From flaskee at protonmail.com  Wed Mar  4 18:39:14 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 23:39:14 +0000
Subject: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other Flask resources.

Stick a fork into this one.

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> What other Flask resources
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>
> Thanks
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From coreybrett at gmail.com  Wed Mar  4 21:00:56 2020
From: coreybrett at gmail.com (Corey Boyle)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 21:00:56 -0500
Subject: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491991739/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qYfyEbK6RVSN6

This book is a great start.


Also,
https://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/flask

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:39 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:

>
> A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other Flask
> resources.
>
> Stick a fork into this one.
>
>
>
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> wrote:
>
> What other Flask resources
> (mailing lists, forums, podcasts, etc)
> are you folks using?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Flask at python.org
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From sidwoodstock at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 15:50:21 2020
From: sidwoodstock at gmail.com (Scott Woodstock)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 12:50:21 -0800
Subject: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.42.1583427603.11822.flask@python.org>
References: <mailman.42.1583427603.11822.flask@python.org>
Message-ID: <CALovGGMAQtEDz3v3fi6r9WEuypPbnc=uBNR8Kv-wPs6vdbq_hg@mail.gmail.com>

This mailing list is where I turn when I am unable to find what I'm looking
for from google. Stackoverflow and library/package docs answer 90% of my
questions.

I started learning Flask with Miguel Grinberg's fabulous blog. He also has
a book or two out now, I believe.

https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world


There was one time I did stumble into a Flask-based ICQ i believe, and was
able to dialogue about a question I had and found the people in there quite
helpful. I'm not sure if this is still around, and I cannot remember where
I even got the channel number.

Wish I could have been more help!

-Scott

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:01 AM <flask-request at python.org> wrote:

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> To: flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
> Cc: "flask at python.org" <flask at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists,
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> Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491991739/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qYfyEbK6RVSN6
>
> This book is a great start.
>
>
> Also,
> https://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/flask
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:39 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other Flask
> > resources.
> >
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> > On Friday, February 28, 2020 7:16 PM, flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > What other Flask resources
> > (mailing lists, forums, podcasts, etc)
> > are you folks using?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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> > Flask mailing list
> > Flask at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/flask
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From ford.anthonyj at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 17:14:17 2020
From: ford.anthonyj at gmail.com (Ford)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 16:14:17 -0600
Subject: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
In-Reply-To: <CALovGGMAQtEDz3v3fi6r9WEuypPbnc=uBNR8Kv-wPs6vdbq_hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.42.1583427603.11822.flask@python.org>
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Just to join in to prove the list isn't dead, just occupied, I'll say that
I turn to this list as a last resort when Google/StackOverflow can't solve
my problem.

Most of the major concerns you might run into can be searched on Google,
which generally leads you to StackOverflow.

Best practices can often be found on the website or on various github
repos.

The Grinberg book recommended previously in this thread is also a very
valuable resource. I highly recommend following it to get your feet wet in
Flask.

I've been using Flask since around 2010, so I wouldn't tap out and call it
done. But realize that this mailing list may not always have the time to
drop everything for a general question that can easily be answered by a
search.

-- Ford

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:50 PM Scott Woodstock <sidwoodstock at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This mailing list is where I turn when I am unable to find what I'm
> looking for from google. Stackoverflow and library/package docs answer 90%
> of my questions.
>
> I started learning Flask with Miguel Grinberg's fabulous blog. He also has
> a book or two out now, I believe.
>
>
> https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world
>
>
> There was one time I did stumble into a Flask-based ICQ i believe, and was
> able to dialogue about a question I had and found the people in there quite
> helpful. I'm not sure if this is still around, and I cannot remember where
> I even got the channel number.
>
> Wish I could have been more help!
>
> -Scott
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:01 AM <flask-request at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Send Flask mailing list submissions to
>>         flask at python.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>         https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/flask
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>         flask-request at python.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>         flask-owner at python.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Flask digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
>>       podcasts, etc) are you folks using? (flaskee)
>>    2. Re: What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
>>       podcasts, etc) are you folks using? (Corey Boyle)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 23:39:14 +0000
>> From: flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
>> To: "flask at python.org" <flask at python.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists,
>>         forums, podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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>>
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>>
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>> resources.
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>>
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>> On Friday, February 28, 2020 7:16 PM, flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
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>> To: flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
>> Cc: "flask at python.org" <flask at python.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists,
>>         forums, podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491991739/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qYfyEbK6RVSN6
>>
>> This book is a great start.
>>
>>
>> Also,
>> https://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/flask
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:39 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other Flask
>> > resources.
>> >
>> > Stick a fork into this one.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
>> >
>> > ??????? Original Message ???????
>> > On Friday, February 28, 2020 7:16 PM, flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > What other Flask resources
>> > (mailing lists, forums, podcasts, etc)
>> > are you folks using?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > Flask at python.org
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From lenikmutungi at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 02:19:32 2020
From: lenikmutungi at gmail.com (Leni Kadali Mutungi)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 10:19:32 +0300
Subject: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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References: <mailman.42.1583427603.11822.flask@python.org>
 <CALovGGMAQtEDz3v3fi6r9WEuypPbnc=uBNR8Kv-wPs6vdbq_hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9251016a-30fb-2372-6781-b90a4c078aa0@gmail.com>

