From mwh at python.net Sat Apr 1 10:32:30 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:32:30 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Authorisation - The access to this event has been restricted by its owner ... In-Reply-To: <200603311529.49807.paul@boddie.org.uk> (Paul Boddie's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:49 +0200") References: <442710AE.3000201@egenix.com> <442D2B30.3040205@egenix.com> <200603311529.49807.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <2mpsk1vgpt.fsf@starship.python.net> Paul Boddie writes: > On Friday 31 March 2006 15:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> > >> > I wonder why I always get the above message when clicking on any of >> > the proposal links on the web-site. I've registered, >> > but still can't get access to the proposal pages. Am I missing >> > something or are all these pages private ? >> > The web-site says: "submission opens March 15". > > [...] > >> The above problem still persists, BTW. > > I've registered an Indico account, but everything was still "restricted" last > time I checked the EuroPython pages. I think Michael Hudson was prepared to > make it all public (although accessible to registered users would be at least > somewhat better than the current situation), but perhaps someone persuaded > him otherwise at the last minute. I forgot I was going to do this and went on holiday for a week... > As for the submissions opening date, I'd imagine that the date is > unofficial given that no non-IRC announcement has been made, as far > as I can see. Yes, I meant to do that as well. Maybe I will after I have slept the overnight drive back from the holiday off... Cheers, mwh -- You're going to have to remember that I still think of Twisted as a big multiplayer game, and all this HTTP stuff is just kind of a grotty way to display room descriptions. -- Glyph Lefkowitz From chris at simplistix.co.uk Mon Apr 3 17:10:59 2006 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:10:59 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? Message-ID: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> Hi All, Any progress on the conference front? Thing's I'd still like to do: - Book a hotel near CERN. Anyone know of one they'd recommend? Hopefully with good internet access... - Submit a talk. http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44#interest ...seems to indicate that I can't do that yet :-/ - Book my flights. I need to know the definite dates and times for this. Am I right in thinking that if I arrive on the evening of July 2nd and leave on the evening of July 6th that I should get everything, including the CERN tour in? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From mwh at python.net Mon Apr 3 17:19:46 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:19:46 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 Call For Proposals Message-ID: <2m7j66u1nx.fsf@starship.python.net> EuroPython, the European Python and Zope conference, will this year take place at CERN near Geneva in Switzerland from Monday 3 July to Wednesday 5 July 2006. To make this conference as successful as the previous four conferences we need talks, and this is where you come in. This year, as before, we have a variety of tracks or topics that we encourage talks in: Science Python Language and Libraries Agile Development Web Frameworks Business and Applications Teaching Games and Entertainment Misfits As the conference is at CERN this year, we are particularly interested in hearing about Python being used in the scientific world. We want to be certain that you do not feel excluded by the above list of tracks; if you have something interesting to talk about and it doesn't really fit any of the above categories, the "Misfits" track is just for you. There will be a refereed papers track as well this year, which will be announced separately. To read a longer description of each track go here: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceProgram.py?confId=44 To submit a talk, go here: http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44 For more general information on the conference, please visit: http://www.europython.org/ -- There are two kinds of large software systems: those that evolved from small systems and those that don't work. -- Seen on slashdot.org, then quoted by amk From mwh at python.net Mon Apr 3 17:23:03 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:23:03 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> (Chris Withers's message of "Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:10:59 +0100") References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <2m3bguu1ig.fsf@starship.python.net> Chris Withers writes: > Hi All, > > Any progress on the conference front? > > Thing's I'd still like to do: > > - Book a hotel near CERN. Anyone know of one they'd recommend? Hopefully > with good internet access... Does http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44#ACCOMMODATION help at all? > - Submit a talk. > http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44#interest > ...seems to indicate that I can't do that yet :-/ You should be able to now. > - Book my flights. I need to know the definite dates and times for this. > Am I right in thinking that if I arrive on the evening of July 2nd and > leave on the evening of July 6th that I should get everything, > including the CERN tour in? I'm pretty sure you'll get everything with those dates. Benedikt is probably the one to inspire real confidence though. Cheers, mwh -- FORD: Just put the fish in your ear, come on, it's only a little one. ARTHUR: Uuuuuuuuggh! -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 1 From chris at simplistix.co.uk Mon Apr 3 17:33:22 2006 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:33:22 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <2m3bguu1ig.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <2m3bguu1ig.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> Michael Hudson wrote: > Does > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44#ACCOMMODATION > help at all? Not really, it doesn't make any recommendations :-/ I particularly care about: - closeness to the conference venue (and wherever it is, I want to know how to get from the hotel to the conference venue) - english speaking - decent internet connection - decent hotel ;-) Can anyone with local knowledge make any recommendations? >> - Submit a talk. >> http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44#interest >> ...seems to indicate that I can't do that yet :-/ > > You should be able to now. Done ;-) >> - Book my flights. I need to know the definite dates and times for this. >> Am I right in thinking that if I arrive on the evening of July 2nd and >> leave on the evening of July 6th that I should get everything, >> including the CERN tour in? > > I'm pretty sure you'll get everything with those dates. Benedikt is > probably the one to inspire real confidence though. Benedikt, you there? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From mal at egenix.com Mon Apr 3 22:46:28 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:46:28 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <2m3bguu1ig.fsf@starship.python.net> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> Chris Withers wrote: > Michael Hudson wrote: >> Does >> http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44#ACCOMMODATION >> help at all? > > Not really, it doesn't make any recommendations :-/ > > I particularly care about: > > - closeness to the conference venue > (and wherever it is, I want to know how to get from the hotel to the > conference venue) > > - english speaking > > - decent internet connection > > - decent hotel ;-) > > Can anyone with local knowledge make any recommendations? Same request from here :-) If you could tell us the exact address of the place where the conference will be held, I suppose that the various mapping sites would be of great help in finding the right hotel. Unfortunately, the CERN site seems to be missing this one bit of vital information (they only mention a snail mail address in form of a PO box :-). I tried this on map24.de but to no avail - CERN's not registered as POI :-( BTW, I found this URL on the CERN site which might be helpful: http://building.web.cern.ch/building/ It appears as if the conference is going to be held at the "Meyrin" site. >>> - Submit a talk. >>> http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44#interest >>> ...seems to indicate that I can't do that yet :-/ >> You should be able to now. > > Done ;-) Dito. Thanks for opening up the flood gates ;-) >>> - Book my flights. I need to know the definite dates and times for this. >>> Am I right in thinking that if I arrive on the evening of July 2nd and >>> leave on the evening of July 6th that I should get everything, >>> including the CERN tour in? >> I'm pretty sure you'll get everything with those dates. Benedikt is >> probably the one to inspire real confidence though. > > Benedikt, you there? Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 03 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon Apr 3 23:09:49 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:09:49 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> Message-ID: <200604032309.49474.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Monday 03 April 2006 22:46, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > Can anyone with local knowledge make any recommendations? > > Same request from here :-) I don't have any recent local knowledge, but... > If you could tell us the exact address of the place where > the conference will be held, I suppose that the various mapping > sites would be of great help in finding the right hotel. From the EuroPython site's travel section: http://public.web.cern.ch/public/Content/Chapters/VisitCERN/GetToCERN/GetToCERN-en.html The main entrance to CERN (Meyrin site) is located right by the French border on the north-west side of Geneva. The nearby districts aren't particularly exciting, but I imagine that there are decent/mainstream/expensive hotels near the airport, and there are several hotels in the centre of town. CERN's own accommodation isn't bad, though, for those undecided about whether a hotel is required. > Unfortunately, the CERN site seems to be missing this one > bit of vital information (they only mention a snail > mail address in form of a PO box :-). CERN's a big place, so I don't think it has (or needs) a street address. Here's the contact page, reachable from CERN's home page: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Content/ServiceLinks/Contact/Contact-en.html > I tried this on map24.de but to no avail - CERN's not registered > as POI :-( POI? > BTW, I found this URL on the CERN site which might be helpful: > > http://building.web.cern.ch/building/ > > It appears as if the conference is going to be held at > the "Meyrin" site. I imagine so, and Benedikt's previous information gives that impression, too. Certainly, I don't think the other major site (Prevessin) has much in the way of conference facilities. Paul From mal at egenix.com Tue Apr 4 12:23:18 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:23:18 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> Message-ID: <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> Matthew Bull wrote: > not sure if this helps but from what I've worked out from the Cern > site... > > http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=680000&Y=5790000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=DE&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=100000&multimap.x=141&multimap.y=264 > > is centered (pretty much) on the cern meyrin site (all along route de > meyrin) with the conference rooms and the hostel accomodation to the > west end. (look for "route niels bohr" as you zoom in) Thanks. I found a similar link yesterday using Map24: http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de (also points to the Niels Bohr route) It appears as if CERN is close to the airport, but requires a bus drive to the center of the city. > Matt > > On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:46 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Chris Withers wrote: >>> Michael Hudson wrote: >>>> Does >>>> http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44#ACCOMMODATION >>>> help at all? >>> Not really, it doesn't make any recommendations :-/ >>> >>> I particularly care about: >>> >>> - closeness to the conference venue >>> (and wherever it is, I want to know how to get from the hotel to the >>> conference venue) >>> >>> - english speaking >>> >>> - decent internet connection >>> >>> - decent hotel ;-) >>> >>> Can anyone with local knowledge make any recommendations? >> Same request from here :-) >> >> If you could tell us the exact address of the place where >> the conference will be held, I suppose that the various mapping >> sites would be of great help in finding the right hotel. >> >> Unfortunately, the CERN site seems to be missing this one >> bit of vital information (they only mention a snail >> mail address in form of a PO box :-). >> >> I tried this on map24.de but to no avail - CERN's not registered >> as POI :-( >> >> BTW, I found this URL on the CERN site which might be helpful: >> >> http://building.web.cern.ch/building/ >> >> It appears as if the conference is going to be held at >> the "Meyrin" site. >> >>>>> - Submit a talk. >>>>> http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44#interest >>>>> ...seems to indicate that I can't do that yet :-/ >>>> You should be able to now. >>> Done ;-) >> Dito. Thanks for opening up the flood gates ;-) >> >>>>> - Book my flights. I need to know the definite dates and times for this. >>>>> Am I right in thinking that if I arrive on the evening of July 2nd and >>>>> leave on the evening of July 6th that I should get everything, >>>>> including the CERN tour in? >>>> I'm pretty sure you'll get everything with those dates. Benedikt is >>>> probably the one to inspire real confidence though. >>> Benedikt, you there? >> Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 04 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Apr 4 14:25:26 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:25:26 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> Message-ID: <200604041425.26527.