From travis at domain51.com  Mon Mar 12 20:37:54 2012
From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:37:54 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
Message-ID: <9DA58C0E-CB61-4B5D-84A7-85AF74249173@domain51.com>

Howdy all;

At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.

There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a community-starter-kit, but there's nothing more than a README right now.

https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit

-T
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From whykay at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 21:37:08 2012
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:37:08 +0000
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
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Hi Travis,

Vicky, organiser of Python & PyCon Ireland here.

I wonder if this is what people were talking about?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/StartingYourUsersGroup
I haven't really been reading up on how people set up groups, we are kind
of learning as we go along. :-)

There's a common foundation of setting up user groups for everyone, but
it's all dependent on who's setting it up and very culture-dependent. The
easy thing is setting one up, the hard part is keeping it going and keep
people interested in coming along.

My tip to a recent user group in HK was to keep having them on the same day
each month. They don't meet up in pubs if there's no talks, they meet up in
offices, unis, etc. But in Ireland (Dublin, Cork and Galway), our failsafe
has always been a pub.

Great idea though, can't wait to see what I can contribute from our side of
things.

Good luck!

Cheers,

/// Vicky

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Travis Swicegood <travis at domain51.com>wrote:

> Howdy all;
>
> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we
> start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to
> make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I
> reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
>
> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up
> meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a community-starter-kit,
> but there's nothing more than a README right now.
>
> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit
>
> -T
> --
> Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source
> Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051
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From esther at pyladies.com  Mon Mar 12 21:41:28 2012
From: esther at pyladies.com (Esther Nam)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:41:28 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
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Message-ID: <CAMAr3FZ4Trsp27173uRsyMn2=X46aJy-SDgCbCXt5hf8GBcRqw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Thanks for getting that python account on GitHub, Travis! I think this
might be the page you're talking about:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/StartingYourUsersGroup

I could go ahead and copy that text to the starter kit, although it
hasn't been updated in over a year.

Also, I think it would be particularly helpful to add templates to the
kit for things like event flyers, requests for sponsorship/funds,
invitations to speakers, etc. Oh, and I just found the speakers page,
too!  http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSpeakers


Esther
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LA PyLadies
@estherbester


On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Travis Swicegood <travis at domain51.com> wrote:
> Howdy all;
>
> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to make it easy to contribute to. ?Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
>
> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up meetups. ?Where might I find that? ?I've created a community-starter-kit, but there's nothing more than a README right now.
>
> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit
>
> -T
> --
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From andrew.schoen at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 22:03:02 2012
From: andrew.schoen at gmail.com (Andrew Schoen)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:03:02 +0000
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
In-Reply-To: <9DA58C0E-CB61-4B5D-84A7-85AF74249173@domain51.com>
References: <9DA58C0E-CB61-4B5D-84A7-85AF74249173@domain51.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAp9=MjyWdm6Eri8DSVJio1vFThaAftcXs3mDGAuWyJP-6ooA@mail.gmail.com>

What format are we thinking the starter kit should be in?  To me, a sphinx
project hooked up to readthedocs.org seems easy enough. Thoughts?

It's awesome that you were able to score that github account.  We should be
able to do some cool stuff with that while providing great transparency and
a means to collaborate.

Looking forward to helping out.

Andrew Schoen
Python KC

@andrewschoen
@pythonkc

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Travis Swicegood <travis at domain51.com>wrote:

> Howdy all;
>
> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we
> start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to
> make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I
> reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
>
> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up
> meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a community-starter-kit,
> but there's nothing more than a README right now.
>
> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit
>
> -T
> --
> Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source
> Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051
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From ned at nedbatchelder.com  Tue Mar 13 02:52:57 2012
From: ned at nedbatchelder.com (Ned Batchelder)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:52:57 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Example PSF grant proposal for meetup.com fee
	reimbursement
Message-ID: <4F5EA879.4070209@nedbatchelder.com>

Attached is the grant proposal I used last October to get reimbursed for 
meetup.com fees.  Michelle Rowley and I wrote it together, and she used 
the same text, but with details changed for the Portland group.