There's a Discord channel that links to IRC here: 
https://discordapp.com/invite/3TDRQsx for the Pallets Project (of which 
Flask is a member). Hope that helps.

On 2020-03-05 23:50, Scott Woodstock wrote:
> This mailing list is where I turn when I am unable to find what I'm 
> looking for from google. Stackoverflow and library/package docs answer 
> 90% of my questions.
>
> I started learning Flask with Miguel Grinberg's fabulous blog. He also 
> has a book or two out now, I believe.
>
> https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world 
>
>
> There was one time I did stumble into a Flask-based ICQ i believe, and 
> was able to dialogue about a question I had and found the people in 
> there quite helpful. I'm not sure if this is still around, and I 
> cannot remember where I even got the channel number.
>
> Wish I could have been more help!
>
> -Scott
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:01 AM <flask-request at python.org 
> <mailto:flask-request at python.org>> wrote:
>
>     Send Flask mailing list submissions to
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>
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>
>     When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>     than "Re: Contents of Flask digest..."
>
>
>     Today's Topics:
>
>     ? ?1. Re: What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
>     ? ? ? podcasts, etc) are you folks using? (flaskee)
>     ? ?2. Re: What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
>     ? ? ? podcasts, etc) are you folks using? (Corey Boyle)
>
>
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>     Message: 1
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>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>     A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other
>     Flask resources.
>
>     Stick a fork into this one.
>
>     Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
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>     ??????? Original Message ???????
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>     > are you folks using?
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>     To: flaskee <flaskee at protonmail.com <mailto:flaskee at protonmail.com>>
>     Cc: "flask at python.org <mailto:flask at python.org>" <flask at python.org
>     <mailto:flask at python.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [Flask] What other Flask resources (mailing lists,
>     ? ? ? ? forums, podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
>     Message-ID:
>     ? ? ? ?
>     <CAD=ssw0XMWqK8pYBLUoRryD0ge0pmABgjgu6XwrYzbjoegmVJw at mail.gmail.com
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>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>     Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python
>     https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491991739/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qYfyEbK6RVSN6
>
>     This book is a great start.
>
>
>     Also,
>     https://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/flask
>
>     On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:39 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org
>     <mailto:flask at python.org>> wrote:
>
>     >
>     > A week later.. I guess you guys are all off using those other Flask
>     > resources.
>     >
>     > Stick a fork into this one.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
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>     <flaskee at protonmail.com <mailto:flaskee at protonmail.com>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > What other Flask resources
>     > (mailing lists, forums, podcasts, etc)
>     > are you folks using?
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Fri Mar  6 15:25:56 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 20:25:56 +0000
Subject: [Flask] Thanks Corey - What other Flask resources (mailing
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> Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491991739/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qYfyEbK6RVSN6
>
> This book is a great start.
>
> Also,
> https://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/flask
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:39 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:
>
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From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 20:26:56 +0000
Subject: [Flask] Thanks Scott! What other Flask resources (mailing lists, forums,
 podcasts, etc) are you folks using?
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> This mailing list is where I turn when I am unable to find what I'm looking for from google. Stackoverflow and library/package docs answer 90% of my questions.
>
> I started learning Flask with Miguel Grinberg's fabulous blog. He also has a book or two out now, I believe.
>
> https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world
>
> There was one time I did stumble into a Flask-based ICQ i believe, and was able to dialogue about a question I had and found the people in there quite helpful. I'm not sure if this is still around, and I cannot remember where I even got the channel number.
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> Wish I could have been more help!
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>> Flask Web Development: Developing Web Applications with Python
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>> This book is a great start.
>>
>> Also,
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Fri Mar  6 15:46:40 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 20:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Flask] Thanks Ford, AND my general question
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Thanks Ford
I certainly don't expect anyone to drop everything for a general question.