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 04 April 2006 12:23, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > Thanks. I found a similar link yesterday using Map24: > > http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin >&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de Crazy but unusable Java-based fly-by! :-) > (also points to the Niels Bohr route) > > It appears as if CERN is close to the airport, but requires a bus > drive to the center of the city. CERN isn't far from the airport by car or taxi, but it isn't reasonable walking distance, and you need to change buses to get to CERN: bus 10, then bus 9: http://www.tpg.ch/Cartographie/Schemas_lignes/decembre2005/l10.html http://www.tpg.ch/Cartographie/Schemas_lignes/decembre2005/l9.html The route overview in English: http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Anglais/Maps/defaut.htm (It also looks like bus 28 runs from the airport to Meyrin - H?pital-La Tour, and that's more or less walking distance. Interestingly, the route planner at http://tpg.hafas.de/bin/tp/query.exe/en suggests combining bus 28 with bus Y. I always used to take the 10/9 combination, myself.) As for the exact location of the conference, Benedikt pointed out the building locations previously, and if you visit the building search page (http://building.web.cern.ch/building/) and search for building 40, you'll see the conference location, the hostels (buildings 38 and 39) and the restaurant (restaurant 1, building 500/501). The reception, also listed on that page, is building 33. Paul From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Tue Apr 4 14:42:58 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:42:58 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> Message-ID: <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Matthew Bull wrote: >> not sure if this helps but from what I've worked out from the Cern >> site... >> >> http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi? >> client=public&X=680000&Y=5790000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&s >> rec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=DE&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&loca >> l=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=10000 >> 0&multimap.x=141&multimap.y=264 >> >> is centered (pretty much) on the cern meyrin site (all along route de >> meyrin) with the conference rooms and the hostel accomodation to the >> west end. (look for "route niels bohr" as you zoom in) > > Thanks. I found a similar link yesterday using Map24: > > http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels% > 20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90& > ol=de-de > > (also points to the Niels Bohr route) > > It appears as if CERN is close to the airport, but requires a bus > drive to the center of the city. No. There is a much shorter and faster connnection. But I think I should put all this information on the website soon. Cheers Benedikt From mal at egenix.com Tue Apr 4 20:10:25 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:10:25 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Progress? In-Reply-To: <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> Message-ID: <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Matthew Bull wrote: >>> not sure if this helps but from what I've worked out from the Cern >>> site... >>> >>> http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=680000&Y=5790000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=DE&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=100000&multimap.x=141&multimap.y=264 >>> >>> >>> is centered (pretty much) on the cern meyrin site (all along route de >>> meyrin) with the conference rooms and the hostel accomodation to the >>> west end. (look for "route niels bohr" as you zoom in) >> >> Thanks. I found a similar link yesterday using Map24: >> >> http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de >> >> >> (also points to the Niels Bohr route) >> >> It appears as if CERN is close to the airport, but requires a bus >> drive to the center of the city. > > No. There is a much shorter and faster connnection. But I think I should > put all this information on the website soon. Agreed :-) BTW, I found this URL by accident: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceOtherViews.py?view=standard&confId=44 which has some interesting hints, e.g. on how to get there, the network registration, passport + visa, the CERN visit on Thursday, etc. You might want to add a link to the EPC site or copy the contents there. Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 04 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From mal at egenix.com Tue Apr 4 20:13:15 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:13:15 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] CERN visit In-Reply-To: <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> Message-ID: <4432B73B.4040709@egenix.com> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > BTW, I found this URL by accident: > > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceOtherViews.py?view=standard&confId=44 > > which has some interesting hints, e.g. on how to get there, the > network registration, passport + visa, the CERN visit on Thursday, > etc. On that page I found that the CERN visit is planned for the morning of July 6. I was planning to leave on July 5th in the evening (probably like many others) and there are apparently no talk slots on the afternoon of July 5th. Would it be possible to move the CERN visit to the afternoon on July 5th or have a second one on that day ? Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 04 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From mal at egenix.com Tue Apr 4 20:20:57 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:20:57 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] CERN visit In-Reply-To: <4432B73B.4040709@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> <4432B73B.4040709@egenix.com> Message-ID: <4432B909.6050208@egenix.com> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> BTW, I found this URL by accident: >> >> http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceOtherViews.py?view=standard&confId=44 >> >> which has some interesting hints, e.g. on how to get there, the >> network registration, passport + visa, the CERN visit on Thursday, >> etc. > > On that page I found that the CERN visit is planned for the morning of > July 6. I was planning to leave on July 5th in the evening (probably > like many others) and there are apparently no talk slots on the > afternoon of July 5th. Hmm, looking again, there are some slots in the afternoon as well. > Would it be possible to move the CERN visit to the afternoon on > July 5th or have a second one on that day ? Perhaps on Sunday afternoon, then ? [Sorry for the spamming :-)] -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 04 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From chris at simplistix.co.uk Wed Apr 5 01:41:02 2006 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:41:02 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] CERN visit In-Reply-To: <4432B909.6050208@egenix.com> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> <4432B73B.4040709@egenix.com> <4432B909.6050208@egenix.com> Message-ID: <4433040E.7060009@simplistix.co.uk> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Would it be possible to move the CERN visit to the afternoon on >> July 5th or have a second one on that day ? > > Perhaps on Sunday afternoon, then ? > > [Sorry for the spamming :-)] *cough* Some of us are only arriving on the Sunday evening, so find this just as unpalatable ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From mal at egenix.com Wed Apr 5 09:40:50 