From taleinat at gmail.com  Thu Jun  6 12:28:34 2019
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 19:28:34 +0300
Subject: [Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features
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After a great delay, I've created an issue[0] about the search dialogs
being hidden behind the main window, and have a PR[1] up with a proposed
fix.

[0] https://bugs.python.org/issue37177
[1] https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/13869

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Irv Kalb <Irv at furrypants.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't have a strong opinion about the details of the search and replace
> dialogs.  However, I can tell you that a change replacing the dialog box
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I teach Python classes using IDLE.  The search dialog is a real a problem
> for new students and me as the teacher.  My students and I often get into a
> scenario where the search dialog gets hidden behind a editing window.  When
> that happens, then you try to make edits in code and nothing happens.  This
> happens to very often.  I have learned to look for the hidden search dialog
> window, but my students get very flustered.
>
> I think that a search bar would be a great improvement.  If you can model
> it similar to the one in PyCharm, that would be wonderful.
>
> Thanks for looking into this issue.
>
> Irv
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Tal Einat <taleinat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've recently been working on two new features, for which I'd like to
> discuss whether it would be wise to include in IDLE. Each has a working
> implementation in a PR to make it easy to give it a try.
>
> 1. Replace the search and replace dialogs with a search bar
> https://bugs.python.org/issue34976
> https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9855
>
> 2. Ability to run 3rd party code checkers
> https://bugs.python.org/issue21880
> https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9802
>
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
>
> - Tal Einat
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From Irv at furrypants.com  Fri Jun  7 13:09:28 2019
From: Irv at furrypants.com (Irv Kalb)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 10:09:28 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] Bug 37177 - Search dialog bug on Mac
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[I'm not sure of the proper protocol here, I hope sending a message this way is OK.]

Hi,

I am writing about the potential fix to the Search Dialog box problem in IDLE that I reported a while back.  I can see that there is a flurry of activity on this bug.  I saw that there was a code change, but since I have never looked at IDLE source code, I really cannot comment on the fix.

However, I did see comments that it might be difficult to reproduce, so I made a short video to clearly demonstrate the bug.  (This is on IDLE/Python 3.6.1 Mac)  You can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE>

I did not get a chance to test this out on Windows, but the bug is easily reproducible on a Mac.

If the change is to leave the dialog box in front of the editing window, that would be be fine.  But long term, if it is possible to incorporate a search bar like the one in PyCharm, that would be even better.

Thanks for addressing the issue and I hope this video is helpful.

Irv


From taleinat at gmail.com  Sat Jun  8 09:15:14 2019
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:15:14 +0300
Subject: [Idle-dev] Bug 37177 - Search dialog bug on Mac
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Hi Irv,

Thanks for the reproduction video! It certainly helped to clarify the issue
that you were expriencing.

I can reproduce similar behavior with Python vesrions 3.6.8 and 3.7.3 (from
python.org).

My recently merged fix for issue 37177 does indeed fix this issue; with it,
the search dialogs can't be hidden behind their parent editor/shell windows.

- Tal Einat

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 8:12 PM Irv Kalb <Irv at furrypants.com> wrote:

> [I'm not sure of the proper protocol here, I hope sending a message this
> way is OK.]
>
> Hi,
>
> I am writing about the potential fix to the Search Dialog box problem in
> IDLE that I reported a while back.  I can see that there is a flurry of
> activity on this bug.  I saw that there was a code change, but since I have
> never looked at IDLE source code, I really cannot comment on the fix.
>
> However, I did see comments that it might be difficult to reproduce, so I
> made a short video to clearly demonstrate the bug.  (This is on IDLE/Python
> 3.6.1 Mac)  You can see it here:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE>
>
> I did not get a chance to test this out on Windows, but the bug is easily
> reproducible on a Mac.
>
> If the change is to leave the dialog box in front of the editing window,
> that would be be fine.  But long term, if it is possible to incorporate a
> search bar like the one in PyCharm, that would be even better.
>
> Thanks for addressing the issue and I hope this video is helpful.
>
> Irv
>
> _______________________________________________
> IDLE-dev mailing list
> IDLE-dev at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
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From taleinat at gmail.com  Wed Jun 12 18:13:47 2019
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:13:47 +0300
Subject: [Idle-dev] Line numbers in IDLE
Message-ID: <CALWZvp4prNiXP0td5rVWtdSJeunjn9PhhjTNDimkvmmtzPRpJQ@mail.gmail.com>

 I've just done some work on the (long awaited!) addition of line numbers
to IDLE, and have a working PR ready. If some of you could try it out and
give some feedback, that would be very helpful!

See bpo-17535 <https://bugs.python.org/issue17535> for details; the PR is
GH-14030 <https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/14030>.

Note that this is only for Python 3.
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