From lac at strakt.com Sat Nov 1 04:50:29 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Sat Nov 1 04:50:34 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] website Message-ID: <200311010950.hA19oTgC011591@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> The website needs to get the new dates for EP 2004 put on them, so people going there can see where and when. Laura From tom at aragne.com Mon Nov 3 14:20:38 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Mon Nov 3 15:06:22 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] website References: <200311010950.hA19oTgC011591@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <010b01c3a241$b0479100$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Hi Laura, Sorry, but till now I'm unaware of the exact conference dates (I know there were 2 proposals and 1 favorite, but I thought it still had to be checked for the exact dates). Is there another list of place where conversations are taking place, since I haven't received news for a few weeks now. Thanks in advance, Tom. Laura Creighton wrote: > The website needs to get the new dates for EP 2004 put on them, so > people going there can see where and when. > > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From magnus at thinkware.se Mon Nov 3 16:24:55 2003 From: magnus at thinkware.se (Magnus Lycka) Date: Mon Nov 3 16:25:02 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Web site Message-ID: Hi I thought I'd try to contribute a bit to the EuroPython web site. I thought I could write a bit about G?teborg, how to get there, what to do, where to stay etc. Are there any preferences on how to go about this? I assume we are using the europython-develop.zope.nl/epc site, right? -- Magnus Lycka, Thinkware AB Alvans vag 99, SE-907 50 UMEA, SWEDEN phone: int+46 70 582 80 65, fax: int+46 70 612 80 65 http://www.thinkware.se/ mailto:magnus@thinkware.se From lac at strakt.com Mon Nov 3 16:28:58 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Mon Nov 3 16:29:08 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] website In-Reply-To: Message from "Tom Deprez" of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:20:38 +0100." <010b01c3a241$b0479100$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> References: <200311010950.hA19oTgC011591@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <010b01c3a241$b0479100$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Message-ID: <200311032128.hA3LSxKl021245@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> In a message of Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:20:38 +0100, "Tom Deprez" writes: >Hi Laura, > >Sorry, but till now I'm unaware of the exact conference dates (I know >there were 2 proposals and 1 favorite, but I thought it still had to be >checked for the exact dates). Is there another list of place where >conversations are taking place, since I haven't received news for a few >weeks now. > >Thanks in advance, >Tom. > >Laura Creighton wrote: >> The website needs to get the new dates for EP 2004 put on them, so >> people going there can see where and when. >> >> Laura >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EuroPython mailing list >> EuroPython@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython Its Monday-Wednesday 7 8 9 of June. And things have been dead. But I am back from vacation. When I unbury myself from mail, things will get cracking again, if not sooner. Laura From lac at strakt.com Mon Nov 3 16:36:08 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Mon Nov 3 16:36:15 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Web site In-Reply-To: Message from Magnus Lycka of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:24:55 +0100." References: Message-ID: <200311032136.hA3La81v021273@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> In a message of Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:24:55 +0100, Magnus Lycka writes: >Hi I thought I'd try to contribute a bit to the EuroPython >web site. > >I thought I could write a bit about G?teborg, how to get there, >what to do, where to stay etc. Are there any preferences on how >to go about this? > >I assume we are using the europython-develop.zope.nl/epc site, >right? > > >-- >Magnus Lycka, Thinkware AB >Alvans vag 99, SE-907 50 UMEA, SWEDEN >phone: int+46 70 582 80 65, fax: int+46 70 612 80 65 >http://www.thinkware.se/ mailto:magnus@thinkware.se > Aha, speaking of getting cracking ... :-) I think that it would be good if what you produced came in nice separable chunks -- one chunk for each 'what to do' so that people can add their 'what to do's' without editing one soon to be humungous file. Also so you can post them one at a time here and drum up even more enthuthiasm. I think when writing about things which are good for families, mentioning that is a good idea. I'd sort of like a whole 'how to be a tourist' page .... The Charleroi Map for 'where hotels are' and getting around was very good. I'd like to be as good or better. thanks Magnus! Laura From tom at aragne.com Mon Nov 3 17:14:45 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Mon Nov 3 17:07:23 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] website References: <200311010950.hA19oTgC011591@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <010b01c3a241$b0479100$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> <200311032128.hA3LSxKl021245@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <017101c3a257$e3cf6460$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Thanks, I've updated the webpages. As previous told, I'm not able to work on the new website, so until further notice I update the old website. The internals are horrifiying, but I know them pretty well and it takes me not much time to add/change things. So I'm able to contribute. More changes? Let me know. Regards, Tom. Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:20:38 +0100, "Tom Deprez" writes: >> Hi Laura, >> >> Sorry, but till now I'm unaware of the exact conference dates (I know >> there were 2 proposals and 1 favorite, but I thought it still had to >> be checked for the exact dates). Is there another list of place where >> conversations are taking place, since I haven't received news for a >> few weeks now. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Tom. >> >> Laura Creighton wrote: >>> The website needs to get the new dates for EP 2004 put on them, so >>> people going there can see where and when. >>> >>> Laura >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EuroPython mailing list >>> EuroPython@python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > Its Monday-Wednesday 7 8 9 of June. > > And things have been dead. But I am back from vacation. When I > unbury myself from mail, things will get cracking again, if not > sooner. > > Laura From jacob at strakt.com Wed Nov 5 15:30:14 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Wed Nov 5 15:30:23 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release Message-ID: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> Here follows a draft press release. It is only intended as a heads-up, with more information sent out around 1 December. Comments and changes are welcome. Jacob The Europython Team is proud to announce the third Europython Conference, to be held at the Chalmers University of Technology, G?teborg, Sweden on 7-9 June 2004. After two successful years in Charleroi, Belgium, it is time for Europython to change venue and raise its ambitions. "We will have more venue space at lower cost next year", says Dar?o Lopez-K?sten, who is in charge of venue booking. "This will allow us to have a fourth track as well as holding BOF sessions and private meetings. We will also have space for a small Python exhibition at very low cost for participating companies." "Reducing cost and increasing quality has been a main concern", says Laura Creighton, local organiser. "We have made a block reservation of about 150 beds in good quality 2 and 4 bed rooms that will be available for booking at very low prices. I am also going to work on the catering side. Apart from lunches and coffee, we hope to have a conference dinner next year." "All the track chairs are continuing their work", comments Martijn Faasen, chair of the Python Frameworks track. "This allows us to expand the program with new tracks, since more volunteers are joining in the the planning and organising. We have plans for a short refereed paper track, a social skills track and an expanded business track. We would like to have an education track as well and are looking for someone who wants to chair it." Jacob Hall?n, head organiser adds: "We are already looking forward to June 2004. We think next Europython is going to be a lot of fun. Apart from the conference itself, there will be sprints held both before and after the conference. I am rather certain both Zope and the PyPy project will hold sprints. Other people who want to hold sprints should contact us as soon as possible. For the conference, we hope more people will join us as volunteers to help make this the best Python conference ever. So please reserve 7-9 June 2004 in your calendars and keep a lookout for more information in the next few weeks. The best deals will be for the early birds." Volunteers and people having questions and inquiries should send them by email to europython@python.org. From mwh at python.net Thu Nov 6 07:43:51 2003 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu Nov 6 07:43:54 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> ( =?iso-8859-1?q?Jacob_Hall=E9n's_message_of?= "Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:14 +0100") References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> Jacob Hall?n writes: > Here follows a draft press release. It is only intended as a heads-up, with > more information sent out around 1 December. Comments and changes are > welcome. Should there be a champion (not me!) of the business side of things among the quotees? "EuroPython will be an oppurtunity for businesses that leverage Python to communicate with each other and developers...". Otherwise, looks good. By the time the release goes out, we should make sure that there's transport info and accomodation on the web site. Apropos the website, is what's at http://europython-develop.zope.nl/epc going to become the "offical" web site? What needs to be done before that can happen? Or is sticking with the CMS (for want of a better word) we have now the safer option? Cheers, mwh -- : exploding like a turd Never had that happen to me, I have to admit. They do that often in your world? -- Eric The Read & Dave Brown, asr From Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr Thu Nov 6 08:18:57 2003 From: Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Thu Nov 6 08:19:09 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:43:51PM +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > site. Apropos the website, is what's at > > http://europython-develop.zope.nl/epc > > going to become the "offical" web site? What needs to be done before > that can happen? Or is sticking with the CMS (for want of a better > word) we have now the safer option? I'd suggest we ask for help on the #plone forum and/or mailing-list. We'll probably find there people willing to spend the missing hours that we other organizers don't have (at least that I don't have) to get it in good shape. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From xavier.heymans at skynet.be Thu Nov 6 08:21:18 2003 From: xavier.heymans at skynet.be (Xavier Heymans) Date: Thu Nov 6 08:21:36 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20031106112750.0236e4a0@pop.swing.be> Message-ID: Hello you all, I would like to send you some suggestions based on communication experience as well as team management: people never get a better result if they depreciate the work done by others. Remarks 1 : >> "After two successful years in Charleroi, Belgium, it is time for >> Europython to change venue and raise its ambitions." "We will have more >> venue space at lower cost next year", Suggestion : this phrase could be understood as a depreciation of the work done before. You never win depreciating others, prefer promotion of continuous success and new services. I would prefer that you write something like : "the success of the past 2 editions, continuous growth of the market and suggestions received from atteendees have led us to some reorganization of the programming: more sessions will be held, ...." Remark 2 = same as remark 1 "Reducing cost and increasing quality has been a main concern" I would prefer "low cost lodging and new services will be offered to attendees"... Remark 3 = same as remark 1 "to help make this the best Python conference ever" If you look back, not many people had the guts to organize the first Europython. Maybe in 2006 your organization (as good as it will be) will appear small and unprofessional. Prefer for example "help make this Python conference continue the momentum and growth initiated by its founders"... People never loose to congratulate good work done by others. Just suggestions. Fell free to follow it or not, All the best, Xavier Heymans (working with Godefroid Chappelle) -- ALYNXIS sprl Avenue Maeterlinck 18, 1348 Louvain-La-Neuve T?l/Fax : 010 45 99 02, Gsm : 0478 516 777 xavier.heymans@skynet.be TVA BE 476 498 642, RC 95 176 >> >> Here follows a draft press release. It is only intended as a heads-up, with >> more information sent out around 1 December. Comments and changes are >> welcome. >> >> Jacob >> >> >> >> The Europython Team is proud to announce the third Europython >> Conference, to be held at the Chalmers University of Technology, >> G?teborg, Sweden on 7-9 June 2004. >> >> After two successful years in Charleroi, Belgium, it is time for >> Europython to change venue and raise its ambitions. "We will have more >> venue space at lower cost next year", says Dar?o Lopez-K?sten, who is >> in charge of venue booking. "This will allow us to have a fourth track >> as well as holding BOF sessions and private meetings. We will also >> have space for a small Python exhibition at very low cost for >> participating companies." >> >> "Reducing cost and increasing quality has been a main concern", says >> Laura Creighton, local organiser. "We have made a block reservation of >> about 150 beds in good quality 2 and 4 bed rooms that will be >> available for booking at very low prices. I am also going to work on >> the catering side. Apart from lunches and coffee, we hope to have a >> conference dinner next year." >> >> "All the track chairs are continuing their work", comments Martijn >> Faasen, chair of the Python Frameworks track. "This allows us to >> expand the program with new tracks, since more volunteers are joining >> in the the planning and organising. We have plans for a short refereed >> paper track, a social skills track and an expanded business track. We >> would like to have an education track as well and are looking for >> someone who wants to chair it." >> >> Jacob Hall?n, head organiser adds: "We are already looking forward to >> June 2004. We think next Europython is going to be a lot of fun. Apart >> from the conference itself, there will be sprints held both before and >> after the conference. I am rather certain both Zope and the PyPy >> project will hold sprints. Other people who want to hold sprints >> should contact us as soon as possible. For the conference, we hope >> more people will join us as volunteers to help make this the best >> Python conference ever. So please reserve 7-9 June 2004 in your >> calendars and keep a lookout for more information in the next few >> weeks. The best deals will be for the early birds." >> >> Volunteers and people having questions and inquiries should send them >> by email to europython@python.org. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EuroPython mailing list >> EuroPython@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > -- > Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) bubblenet.be > > > From lac at strakt.com Thu Nov 6 08:53:04 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Thu Nov 6 08:53:23 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: Message from "Nicolas Chauvat" of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:18:57 +0100." <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> In a message of Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:18:57 +0100, "Nicolas Chauvat" writes: >On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:43:51PM +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > >> site. Apropos the website, is what's at >> >> http://europython-develop.zope.nl/epc >> >> going to become the "offical" web site? What needs to be done before >> that can happen? Or is sticking with the CMS (for want of a better >> word) we have now the safer option? > >I'd suggest we ask for help on the #plone forum and/or mailing-list. We'l >l >probably find there people willing to spend the missing hours that we >other organizers don't have (at least that I don't have) to get it >in good shape. > > >-- >Nicolas Chauvat > >logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances > > >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython I'd rather move the other directtion. The thing that I disliked the most about last year's site was that only a rare few people with Zope chops could go hack on it. The year before at least there was a wiki. Moving to Plone seems to make this problem even worse. I'd like it if this conference could have a website that it was very, very, easy to hack so that people could easily add whatever they like without having to learn a content management system or 3. It is possible for communities to form, self-organising around documents, but only if the people who want to form the communities and sub-groups get to write the documents. Laura From Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr Thu Nov 6 09:21:48 2003 From: Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Thu Nov 6 09:21:54 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:53:04PM +0100, Laura Creighton wrote: > > I'd rather move the other directtion. The thing that I disliked the > ... > communities to form, self-organising around documents, but only > if the people who want to form the communities and sub-groups get > to write the documents. Which is what you get with Plone. It needs set-up, not editing. Wiki is just a less structured and poorer form of content-management. Once set-up, structured content saves hours over unstructured content. But since I do not have time to contribute, I will not try to advocate further. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From dario at ita.chalmers.se Fri Nov 7 04:49:25 2003 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Fri Nov 7 04:49:35 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr> References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <3FAB6AA5.8080609@ita.chalmers.se> Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:53:04PM +0100, Laura Creighton wrote: > >>I'd rather move the other directtion. The thing that I disliked the >>... >>communities to form, self-organising around documents, but only >>if the people who want to form the communities and sub-groups get >>to write the documents. > > > Which is what you get with Plone. It needs set-up, not editing. > Wiki is just a less structured and poorer form of content-management. Once > set-up, structured content saves hours over unstructured content. +1 > But since I do not have time to contribute, I will not try to advocate > further. I'll do some advocating in your place and we'll just have to see what direction this takes... :-) Anyway, I have published everything that is on the site, except the member's pages (I did that accidentally, sorry). I realised that what was visible on the site is not enough, so now anybody interested can take a look - the site as it is to be considered an early proof-of-concept, so: a) everything is changeable b) not everything is entirely well-tought out Wiki's are addable, something I guess will be necessary for track-discussions. I forget who is in charge of the epc site, but can we please get a copy the old europython site in under the epc folder and can we please have a wiki product installed? Thanks, /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. From dario at ita.chalmers.se Fri Nov 7 04:55:08 2003 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Fri Nov 7 04:55:16 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release In-Reply-To: <3FAB6AA5.8080609@ita.chalmers.se> References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr> <3FAB6AA5.8080609@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <3FAB6BFC.7050505@ita.chalmers.se> Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote: > a) everything is changeable > b) not everything is entirely well-tought out oh, and should you wish to be involved, ie with doing something about a)a and b) by all means register and let us know, so we can assign proper priviledges to you /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. From jacob at strakt.com Fri Nov 7 14:06:38 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Fri