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:40:50 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] CERN visit In-Reply-To: <4433040E.7060009@simplistix.co.uk> References: <44313B03.90607@simplistix.co.uk> <44314042.2090101@simplistix.co.uk> <443189A4.70506@egenix.com> <1144126421.5823.6.camel@quicksilver.telemedichouse.telemedicsystems.com> <44324916.7000707@egenix.com> <367D4980-52F4-43BA-8819-567563F4E925@cern.ch> <4432B691.9000403@egenix.com> <4432B73B.4040709@egenix.com> <4432B909.6050208@egenix.com> <4433040E.7060009@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <44337482.9030508@egenix.com> Chris Withers wrote: > M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> Would it be possible to move the CERN visit to the afternoon on >>> July 5th or have a second one on that day ? >> >> Perhaps on Sunday afternoon, then ? >> >> [Sorry for the spamming :-)] > > *cough* > > Some of us are only arriving on the Sunday evening, so find this just as > unpalatable ;-) Point taken :-) Nevermind, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 05 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Mon Apr 10 15:14:13 2006 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:14:13 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] manage talk submission Message-ID: <20060410131413.GE24333@crater.logilab.fr> Hello, This was probably explained before and I must have overlooked it: I am registered with Indico. How do I manage the talks that get submitted in my track ? -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From mwh at python.net Tue Apr 11 12:34:30 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:34:30 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] manage talk submission In-Reply-To: <20060410131413.GE24333@crater.logilab.fr> (Nicolas Chauvat's message of "Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:14:13 +0200") References: <20060410131413.GE24333@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: <2mzmiso0y1.fsf@starship.python.net> Nicolas Chauvat writes: > Hello, > > This was probably explained before Not so sure about that... > and I must have overlooked it: I am registered with Indico. How do I > manage the talks that get submitted in my track ? Well, I've added you to the list of "Users allowed to coordinate this track". I imagine this means you'll see a few more options when you're logged in. AFAICT though, there are no submissions for the science track as yet. Cheers, mwh -- wow. this code does something highly entertaining, but nowhere near correct -- from Twisted.Quotes From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Tue Apr 11 12:40:53 2006 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:40:53 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] manage talk submission In-Reply-To: <2mzmiso0y1.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <20060410131413.GE24333@crater.logilab.fr> <2mzmiso0y1.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20060411104053.GC21955@crater.logilab.fr> On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:34:30AM +0100, Michael Hudson wrote: > Well, I've added you to the list of "Users allowed to coordinate this > track". I imagine this means you'll see a few more options when > you're logged in. Indeed. A 'manage my track' item shows up in the menu on the left. > AFAICT though, there are no submissions for the > science track as yet. I'll wait :) -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From Hugo.Herter at ulb.ac.be Thu Apr 13 19:30:38 2006 From: Hugo.Herter at ulb.ac.be (Hugo Herter) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:30:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 - Fees Message-ID: <20060413173038.15AA88D3B@mach.vub.ac.be> Dear Sir, I would like to participate to next July Europython. I am a university student (Universit? Libre de Bruxelles), ready to present a lightning talk. Please inform me about student entrance fees. Thanks in advance, Hugo Herter _____________________ hugo.herter at ulb.ac.be 0485/191.123 From richard at commonground.com.au Thu Apr 20 08:15:50 2006 From: richard at commonground.com.au (Richard Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:15:50 +1000 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 Message-ID: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> I'm looking at planning for EuroPython 2006 and would like to know: 1. when registration is expected to open, 2. how much registration is expected to cost, 3. whether the accommodation section is going to be fleshed out, and 4. whether there's any preliminary information on the likely presentations. I'd be travelling a long way (from Australia) and staying for the full 10 days of conference and sprinting, so I just want to make sure I get it all right (and that it's worth the trip :) Richard From mwh at python.net Thu Apr 20 11:57:00 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:57:00 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 In-Reply-To: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> (Richard Jones's message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:15:50 +1000") References: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> Message-ID: <2mfyk8k1sj.fsf@starship.python.net> Richard Jones writes: > I'm looking at planning for EuroPython 2006 and would like to know: > > 1. when registration is expected to open, I'm not sure what the status is, but in a small number of weeks, I hope (by the end of May). > 2. how much registration is expected to cost, Depends on whether you're a speaker or not, a student or not or early bird or not... but varies from about 70 euros to 200 euros iirc. This should be written down somewhere obvious, yes. > 3. whether the accommodation section is going to be fleshed out, and I hope so! > 4. whether there's any preliminary information on the likely > presentations. Not yet. The submission deadline is May 31 and we *definitely* want to have a program up before the end of early bird registration (to give some idea of timescales). > I'd be travelling a long way (from Australia) and staying for the > full 10 days of conference and sprinting, I think I can safely predict that the cost of registration will almost be noise :) > so I just want to make sure I get it all right (and that it's worth > the trip :) Well, I hope it will be! You won't be the remotest ever attendee of EP though, we had a guy from New Zealand a couple of years ago... Cheers, mwh -- I have a cat, so I know that when she digs her very sharp claws into my chest or stomach it's really a sign of affection, but I don't see any reason for programming languages to show affection with pain. -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp From mal at egenix.com Thu Apr 20 16:09:52 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:09:52 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 In-Reply-To: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> References: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> Message-ID: <44479630.5000802@egenix.com> Richard, > I'm looking at planning for EuroPython 2006 and would like to know: > > 1. when registration is expected to open, > 2. how much registration is expected to cost, > 3. whether the accommodation section is going to be fleshed out, and I've found the list of hotels on this page useful: http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/listhotel.html Unfortunately that page doesn't say whether the hotels are within walking distance of CERN or not. Here's a link to a map site that at least lists a few of the hotels on the above page: http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de This one is close, but also rather expensive: http://www.nh-hotels.com/portal/page?