Feel free to use it, but be sure to change the facts in it, especially 
the details of where to send the check! :)

--Ned.
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From andrew.schoen at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 03:58:21 2012
From: andrew.schoen at gmail.com (Andrew Schoen)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:58:21 +0000
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
In-Reply-To: <6455D819-5A4D-4167-98A4-1D257916D6F9@gmail.com>
References: <9DA58C0E-CB61-4B5D-84A7-85AF74249173@domain51.com>
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Michelle Rowley <mrowley at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Schoen wrote:
>
> > What format are we thinking the starter kit should be in?  To me, a
> sphinx
> > project hooked up to readthedocs.org seems easy enough. Thoughts?
>
> I think that sounds like a great idea, do you want to start it in your
> fork?
>

Sure thing.  I just sent a pull request with sphinx setup.

https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit/pull/1


>
> > It's awesome that you were able to score that github account.  We should
> be
> > able to do some cool stuff with that while providing great transparency
> and
> > a means to collaborate.
> >
> > Looking forward to helping out.
> >
> > Andrew Schoen
> > Python KC
> >
> > @andrewschoen
> > @pythonkc
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Travis Swicegood <travis at domain51.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Howdy all;
> >>
> >> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we
> >> start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub
> to
> >> make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on
> GitHub, I
> >> reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
> >>
> >> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up
> >> meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a
> community-starter-kit,
> >> but there's nothing more than a README right now.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit
> >>
> >> -T
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> >> Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051
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From marsee at oreilly.com  Tue Mar 13 04:58:37 2012
From: marsee at oreilly.com (Marsee Henon)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:58:37 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
In-Reply-To: <CAGAp9=OsPqXp3pebVCDO7Pgd5zRd0Kg5rJ_zdyDUG9FxcVwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B0FEA35A-E0CF-40E3-A5D1-DCA9D2393B8D@oreilly.com>


Hi there

Can you include O'Reilly on your list of resources. We're glad to give books, etc. any time.

ug.oreilly.com or email usergroups at oreilly.com 


And let me know how else we can help.

Marsee Henon
O'Reilly Media
UG Program


From satyaakam at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 11:15:26 2012
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyaakam goswami)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:45:26 +0530
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
In-Reply-To: <CAGAp9=OsPqXp3pebVCDO7Pgd5zRd0Kg5rJ_zdyDUG9FxcVwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9DA58C0E-CB61-4B5D-84A7-85AF74249173@domain51.com>
	<CAGAp9=MjyWdm6Eri8DSVJio1vFThaAftcXs3mDGAuWyJP-6ooA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6455D819-5A4D-4167-98A4-1D257916D6F9@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALre89=eEeNauqURrAO2mNuXDvMXqRVKVu2W90ovwdrcu6tNLg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > > What format are we thinking the starter kit should be in?  To me, a
> > sphinx
> > > project hooked up to readthedocs.org seems easy enough. Thoughts?
> >
> > I think that sounds like a great idea, do you want to start it in your
> > fork?
> >
>
> Sure thing.  I just sent a pull request with sphinx setup.
>
> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit/pull/1


i have sent a pull request in Asciidoc format, will check out sphinx too.

-Satya
fossevents.in
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From travis at domain51.com  Tue Mar 13 15:08:46 2012
From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:08:46 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
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On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:15 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

>>>> What format are we thinking the starter kit should be in?  To me, a
>>> sphinx
>>>> project hooked up to readthedocs.org seems easy enough. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> I think that sounds like a great idea, do you want to start it in your
>>> fork?
>>> 
>> 
>> Sure thing.  I just sent a pull request with sphinx setup.
>> 
>> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit/pull/1
> 
> 
> i have sent a pull request in Asciidoc format, will check out sphinx too.

Hey Satya,

I think Sphinx is going to be our best bet since it's the de facto standard for docs in the Python community.  It also buys is really easy and free hosting on ReadTheDocs.org that's integrated with GitHub.

