hi, one good thing about the debate on cities is that people are now aware that there *is* such a place ;-) Here is a typical Saturday meetup. https://picasaweb.google.com/108629989013115149881/ILUGCBEFEB12SakthiCollege?authkey=Gv1sRgCJWEtoqK35eVDw&feat=email# -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/