I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.

(I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books, etc.)

Here it is again.
=================

I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
Debian 10.3.
I'm using Python 3.5.

The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
I can not figure out why.
It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
No intervention!

Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.

When it is "down" with the 500 error,
and you access the site,
it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.

nmap -sP mysite.org reports the "Host is up"
when it is in it's 500 error state.

It is odd.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to customers.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log, or anywhere really.

Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while the flask site is 500'd.

I am stuck
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Fri Mar  6 15:52:24 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 20:52:24 +0000
Subject: [Flask] my flask question is ...
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Sorry, I should of broken this into its own email to be clear.
Here it is.

I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.

(I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books, etc.)

Here it is again.
=================

I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
Debian 10.3.
I'm using Python 3.5.

The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
I can not figure out why.
It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
No intervention!

Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.

When it is "down" with the 500 error,
and you access the site,
it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.

nmap -sP mysite.org reports the "Host is up"
when it is in it's 500 error state.

It is odd.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to customers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log, or anywhere really.

Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while the flask site is 500'd.

I am stuck
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From coreybrett at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 19:10:28 2020
From: coreybrett at gmail.com (Corey Boyle)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 19:10:28 -0500
Subject: [Flask] Fwd:  my flask question is ...
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It?s impossible to diagnose this with the limited information you have
supplied.

What app server are you using ?

Post your config files.

I?ve been running a fairly complex Flask web app for several months using
Nginx and UWSGI without a lick of trouble. Previously I?ve used Apache and
mod-wsgi, and that was a breeze as well.

I would start by creating a server-setup.txt file in your code repo with
detailed instructions for setting up your server from scratch. You can copy
the contents of your various config files into that file as reference. Then
you will have something to share with us.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:52 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:

> Sorry, I should of broken this into its own email to be clear.
> Here it is.
>
>
> I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.
>
> (I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books, etc.)
>
> Here it is again.
> =================
>
> I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
> Debian 10.3.
> I'm using Python 3.5.
>
> The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
> I can not figure out why.
> It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
> No intervention!
>
> Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.
>
> When it is "down" with the 500 error,
> and you access the site,
> it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.
>
> nmap -sP mysite.org reports the "Host is up"
> when it is in it's 500 error state.
>
> It is odd.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to
> customers.*
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log, or
> anywhere really.
>
> Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while the flask
> site is 500'd.
>
> I am stuck
>
> _______________________________________________
> Flask mailing list
> Flask at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/flask
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From ub at artfacts.net  Sat Mar  7 09:48:36 2020
From: ub at artfacts.net (ulrich berthold)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 15:48:36 +0100
Subject: [Flask] Fwd: my flask question is ...
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On 07.03.20 01:10, Corey Boyle wrote:
>
> It?s impossible to diagnose this with the limited information you have 
> supplied.
>
> What app server are?you using ?

i was thinking, the omission of this critical piece of information looks 
like a red flag, pointing precisely to where the problem is. :)

it's a wild guess, but the random and volatile nature of the issue might 
point to a clash with some sort of system/IO limits. memory, 
file-descriptors, threads, disk-space, ...

dmesg would probably point this out one way or another.

>
> Post your config files.
>
> I?ve been running a fairly complex Flask web app for several months 
> using Nginx and UWSGI without a lick of trouble. Previously I?ve used 
> Apache and mod-wsgi, and that was a breeze as well.
if something is wrong with uwsgi, it can be hard to debug, but when it 
runs, it runs.
>
> I would start by creating a server-setup.txt file in your code repo 
> with detailed instructions for setting up your server from scratch. 
> You can copy the contents of your various config files into that file 
> as reference. Then you will have something to share with us.

even better, make an ansible playbook. than you can even execute the set 
list.

