From peter@grenna.net  Mon Apr 23 10:28:41 2001
From: peter@grenna.net (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:28:41 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] Change keybindings
Message-ID: <NFEJKOAEHNOLBLJPCHIKCELNCAAA.peter@grenna.net>

Dear all,

New to the list but a fan of the IDLE tool. I use (mostly, unfortunatly)
windows.
On a french keyboard to get the squared bracket you need to <Alt Gr-)> to
get a ] unlike the qwerty keyboard where need only to push the ] key.
This makes it impossible for me to use the Indent Region and Dedent Region
shortcut. (Ctrl-[ and Ctrl-])
How can I "remap" this to my needs?
If I for example want to bind Ctrl-- to Dedent and Ctrl-_ to Indent.

In Tools/idle/AutoIndent.py I found this:

    windows_keydefs = {
        '<<indent-region>>': ['<Control-bracketright>'],
        '<<dedent-region>>': ['<Control-bracketleft>'],
        '<<comment-region>>': ['<Alt-Key-3>'],
        '<<uncomment-region>>': ['<Alt-Key-4>'],
        '<<tabify-region>>': ['<Alt-Key-5>'],
        '<<untabify-region>>': ['<Alt-Key-6>'],
    }

<pseudo>
Can I change '<Control-bracketright>' to '<Control-underscore>'??
</pseudo>

Hints? Tips? Help?

Cheers, Peter



From jschmitt@vmlabs.com  Tue Apr 24 02:31:35 2001
From: jschmitt@vmlabs.com (John Schmitt)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:31:35 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] where is pythonwin?  relationship to idle?
Message-ID: <4197FA5DD22AD5118ADE00805F6FA62F4459@eden.vmlabs.com>

Naively, I thought I could cut the [colors] section from
...\Tools\idle\config.txt and paste it into ...\Pythonwin\pywin\IDLE.cfg.
This does not work.

What is the relationship between idle and pythonwin?  Where is pythonwin
being developed?  Sourceforge?  I couldn't find it there.

John


From guido@digicool.com  Tue Apr 24 03:37:23 2001
From: guido@digicool.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:37:23 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] where is pythonwin? relationship to idle?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:31:35 MST."
 <4197FA5DD22AD5118ADE00805F6FA62F4459@eden.vmlabs.com>
References: <4197FA5DD22AD5118ADE00805F6FA62F4459@eden.vmlabs.com>
Message-ID: <200104240237.VAA09540@cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com>

> Naively, I thought I could cut the [colors] section from
> ...\Tools\idle\config.txt and paste it into ...\Pythonwin\pywin\IDLE.cfg.
> This does not work.
> 
> What is the relationship between idle and pythonwin?  Where is pythonwin
> being developed?  Sourceforge?  I couldn't find it there.

Pythinwin is Mark Hammond's.  I don't know where you got it, but it's
part of ActivePython, and you can also get it here:

http://www.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/ActivePython/Extensions/Win32all

AFAIK, Pythonwin doesn't use IDLE (it has its own colorizing editor),
so I'm surprised there's an IDLE.cfg there...

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


From jschmitt@vmlabs.com  Tue Apr 24 02:52:39 2001
From: jschmitt@vmlabs.com (John Schmitt)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:52:39 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] where is pythonwin? relationship to idle?
Message-ID: <4197FA5DD22AD5118ADE00805F6FA62F445A@eden.vmlabs.com>

Thanks.

I installed ActivePython 2.1.  

The link you provided mentions the source code, browseable at this URL:

http://www.pythonpros.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/PyWin32

which does not work right now.

IDLE.cfg is supposed to be a keyboard config, I guess.  

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guido van Rossum [mailto:guido@digicool.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:37 PM
> To: John Schmitt
> Cc: idle-dev@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Idle-dev] where is pythonwin? relationship to idle?
> 
> 
> > Naively, I thought I could cut the [colors] section from
> > ...\Tools\idle\config.txt and paste it into 
> ...\Pythonwin\pywin\IDLE.cfg.
> > This does not work.
> > 
> > What is the relationship between idle and pythonwin?  Where 
> is pythonwin
> > being developed?  Sourceforge?  I couldn't find it there.
> 
> Pythinwin is Mark Hammond's.  I don't know where you got it, but it's
> part of ActivePython, and you can also get it here:
> 
> http://www.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/ActivePython/Extensi
ons/Win32all

AFAIK, Pythonwin doesn't use IDLE (it has its own colorizing editor),
so I'm surprised there's an IDLE.cfg there...

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


From MarkH@ActiveState.com  Thu Apr 26 09:18:40 2001
From: MarkH@ActiveState.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:18:40 +1000
Subject: [Idle-dev] where is pythonwin? relationship to idle?
In-Reply-To: <4197FA5DD22AD5118ADE00805F6FA62F445A@eden.vmlabs.com>
Message-ID: <LCEPIIGDJPKCOIHOBJEPIEMHDKAA.MarkH@ActiveState.com>

>
> IDLE.cfg is supposed to be a keyboard config, I guess.

Yes, it provides keyboard bindings similar to IDLE.  It can be selected in
the main Options dialog.

Mark.