[Idle-dev] IDLE dev FAQ

[Sean Felipe Wolfe]

How about a page for development of idle? IIRC this has been discussed
before -- I'm all for it. Maybe idle.python.org?





On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, phil jones <interstar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> thanks for the response. Replies interspersed below :
>
> On 11 February 2014 16:52, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
>
>>> Q : Where can I check-out the current state of IDLE development?
>> What does 'current state of Idle development' mean to you.
>
> Well, I'd assume it's like this. Suppose there were two people (the
> infamous Alice and Bob) working with you on the software. Each of them
> is fixing bugs and submitting patches to you.
>
> But you'd ideally want them both to be as much in sync with each other
> as possible. So that Alice isn't doing things that are incompatible
> with the changes that Bob is making. (Particularly if there's
> refactoring going on, like you've been talking about with
> consolidating many small files into fewer larger ones.)
>
> So on the one hand you would want Alice and Bob to be pulling each
> other's changes as frequently as possible. On the other, you might
> want to have some role as a gatekeeper in case Bob starts making
> changes that you think the community wouldn't agree with.
> Finally, the changes that Alice and Bob are making are not yet fully
> tested on all platforms and so not necessarily accepted into the main
> Python release yet.
>
> So I'd assume there's a repo somewhere which is a kind of reference
> point for "current development release", it's something you gatekeep
> enough that Alice and Bob know that what's been accepted to it is part
> of the plan for what will go into the final release, and they can keep
> pulling from it to keep their development environments up-to-date.
>
> If you don't have something like this, then Bob has to wait until
> Alice's patch has gone all the way through acceptance into the release
> (which may take years) before he can see it and work against it.
>
> So that's the question. Where is the equivalent of  *that* repository
> for IDLE? Is it just http://hg.python.org/cpython ?
>
> Or is that main cpython repo for patches that have undergone the full
> testing on all platforms, and are ready for release? If so, how can
> multiple contributors co-ordinate with each other?
>
>> This returns 32000 hits, most closed, and most not about Idle. Use component=6 instead.
>> This also returns a table with a column for every field. That would be most useful as input
>> that makes a custom condensed table or summary. The standard condensed table (but
>> without status = open on every line) would be the same as above without &keywords=2.
>
> OK. Thanks. Yes, trying to figure out what's the right arguments are
> for the search URL.
>
>> Only if the PSF Code of Conduct applies to this list and personal attacks
>> are not tolerated.
>
> I assume you mean that if you aren't prepared to to follow the code of
> conduct you aren't welcome on this list? Not that there's a different
> space somewhere else where people are talking about IDLE?
>
> On this note, I was looking at http://bugs.python.org/issue17390 and I
> saw you wrote this :
>
> Edmond: please fill in, sign, and send by your preferred method a PSF
> Contributor Agreement
> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ (back up a level for
> more explanation)
>
> For a patch more complicated than this, the CA would now be required
> before applying a patch of yours.
>
> What does this mean exactly?
>
> BTW : Here's the work-in-progress on the FAQ, temporarily on github :
> https://github.com/interstar/idle-dev-faq
>
> cheers
>
> Phil
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