Nov 7 14:06:44 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Revised press release Message-ID: <200311072006.38768.jacob@strakt.com> Thanks to Xavier for the input. I made some modifications. I now think this is ready for the website and for distribution. Jacob The Europython Team is proud to announce the third Europython Conference, to be held at the Chalmers University of Technology, G?teborg, Sweden on 7-9 June 2004. After two successful years in Charleroi, Belgium, it is time for Europython to change venue. With the experience and routines from the previous conferences it is now possible to raise ambitions. "We will have more venue space at lower cost next year", says Dar?o Lopez-K?sten, who is in charge of venue booking. "This will allow us to have a fourth track as well as holding BOF sessions and private meetings. We will also have space for a small Python exhibition at very low cost for participating companies." "Low cost lodging and new services will be offered to attendees", says Laura Creighton, local organiser. "We have made a block reservation of about 150 beds in good quality 2 and 4 bed rooms that will be available for booking at very low prices. I am also going to work on the catering side. Apart from lunches and coffee, we hope to have a conference dinner next year." "All the track chairs are continuing their work", comments Martijn Faasen, chair of the Python Frameworks track. "This allows us to expand the program with new tracks, since more volunteers are joining in the the planning and organising. We have plans for a short refereed paper track, a social skills track and an expanded business track. We would like to have an education track as well and are looking for someone who wants to chair it." Jacob Hall?n, head organiser adds: "We are already looking forward to June 2004. We think next Europython is going to be a lot of fun. Apart from the conference itself, there will be sprints held both before and after the conference. I am rather certain both Zope and the PyPy project will hold sprints. Other people who want to hold sprints should contact us as soon as possible. For the conference, we hope more people will join us as volunteers to help us repeat and improve on the successes of the past two years. So please reserve 7-9 June 2004 in your calendars and keep a lookout for more information in the next few weeks. The best deals will be for the early birds." Volunteers and people having questions and inquiries should send them by email to europython@python.org. Continuous updates about the conference will be found at http://www.europython.org. From tom at aragne.com Sun Nov 9 04:11:15 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Sun Nov 9 04:03:54 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com><20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr> <3FAB6AA5.8080609@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <005701c3a6a1$70167010$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> > I forget who is in charge of the epc site, but can we please get a > copy > the old europython site in under the epc folder and can we please > have a wiki product installed?? The owners of the server are Amaze, see front page of EuroPython website (sponsors) There are a lot of people who have root login to that website. Please, know that te epc site at the moment is still on a development instance and it needs to be switched when you want www.europython.org to link to the epc plone site. T. > Thanks, > > /dario From tom at aragne.com Sun Nov 9 05:41:32 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Sun Nov 9 05:34:06 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Draft initial press release References: <200311052130.14248.jacob@strakt.com> <2mk76dzmyg.fsf@starship.python.net> <20031106131857.GC15715@logilab.fr> <200311061353.hA6Dr4tA029697@ratthing-b246.strakt.com><20031106142148.GJ15715@logilab.fr><3FAB6AA5.8080609@ita.chalmers.se> <005701c3a6a1$70167010$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Message-ID: <008301c3a6ae$0e756200$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Tom Deprez wrote: >> I forget who is in charge of the epc site, but can we please get a >> copy >> the old europython site in under the epc folder and can we please >> have a wiki product installed?? > > The owners of the server are Amaze, see front page of EuroPython > website (sponsors) > There are a lot of people who have root login to that website. > > Please, know that te epc site at the moment is still on a development > instance and it needs to be switched when you want www.europython.org > to link to the epc plone site. I can ask Amaze to do this, but then we need to be sure that the plone site is ready. T. > > T. > >> Thanks, >> >> /dario > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From jacob at strakt.com Mon Nov 10 14:51:13 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Mon Nov 10 14:51:17 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue Message-ID: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> I have taken some pictures of the venue. They are high resolution, but unfortunately I haven't managed to keep the camera as steady as necessary. However, it should give you some idea of the possibilities. There are 3 lecture halls with 170 person capacity. There are 2 