Want to take a stab at moving the Community Starter Kit.txt from your PR over to a .rst file so it can work with Sphinx?

-T

From travis at domain51.com  Tue Mar 13 15:16:16 2012
From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:16:16 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] community-starter-kit repo
Message-ID: <8DC90499-3DDC-48BF-9A29-6B2C0F1DEAD8@domain51.com>

Hey all;

If you want access to help curate the repo, let me know your GitHub user name and I'll get you added.  I'm giving everyone who wants it the push/pull/admin bit on the repository, so you'll be able to help with everything.  I'm going to try to do any editing I do in a feature branch on my fork then submit a pull request just so I can have another set of eyes read through it before it gets merged.  I've found that works best on repositories with a lot of contributors.

Once you're a member of the team, you'll get notifications for any PRs, so feel free to review and merge them if they work.  Also, it's version control, so we can always undo stuff. :-D

-T

From andrew.schoen at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 17:09:02 2012
From: andrew.schoen at gmail.com (Andrew Schoen)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:09:02 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Example PSF grant proposal for meetup.com
	fee reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <4F5EA879.4070209@nedbatchelder.com>
References: <4F5EA879.4070209@nedbatchelder.com>
Message-ID: <CAGAp9=NV-5p+N74sJ7Absis3iVYb_Y0bcYOv9Yo8n67VLR9HEA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ned and Michelle, this will be very helpful!  I'll plan on
submitting one of these for our next billing cycle, we have a company
sponsor that already paid for this 6 month chunk.

Should we turn this into more of a template and store it
somewhere publicly?  Maybe in the new github account as part of the starter
kit?

Andrew Schoen

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com>wrote:

> Attached is the grant proposal I used last October to get reimbursed for
> meetup.com fees.  Michelle Rowley and I wrote it together, and she used
> the same text, but with details changed for the Portland group.
>
> Feel free to use it, but be sure to change the facts in it, especially the
> details of where to send the check! :)
>
> --Ned.
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From travis at domain51.com  Wed Mar 21 15:52:53 2012
From: travis at domain51.com (Travis Swicegood)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:52:53 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Setting up a PSF account
Message-ID: <F0384C5217484F86B6CBCD5BF830BEC8@domain51.com>

Howdy all, 

At the organizers bof at pycon, there was mention of a PSF managed bank account.  What is the process for getting one of those set up?

-T
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From ned at nedbatchelder.com  Wed Mar 21 16:13:46 2012
From: ned at nedbatchelder.com (Ned Batchelder)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:13:46 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Setting up a PSF account
In-Reply-To: <F0384C5217484F86B6CBCD5BF830BEC8@domain51.com>
References: <F0384C5217484F86B6CBCD5BF830BEC8@domain51.com>
Message-ID: <4F69F02A.10506@nedbatchelder.com>

On 3/21/2012 10:52 AM, Travis Swicegood wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> At the organizers bof at pycon, there was mention of a PSF managed bank account.  What is the process for getting one of those set up?
Kurt Kaiser is the treasurer for the PSF, who is not on this list.  
Kurt, what process should group leaders follow?  I'll relay to the list.

--Ned.
> -T

From clayton at sixfeetup.com  Mon Mar 12 20:41:43 2012
From: clayton at sixfeetup.com (Clayton Parker)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:41:43 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
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On Mar 12, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Travis Swicegood wrote:

> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
> 
> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a community-starter-kit, but there's nothing more than a README right now.

I was looking around the wiki after the open space and found this:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/StartingYourUsersGroup

It has a lot of excellent pointers.

Clayton
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From mrowley at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 23:50:42 2012
From: mrowley at gmail.com (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:50:42 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Community organizer's starter kit
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On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Schoen wrote:

> What format are we thinking the starter kit should be in?  To me, a sphinx
> project hooked up to readthedocs.org seems easy enough. Thoughts?

I think that sounds like a great idea, do you want to start it in your fork?

