past couple of months nothing happened, and I blame > myself for that; but the team is more or less there, and if we are OK > with repeating the venue, we can do this easily. On Sept 14-15-16. > So can we with reasonable confidence fix on Symbiosis Vishwabhavan on Sep 14-16 ? It would be useful to update this on the site, prepare the CFP and open it out to the world ASAP. -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kausikram at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:27:28 2012 From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 11:57:28 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Great. 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(Pune local team had studied >> this date, and there are no local clashes that we are >> aware of). >> >> Can anyone think of a reason why 14-16 Sept are inappropriate? >> >> Regarding venue: We've had various discussions and looked at various >> alternatives but in the end, none of the alternatives have panned out, >> so I suggest that we repeat the same venue, except that we will have a >> better idea of the short-comings this time, and hence we should be able >> to do a slightly better job - especially of lining up an appropriate 3rd >> room. >> >> > With the potential danger of opening a can of worms, are we still >> settled >> > on Pune ? >> >> Here is a quick assessment of the situation: >> >> 1. I dropped the ball on this one. I took on the responsibility of Pycon >> and then had some personal issues because of which I could not drive >> this for a last couple of months. However, I am back, starting today, >> and will be able to give the time required from now on, until the >> conference. >> 2. Availability of others in Pune who can take on responsibilities: >> Dhananjay was also busy for the last couple of months. He has indicated >> that he will have less time this year to devote to Pycon organizational >> duties, but he will be available. Harshad Gune, who took care of >> co-ordination with all the people who matter at Symbiosis (from official >> permissions, to the caterer, to the staff who actually do the work) will >> be able to replay his role this year too. He normally isn't visible on >> mailing list discussions but gets the job done when it counts. Harshad >> Oak, who did a lot of the local logistics including signage, flex >> boards, volunteer co-ordination will also be available. (He is currently >> busy organizing his own conference in Delhi, but should be free when >> needed around Pycon time). With Ramki also returning as a general >> organizer, I think we have most of the original team returning; In >> addition we have a couple of new organizers also this time. >> >> In short: this past couple of months nothing happened, and I blame >> myself for that; but the team is more or less there, and if we are OK >> with repeating the venue, we can do this easily. On Sept 14-15-16. >> > > > So can we with reasonable confidence fix on Symbiosis Vishwabhavan > on Sep 14-16 ? It would be useful to update this on the site, prepare the > CFP and open it out to the world ASAP. > +1. Am sending a mail to elicit a confirmation from the institute for the final availability of the dates. > > > > -- > Regards, > > --Anand > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:43:01 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:13:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, kausikram krishnasayee wrote: >> Great. Let us now fix the "Sometimes" and "Somewheres" :) > > > and redirect to / to /2012/ :) Didn't do it because we haven't fixed "Sometimes" and "Somewheres". Anand From anandology at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:51:30 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:21:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, kausikram krishnasayee > wrote: >>> >>> Great. Let us now fix the "Sometimes" and "Somewheres" :) >> >> >> and redirect to / to /2012/ :) > > > I suggest let us do one of the following two options : > > a) Those interested in website development get write privileges on the repo > b) Fork the repo and issue pull requests. > > I suspect it will be easier to administer using pull requests / commits > rather than over email. I agree. Thats my plan too. I've setup an account for IPSS on github. https://github.com/ipss That is the right place to keep the in.pycon.org code than my own github account. Let me know if you want write access. Anand From sree at mahiti.org Wed May 23 05:42:08 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:12:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: References: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> Message-ID: On 22 May 2012 12:06, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < > abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: >> >>> >>> PyCon dates: >>> >>> I agree with Dhananjay that any date after 19th Sept will not work in >>> Pune. This includes dates in October because by that time colleges have >>> exams, and it gets close to Diwali breaks etc. >>> >>> >>> >> >> So can we with reasonable confidence fix on Symbiosis Vishwabhavan >> on Sep 14-16 ? It would be useful to update this on the site, prepare the >> CFP and open it out to the world ASAP. >> > > +1. Am sending a mail to elicit a confirmation from the institute for the > final availability of the dates. > +1. Lets get going... - sree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin at smriti.com Wed May 23 06:11:52 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:41:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: References: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> Message-ID: <87txz7mt87.fsf@smriti.com> >> +1. Am sending a mail to elicit a confirmation from the institute for the >> final availability of the dates. > > +1. Lets get going... Harshad Gune was busy yesterday and could not check. He is hoping to give us an update today. From abpillai at gmail.com Wed May 23 07:17:05 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:47:05 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: <87txz7mt87.fsf@smriti.com> References: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> <87txz7mt87.fsf@smriti.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > >> +1. Am sending a mail to elicit a confirmation from the institute for > the > >> final availability of the dates. > > > > +1. Lets get going... > > > Harshad Gune was busy yesterday and could not check. He is hoping to > give us an update today. > We should try and announce it by end of this week. If we go past the end of this month, it will be a scramble. > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Fri May 25 07:02:41 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates In-Reply-To: References: <87aa11om4n.fsf@smriti.com> <87txz7mt87.fsf@smriti.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > >> >> +1. Am sending a mail to elicit a confirmation from the institute for >> the >> >> final availability of the dates. >> > >> > +1. Lets get going... >> >> >> Harshad Gune was busy yesterday and could not check. He is hoping to >> give us an update today. >> > > We should try and announce it by end of this week. If we go past the end > of this month, it will be a scramble. > > Gentle reminder. Have we got a confirmation of the dates ? Pls inform the list if there are any updates. > _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > --Anand > > > > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: