From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 18:23:13 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:53:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0910300405u7862b20r66965635eb3232aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200910151226.06533.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0910190850p55fcc4absfa912cadbcf074e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<200910201056.15915.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0910192247jb50d4cexf16e4bd79dc60542@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00910200159x3dca26b0s7c044a78125d02e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0910200224u21251fb2mc702316cbaacc61f@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0910260456k80cc1f5p2c8f802613382a00@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0910260516nda98e9ay46c5bbead58e2d01@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0910300405u7862b20r66965635eb3232aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Some pages are missing from http://in.pycon.org website which were
> used to exist before.
>
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/base/Important%20Dates/
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/base/Site%20Howto/
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/base/Call%20for%20Proposals/
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/base/Sponsors%20for%20the%20Event/#zeomega
>
> Some of them are ?present in google cache still.
>
> http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:8SdVEku7CboJ:in.pycon.org/2009/base/Site%2520Howto/
> http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:DhykNbGBbngJ:in.pycon.org/2009/base/Call%2520for%2520Proposals/
>
> Kenneth, can you please fix them soon?
> Also please provide me dump of the database and tarball of code
> running the website so that I can archive it permanently.[..]


Kenneth, can you give Anand these things? We can take the site offline
from your server then and archive the content.

Thanks



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Mon Nov  2 02:03:44 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:33:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0910300405u7862b20r66965635eb3232aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911020633.45320.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>

On Sunday 01 Nov 2009 10:53:13 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Kenneth, can you give Anand these things? We can take the site offline
> from your server then and archive the content.
> 
done - only a small bug in the site to be fixed and he will be through
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Nov  2 02:24:35 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:54:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <200911020633.45320.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911020633.45320.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
Message-ID: <200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 6:33:44 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Sunday 01 Nov 2009 10:53:13 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > Kenneth, can you give Anand these things? We can take the site offline
> > from your server then and archive the content.
> > 
> 
> done - only a small bug in the site to be fixed and he will be through
> 
bug fixed
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 10:21:00 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:51:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911020633.45320.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>

I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
in.pycon.org is serving static content.

http://in.pycon.org/2009/

login, signup and managetalks links won't work anymore. I'll try to
add placeholder pages for those links.

I've archived the content and current version of the code.

http://in.pycon.org/archives/2009/

It has:

code.tgz - current version of fossconf code
content.tgz - all the website content
smedia.tgz - smedia sent by Kenneth, it seems to have some more files
than http://in.pycon.org/2009/smedia/. I've archived this just to be
sure of not loosing any files.

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Nov  2 10:38:29 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:08:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911021508.29263.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 2:51:00 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
> 

cool - so I can delete the stuff on my server? (I also have two copies of the 
backup files in two different locations)
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Nov  2 10:41:14 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:11:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911021511.14916.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 2:51:00 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
> 
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/
> 

good work - someday you must document how you did this. I was terrified that 
someone would ask me to do it.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 10:54:39 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:24:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <200911021508.29263.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org> 
	<41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911021508.29263.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0911020154y50714e56g461af3c2d350bc4c@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Monday 02 Nov 2009 2:51:00 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
>> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
>>
>
> cool - so I can delete the stuff on my server? (I also have two copies of the
> backup files in two different locations)

keep the server running for one more day. The DNS changes takes
sometime to propagate.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 11:09:42 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:39:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911010923n6456e876ke06fe155e15aa0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911020633.45320.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<200911020654.35867.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0911020121g42dbcffpc1ade29e7765f8ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911020209v4f19c9eapfaed37f43b93173a@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Anand.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
>
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/
>
> login, signup and managetalks links won't work anymore. I'll try to
> add placeholder pages for those links.
>
> I've archived the content and current version of the code.
>
> http://in.pycon.org/archives/2009/
>
> It has:
>
> code.tgz - current version of fossconf code
> content.tgz - all the website content
> smedia.tgz - smedia sent by Kenneth, it seems to have some more files
> than http://in.pycon.org/2009/smedia/. I've archived this just to be
> sure of not loosing any files.
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Mon Nov  2 11:22:10 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:52:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911020154y50714e56g461af3c2d350bc4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911021508.29263.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0911020154y50714e56g461af3c2d350bc4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911021552.10928.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 3:24:39 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 02 Nov 2009 2:51:00 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> >> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
> >> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
> >
> > cool - so I can delete the stuff on my server? (I also have two copies of
> > the backup files in two different locations)
> 
> keep the server running for one more day. The DNS changes takes
> sometime to propagate.
> 
http://in.pycon.org/2009/postsfull/4/   <--- b0rked
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 11:30:32 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:00:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <200911021552.10928.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911021508.29263.lawgon@au-kbc.org> 
	<41139fcb0911020154y50714e56g461af3c2d350bc4c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911021552.10928.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0911020230y3466701cnf01e571df8959957@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> On Monday 02 Nov 2009 3:24:39 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
>> > On Monday 02 Nov 2009 2:51:00 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> >> I've changed IP address of in.pycon.org to point to my server. Now
>> >> in.pycon.org is serving static content.
>> >
>> > cool - so I can delete the stuff on my server? (I also have two copies of
>> > the backup files in two different locations)
>>
>> keep the server running for one more day. The DNS changes takes
>> sometime to propagate.
>>
> http://in.pycon.org/2009/postsfull/4/ ? <--- b0rked

Yes. I think it is because it doesn't have any inward link. Not even
from http://in.pycon.org/2009/posts/ page.

Can you keep your server available on some URL, so that I can download
that page?

Anand

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Mon Nov  2 11:48:51 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:18:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] server reconfiguration
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911020230y3466701cnf01e571df8959957@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200910151012.19209.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911021552.10928.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<41139fcb0911020230y3466701cnf01e571df8959957@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911021618.51359.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>

On Monday 02 Nov 2009 4:00:32 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> Can you keep your server available on some URL, so that I can download
> that page?
> 

I will put it back on greenchilly - but only tomorrow
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 07:10:09 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:40:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,
   I've been in touch with the lawyer about the society and he's sent
me a draft of the Society registration document. I've put it here
http://nibrahim.net.in/Noufal-Society.doc rather than attaching it to
this email.

   It's quite tedious but I think the only blanks that need to be
filled are the ones regarding the 'aims and objectives' on top. The
rest is boilerplate.

   Also, the cost of doing this (excluding lawyer fees) is 15000 INR.
The fees for the lawyer is 5000 INR. So we have to cough up a total of
20000 INR to get this done.

   If someone with experience in this can comment on the price as well
as the document, it'd be great and I can push the chap to take things
forward.

Thanks.
-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Wed Nov  4 07:21:24 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:51:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911041151.25124.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>

On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 11:40:09 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>    I've been in touch with the lawyer about the society and he's sent
> me a draft of the Society registration document. I've put it here
> http://nibrahim.net.in/Noufal-Society.doc rather than attaching it to
> this email.
> 

this person is charging 5K to give you an unedited copy of a building 
apartment society document? And what is the 15K for? AFAIK a society 
registration takes only a few hundred rupees. (I haven't done one for some 
years, but I do know it does not take 15K). Lawyers are supposed to be paid 
for 'application of mind'. It does not look like this gentleman has done so.
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 07:26:15 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:56:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <200911041151.25124.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911041151.25124.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 11:40:09 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> ? ?I've been in touch with the lawyer about the society and he's sent
>> me a draft of the Society registration document. I've put it here
>> http://nibrahim.net.in/Noufal-Society.doc rather than attaching it to
>> this email.
>>
>
> this person is charging 5K to give you an unedited copy of a building
> apartment society document?

I believe that's the total fees to be paid to him *after* the society
is registered. His total fees (not just for the doc).

> And what is the 15K for? AFAIK a society
> registration takes only a few hundred rupees. (I haven't done one for some
> years, but I do know it does not take 15K). Lawyers are supposed to be paid
> for 'application of mind'. It does not look like this gentleman has done so.

I'll get back to him on this and let you know what he says.


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From kausikram at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 07:43:52 2009
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:13:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911041151.25124.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2597ddb90911032243y7aad74dcr7114981558ea4db2@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > And what is the 15K for? AFAIK a society
> > registration takes only a few hundred rupees. (I haven't done one for
> some
> > years, but I do know it does not take 15K). Lawyers are supposed to be
> paid
> > for 'application of mind'. It does not look like this gentleman has done
> so.
>
> I'll get back to him on this and let you know what he says.


We incurred somewhere between 5k to 6k all put together for registering a
society earlier this  year. we used a company secretary to do the filing. he
was also retained for a year to do all the tax filings.  15k sounds
too steep.

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
chaosbudha.blogspot.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov  4 07:41:40 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:11:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911041151.25124.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911041211.40318.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 11:56:15 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> 
> <lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 11:40:09 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> >>    I've been in touch with the lawyer about the society and he's sent
> >> me a draft of the Society registration document. I've put it here
> >> http://nibrahim.net.in/Noufal-Society.doc rather than attaching it to
> >> this email.
> >
> > this person is charging 5K to give you an unedited copy of a building
> > apartment society document?
> 
> I believe that's the total fees to be paid to him after the society
> is registered. His total fees (not just for the doc).

look at this:
http://www.karmayog.com/ros.htm
all we need is a very simple couple of documents complying with this. I see 
that for an all india character one needs 8 people from 8 different states. I 
also see that the registration fee is 50 rupees. So give him a draft in plain 
language of the points we want. Scientific society/promotion of python/ conduct 
of annual pycon - that is enough. Power to operate bank accounts. Who is to 
operate them. Yearly elections. No office bearer except treasurer to hold office 
for more than two terms. apart from this, any statutory requirements. Thats 
all. Keep it simple. If he takes trouble over crafting this carefully, he is 
worth 5K else he is not worth 2 paise.
> 
> > And what is the 15K for? AFAIK a society
> > registration takes only a few hundred rupees. (I haven't done one for
> > some years, but I do know it does not take 15K). Lawyers are supposed to
> > be paid for 'application of mind'. It does not look like this gentleman
> > has done so.
> 
> I'll get back to him on this and let you know what he says.
> 

max a few thousand (given that this is Bangalore). I have got pvt ltd 
companies registered at a comparable cost to what he is quoting.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov  4 07:52:59 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:22:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <2597ddb90911032243y7aad74dcr7114981558ea4db2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0911032226q768e041aw3b148eada188caa3@mail.gmail.com>
	<2597ddb90911032243y7aad74dcr7114981558ea4db2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911041222.59499.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 12:13:52 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> > I'll get back to him on this and let you know what he says.
> 
> We incurred somewhere between 5k to 6k all put together for registering a
> society earlier this  year. we used a company secretary to do the filing.
>  he was also retained for a year to do all the tax filings.  15k sounds too
>  steep.
> 
company secretaries are higher up the food chain than lawyers

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 09:06:59 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:36:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <200911041222.59499.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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This is way too steep.
I'm sorry I introduced this guy.
 Kenneth, can we get this thing done out of ooty, I'm sure your own friends
in the circle can actually get it done at less than Rs 5000.

Ramdas

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 12:13:52 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> > > I'll get back to him on this and let you know what he says.
> >
> > We incurred somewhere between 5k to 6k all put together for registering a
> > society earlier this  year. we used a company secretary to do the filing.
> >  he was also retained for a year to do all the tax filings.  15k sounds
> too
> >  steep.
> >
> company secretaries are higher up the food chain than lawyers
>
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> _______________________________________________
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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 09:19:03 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:49:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is way too steep.
> I'm sorry I introduced this guy.
> ?Kenneth, can we get this thing done out of ooty, I'm sure your own friends
> in the circle can actually get it done at less than Rs 5000.

I'm sure that this person has some idea of what the market rates are.
It's perhaps a decent gambit to ask for 10% more than the market rate
assuming that the customer is clueless but from what you guys say,
this is quite outrageous. I'm beginning to doubt whether I
heard/understood him correctly. I will go back to him later in the
evening and ask him again how much it will cost to double check.

Once he confirms the 15k, we'll say no and look for someone else.




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 09:48:40 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:18:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is way too steep.
> > I'm sorry I introduced this guy.
> >  Kenneth, can we get this thing done out of ooty, I'm sure your own
> friends
> > in the circle can actually get it done at less than Rs 5000.
>
> I'm sure that this person has some idea of what the market rates are.
> It's perhaps a decent gambit to ask for 10% more than the market rate
> assuming that the customer is clueless but from what you guys say,
> this is quite outrageous. I'm beginning to doubt whether I
> heard/understood him correctly. I will go back to him later in the
> evening and ask him again how much it will cost to double check.
>

  Or just subscribe him to this list and ask him to read these
conversations...


>
> Once he confirms the 15k, we'll say no and look for someone else.
>
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 14:07:22 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:37:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] request
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00911040507y1deeb20hb4660e23246673b7@mail.gmail.com>

There were a couple of cool little apps discussed during the lightning talks
during pycon.

1) On some badge printing
2) application for generating cool web domain names

can the authors or someone share the links please

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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 15:00:49 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:30:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] request
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References: <6e38f9f00911040507y1deeb20hb4660e23246673b7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> There were a couple of cool little apps discussed during the lightning talks
> during pycon.
>
> 1) On some badge printing

This one was by Kausik.

> 2) application for generating cool web domain names

I missed this.

>
> can the authors or someone share the links please
>
> --
> Ramdas S
> +91 9342 583 065
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>



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http://nibrahim.net.in

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 15:29:12 2009
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:59:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] request
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2) application for generating cool web domain names

by Abhishek Mishra (ideamonk):
link of app : http://web2hunter.appspot.com/
blog link : http://ideamonk.blogspot.com/



On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > There were a couple of cool little apps discussed during the lightning
> talks
> > during pycon.
> >
> > 1) On some badge printing
>
> This one was by Kausik.
>
> > 2) application for generating cool web domain names
>
> I missed this.
>
> >
> > can the authors or someone share the links please
> >
> > --
> > Ramdas S
> > +91 9342 583 065
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From kausikram at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 20:43:40 2009
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:13:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] request
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911040507y1deeb20hb4660e23246673b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911040507y1deeb20hb4660e23246673b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2597ddb90911041143s7cbf1391q71765b63a5cdbd56@mail.gmail.com>

>
> 1) On some badge printing
>

the original code that siddharta wrote for proto.in 2007 is here:
http://code.google.com/p/event-badge-generator/

<http://code.google.com/p/event-badge-generator/>however what you saw at the
other day is a far more mutated, refactored and cleaned up version of this.
Will soon find the time to push all the changes into the trunk along with
tests. until then have fun with the current trunk.

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov  5 02:28:17 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:58:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Wednesday 04 Nov 2009 1:49:03 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is way too steep.
> > I'm sorry I introduced this guy.
> >  Kenneth, can we get this thing done out of ooty, I'm sure your own
> > friends in the circle can actually get it done at less than Rs 5000.
> 
> I'm sure that this person has some idea of what the market rates are.
> It's perhaps a decent gambit to ask for 10% more than the market rate
> assuming that the customer is clueless but from what you guys say,
> this is quite outrageous. I'm beginning to doubt whether I
> heard/understood him correctly. I will go back to him later in the
> evening and ask him again how much it will cost to double check.
> 

like with programmers, it is cheaper with lawyers to get better lawyers. The 
ones lower on the food chain cost a lot and produce shoddy work. I am out of 
the practise of law, and would not be able to produce a professional work 
(which means a work that complies with all necessary statutes as I am out of 
touch. At the most I can advise on general principals)
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 11:19:33 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:49:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
upto.

Comments? Should we go for another lawyer? Any suggestions?

Thanks
-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 11:40:37 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:10:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
> 15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
> lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
> upto.
>
> Comments? Should we go for another lawyer? Any suggestions?

Yes. Please avoid anything under the table.

Anand

From kausikram at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 11:45:28 2009
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:15:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
> 15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
> lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
> upto.


There is no under table cost what so ever. its preparing a set of papers
filling it with the registrar of companies and then getting the certificate
signed and stamped. it requires time. because you might need to go to the
office a couple of times. but there is no dubious nature associated with the
process that warrants a big time under the table act.

Still High i guess.


-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
chaosbudha.blogspot.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 11:58:38 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:28:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
> 15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
> lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
> upto.
>
>
 Stinky lawyer.


> Comments? Should we go for another lawyer? Any suggestions?
>

 +1.


> Thanks
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 12:09:42 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:39:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <2597ddb90911060245o333539eaw96e623444fa1d331@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, kausikram krishnasayee
<kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
>> 15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
>> lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
>> upto.
>
> There is no under table cost what so ever. its preparing a set of papers
> filling it with the registrar of companies and then getting the certificate
> signed and stamped. it requires time. because you might need to go to the
> office a couple of times. but there is no dubious nature?associated?with the
> process that?warrants?a big time under the table act.
> Still High i guess.

Can anyone else recommend a lawyer then?




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 13:22:52 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:52:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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So, does anyone know another lawyer I can meet up with? I never
realised that this was going to be this sticky. :-/



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Nov  7 01:25:31 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:55:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Friday 06 Nov 2009 3:49:33 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I talked to him today and he says that he can do the whole thing for
> 15k including his fees. He says that these kinds of things involve a
> lot of under the table costs and this is what the total will come
> upto.
> 
> Comments? Should we go for another lawyer? Any suggestions?
> 

avoid this guy
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Nov  7 01:27:57 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:57:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Friday 06 Nov 2009 5:52:52 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> So, does anyone know another lawyer I can meet up with? I never
> realised that this was going to be this sticky. :-/
> 

now you know what lawyers face when trying to hire a programmer ;-) I will ask 
around. But be warned, most good lawyers are like tailors, plumbers (and 
progrmmers) in the sense that they take their own cool time to finish anything.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 06:31:30 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:01:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <200911070557.57376.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:

> On Friday 06 Nov 2009 5:52:52 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > So, does anyone know another lawyer I can meet up with? I never
> > realised that this was going to be this sticky. :-/
> >
>
> now you know what lawyers face when trying to hire a programmer ;-) I will
> ask
> around. But be warned, most good lawyers are like tailors, plumbers (and
> progrmmers) in the sense that they take their own cool time to finish
> anything.
> --
> re
>


> That's fine. The point is, if it's done out of a smaller town city, the
> costs will be lower...
>
> As far as I am aware, the guy is charging actually for the running around,
> and not so much for under the table activities. A Bangalore lawyer like a
> Bangalore programmer is likely to be expensive :)
>
> Kenneth, if you can ask around in Nilgiris we might actually get a less
> than Rs 5k a deal.
>
> I guess we can wait for a while for the turn around.
>
> What we need is a cheap lawyer not a good one. I dont think its rocket
> science taking a draft and making a few global changes in the doc, as  in
> case of a society registration! Once the society is registered, we can hire
> a part time accountant to do one time filing of returns... Can't cost ore
> 3-5 k
>
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Nov  7 06:36:43 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:06:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Saturday 07 Nov 2009 11:01:30 am Ramdas S wrote:
> > What we need is a cheap lawyer not a good one. I dont think its rocket
> > science taking a draft and making a few global changes in the doc, as  in
> > case of a society registration! Once the society is registered, we can
> > hire a part time accountant to do one time filing of returns... Can't
> > cost ore 3-5 k
> 

what we need is a good lawyer. not a cheapskate. I have spoken to some people 
in Bangalore. Please be patient.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 07:29:42 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:59:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Nov 2009 11:01:30 am Ramdas S wrote:
>> > What we need is a cheap lawyer not a good one. I dont think its rocket
>> > science taking a draft and making a few global changes in the doc, as ?in
>> > case of a society registration! Once the society is registered, we can
>> > hire a part time accountant to do one time filing of returns... Can't
>> > cost ore 3-5 k
>>
>
> what we need is a good lawyer. not a cheapskate. I have spoken to some people
> in Bangalore. Please be patient.
[..]

Thank you Kenneth. If there are any other leads which people have,
please let me know. Perhaps the Mahiti folks have contacts with a
couple of lawyers who they trust?

Thanks


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 10:32:56 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:02:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911062229y28ad9e86n1f08e07a7f9a2d48@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 Nov 2009 11:01:30 am Ramdas S wrote:
> >> > What we need is a cheap lawyer not a good one. I dont think its rocket
> >> > science taking a draft and making a few global changes in the doc, as
>  in
> >> > case of a society registration! Once the society is registered, we can
> >> > hire a part time accountant to do one time filing of returns... Can't
> >> > cost ore 3-5 k
> >>
> >
> > what we need is a good lawyer. not a cheapskate. I have spoken to some
> people
> > in Bangalore. Please be patient.
> [..]
>
> Thank you Kenneth. If there are any other leads which people have,
> please let me know. Perhaps the Mahiti folks have contacts with a
> couple of lawyers who they trust?
>

 I have a couple of 2nd level contacts in Bangalore. I can let you know by
Monday.


>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 17:01:19 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:31:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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Any leads? I'd like to speak to some people to get the ball rolling as
soon as possible.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 11 00:20:34 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:50:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 9:31:19 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Any leads? I'd like to speak to some people to get the ball rolling as
> soon as possible.
> 

I am expecting a reply today
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 06:37:07 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:07:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 9:31:19 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> Any leads? I'd like to speak to some people to get the ball rolling as
>> soon as possible.
>>
>
> I am expecting a reply today

Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
could speak to? Anyone?

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 12 06:42:13 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:12:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 11:07:07 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> 
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 9:31:19 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> >> Any leads? I'd like to speak to some people to get the ball rolling as
> >> soon as possible.
> >
> > I am expecting a reply today
> 
> Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
> could speak to? Anyone?
> 
got a shortlist of 3 people, am checking them out
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 12 06:49:16 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:19:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 11:12:13 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
> > could speak to? Anyone?
> > 
> 
> got a shortlist of 3 people, am checking them out
> 
btw, I understand a Kannada translation has to be made for filing. In my 
experience of the legal fraternity in Bangalore, they always make a total dogs 
breakfast of the Kannada translation - those lawyers that understand English 
do not understand Kannada and vice versa. Can someone here stand by to do the 
translation? (Pradeep G - hint, hint)
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 06:57:17 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:27:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 9:31:19 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> >> Any leads? I'd like to speak to some people to get the ball rolling as
> >> soon as possible.
> >>
> >
> > I am expecting a reply today
>
> Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
> could speak to? Anyone?
>

 Sorry, 1 lead fizzled out. I will find out about the other.
 I guess your best bet is Kenneth.




>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 07:03:01 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:33:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 11:12:13 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> > Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
>> > could speak to? Anyone?
>> >
>>
>> got a shortlist of 3 people, am checking them out
>>
> btw, I understand a Kannada translation has to be made for filing. In my
> experience of the legal fraternity in Bangalore, they always make a total dogs
> breakfast of the Kannada translation - those lawyers that understand English
> do not understand Kannada and vice versa. Can someone here stand by to do the
> translation? (Pradeep G - hint, hint)

Once we get a lawyer and start, I'm sure I can ask some of the guys on
the list who are fluent in Kannada (or even some other friends who are
from Bangalore) to pitch in when it's needed.

I atleast want to get a quote on how much it will cost etc. and get
the ball rolling. Otherwise, this whole initiative is going to fizzle
out. You know the drill.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 07:27:19 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:57:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 11:12:13 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> >> > Any news? Anand. You mentioned that you had some contacts which we
> >> > could speak to? Anyone?
> >> >
> >>
> >> got a shortlist of 3 people, am checking them out
> >>
> > btw, I understand a Kannada translation has to be made for filing. In my
> > experience of the legal fraternity in Bangalore, they always make a total
> dogs
> > breakfast of the Kannada translation - those lawyers that understand
> English
> > do not understand Kannada and vice versa. Can someone here stand by to do
> the
> > translation? (Pradeep G - hint, hint)
>
> Once we get a lawyer and start, I'm sure I can ask some of the guys on
> the list who are fluent in Kannada (or even some other friends who are
> from Bangalore) to pitch in when it's needed.
>
> I atleast want to get a quote on how much it will cost etc. and get
> the ball rolling. Otherwise, this whole initiative is going to fizzle
> out. You know the drill.
>


In case we are not able to resolve this by Monday, please go back to the
original guy, knock him down to 10,000 and close this, I can talk to him or
the guy who referred me to him. I know it pinches, but we just don't  have
the time to run behind this like this. We need to actually think of things
beyond registering the society.

I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
range.

Btw Pradeep is in US,we may have to scan and send the docs.....





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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 12 07:27:19 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:57:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911112227v605f0e2eid901e11190821b6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 11:57:19 am Ramdas S wrote:
> In case we are not able to resolve this by Monday, please go back to the
> original guy, knock him down to 10,000 and close this, I can talk to him or
> the guy who referred me to him. I know it pinches, but we just don't  have
> the time to run behind this like this. We need to actually think of things
> beyond registering the society.

anything worth doing is worth doing properly. There is a consensus against 
under-the-table payments.
> 
> I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
> range.
> 
> Btw Pradeep is in US,we may have to scan and send the docs.....
> 
no big deal - no need to scan also.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 07:35:38 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:05:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> In case we are not able to resolve this by Monday, please go back to the
> original guy, knock him down to 10,000 and close this, I can talk to him or
> the guy who referred me to him. I know it pinches, but we just don't? have
> the time to run behind this like this. We need to actually think of things
> beyond registering the society.
>
> I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
> range.[..]

Kausik mentioned doing a registration recently for less than 10k. Or
am I missing something here?

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 12 07:37:37 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:07:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:05:38 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
> > range.[..]
> 
> Kausik mentioned doing a registration recently for less than 10k. Or
> am I missing something here?
> 
in Chennai - registration + annual filing - this is what I am negotiating.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From kausikram at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 08:32:25 2009
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:02:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <200911121207.37280.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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>
> in Chennai - registration + annual filing - this is what I am negotiating.


i will push the details of my guy to kenneth and will also see if he can
file it in bangalore.

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Nov 14 03:57:15 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:27:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 1:02:25 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> > in Chennai - registration + annual filing - this is what I am
> > negotiating.
> 
> i will push the details of my guy to kenneth and will also see if he can
> file it in bangalore.
> 

no news as yet from your guy. Meanwhile my efforts have also ended in failure. 
We contacted three reliable CAs. Two of them backed out saying that their 
lawyers had taken them for a ride the previous time and were not willing to 
guarantee their performance. The third has a 'stinky' lawyer. Since it does 
not really matter where the society is registered, or where the bank account 
is, it may be better to register it where we can get trustworthy lawyers - 
maybe Chennai or even Ooty if it comes to that.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat Nov 14 05:29:15 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:14:15 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 08:42, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
[.......]
> is, it may be better to register it where we can get trustworthy lawyers -

Has anyone tried pinging folks from altlawforum.org in bangalore? I
have Lawrence Liang's cell number but am not sure if he would like it
listed here and I dont know if they will take up this work so please
mail: lawrence AT altlawforum D0T org or arvind AT altlawforum D0T org
to find out if this is their field of interest.  Also try contacting
prasanth AT cyberjuris D0T in , who iirc was associated with altlaw
earlier.

hth,
-- 
|| vid | http://svaksha.com ||

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Sun Nov 15 02:59:40 2009
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:29:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
Message-ID: <d4ab53de0911141759j14a35420ydc3bf1051096a03f@mail.gmail.com>

The scheduled talks for PyCon (US) announced :

http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sun Nov 15 05:14:52 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:44:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
In-Reply-To: <d4ab53de0911141759j14a35420ydc3bf1051096a03f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 7:29:40 am Shashwat Anand wrote:
> The scheduled talks for PyCon (US) announced :
> 
> http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
> 
amazing the number of beginner talks!
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From rmathews at gmail.com  Sun Nov 15 06:18:14 2009
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:48:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
In-Reply-To: <200911150944.52578.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 7:29:40 am Shashwat Anand wrote:
>> The scheduled talks for PyCon (US) announced :
>>
>> http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
>>
> amazing the number of beginner talks!
>
Less than 15% which is a good balance.

Is http://pyconindia.blip.tv/ where the videos of PyCon India are to
be found?  I remember there being some discussion of low-res and
high-res versions, and torrents ...

-- 
Roshan Mathews
http://teamtalk.im

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Sun Nov 15 06:21:57 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:51:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
In-Reply-To: <1c4dc2780911142118s1a67b603sf0240bcd43923cf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d4ab53de0911141759j14a35420ydc3bf1051096a03f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 10:48:14 am Roshan Mathews wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> 
wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 7:29:40 am Shashwat Anand wrote:
> >> The scheduled talks for PyCon (US) announced :
> >>
> >> http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
> >
> > amazing the number of beginner talks!
> 
> Less than 15% which is a good balance.
> 

more than 0% - which is amazing in a country like the US - even in humble 
third world countries like ours we have people sneering at newbie talks. I 
have not been following pycon, but is this a new trend? Even I could have 
given one or two of the selected talks! Like using webfaction for example.
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Nov 15 06:32:19 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:02:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
In-Reply-To: <200911151051.57993.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
References: <d4ab53de0911141759j14a35420ydc3bf1051096a03f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 10:48:14 am Roshan Mathews wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
[..]

> more than 0% - which is amazing in a country like the US - even in humble
> third world countries like ours we have people sneering at newbie talks.

I don't think so. We had a lot of requests during our conference for
introductory and basic talks. Also, the tutorial track was pretty
filled up the first day.



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Sun Nov 15 07:17:47 2009
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:47:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon talks
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911142132m114b1580j1b82a0315c75c3a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d4ab53de0911141759j14a35420ydc3bf1051096a03f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911150944.52578.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<1c4dc2780911142118s1a67b603sf0240bcd43923cf2@mail.gmail.com>
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It was necessary IMHO as python gets promoted itself when a beginner
entangled in the mess of C++/Java try python. The crowd for beginner's talk
was overwhelming though.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 Nov 2009 10:48:14 am Roshan Mathews wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > wrote:
> [..]
>
> > more than 0% - which is amazing in a country like the US - even in humble
> > third world countries like ours we have people sneering at newbie talks.
>
> I don't think so. We had a lot of requests during our conference for
> introductory and basic talks. Also, the tutorial track was pretty
> filled up the first day.
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 07:11:19 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:41:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911112227v605f0e2eid901e11190821b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> In case we are not able to resolve this by Monday, please go back to the
> original guy, knock him down to 10,000 and close this, I can talk to him or
> the guy who referred me to him. I know it pinches, but we just don't? have
> the time to run behind this like this. We need to actually think of things
> beyond registering the society.
>
> I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
> range.
[..]

I'll call him today and fix it. 10-15k it is then. Anyone see any problems?

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Nov 17 02:29:54 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:59:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Monday 16 Nov 2009 11:41:19 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
> > range.
> 
> [..]
> 
> I'll call him today and fix it. 10-15k it is then. Anyone see any problems?
> 

I object to paying under the table money - we can do it in Chennai or 
elsewhere. It does not matter where the society is registered as long as we 
open a bank account - and it does not matter where the account is as long as 
it is in India.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 05:43:17 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:13:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Monday 16 Nov 2009 11:41:19 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > I checked with couple more lawyers, and everyone is in the 15,000 bucks
>> > range.
>>
>> [..]
>>
>> I'll call him today and fix it. 10-15k it is then. Anyone see any problems?
>>
>
> I object to paying under the table money - we can do it in Chennai or
> elsewhere. It does not matter where the society is registered as long as we
> open a bank account - and it does not matter where the account is as long as
> it is in India.
[..]

I don't know how much of it is under the table and how much of it is
official. Ramdas contacted some people here and said that everyone was
charging around 10-15k. I guess that's pretty much the going rate. Are
things very different in Chennai?


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Nov 17 06:05:26 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:35:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911162043m5e8b4d6bw46987786286c66bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911170659.54617.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Message-ID: <200911171035.26562.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 17 Nov 2009 10:13:17 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > I object to paying under the table money - we can do it in Chennai or
> > elsewhere. It does not matter where the society is registered as long as
> > we open a bank account - and it does not matter where the account is as
> > long as it is in India.
> 
> [..]
> 
> I don't know how much of it is under the table and how much of it is
> official. Ramdas contacted some people here and said that everyone was
> charging around 10-15k. I guess that's pretty much the going rate. Are
> things very different in Chennai?
> 
the registration is Rs.50/-, maybe translation costs a few hundreds - the 
remaining 9K odd is under the table, with probably the lawyer taking the 
lion's share. Most good lawyers and chartered accountants in Bangalore refuse 
to deal with govt officials. They draft the thing, prepare everything and ask 
you you to hire a tout to get things done. Yes, even in Chennai or Ooty you 
may have to shell out some 'speed money' - but not on this scale. I'm just 
checking the rates in Ooty - if ok it can be done hassle free.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 16:53:22 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:23:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <200911171035.26562.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> > I don't know how much of it is under the table and how much of it is
> > official. Ramdas contacted some people here and said that everyone was
> > charging around 10-15k. I guess that's pretty much the going rate. Are
> > things very different in Chennai?
> >
> the registration is Rs.50/-, maybe translation costs a few hundreds - the
> remaining 9K odd is under the table, with probably the lawyer taking the
> lion's share. Most good lawyers and chartered accountants in Bangalore
> refuse
> to deal with govt officials. They draft the thing, prepare everything and
> ask
> you you to hire a tout to get things done. Yes, even in Chennai or Ooty you
> may have to shell out some 'speed money' - but not on this scale. I'm just
> checking the rates in Ooty - if ok it can be done hassle free.
>

In Bangalore you cannot get it done at a cheaper rate unless we have a
lawyer who'll be willing to waive off their fees. I spoke with my personal
lawyer and he said he doesn't do such jobs, but explained that the leg work
needed to get things done without paying bribes is huge, and may involve
someone forced to run around four to five times due to red tapism, which is
effort at the lawyer's side and he'll charge for it. Otherwise if the lawyer
needs to get it done fast, he needs to bribe.



Either way the point is  its going to cost us money and this'll be to the
tune of Rs 10-15 K in Bangalore

I had suggested in an earlier mail in this thread, checking whether this can
be done at any other city or town, where the legal fees and running around
costs are lower.

I think it's a good idea to do the exercise off  Ooty, since Kenneth is down
there.  I'd imagine that the costs whether legal fees or other charges will
be less than 5000.

My lawyer tells me, as long as there's consensus among key community guys,
it really doesn't matter where it's registered, any Indian can become a
member and also key functionary.

With all due respect to everyone here, we also need to set a deadline to
these things. If we are not finding a reliable alternative out of Ooty by
say Nov 27th or December 1st , we'll need to fall up on the first option in
Bangalore.
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 20:18:53 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:48:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
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References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>[..]
>
> With all due respect to everyone here, we also need to set a deadline to
> these things. If we are not finding a reliable alternative out of Ooty by
> say Nov 27th or December 1st , we'll need to fall up on the first option in
> Bangalore.
>[..]

+1


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 18 01:22:32 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:52:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Society updates
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911171118r1473e530gee083028500ae393@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0911032210w5d4091bas7cb569758701bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00911170753o274d37bcy63f48a02ca7fb5ba@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 12:48:53 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > With all due respect to everyone here, we also need to set a deadline to
> > these things. If we are not finding a reliable alternative out of Ooty by
> > say Nov 27th or December 1st , we'll need to fall up on the first option
> > in Bangalore.
> >[..]
> 
> +1
> 

I will have a reply sometime today
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 18 15:24:08 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
Message-ID: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

hi,

we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this 
registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do not 
practice law!

anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a couple 
of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate expenses 
will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus lawyers 
fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have to 
bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for it. We 
need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of 
residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra? That is 
4. NCR 	could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from tripura 
-surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We need 
this list in a day or two.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 16:07:16 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:37:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> hi,
>
> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do not
> practice law!
>
> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a couple
> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate expenses
> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus lawyers
> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have to
> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for it. We
> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra? That is
> 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from tripura
> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We need
> this list in a day or two.

I can pitch in from Kerala.
-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 18:37:53 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:07:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00911180937s2bd3ae74q5df99646b48fff66@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009

> ub from tripura
> > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We
> need
> > this list in a day or two.
>
>
Great!

What is the proof of residence docs required? Please specify.


I think we will easily get 4 states apart from the four southern states.
Will ask Fred whether he can be party to the crime from Goa...
We have the fossee gang from Mumbai.

This should not be a problem. I've proof of residence in Karnataka...





-- 
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+91 9342 583 065
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From sayamindu at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 18:41:18 2009
From: sayamindu at gmail.com (Sayamindu Dasgupta)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:11:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
>> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do not
>> practice law!
>>
>> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a couple
>> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate expenses
>> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus lawyers
>> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have to
>> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for it. We
>> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
>> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra? That is
>> 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from tripura
>> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We need
>> this list in a day or two.
>
> I can pitch in from Kerala.

Count me in from West Bengal
-sdg-




-- 
Sayamindu Dasgupta
[http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 19 01:47:12 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:17:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200911190617.12211.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 7:54:08 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
>  couple  of days (no cost).
> 

work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential skeleton, 
after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities. Please feel free 
to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR 
DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton is ready, I will let you 
know so that you can start adding/editing. Till then keep discussion on this 
list. Of course, those who are willing to subscribe (from 8 states) may add 
their details in the appropriate place. There is no limit to this number, more 
than one person from a state can subscribe. Please note that this is a public 
document and all details you enter will be available to the public for all 
time.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 19 01:58:02 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:28:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911190617.12211.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911190617.12211.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200911190628.02228.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
>  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities.
>  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but
>  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton is
>  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing. Till then
>  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
>  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate place.
>  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state can
>  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all details you
>  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> 

oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 05:32:12 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911190628.02228.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911190617.12211.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911190628.02228.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> >  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities.
> >  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but
> >  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton
> is
> >  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing. Till
> then
> >  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
> >  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate
> place.
> >  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state can
> >  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all details
> you
> >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
>


I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.

>
>
> oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> _______________________________________________
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 19 05:45:17 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:15:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911190628.02228.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911191015.17842.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> 
> I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.
> 

cool - please add your name

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 06:16:19 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:46:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911191015.17842.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911190628.02228.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911191015.17842.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911182116o2ad32e73m53f462dc7da79d90@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>> > > ?enter will be available to the public for all time.
>>
>> I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.
>>
>
> cool - please add your name

What are the proof of residence documents that you'd need?


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 19 06:18:53 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0911182116o2ad32e73m53f462dc7da79d90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911191015.17842.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0911182116o2ad32e73m53f462dc7da79d90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911191048.53813.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 10:46:19 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> 
wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> >> > >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> >>
> >> I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.
> >
> > cool - please add your name
> 
> What are the proof of residence documents that you'd need?
> 

details are on the wiki page
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From sree at mahiti.org  Thu Nov 19 06:23:30 2009
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:53:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <313529610911182123s17b431bbpf46ac3c9e7d2e99f@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/18 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>

> hi,
>
> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do not
> practice law!
>
> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> couple
> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate expenses
> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus lawyers
> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have to
> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for
> it.
>

I will share these expenses. Let me know how much it is and we can workout
the details offline.
- sree
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From b.ghose at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 13:03:05 2009
From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:33:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <a9acd2e50911190403oaf4d1d4k7b7f88fdaefe1fed@mail.gmail.com>

KG,

> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra? That is
> 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from tripura
> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We need
> this list in a day or two.

What kind of document is permissible as a proof of residence? If you
let me know now, I will ask my parents to mail it to me in advance.

Regards,
BG

-- 
Baishampayan Ghose
b.ghose at gmail.com

From lawgon at thenilgiris.com  Fri Nov 20 01:34:33 2009
From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <a9acd2e50911190403oaf4d1d4k7b7f88fdaefe1fed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<a9acd2e50911190403oaf4d1d4k7b7f88fdaefe1fed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911200604.33276.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>

On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 5:33:05 pm Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> > need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> > residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> > That is 4. NCR  could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub
> > from tripura -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from
> > jarkhand? We need this list in a day or two.
> 
> What kind of document is permissible as a proof of residence? If you
> let me know now, I will ask my parents to mail it to me in advance.
> 

check out the wiki page
-- 
regards
kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 20 01:47:34 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:17:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911200604.33276.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<a9acd2e50911190403oaf4d1d4k7b7f88fdaefe1fed@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911200604.33276.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
Message-ID: <200911200617.34565.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 20 Nov 2009 6:04:33 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > What kind of document is permissible as a proof of residence? If you
> > let me know now, I will ask my parents to mail it to me in advance.
> > 
> 
> check out the wiki page
> 

apologies, it is not there. Here it is:

'Ration Card/Election P Card/ or any other identity proof required in respect 
of all desirous persons.' - basically anything the railways accept
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 04:35:32 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:05:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <200911200617.34565.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200911181954.08501.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<a9acd2e50911190403oaf4d1d4k7b7f88fdaefe1fed@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911200604.33276.lawgon@thenilgiris.com>
	<200911200617.34565.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <20091121033531.GC4221@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:17:34AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > check out the wiki page

Nice effort going on here.  Thank you and congrats Kenneth.
I shall look around and see if I can be of any help too.

-- 
Senthil

From tiwariabhishekin at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 11:51:50 2009
From: tiwariabhishekin at gmail.com (Abhishek Tiwari)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:21:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Inpycon Digest, Vol 7, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2465.1258605135.2872.inpycon@python.org>
References: <mailman.2465.1258605135.2872.inpycon@python.org>
Message-ID: <50d982690911240251h39a4e1aqb6395628998c2bdd@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

I was out of the city.

If you required address proof from UP. I belong to kanpur and can provide my
address proof.

please let me know.


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>
> hi,
>
> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do not
> practice law!
>
> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> couple
> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate expenses
> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus lawyers
> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have to
> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for
> it. We
> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra? That
> is
> 4. NCR  could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> tripura
> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We
> need
> this list in a day or two.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:37:16 +0530
> From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> Message-ID:
>        <9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> > registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do
> not
> > practice law!
> >
> > anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> couple
> > of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate
> expenses
> > will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus
> lawyers
> > fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have
> to
> > bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for
> it. We
> > need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> > residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> That is
> > 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> tripura
> > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We
> need
> > this list in a day or two.
>
> I can pitch in from Kerala.
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:07:53 +0530
> From: Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com>
> To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> Message-ID:
>        <6e38f9f00911180937s2bd3ae74q5df99646b48fff66 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009
>
> > ub from tripura
> > > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand?
> We
> > need
> > > this list in a day or two.
> >
> >
> Great!
>
> What is the proof of residence docs required? Please specify.
>
>
> I think we will easily get 4 states apart from the four southern states.
> Will ask Fred whether he can be party to the crime from Goa...
> We have the fossee gang from Mumbai.
>
> This should not be a problem. I've proof of residence in Karnataka...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ramdas S
> +91 9342 583 065
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>        <a1314bfe0911180941u42137c7cp91965f8341cdfba2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote:
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> >> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do
> not
> >> practice law!
> >>
> >> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> couple
> >> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate
> expenses
> >> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus
> lawyers
> >> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have
> to
> >> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for
> it. We
> >> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> >> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> That is
> >> 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> tripura
> >> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand?
> We need
> >> this list in a day or two.
> >
> > I can pitch in from Kerala.
>
> Count me in from West Bengal
> -sdg-
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sayamindu Dasgupta
> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:17:12 +0530
> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> Message-ID: <200911190617.12211.lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 7:54:08 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> >  couple  of days (no cost).
> >
>
> work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential skeleton,
> after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities. Please feel
> free
> to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR
> DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton is ready, I will let you
> know so that you can start adding/editing. Till then keep discussion on
> this
> list. Of course, those who are willing to subscribe (from 8 states) may add
> their details in the appropriate place. There is no limit to this number,
> more
> than one person from a state can subscribe. Please note that this is a
> public
> document and all details you enter will be available to the public for all
> time.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:28:02 +0530
> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> Message-ID: <200911190628.02228.lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> >  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities.
> >  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but
> >  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton
> is
> >  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing. Till
> then
> >  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
> >  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate
> place.
> >  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state can
> >  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all details
> you
> >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> >
>
> oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 +0530
> From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>
> To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> Message-ID:
>        <8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org
> >wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> > >  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory
> necessities.
> > >  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft,
> but
> > >  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton
> > is
> > >  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing. Till
> > then
> > >  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
> > >  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate
> > place.
> > >  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state
> can
> > >  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all details
> > you
> > >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> >
>
>
> I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.
>
> >
> >
> > oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
> > --
> > regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > Senior Project Officer
> > NRC-FOSS
> > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
>
>
>
> --
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From tiwariabhishekin at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 17:12:20 2009
From: tiwariabhishekin at gmail.com (Abhishek Tiwari)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
Message-ID: <50d982690911240812s32302853ra5136de34dfcfed@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

I was out of the city.

If you required address proof from UP. I belong to kanpur and can provide my
address proof.

please let me know.

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> hi,
>
> I was out of the city.
>
> If you required address proof from UP. I belong to kanpur and can provide
> my
> address proof.
>
> please let me know.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM, <inpycon-request at python.org> wrote:
>
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> >   1. society registration (Kenneth Gonsalves)
> >   2. Re: society registration (Noufal Ibrahim)
> >   3. Re: society registration (Ramdas S)
> >   4. Re: society registration (Sayamindu Dasgupta)
> >   5. Re: society registration (Kenneth Gonsalves)
> >   6. Re: society registration (Kenneth Gonsalves)
> >   7. Re: society registration (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0530
> > From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > To: inpycon at python.org
> > Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID: <200911181954.08501.lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> > registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do
> not
> > practice law!
> >
> > anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> > couple
> > of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate
> expenses
> > will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus
> lawyers
> > fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have
> to
> > bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay for
> > it. We
> > need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> > residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> That
> > is
> > 4. NCR  could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> > tripura
> > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand? We
> > need
> > this list in a day or two.
> > --
> > regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > Senior Project Officer
> > NRC-FOSS
> > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:37:16 +0530
> > From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID:
> >        <9963e56e0911180707u554de99cwe4f2d27447f1cf49 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that this
> > > registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I do
> > not
> > > practice law!
> > >
> > > anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> > couple
> > > of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate
> > expenses
> > > will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus
> > lawyers
> > > fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we have
> > to
> > > bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay
> for
> > it. We
> > > need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> > > residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> > That is
> > > 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> > tripura
> > > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand?
> We
> > need
> > > this list in a day or two.
> >
> > I can pitch in from Kerala.
> > --
> > ~noufal
> > http://nibrahim.net.in
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:07:53 +0530
> > From: Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID:
> >        <6e38f9f00911180937s2bd3ae74q5df99646b48fff66 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009
> >
> > > ub from tripura
> > > > -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from
> jarkhand?
> > We
> > > need
> > > > this list in a day or two.
> > >
> > >
> > Great!
> >
> > What is the proof of residence docs required? Please specify.
> >
> >
> > I think we will easily get 4 states apart from the four southern states.
> > Will ask Fred whether he can be party to the crime from Goa...
> > We have the fossee gang from Mumbai.
> >
> > This should not be a problem. I've proof of residence in Karnataka...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ramdas S
> > +91 9342 583 065
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> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:11:18 +0530
> > From: Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID:
> >        <a1314bfe0911180941u42137c7cp91965f8341cdfba2 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> hi,
> > >>
> > >> we have discussed with the registar in Ooty and he assures us that
> this
> > >> registration can be done 'under rupees 1000'. Now you all know why I
> do
> > not
> > >> practice law!
> > >>
> > >> anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> > couple
> > >> of days (no cost). I will handle the registration - all legitimate
> > expenses
> > >> will be billed to the society (should be a few hundred rupees plus
> > lawyers
> > >> fees of 1000 - I am not the lawyer). The illegitimate expenses, we
> have
> > to
> > >> bear - if anyone feels like chipping in, fine - otherwise I will pay
> for
> > it. We
> > >> need 8 people from 8 states. Tamilnadu is no problem - I have proof of
> > >> residence. So who is from Kn, Kerala (Noufal?), Maharashatra, Andhra?
> > That is
> > >> 4. NCR ?could produce people from Delhi, Haryana and UP. 7. G0sub from
> > tripura
> > >> -surely we have someone resident in Bengal? Or get ajay from jarkhand?
> > We need
> > >> this list in a day or two.
> > >
> > > I can pitch in from Kerala.
> >
> > Count me in from West Bengal
> > -sdg-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sayamindu Dasgupta
> > [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:17:12 +0530
> > From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID: <200911190617.12211.lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 7:54:08 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > > anyway, I will draft the MOA and bye-laws and submit them to you in a
> > >  couple  of days (no cost).
> > >
> >
> > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> skeleton,
> > after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory necessities. Please feel
> > free
> > to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft, but PLEASE DO NOT ADD
> OR
> > DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton is ready, I will let
> you
> > know so that you can start adding/editing. Till then keep discussion on
> > this
> > list. Of course, those who are willing to subscribe (from 8 states) may
> add
> > their details in the appropriate place. There is no limit to this number,
> > more
> > than one person from a state can subscribe. Please note that this is a
> > public
> > document and all details you enter will be available to the public for
> all
> > time.
> > --
> > regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > Senior Project Officer
> > NRC-FOSS
> > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:28:02 +0530
> > From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID: <200911190628.02228.lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> > >  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory
> necessities.
> > >  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft,
> but
> > >  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the skeleton
> > is
> > >  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing. Till
> > then
> > >  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
> > >  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate
> > place.
> > >  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state
> can
> > >  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all details
> > you
> > >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> > >
> >
> > oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
> > --
> > regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > Senior Project Officer
> > NRC-FOSS
> > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:02:12 +0530
> > From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>
> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] society registration
> > Message-ID:
> >        <8548c5f30911182032i1d40d021gc79068d29aeaf025 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 6:17:12 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > > > work of drafting has started - so far I am building the essential
> > > >  skeleton,  after which the lawyer can vet it for statutory
> > necessities.
> > > >  Please feel free to edit spelling/formatting elements in the draft,
> > but
> > > >  PLEASE DO NOT ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING UNTIL I SAY SO. Once the
> skeleton
> > > is
> > > >  ready, I will let you know so that you can start adding/editing.
> Till
> > > then
> > > >  keep discussion on this list. Of course, those who are willing to
> > > >  subscribe (from 8 states) may add their details in the appropriate
> > > place.
> > > >  There is no limit to this number, more than one person from a state
> > can
> > > >  subscribe. Please note that this is a public document and all
> details
> > > you
> > > >  enter will be available to the public for all time.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I have the required residence documents for Bangalore, Karnataka.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > oops - forgot the url: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa
> > > --
> > > regards
> > > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > > Senior Project Officer
> > > NRC-FOSS
> > > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Inpycon mailing list
> > > Inpycon at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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> >
> >
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> --
> With Regards,
> Abhishek Tiwari
> +919047444439
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 18:12:18 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:42:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
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Abhishek,

Please send the document proof to Kenneth. Can everyone who can send address
proofs across different states please standup in the next thread

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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 18:15:16 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:45:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Mailing the address proof to Kenneth
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...

Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to
be sent.

I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found
invalid

Thanks
-- 
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+91 9342 583 065
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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 18:21:28 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:51:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911240912k436732cfw1ecd0b251c5a69d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50d982690911240812s32302853ra5136de34dfcfed@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Abhishek,
>
> Please send the document proof to Kenneth. Can everyone who can send address
> proofs across different states please standup in the next thread

Count me in from Delhi.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 25 00:59:36 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:29:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Mailing the address proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
> Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
> 
> Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to
> be sent.
> 
> I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found
> invalid
> 

do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for signature, 
your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which time 
you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of 
station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the day. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From sree at mahiti.org  Wed Nov 25 05:47:27 2009
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:17:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Mailing the address proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <313529610911242047q541fa784h29eebc595a32aaee@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/25 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>

> On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
> > Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
> >
> > Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need
> to
> > be sent.
> >
> > I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found
> > invalid
> >
>
> do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for
> signature,
> your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which
> time
> you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of
> station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the
> day.
>

http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page where
names are being updated?

- sree
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From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 06:41:56 2009
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:11:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] society registration
In-Reply-To: <91bea30d0911240921r3002d4br5f1cce0aae9f7eb7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50d982690911240812s32302853ra5136de34dfcfed@mail.gmail.com>
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Me from Kerala.


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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 25 07:10:43 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:40:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <313529610911242047q541fa784h29eebc595a32aaee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<313529610911242047q541fa784h29eebc595a32aaee@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 10:17:27 am Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page
>  where names are being updated?
> 

nope - that is the place. I have finished the basic portions of the MOA and 
byelaws (the rest is just legal stuff). Please go through it and discuss. Also 
someone who knows wiki formatting please make it look nice. (I thought I knew 
wiki fomatting, but I was wrong). Also add your names and details to the wiki 
and correct spelling mistakes.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 09:23:41 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:53:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Mailing the address proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <313529610911242047q541fa784h29eebc595a32aaee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>wrote:

>
>
> 2009/11/25 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
>
> On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
>> > Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
>> >
>> > Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need
>> to
>> > be sent.
>> >
>> > I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is
>> found
>> > invalid
>> >
>>
>> do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for
>> signature,
>> your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which
>> time
>> you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of
>> station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the
>> day.
>>
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page
> where names are being updated?
>

http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa_Signees, just created.


>
> - sree
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 09:36:00 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:06:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <200911251140.43205.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 10:17:27 am Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page
> >  where names are being updated?
> >
>
> nope - that is the place. I have finished the basic portions of the MOA and
> byelaws (the rest is just legal stuff). Please go through it and discuss.
> Also
> someone who knows wiki formatting please make it look nice. (I thought I
> knew
> wiki fomatting, but I was wrong). Also add your names and details to the
> wiki
> and correct spelling mistakes.
>

  Added my name/address and did spell check. Will proceed to wiki formatting
 now.


> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Project Officer
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 11:10:59 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:40:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30911250036l67a77b39k3b54ca83d6544385@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and
Development of Python Software".

Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society"
or "Python India Foundation"?

Anand

From rmathews at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 11:34:00 2009
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:04:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911250210n40631969rb62b171fe77a686e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> "The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and
> Development of Python Software".
>
> Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society"
> or "Python India Foundation"?
>
Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or
"Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?

-- 
Roshan Mathews
http://teamtalk.im

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 11:40:58 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:10:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <1c4dc2780911250234q2eb6645tb04b8e4d11575802@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > "The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and
> > Development of Python Software".
> >
> > Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society"
> > or "Python India Foundation"?
> >
> Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or
> "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?
>

Kenneth, I presume there's some legal reason for choosing such a long name.
I rather prefer something

something simpler  and
the choices would be

Python Software Foundation India  -- PSF(I)
India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF
Indian Python Society -- IPS

As Roshan pointed, we must also think about the acronyms also....

Do advise and clarify

> Roshan Mathews
> http://teamtalk.im
> _______________________________________________
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From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 12:02:58 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:32:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911250240g1b7edbeev69302e10b5f55e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911250529.36996.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<313529610911242047q541fa784h29eebc595a32aaee@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200911251140.43205.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30911250036l67a77b39k3b54ca83d6544385@mail.gmail.com> 
	<41139fcb0911250210n40631969rb62b171fe77a686e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1c4dc2780911250234q2eb6645tb04b8e4d11575802@mail.gmail.com> 
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> Python Software Foundation India? -- PSF(I)
> India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF

Above two sound as if we are indian chapter of PSF. We should avoid
such confusion.

> Indian Python Society -- IPS

another entry:

Python Society of India - PSI

- Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 25 13:41:30 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:11:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0911250302o1aae8433ybe916191d4e6f078@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00911250240g1b7edbeev69302e10b5f55e23@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0911250302o1aae8433ybe916191d4e6f078@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911251811.30254.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 4:32:58 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > Python Software Foundation India  -- PSF(I)
> > India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF
> 
> Above two sound as if we are indian chapter of PSF. We should avoid
> such confusion.
> 
> > Indian Python Society -- IPS
> 
> another entry:
> 
> Python Society of India - PSI
> 

name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have 'Indian' or 
'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have 'foundation' 
in it. PSI sounds good to me.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 25 13:50:13 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:20:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <200911251811.30254.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0911250302o1aae8433ybe916191d4e6f078@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911251811.30254.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:11:30 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have 'Indian'
>  or  'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have
>  'foundation' in it. PSI sounds good to me.
> 

btw, the name has to be approved by the central government so it would be a 
good idea if the word 'software' is also added - else the concerned ministry 
could refer the thing to the ministry of wildlife/forestry for comments which 
might delay things.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 14:12:46 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:42:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <200911251820.13149.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0911250302o1aae8433ybe916191d4e6f078@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911251811.30254.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200911251820.13149.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00911250512k1353503ief3b6411e4d28b30@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:11:30 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have
> 'Indian'
> >  or  'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have
> >  'foundation' in it. PSI sounds good to me.
> >
>
> btw, the name has to be approved by the central government so it would be a
> good idea if the word 'software' is also added - else the concerned
> ministry
> could refer the thing to the ministry of wildlife/forestry for comments
> which
> might delay things.
>


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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Nov 25 14:35:29 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:05:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00911250512k1353503ief3b6411e4d28b30@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911251820.13149.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<6e38f9f00911250512k1353503ief3b6411e4d28b30@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:42:46 pm Ramdas S wrote:
> Python Software Society of India (PSSI)
> 
or
Indian Python Software Society (IPSS)

I think we should settle on one of the above and move to more important things 
like membership categories and restrictions on committee membership and terms 
of office bearers.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 15:04:29 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:34:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <200911251905.30090.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911251820.13149.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<6e38f9f00911250512k1353503ief3b6411e4d28b30@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911251905.30090.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30911250604w76488da4p3f56a6b62c440bf5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

>
>
> I think we should settle on one of the above and move to more important
> things
> like membership categories and restrictions on committee membership and
> terms
> of office bearers.
>  --
>

+1

Choose any name - personally I am neutral though
long names are stand-offish.

We should read the current draft in full and suggest changes
(if any) in the other sections which Kenneth mentions.


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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 15:18:41 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:48:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>> "The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and
>> Development of Python Software".
>>
>> Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society"
>> or "Python India Foundation"?
>>
> Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or
> "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?

 Based on my experience you should have the word 'software' in the
society name. Else it can lead to confusion with babus at a later
stage. Also, if possible try avoiding a name starting with Python as
it is a wildlife creature and some stupid babu can raise an exception
which will be difficult to catch, leading to a segfault :)

 Rest as Kenneth has pointed, having India or Indian is required to
have an India wide society.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 16:47:25 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:17:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
In-Reply-To: <91bea30d0911250618w37466623p4d0aebe04b597e96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> "The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and
> >> Development of Python Software".
> >>
> >> Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society"
> >> or "Python India Foundation"?
> >>
> > Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or
> > "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?
>
>  Based on my experience you should have the word 'software' in the
> society name. Else it can lead to confusion with babus at a later
> stage. Also, if possible try avoiding a name starting with Python as
> it is a wildlife creature and some stupid babu can raise an exception
> which will be difficult to catch, leading to a segfault :)
>
>


>  Rest as Kenneth has pointed, having India or Indian is required to
> have an India wide society.
>

Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't
satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the
babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)


>
> regards
> Vivek
>
> --
> The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:03:04 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:33:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't
> satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the
> babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)
>

 Though Python India Software Society sounds interesting but I dont
think we plan to register pythonindiasoftwaresociety.org or something
similar. If we go with PISS.org or PISS.org.in the domain will be
blocked at lots of places including *google* searches. So we have to
think some other combination of four words above.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 05:36:25 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:06:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registration status
Message-ID: <9963e56e0911252036h428419d9v2e3f7dee1087d12c@mail.gmail.com>

I've cleaned up the wiki page using some table markup so that it's a
little more readable. People who are adding their names in there,
please use something similar so that it looks clean.

The plan of action is for Kenneth to get the docs and snail mail it
isn't it? Or do we mail him the address proof?


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 26 05:47:18 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:17:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registration status
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On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 10:06:25 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I've cleaned up the wiki page using some table markup so that it's a
> little more readable. People who are adding their names in there,
> please use something similar so that it looks clean.
> 
> The plan of action is for Kenneth to get the docs and snail mail it
> isn't it? Or do we mail him the address proof?
> 

once the doc is ready and approved by the lawyer it will have to be snail 
mailed, signed in front of a notary - address/id proof can be attested at the 
same time and sent to the lawyer (better not to attach to the document as this 
will become messy).
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 26 06:14:10 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:44:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registration status
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References: <9963e56e0911252036h428419d9v2e3f7dee1087d12c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911261044.10486.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 10:06:25 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I've cleaned up the wiki page using some table markup so that it's a
> little more readable. People who are adding their names in there,
> please use something similar so that it looks clean.
> 
aims and objects is a list from a to d - a has got renumbered as '4' and b,c 
and d are in the same para
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 06:45:19 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:15:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registration status
In-Reply-To: <200911261044.10486.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 10:06:25 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> I've cleaned up the wiki page using some table markup so that it's a
>> little more readable. People who are adding their names in there,
>> please use something similar so that it looks clean.
>>
> aims and objects is a list from a to d - a has got renumbered as '4' and b,c
> and d are in the same para[..]

Fixed it.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 26 06:47:33 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:17:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registration status
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On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 11:15:19 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> 
wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 10:06:25 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> >> I've cleaned up the wiki page using some table markup so that it's a
> >> little more readable. People who are adding their names in there,
> >> please use something similar so that it looks clean.
> >
> > aims and objects is a list from a to d - a has got renumbered as '4' and
> > b,c and d are in the same para[..]
> 
> Fixed it.
> 

ok - so let us discuss categories of members, membership fees, voting rights, 
powers of the general body, restrictions on number of committe members from a 
particular company and restrictions on terms of office.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 08:54:48 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:24:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't
> > satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the
> > babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)
> >
>
>  Though Python India Software Society sounds interesting but I dont
> think we plan to register pythonindiasoftwaresociety.org or something
> similar. If we go with PISS.org or PISS.org.in the domain will be
> blocked at lots of places including *google* searches. So we have to
> think some other combination of four words above.
>

  Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.


>
> regards
> Vivek
>
> --
> The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 09:12:24 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:42:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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References: <6e38f9f00911240915k387113cbq992cd85a45283822@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ? Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.

 We cant have foundation in the name as it is a Society.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 09:18:35 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:48:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.
>
>  We cant have foundation in the name as it is a Society.
>

I give up... :(

>
> regards
> Vivek
>
> --
> The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 13:45:33 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:15:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed.

Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some
*legal* issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working
society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent
one with a really awesome name.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Nov 26 16:41:48 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:11:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 6:15:33 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed.
> 
> Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some
> legal issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working
> society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent
> one with a really awesome name.
> 

anyway whatever we decide some babu is going to change it - as long as the 
name has India, python, software and society, we have to live with it. I will 
propose PSSI and see what happens - now please get on to discussion of the 
more important issues.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 16:55:55 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:25:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed.
>
> Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some
> *legal* issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working
> society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent
> one with a really awesome name.

Can we replace Python with Pythonic ? I had a word with few people who
have registered societies earlier, here and they suggested this. Also
check if the society needs to spell its major activity area in teh
name itself. In this case we can add word 'Promotion' to the name.

 Just few suggestions.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From kausikram at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 18:39:10 2009
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:09:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
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Name Freezed. As of now it shall be PSSI.

Kenneth the entire MoA looks fine, wondering if we should add a clause on
handling of bank accounts? as in who will be the signatories and how many
signatures are required to realize a cheque ?

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 27 02:00:53 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:30:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
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On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 11:09:10 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> Kenneth the entire MoA looks fine, wondering if we should add a clause on
> handling of bank accounts? as in who will be the signatories and how many
> signatures are required to realize a cheque ?
> 

that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person - otherwise 
two. I have to do some research on how this is done with netbanking. Anyone 
knows?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Fri Nov 27 04:56:39 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:26:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
	proof to Kenneth
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:

>
> that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person - otherwise
> two. I have to do some research on how this is done with netbanking. Anyone
> knows?

 Different banks offer different solutions. Best to ero down on the
bank we want to operate the bank account and ask the manager directly.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 27 04:56:04 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:26:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] MOA ready for discussion [was] Mailing the address
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On Friday 27 Nov 2009 9:26:39 am Vivek Khurana wrote:
> > that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person -
> > otherwise two. I have to do some research on how this is done with
> > netbanking. Anyone knows?
> 
>  Different banks offer different solutions. Best to ero down on the
> bank we want to operate the bank account and ask the manager directly.
> 

we have axis, icici and hdfc in ooty - I personally like axis.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Nov 27 04:57:56 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:27:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] office bearers
Message-ID: <200911270927.56265.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

hi,

and now a slightly sensitive topic - we need a some office bearers who will 
constitute the first committee until the first AGM is held. So who is willing?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Project Officer
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Fri Nov 27 05:56:14 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:26:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] office bearers
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Let me nominate your name --- Kenneth Gonsalves for the President's role,
can't think of a better person, and you are by far the senior most Python
developer I know anywhere in the world.
And more importantly you still write code, and not people!


Anand B Pillai, who's the founder of BangPypers and also an individual
sponsor of Pycon for a VP role. Not too many people know this and neither
Anand requested publicity, but Anand was among one of two individuals whoc
chipped in cash from personal pocket to fund the event.


We'll require another VP from another city preferably from North

Noufal who is undoubtedly the leader of the first Pycon should take over the
secretary's role, because that's the most active one.Other roles are purely
decoratory.

Someone should stand up and be a tresurer, the coffers are rich and surplus
with funds.

We can fill up rest of the posts when the AGM is called for.....
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Fri Nov 27 06:04:19 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:34:19 +0530
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> we have axis, icici and hdfc in ooty - I personally like axis.
>

Go ahead with Axis. Frankly there's little to choose between the three



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From sree at mahiti.org  Fri Nov 27 06:15:47 2009
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:45:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] office bearers
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Dear All

2009/11/27 Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com>

>
>
> Let me nominate your name --- Kenneth Gonsalves for the President's role,
> can't think of a better person, and you are by far the senior most Python
> developer I know anywhere in the world.
> And more importantly you still write code, and not people!
>

+1

>
>
> Anand B Pillai, who's the founder of BangPypers and also an individual
> sponsor of Pycon for a VP role. Not too many people know this and neither
> Anand requested publicity, but Anand was among one of two individuals whoc
> chipped in cash from personal pocket to fund the event.
>
+1

>
>
> We'll require another VP from another city preferably from North
>
> Noufal who is undoubtedly the leader of the first Pycon should take over
> the secretary's role, because that's the most active one.Other roles are
> purely decoratory.
>
+1


>
> Someone should stand up and be a tresurer, the coffers are rich and surplus
> with funds.
>
> I suggest Ramdas.
I will be honoured to take on any responsibility in the society.
Regards,
- sree


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