_pageid=9,346878&_dad=porweb&_schema=PORTAL30&purl=/pls/porweb/url/page/toplevelpages/home_EN/my_corporate_nh_EN/DETALLE_HOTEL_CORP_SIN_EN&p1=nemo&p2=GENEVA&p3=p_idioma&p4=EN&nhagentid=10006&nhsubagentid=100060000000 It is listed as offering special prices for CERN visitors. > 4. whether there's any preliminary information on the likely > presentations. It would be nice indeed to at least see the list of registered (but not yet approved) talks. > I'd be travelling a long way (from Australia) and staying for the > full 10 days of conference and sprinting, so I just want to make sure > I get it all right (and that it's worth the trip :) -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 20 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From mwh at python.net Thu Apr 20 17:12:05 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:12:05 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 In-Reply-To: <44479630.5000802@egenix.com> (M.'s message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:09:52 +0200") References: <7896F0A1-89DD-44C9-A795-94172E04552D@commonground.com.au> <44479630.5000802@egenix.com> Message-ID: <2m7j5kjn7e.fsf@starship.python.net> "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: >> 4. whether there's any preliminary information on the likely >> presentations. > > It would be nice indeed to at least see the list of registered > (but not yet approved) talks. I'm not so sure that's a great idea in the case of abstracts that eventually get rejected. I'm also not sure it's possible with indico, but I haven't poked terribly hard. There have been 12 abstracts submitted so far, FWIW. Get poking, track chairs! Cheers, mwh -- Any form of evilness that can be detected without *too* much effort is worth it... I have no idea what kind of evil we're looking for here or how to detect is, so I can't answer yes or no. -- Guido Van Rossum, python-dev From Audun.Ostrem.Nordal at cern.ch Thu Apr 20 22:22:40 2006 From: Audun.Ostrem.Nordal at cern.ch (Audun Ostrem Nordal) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:22:40 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 Message-ID: <4C5890AC4162B84F9661BEFE14762A0A5E9D1B@cernxchg04.cern.ch> Hello, list. I work at CERN and report to Benedict :-) Regarding accomodation, I would just like to point out the Auberge Communale de Meyrin, a small inn (single room is 85 CHF/night). To my knowledge that is the closest offsite accomodation to CERN, at least on the Swiss side. I'd say within 15 minutes walking distance (or 3 minutes by bus). They have a Google Earth placemark on their webpage http://www.auberge-meyrin.ch/auberge_hotel.html. Not at all fancy, but if all you need is a bed I'd say it is a sound deal. They have a good restaurant, actually. I booked someone in there once, and they did speak a little English. Hope that helps, __ Audun Ostrem Nordal tel: +41.22.76.74427 CERN IT/IS 1211 Geneve 23 Switzerland > -----Original Message----- > From: europython-bounces at python.org > [mailto:europython-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of M.-A. Lemburg > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:10 PM > To: Richard Jones > Cc: europython at python.org > Subject: Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2006 > > Richard, > > > I'm looking at planning for EuroPython 2006 and would like to know: > > > > 1. when registration is expected to open, 2. how much > registration is > > expected to cost, 3. whether the accommodation section is > going to be > > fleshed out, and > > I've found the list of hotels on this page useful: > > http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/listhotel.html > > Unfortunately that page doesn't say whether the hotels are > within walking distance of CERN or not. > > Here's a link to a map site that at least lists a few of the > hotels on the above page: > > http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217 > &city0=Meyrin&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de > > This one is close, but also rather expensive: > > http://www.nh-hotels.com/portal/page?_pageid=9,346878&_dad=por > web&_schema=PORTAL30&purl=/pls/porweb/url/page/toplevelpages/h > ome_EN/my_corporate_nh_EN/DETALLE_HOTEL_CORP_SIN_EN&p1=nemo&p2 > =GENEVA&p3=p_idioma&p4=EN&nhagentid=10006&nhsubagentid=100060000000 > > It is listed as offering special prices for CERN visitors. > > > 4. whether there's any preliminary information on the likely > > presentations. > > It would be nice indeed to at least see the list of > registered (but not yet approved) talks. > > > I'd be travelling a long way (from Australia) and staying > for the full > > 10 days of conference and sprinting, so I just want to make > sure I get > > it all right (and that it's worth the trip :) > > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > eGenix.com > > Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, > Apr 20 2006) > >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... > http://www.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... > http://zope.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... > http://python.egenix.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for > free ! :::: > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > From chacaraconfeccoes at dglnet.com.br Fri Apr 21 06:05:20 2006 From: chacaraconfeccoes at dglnet.com.br (Ch�cara Confec��es) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:05:20 GMT Subject: [EuroPython] Moda Feminina . Message-ID: <20060421040403.31AB64CDF@mx1.dglnet.com.br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060421/d7b7feee/attachment.html From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 13:06:00 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:06:00 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> Hello felloe EuroPythonistas! today I started telephone-poking would-be speakers of the EP conference. Of course I urged them to register and to do a proposal ... so we get at least a visitor, if not a speaker. But... http://indico.cern.ch/confRegistrationFormDisplay.py/display?confId=44 Registration disabled is. That is bad; we should IMMEDEATELY enable it again :) People are willing to register if they want to do a talk; thats a "2 in 1 decision", and we should really not force them to split this decision Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That is bad; we should IMMEDEATELY enable it > again :) It is my understanding that it is not possible to pay for the conference yet. Are you willing to let people register and assume they will pay up later? I guess it would be a good thing to hear from Benedikt or Joachim or whoever about what the status of this end of things is. > People are willing to register if they want to do a talk; thats a "2 > in 1 decision", and we should really not force them to split this > decision I would also like a pony :) Cheers, mwh -- First time I've gotten a programming job that required a drug test. I was worried they were going to say "you don't have enough LSD in your system to do Unix programming". -- Paul Tomblin -- http://home.xnet.com/~raven/Sysadmin/ASR.Quotes.html From asouzaleite at gmx.de Fri Apr 21 14:15:58 2006 From: asouzaleite at gmx.de (Aroldo Souza-Leite) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:58 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Moda Feminina .] Message-ID: <4448CCFE.8090301@gmx.de> Hi, I got this from the list. It looks very much like spam (don't open it!), perhaps targeted at me because of my Portuguese-sounding name. Whom should I notify without having to bother the list next time it happens? Cheers. Aroldo. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Q2jhY2FyYSBDb25mZWPn9WVzIDxjaGFjYXJhY29uZmVjY29lc0BkZ2xuZXQuY29tLmJyPg==?= Subject: [EuroPython] Moda Feminina . Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:05:20 GMT Size: 5264 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060421/b5a81816/attachment.mht From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 14:34:13 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:34:13 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration In-Reply-To: <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> Michael, > Registration disabled is. That is bad; we should IMMEDEATELY enable it > > again :) > > It is my understanding that it is not possible to pay for the > conference yet. Are you willing to let people register and assume > they will pay up later? why not? There is no need to only assume payment; just some notice like "please come back to pay later, or your registration will not be completely valid". I guess it would be a good thing to hear from Benedikt or Joachim or > whoever about what the status of this end of things is. I concur. (if concur is the right word for "+1") I would also like a pony :) > Don't wish to hard your dreams, they may come true and you can't help them. Are you really willing to take all the work connected with a pony, or are you just looking to meet all those hot horse riding girls? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060421/e2108027/attachment.htm From mwh at python.net Fri Apr 21 15:31:31 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:31:31 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Moda Feminina .] In-Reply-To: <4448CCFE.8090301@gmx.de> (Aroldo Souza-Leite's message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:58 +0200") References: <4448CCFE.8090301@gmx.de> Message-ID: <2mmzefhx70.fsf@starship.python.net> Aroldo Souza-Leite writes: > Hi, > > I got this from the list. It looks very much like spam (don't open > it!), perhaps targeted at me because of my Portuguese-sounding > name. Whom should I notify without having to bother the list next > time it happens? Yeah, it's spam. We have pretty effective spam filters, but they're occasionally fallibe, I'm afraid. Cheers, mwh -- if python is an orchestra, overloaded operators are "miscellaneous percussion" -- from Twisted.Quotes From aiste at pov.lt Fri Apr 21 16:18:40 2006 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:18:40 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> >> Registration disabled is. That is bad; we should IMMEDEATELY enable it >>> again :) >> It is my understanding that it is not possible to pay for the >> conference yet. Are you willing to let people register and assume >> they will pay up later? > > why not? There is no need to only assume payment; just some notice like > "please come back to pay later, or your registration will not be completely > valid". Sounds like a recipe for dissapointment to me. I think the registration should be enabled only when payment options are available. > I guess it would be a good thing to hear from Benedikt or Joachim or >> whoever about what the status of this end of things is. > > I concur. (if concur is the right word for "+1") +1, are we going to have an irc meeting any time soon? (having just returned from holiday I'm full of energy to do something :P ) > > I would also like a pony :) > > Don't wish to hard your dreams, they may come true and you can't help them. > Are you really willing to take all the work connected with a pony, or are > you just looking to meet all those hot horse riding girls? Ponies are nice, but I would prefer a second horse and someone to pay for its upkeep :P -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From mwh at python.net Sat Apr 22 15:14:36 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:14:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> (Aiste Kesminaite's message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:18:40 +0300") References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> Message-ID: <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> Aiste Kesminaite writes: >> I guess it would be a good thing to hear from Benedikt or Joachim or >>> whoever about what the status of this end of things is. >> >> I concur. (if concur is the right word for "+1") > > +1, are we going to have an irc meeting any time soon? I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are good for me. How about others? > (having just returned from holiday I'm full of energy to do > something :P ) Cool :) It seems to me that we have (at least) three moderately pressing needs: - registration status - sponsorship - keynotes The former I really would like to Not Be My Problem. I'm willing to do work on the admin side of the sponsorship side stuff, but don't want to be the one bugging companies to say "please sponsor us!". The third definitely is within my area of concern. Guido will give a key note again. Who will give the other one? There was talk of Tim Berners-Lee -- has anyone asked him about it? Can we afford him? Here at the ACCU conference there are any number of people who might make good keynoters, but I haven't actually asked anyone. How many keynotes do we want? Etc. We should talk about all these things in the meeting. Cheers, mwh -- Two things I learned for sure during a particularly intense acid trip in my own lost youth: (1) everything is a trivial special case of something else; and, (2) death is a bunch of blue spheres. -- Tim Peters, 1 May 1998 From ms at cerenity.org Sun Apr 23 12:19:10 2006 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:19:10 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200604231119.10810.ms@cerenity.org> On Saturday 22 April 2006 14:14, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite writes: > >> I guess it would be a good thing to hear from Benedikt or Joachim or > >> > >>> whoever about what the status of this end of things is. > >> > >> I concur. (if concur is the right word for "+1") > > > > +1, are we going to have an irc meeting any time soon? > > I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are > good for me. How about others? Tuesday & Wednesday are bad for me, FWIW. Michael. From aiste at pov.lt Sun Apr 23 16:49:50 2006 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:49:50 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> Michael Hudson wrote: > I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are > good for me. How about others? Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From paul at zeapartners.org Mon Apr 24 08:42:01 2006 From: paul at zeapartners.