From kzielinski at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 06:52:12 2005
From: kzielinski at gmail.com (konrad Zielinski)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:52:12 +1100
Subject: [Idle-dev] MUltiple Instances of IDLE
Message-ID: <7fa65f9c0512072152u16517e82h9d58ac397fabfe28@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have been experimentign with Ways to get multiple instances of IDLE
running at the same time. As a quick hack I copied PyShell.py and
changed the hard coded port Number. However I found
that my Changed code only workds when run from the libidle directory.
Any attempt ro run it from else where yeilds the following Error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named run

if I cd into the libidle directory first i can run PyShell2.py
correctly. Can anyone shead any light on what is happening here ?

Now Onto My main question ....

I'm planning to patch IDLE to allow multiple instances. Is this a feture
that would be considered for addition into the distibution? The comments
at the top of rpc.py seem to suggest that limiting to a single instance
was a deliberate design decision.


My options seem to either try ports systamatically, or at random.
Random will probably work a good percentage of the time. Hoever the
issue then becomes how to recover gracefully in the event (which will
eventually occure) that it tries a port which is already being used.

As far as I understand IDLE is following a model similer to X windows
where the GUI is the server and the interpreter that is executing user
code is the client (yes / no)

My other IDLE Grip (again I will be happy to attempt a patch for this if there
is interest in having it):

Option of running IDLE with editor windows in tabs rather than
seperate windows. Personally I find tabbed interfaces easier to work
with.

From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Thu Dec  8 09:51:51 2005
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Fuzzyman)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:51:51 +0000
Subject: [Idle-dev] MUltiple Instances of IDLE
In-Reply-To: <7fa65f9c0512072152u16517e82h9d58ac397fabfe28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7fa65f9c0512072152u16517e82h9d58ac397fabfe28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4397F427.9040202@voidspace.org.uk>

konrad Zielinski wrote:

>[snip...]
>My other IDLE Grip (again I will be happy to attempt a patch for this if there
>is interest in having it):
>
>Option of running IDLE with editor windows in tabs rather than
>seperate windows. Personally I find tabbed interfaces easier to work
>with.
>  
>
By the way, this is the main reason I switched from IDLE to SPE. :-)
(Although I still use IDLE for some things - mainly because it is faster
loading).

All the best,

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml


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From kzielinski at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 03:53:33 2005
From: kzielinski at gmail.com (konrad Zielinski)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:53:33 +1100
Subject: [Idle-dev] Installing IDLE
Message-ID: <7fa65f9c0512081853u27c36414le54153e863ab193f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to install the new version of IDLE lib and have encountered
the following
problem:

When I attempt to use auto completion I get the following error:

Exception in Tkinter callback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
    return self.func(*args)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 63, in force_ope
n_completions_event
    self.open_completions(True, False, True)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 152, in open_com
pletions
    comp_lists = self.fetch_completions(comp_what, mode)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 181, in fetch_co
mpletions
    (what, mode), {})
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 211, in remotecall
    return self.asyncreturn(seq)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 242, in asyncreturn
    return self.decoderesponse(response)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 259, in decoderesponse
    raise RuntimeError, what
RuntimeError: Unsupported method name: 'get_the_completion_list'

The reason I placed the files under /usr/local is to avoid making
manual changes in the normal /usr hierarchy, as this is the domain of
my package management system.

Regards

Konrad

PS I just realised that my previous post regarding Network Ports
wasn't signed. I was in a rush and neglected that detail.

From noamraph at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 19:45:05 2005
From: noamraph at gmail.com (Noam Raphael)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:45:05 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] Installing IDLE
In-Reply-To: <7fa65f9c0512081853u27c36414le54153e863ab193f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7fa65f9c0512081853u27c36414le54153e863ab193f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b348a0850512101045l5bb076f9le98278e51c2ea7c1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Is it possible that there's still access to the old version of IDLE?

My guess is that the IDLE's subprocess finds the "idlelib.run" module
from the previous installation, which doesn't include the new
"get_the_completion_list" method, and that's why it fails.

Make sure that when you run Python, there's no way to import the old
IDLE's modules.

I hope this helps,
Noam

On 12/9/05, konrad Zielinski <kzielinski at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install the new version of IDLE lib and have encountered
> the following
> problem:
>
> When I attempt to use auto completion I get the following error:
>
> Exception in Tkinter callback
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1345, in __call__
>     return self.func(*args)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 63, in force_ope
> n_completions_event
>     self.open_completions(True, False, True)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 152, in open_com
> pletions
>     comp_lists = self.fetch_completions(comp_what, mode)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/AutoComplete.py", line 181, in fetch_co
> mpletions
>     (what, mode), {})
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 211, in remotecall
>     return self.asyncreturn(seq)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 242, in asyncreturn
>     return self.decoderesponse(response)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/idlelib/rpc.py", line 259, in decoderesponse
>     raise RuntimeError, what
> RuntimeError: Unsupported method name: 'get_the_completion_list'
>
> The reason I placed the files under /usr/local is to avoid making
> manual changes in the normal /usr hierarchy, as this is the domain of
> my package management system.
>
> Regards
>
> Konrad
>
> PS I just realised that my previous post regarding Network Ports
> wasn't signed. I was in a rush and neglected that detail.
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