https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/user_guide/playbooks.html


good luck

>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:52 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org 
> <mailto:flask at python.org>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry, I should of broken this into its own email to be clear.
>     Here it is.
>
>
>     I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.
>
>     (I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books,
>     etc.)
>
>     Here it is again.
>     =================
>
>     I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
>     Debian 10.3.
>     I'm using Python 3.5.
>
>     The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
>     I can not figure out why.
>     It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
>     No intervention!
>
>     Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.
>
>     When it is "down" with the 500 error,
>     and you access the site,
>     it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.
>
>     nmap -sP mysite.org <http://mysite.org> reports the "Host is up"
>     when it is in it's 500 error state.
>
>     It is odd.
>
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>     *All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to
>     customers.*
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>     I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log,
>     or anywhere really.
>
>     Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while
>     the flask site is 500'd.
>
>     I am stuck
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Flask mailing list
>     Flask at python.org <mailto:Flask at python.org>
>     https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/flask
>
>
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> Flask mailing list
> Flask at python.org
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Sat Mar  7 13:57:12 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 18:57:12 +0000
Subject: [Flask] App Server ... Re:  Fwd: my flask question is ...
Message-ID: <YnQrvvHMGFWI07i0WQ35Imo82iGGVrGdjGlMCd7K78tOKWWMVNqZm8Af6XLWMf-hugzpm4f8AqVxr8-LYiZLrmqaTKOTnxPEKbrFjanRlHI=@protonmail.com>

>> What app server are you using ?
>
> i was thinking, the omission of this critical piece of information looks like a red flag, pointing precisely to where the problem is. :)

I certainly think I could be at fault :-)

By App Server, you mean like mod_wsgi, correct?

That is what I used, and I followed this:
https://flask.palletsprojects.com/en/1.1.x/deploying/mod_wsgi/

I did run through and touch every piece of the code in the live app, Without causing the 500 error,
so it is not that something is being intermittently hit causing the 500.

My question really is:
Where all should I look for errors?

I'm not seeing the 500 in any of these:
/var/log/syslog
/var/log/messages
/var/log/daemon.log
/var/www/myApp/logs/error.log
/var/www/MyApp/logs/access.log
/var/log/apache2/error.log
/var/log/apache2/access.log
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Sat Mar  7 14:04:19 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 19:04:19 +0000
Subject: [Flask] System Limits
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> it's a wild guess, but the random and volatile nature of the issue might point to a clash with some sort of system/IO limits. memory, file-descriptors, threads, disk-space, ...

I generally agree, thinking it was an Apache limit somehow.

I'm running at a consistent 1GB used out of 4GB RAM
and 17% disk space used, out of 50GB
in a KVM VPS.
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From ford.anthonyj at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 14:57:30 2020
From: ford.anthonyj at gmail.com (Ford)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:57:30 -0500
Subject: [Flask] Thanks Ford, AND my general question
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Without code or logs, we can't do much. Many of us on here are using Flask
for production code, so the problem likely lies with the implementation,
not the framework.

How is your apache configured? Are you letting mod_wsgi directly handle
your application or are you proxying to something like uwsgi or gunicorn?
What configs are you using for your Flask app?

It could be anything from IO contention to runtime errors (zero division?
parsing errors?) to mod_wsgi failing out due to configuration problems (too
few threads to handle request load,

If possible, try testing the application running under something like uwsgi
directly. That will eliminate Apache from the problem. If it still throws
500's, then you know the problem is within the app and not coming from the
Apache/app interface.

If the issue stems from Apache, then it's likely a configuration issue. If
you're using mod_wsgi, this page on debugging might help (
https://modwsgi.readthedocs.io/en/develop/user-guides/debugging-techniques.html).
Logs are essential to figuring out where the issue arises from.

If the issue is isolated to your app, I suggest you start with enhancing
your logging at every level. Add debug level logging on any code path along
the problematic route (i.e. anything that touches the page or pages that
are throwing the 500). If this app isn't public facing, try enabling the
built-in debugger via the debug flag (
https://flask.palletsprojects.com/en/1.1.x/quickstart/#debug-mode).

Try to identify patterns of usage. It could be that your traffic load is
too much for a particular view, especially if it's doing something heavy.
Or perhaps you're being bitten by a noisy-neighbor problem if you're
hosting multiple sites/applications on the same host. If a thread is being
killed for using too much memory, you could be seeing a periodic
crash/reboot throwing 500's.