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:42:01 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> Message-ID: <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > > > Michael Hudson wrote: >> I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are >> good for me. How about others? > > Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. Same for me. --Paul From mwh at python.net Tue Apr 25 11:17:19 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:17:19 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> (Paul Everitt's message of "Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:42:01 +0200") References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> Message-ID: <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> Paul Everitt writes: > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > >> >> >> Michael Hudson wrote: >>> I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are >>> good for me. How about others? >> >> Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. > > Same for me. So while it would be nice to talk to Aiste and Paul this afternoon, it's a bit short notice and my plea obviously hasn't reached the people I was hoping it would reach: people at CERN, Benedikt, Joachim, etc. Are they here too? Cheers, mwh -- Windows XP: Big cow. Stands there, not especially malevolent but constantly crapping on your carpet. Eventually you have to open a window to let the crap out or you die. -- Jim's pedigree of operating systems, asr From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 11:22:39 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:22:39 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604250222m19272283n23837c2addda5321@mail.gmail.com> Michael, So while it would be nice to talk to Aiste and Paul this afternoon, > it's a bit short notice and my plea obviously hasn't reached the > people I was hoping it would reach: people at CERN, Benedikt, Joachim, > etc. Are they here too? > > I concur that it would be nice. As the actual central problem is "when to open the registration" which is a direct dependant of "payment? HOW?", there is no real use to ircmeet without CERN.Benedikt or CERN.Joachim. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060425/e85593a1/attachment.htm From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Tue Apr 25 11:21:00 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:21:00 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: Hi Michael, On Apr 25, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Paul Everitt writes: > >> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Michael Hudson wrote: >>>> I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are >>>> good for me. How about others? >>> >>> Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. >> >> Same for me. > > So while it would be nice to talk to Aiste and Paul this afternoon, > it's a bit short notice and my plea obviously hasn't reached the > people I was hoping it would reach: people at CERN, Benedikt, Joachim, > etc. Are they here too? ups. I forgot to answer. I will be there today. What time? Cheers Benedikt From mwh at python.net Tue Apr 25 13:25:12 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:25:12 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: (Benedikt Hegner's message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:21:00 +0200") References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2mzmi9hp7r.fsf@starship.python.net> Benedikt Hegner writes: > Hi Michael, > > > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: > >> Paul Everitt writes: >> >>> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael Hudson wrote: >>>>> I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are >>>>> good for me. How about others? >>>> >>>> Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. >>> >>> Same for me. >> >> So while it would be nice to talk to Aiste and Paul this afternoon, >> it's a bit short notice and my plea obviously hasn't reached the >> people I was hoping it would reach: people at CERN, Benedikt, Joachim, >> etc. Are they here too? > ups. I forgot to answer. I will be there today. What time? Um, er, 6pm? Cheers, mwh -- yo ho ho and a bottle of internet -- from Twisted.Quotes From mwh at python.net Tue Apr 25 14:00:13 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:00:13 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2mzmi9hp7r.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:25:12 +0100") References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <2mr73ri2ah.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> <2mzmi9hp7r.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2mvesxhnle.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Hudson writes: > Um, er, 6pm? For clarity, I meant "6pm in the time zone in which I now sit", which for a change is Central European Summer Time (I'm in Germany). I don't have a strong opinion about the time, I have another online meeting at 5pm in the same timezone so I'll be stuck to the computer around that time anyway. Cheers, mwh -- Screaming 14-year-old boys attempting to prove to each other that they are more 3133t than j00. -- Reason #8 for quitting slashdot today, from http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/slashdot.html From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 14:24:28 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:24:28 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues In-Reply-To: <2mvesxhnle.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0604210406s587ab097nc863a79319523890@mail.gmail.com> <7be3f35d0604210534h6e048734ya8054d2b04ee2561@mail.gmail.com> <4448E9C0.9080904@pov.lt> <2m8xpxiwg3.fsf_-_@starship.python.net> <444B940E.4050804@pov.lt> <919C8248-3C4A-44EC-8E5A-A298ADEE669D@zeapartners.org> <2m4q0ihv4w.fsf@starship.python.net> <2mzmi9hp7r.fsf@starship.python.net> <2mvesxhnle.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604250524w7802e4a6hc313d63997234852@mail.gmail.com> in an attempt to promote iso 8601, at least partially... 2006-04-25T18:00:00 CEST is fine by me Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060425/04cabe7f/attachment.html From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 18:53:27 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:53:27 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorsagrement -> what we had in 2005, which is a rehersal of 2004 Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604250953s3a060661md6d272b52ec8886@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dario Lopez-K?sten Date: Apr 13, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorsagrement To: europython at python.org hi, I tried to check the website but it is down at the moment. Here is the text from last years call for sponsors: Can we reuse it as it is? If so I'll go forward and send it to potential sponsors tomorrow. ----- EPC 2005 -------- Trade show and becoming a sponsor 1. You can have a small space for free. This includes a desk, a chair and 2 meters of wall space. You get one electric outlet (same standard as in Germany, the Netherlands etc) and access to the wireless network. You are not insured by the conference. At least one member of your organisation must be attending the conference, but you may staff your booth with non attendees. 2. You are required to keep your booth manned during the "trade show". This will take place for a period of 6 hours. Lunch break, afternoon session and an hour or so after the end of the conference day on Tuesday 8 June is what is preliminarily planned. You can have your booth up manned or unmanned the rest of the time - it is up to each company to decide. 3. You can rent your own seminar room at 100 Euro per hour for demonstrations, private seminars, job interviews etc. (Evening hours cost more. Ask for an offer.) 4. You can rent more space and equipment on the show floor. Prices are close to "at cost". Contact Europython for an offer. 5. You can become a sponsor of the conference. The following options are available: * Gold sponsor - 2000 Euro This gives you: o Your name/link on the website o An ad in the conference program o A streamer in each conference room o A streamer in the entrance o A 15 minute talk before one of the keynotes * Sponsor - 500 Euro This gives you: o Your name/link on the website o An ad in the conference program o A streamer in each conference room * Advertiser - 100 Euro This gives you: o Your name/link on the website o An ad in the conference program * Organising sponsor - At least 5 man days of work effort o Your name/link on the website o An ad in the conference program o A streamer in the entrance o A seminar room for 2 hours o Double exhibition space for free * Special sponsor - Negotiable If you have an offer which is of mutual benefit, we are ready to hear it. Please contact the Europython organisers. 6. If you want to put on a special event, please contact the Europython organisers 7. For planning purposes we need your decision to participate no later than 15 May 2004. Any participants joining after this date will be invoiced an administrative fee of 100 Euro, if they can be accomodated. ----- /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. "...and click? damn, I need to kill -9 Word again..." - b using macosx _______________________________________________ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060425/5e4bb2f2/attachment.htm From mwh at python.net Thu Apr 27 14:48:41 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:48:41 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] keynoters! Message-ID: <2mlktrfal2.fsf@starship.python.net> It gives me great pleasure to announce that the keynote speakers at this year's EuroPython conference will be Guido van Rossum and Alan Kay. If you don't know who Alan Kay is (a) for shame (b) Wikipedia has a page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kay . If you don't know who Guido is, well, what are you doing here? He's even promised to do a different talk than "the state of the Python universe" this time :) It would be cool if people could blog about this! Cheers, mwh -- "Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crap) applies to Usenet." "Nothing guarantees that the 10% isn't crap, too." -- Gene Spafford's Axiom #2 of Usenet, and a corollary From mwh at python.net Thu Apr 27 15:07:39 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:07:39 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] last and next meeting Message-ID: <2mhd4ff9pg.fsf@starship.python.net> On Tuesday evening, we had an hour long discussion about matters EuroPythonic. We talked about keynote speakers, which seems to have sorted itself out and I just sent a mail about. We talked about registration issues. There are apparently some political issues at CERN about this:( Joachim and Benedikt are the people here. Benedikt has been unwell, but is now better (hooray!) and they both have some time in the next few days to work on this. Michael proposed a deadline of May 15 for getting registration open. We need to decide fees, and publish them on the website. I believe the most recent suggestion was in this mail: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-February/005605.html are we still happy with those amounts? We talked about bank accounts. There was consensus that using the bank account we used last year, which is in Sweden but in Euros was the sanest approach. I don't know if things need to be done so that Benedikt can access the account, and there were questions about how to handle tax issues. We talked about sponsorship. Harald posted to the list something like the arrangements used last year. Michael said that he'd figured out the website side of sponsorship, at least for the europython.org side of things. We need someone to go chasing companies for sponsorship. And then it was an hour an people had to go. I'd like to propose a meeting for next Tuesday May 2, possibly an hour earlier, so 5 pm central european summer time, 4pm uk summer time, 3pm UTC. I won't be there, I'll be somewhere like here instead: http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=57.0522&lon=-5.4928&scale=100000&icon=x I really hope activity doesn't grind to a halt while I'm away. Cheers, mwh -- If we can only figure out a way to transform the key signing party into a drinking game, I think we'd get a much higher level of participation. -- Barry Warsaw From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Apr 28 14:09:22 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:09:22 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Very ... challenging submissions Message-ID: <7be3f35d0604280509o1b767304p8c6a63cae3d6c31c@mail.gmail.com> I just checked the business track and found two submissions of macedonian students, who think that attending the conference will really pimp up their life. Of course everybody is welcome; but it smells a little fishy. Does anybody know of an actual "I am xxxx ungdu from macedonia" scam? If not, I will welcome them and make them wait for the real submission. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060428/54aa6141/attachment.htm From andy at reportlab.com Fri Apr 28 17:07:53 2006 From: andy at reportlab.com (Andy Robinson) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:07:53 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Very ... challenging submissions In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0604280509o1b767304p8c6a63cae3d6c31c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0604280509o1b767304p8c6a63cae3d6c31c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44522FC9.6020404@reportlab.com> Harald Armin Massa wrote: > I just checked the business track and found two submissions of > macedonian students, who think that attending the conference will really > pimp up their life. > > Of course everybody is welcome; but it smells a little fishy. Does > anybody know of an actual "I am xxxx ungdu from macedonia" scam? If the name is 'ungdu' it's not a Macedonian ;-) We get a few of these each year for Python-UK/ACCU, usually Nigeria, but never from that part of the world. Most "Former Yugoslav Republics" have no trouble entering the EU for visits. But Switzerland is not EU and a glance at their site tells me Macedonians need visas. There's a list here in 3 languages (not English): http://www.weisungen.bfm.admin.ch/einreise/visumvorschriften_f.asp I usually find it amusing to tell these people that I have a duty to prove all applicants are bona fide, and I them to demonstrate some knowledge of Python or that they work in the business. One guy a couple of years back made a huge excuse about burned down offices, exploding fax machines and why he could not prove to me that he was really a professional programmer, then eventually managed to quote back verbatim the first paragraph from www.python.org as proof of his "expertise"! This was remarkable initiative; all others have gone away rather quickly after the first reply. - Andy Robinson