> It's awesome that you were able to score that github account.  We should be
> able to do some cool stuff with that while providing great transparency and
> a means to collaborate.
> 
> Looking forward to helping out.
> 
> Andrew Schoen
> Python KC
> 
> @andrewschoen
> @pythonkc
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Travis Swicegood <travis at domain51.com>wrote:
> 
>> Howdy all;
>> 
>> At the organizer's open space Saturday night someone recommended that we
>> start putting together (and consolidating) our documentation on GitHub to
>> make it easy to contribute to.  Since we don't have a presence on GitHub, I
>> reached out to a friend there and got us the @python user.
>> 
>> There's apparently some documentation on python.org about setting up
>> meetups.  Where might I find that?  I've created a community-starter-kit,
>> but there's nothing more than a README right now.
>> 
>> https://github.com/python/community-starter-kit
>> 
>> -T
>> --
>> Travis Swicegood | @tswicegood (most everywhere) | Senior Open Source
>> Engineer @ Texas Tribune / Armstrong | 512.693.7051
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From clayton at sixfeetup.com  Tue Mar 13 15:42:05 2012
From: clayton at sixfeetup.com (Clayton Parker)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:42:05 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] community-starter-kit repo
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On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Travis Swicegood wrote:

> Hey all;
> 
> If you want access to help curate the repo, let me know your GitHub user name and I'll get you added.  I'm giving everyone who wants it the push/pull/admin bit on the repository, so you'll be able to help with everything.  I'm going to try to do any editing I do in a feature branch on my fork then submit a pull request just so I can have another set of eyes read through it before it gets merged.  I've found that works best on repositories with a lot of contributors.
> 
> Once you're a member of the team, you'll get notifications for any PRs, so feel free to review and merge them if they work.  Also, it's version control, so we can always undo stuff. :-D

I'd like to get added. My username is claytron.

Thanks for getting this effort rolling!

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From mrowley at gmail.com  Fri Mar 16 03:27:07 2012
From: mrowley at gmail.com (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:27:07 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Notes from the PyCon 2012 Community Organizers'
	BoF
Message-ID: <92385941-A15C-418A-831A-B7DC5DCCBC03@gmail.com>

Thanks to everyone who was able to attend the Community Organizers' BoF at PyCon, this year! I compiled some notes on the resources that were mentioned in the meeting, as well as some ideas that were shared (broken out by general topic). Please chime in with the bits that I've missed. Let's keep the conversation going on this list so we can continue to improve our groups and share what we're learning.


Resources:

Bay Area Debian group's Shotgun Rules (hilarious/relevant/awesome): http://bad.debian.net/shotgun_rules.txt
Jessica's and Asheesh's talk from 2012 PyCon about Diversity in the Boston Python group: http://pyvideo.org/video/719/diversity-in-practice-how-the-boston-python-user
Yannick's talk from 2011 PyCon about bootstrapping Montreal-Python: http://blip.tv/pycon-us-videos-2009-2010-2011/pycon-2011-montreal-python-lessons-learned-from-bootstraping-a-python-community-4901495
Newbie Python curriculum on OpenHatch: http://bit.ly/python-getting-started
Example of how Austin Python uses Github: https://github.com/awpug
New Python Github account: https://github.com/python - currently work being done on a group organizer starter kit.


Discussion notes:

On group dynamic
- Newcomers make a group healthy, make sure you have new people coming.
- Invite people personally - on Twitter, IRC, at other meetups, etc.
- Persevere! It might take a bit of time to build up a healthy group size.
- A consistent meetup night (i.e. every second Tuesday) will help people remember when the meeting is.

On sponsorships
- PSF could pitch in some cash to help local user groups with things such as Meetup.com fees, and bringing in high profile speakers to the group.
- Kurt Kaiser (PSF Treasurer) is working on a system for UGs to be able to take sponsorship donations through the PSF. Boston has this set up already (see: http://donate.bostonpython.com).

On content
- Make sure there is a variation in the levels of content you present, i.e. beginner, intermediate and advanced talks.
- Breakout into smaller groups. The New York Python Meetup group has tried doing smaller groups in separate rooms, and then some of those breakout group talks turn into larger group talks if there's interest for others to see them.
- Run a project/hack night. Unstructured, and you can have a newbie corner.
- Encourage newer members to do lightning talks - that can help them become more comfortable with giving longer talks.
- Bring in a remote speaker using telepresence, but beware of technical problems.

On feedback
- It's important! Each community will have its own needs and dynamic. Feedback will help structure the group appropriately for the local community.
- It appears to be much easier to get feedback *right after* the meeting.

On management
- Get help! Doing it alone is a lot harder and less fun. Having the backup and support from one another on a leadership team is critical.
- Try splitting up the responsibilities by having a rotating organizer in charge of each meeting (Austin does this - check out their github profile).
- A project that documents the process of starting up a Python user group would be interesting. If you're starting up a new one, consider doing this for future generations of Python organizers.


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From clayton at sixfeetup.com  Fri Mar 16 17:35:17 2012
From: clayton at sixfeetup.com (Clayton Parker)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:35:17 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Example PSF grant proposal for meetup.com
	fee reimbursement
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On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Andrew Schoen wrote:

> Thanks Ned and Michelle, this will be very helpful!  I'll plan on
> submitting one of these for our next billing cycle, we have a company
> sponsor that already paid for this 6 month chunk.

We will be doing the same for IndyPy.

> Should we turn this into more of a template and store it
> somewhere publicly?  Maybe in the new github account as part of the starter
> kit?

+1 to adding it to the starter kit.

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> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com>wrote:
> 
>> Attached is the grant proposal I used last October to get reimbursed for
>> meetup.com fees.  Michelle Rowley and I wrote it together, and she used
>> the same text, but with details changed for the Portland group.
>> 
>> Feel free to use it, but be sure to change the facts in it, especially the
>> details of where to send the check! :)
>> 
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From kbk at shore.net  Wed Mar 21 19:12:34 2012
From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:12:34 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Setting up a PSF account
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 10:52 AM, Travis Swicegood wrote:
> > Howdy all,
> >
> > At the organizers bof at pycon, there was mention of a PSF managed bank account.  What is the process for getting one of those set up?
> Kurt Kaiser is the treasurer for the PSF, who is not on this list.  
> Kurt, what process should group leaders follow?  I'll relay to the list.

This was an idea I developed at PyCon as a possible way of handling
these small organizations.  I'm currently driving back to the East
Coast, so I won't be able to address it until I get there.  It will
require research and PSF Board approval, of course.

-- 
KBK

From brian at python.org  Wed Mar 21 19:46:00 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:46:00 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Python User Group International Survey
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:41, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
> The PSF is happy to launch today an international survey of Pythonuser
> group organizers to help it better serve the large and ever-expanding
> international Python user community.

I just got the admin keys and this post was held for moderation since
June. Since this was already completed I'm not sure doing the survey
is worth much so you may want to contact the survey people directly if
you have feedback -- survey people correct me if I'm wrong.

From giddyupgilbert at comcast.net  Wed Mar 21 21:38:57 2012
From: giddyupgilbert at comcast.net (BuddyB)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:38:57 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Mailing List
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Please take me off the mailing list; am getting a lot of stuff. Having 
family health issues at the moment and can't participate.
Thanks
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From ned at nedbatchelder.com  Thu Mar 22 02:36:23 2012
From: ned at nedbatchelder.com (Ned Batchelder)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:36:23 -0400
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On 3/21/2012 11:13 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 10:52 AM, Travis Swicegood wrote:
>> Howdy all,
>>
>> At the organizers bof at pycon, there was mention of a PSF managed 
>> bank account.  What is the process for getting one of those set up?
> Kurt Kaiser is the treasurer for the PSF, who is not on this list.  
> Kurt, what process should group leaders follow?  I'll relay to the list.
>
> --Ned.
Kurt said,

This was an idea I developed at PyCon as a possible way of handling
these small organizations.  I'm currently driving back to the East
Coast, so I won't be able to address it until I get there.  It will
require research and PSF Board approval, of course.