Hope this helps!


Anthony Ford

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:47 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:

> Thanks Ford
> I certainly don't expect anyone to drop everything for a general question.
>
> I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.
>
> (I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books, etc.)
>
> Here it is again.
> =================
>
> I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
> Debian 10.3.
> I'm using Python 3.5.
>
> The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
> I can not figure out why.
> It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
> No intervention!
>
> Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.
>
> When it is "down" with the 500 error,
> and you access the site,
> it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.
>
> nmap -sP mysite.org reports the "Host is up"
> when it is in it's 500 error state.
>
> It is odd.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to
> customers.*
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log, or
> anywhere really.
>
> Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while the flask
> site is 500'd.
>
> I am stuck
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Flask mailing list
> Flask at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/flask
>
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From flaskee at protonmail.com  Mon Mar  9 17:02:12 2020
From: flaskee at protonmail.com (flaskee)
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 21:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Flask] Thanks Ford, AND my general question
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This is a start Ford.

Thank you.
I will work on catching up.

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On Monday, March 9, 2020 2:57 PM, Ford <ford.anthonyj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Without code or logs, we can't do much. Many of us on here are using Flask for production code, so the problem likely lies with the implementation, not the framework.
>
> How is your apache configured? Are you letting mod_wsgi directly handle your application or are you proxying to something like uwsgi or gunicorn?
> What configs are you using for your Flask app?
>
> It could be anything from IO contention to runtime errors (zero division? parsing errors?) to mod_wsgi failing out due to configuration problems (too few threads to handle request load,
>
> If possible, try testing the application running under something like uwsgi directly. That will eliminate Apache from the problem. If it still throws 500's, then you know the problem is within the app and not coming from the Apache/app interface.
>
> If the issue stems from Apache, then it's likely a configuration issue. If you're using mod_wsgi, this page on debugging might help (https://modwsgi.readthedocs.io/en/develop/user-guides/debugging-techniques.html). Logs are essential to figuring out where the issue arises from.
>
> If the issue is isolated to your app, I suggest you start with enhancing your logging at every level. Add debug level logging on any code path along the problematic route (i.e. anything that touches the page or pages that are throwing the 500). If this app isn't public facing, try enabling the built-in debugger via the debug flag (https://flask.palletsprojects.com/en/1.1.x/quickstart/#debug-mode).
>
> Try to identify patterns of usage. It could be that your traffic load is too much for a particular view, especially if it's doing something heavy. Or perhaps you're being bitten by a noisy-neighbor problem if you're hosting multiple sites/applications on the same host. If a thread is being killed for using too much memory, you could be seeing a periodic crash/reboot throwing 500's.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Anthony Ford
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:47 PM flaskee via Flask <flask at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ford
>> I certainly don't expect anyone to drop everything for a general question.
>>
>> I asked my question here about 2 months back, and I'm still stuck.
>>
>> (I have been all through the stackoverflows, Miguels' blog, books, etc.)
>>
>> Here it is again.
>> =================
>>
>> I have a full flask site running under the latest Apache.
>> Debian 10.3.
>> I'm using Python 3.5.
>>
>> The site goes down with 500 errors randomly.
>> I can not figure out why.
>> It will sometimes go down (AND COME BACK UP BY ITSELF!).
>> No intervention!
>>
>> Often though I have to reload the site to get it back.
>>
>> When it is "down" with the 500 error,
>> and you access the site,
>> it still loads the access.log with the files to be accessed.
>>
>> nmap -sP mysite.org reports the "Host is up"
>> when it is in it's 500 error state.
>>
>> It is odd.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> All of this makes it so I can not recommend a full flask site to customers.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> I am seeing no errors in the server's logs, the site's error.log, or anywhere really.
>>
>> Other sites on the same apache server run without problem while the flask site is 500'd.
>>
>> I am stuck
>>
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From clint.olsen at gmail.com  Wed Mar 18 01:31:30 2020
From: clint.olsen at gmail.com (Clint Olsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 22:31:30 -0700
Subject: [Flask] Flask session can't hold some types?
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Hi:

I was trying to stash away a struct object from a call to pwd.getpwnam().
It goes in a pwd.struct_passwd, but when I try to retrieve from the session
it comes back as a tuple. Is this a known issue?

Thanks,

-Clint
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