lecture halls with 100 person capacity. There is one lecture hall with unknown capacity, somewhere between 150 and 200. These halls are all on the same level, situated around the central foyer. Upstairs, floors 1-4, from this level, there are 20 rooms with 50 person capacity. These can be rearranged with fewer tables and more seats if necessary. Downstairs from the foyer, there is a cafe. Next to the foyer there is a big atrium. We may be able to use this. The foyer surrounds an open-air yard. The student Union is 2 minutes walk away. I did not manage to get into the big hall there because it was occupied. Conclusion: Our options are more varied than expected and there is enough space for a very large event. We don't have to worry about running out. It should be possible for us to make detailed bookings fairly late, adjusting the amount of space after the number of attendees. Preliminary plans are good for making a budget though. Jacob Hall?n From janko at need-brain.de Mon Nov 10 14:59:36 2003 From: janko at need-brain.de (Janko Hauser) Date: Mon Nov 10 15:01:49 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue In-Reply-To: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <20031110205936.0a80ce33.janko@need-brain.de> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:51:13 +0100 Jacob Hall?n wrote: > I have taken some pictures of the venue. They are high resolution, > but unfortunately I haven't managed to keep the camera as steady as > necessary. However, it should give you some idea of the > possibilities. > Are they posted on the site? Where? __Janko From jacob at strakt.com Mon Nov 10 15:03:25 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Mon Nov 10 15:03:29 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue In-Reply-To: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <200311102103.25664.jacob@strakt.com> Mmm. Forgot to say where the pictures are: http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython On m?ndag 10 november 2003 20.51, Jacob Hall?n wrote: > I have taken some pictures of the venue. They are high resolution, but > unfortunately I haven't managed to keep the camera as steady as necessary. > However, it should give you some idea of the possibilities. > > There are 3 lecture halls with 170 person capacity. > There are 2 lecture halls with 100 person capacity. > There is one lecture hall with unknown capacity, somewhere between 150 and > 200. > These halls are all on the same level, situated around the central foyer. > > Upstairs, floors 1-4, from this level, there are 20 rooms with 50 person > capacity. These can be rearranged with fewer tables and more seats if > necessary. > > Downstairs from the foyer, there is a cafe. > > Next to the foyer there is a big atrium. We may be able to use this. > > The foyer surrounds an open-air yard. > > The student Union is 2 minutes walk away. I did not manage to get into the > big hall there because it was occupied. > > Conclusion: > > Our options are more varied than expected and there is enough space for a > very large event. We don't have to worry about running out. It should be > possible for us to make detailed bookings fairly late, adjusting the amount > of space after the number of attendees. Preliminary plans are good for > making a budget though. > > Jacob Hall?n > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From tom at aragne.com Tue Nov 11 09:16:46 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Tue Nov 11 10:09:14 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> <200311102103.25664.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <006f01c3a85e$73332630$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Jacob, I'm unable to reach that page. Regards, tom. Jacob Hall?n wrote: > Mmm. Forgot to say where the pictures are: > http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython > > On m?ndag 10 november 2003 20.51, Jacob Hall?n wrote: >> I have taken some pictures of the venue. They are high resolution, >> but unfortunately I haven't managed to keep the camera as steady as >> necessary. However, it should give you some idea of the >> possibilities. >> >> There are 3 lecture halls with 170 person capacity. >> There are 2 lecture halls with 100 person capacity. >> There is one lecture hall with unknown capacity, somewhere between >> 150 and 200. >> These halls are all on the same level, situated around the central >> foyer. >> >> Upstairs, floors 1-4, from this level, there are 20 rooms with 50 >> person capacity. These can be rearranged with fewer tables and more >> seats if necessary. >> >> Downstairs from the foyer, there is a cafe. >> >> Next to the foyer there is a big atrium. We may be able to use this. >> >> The foyer surrounds an open-air yard. >> >> The student Union is 2 minutes walk away. I did not manage to get >> into the big hall there because it was occupied. >> >> Conclusion: >> >> Our options are more varied than expected and there is enough space >> for a very large event. We don't have to worry about running out. It >> should be possible for us to make detailed bookings fairly late, >> adjusting the amount of space after the number of attendees. >> Preliminary plans are good for making a budget though. >> >> Jacob Hall?n >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EuroPython mailing list >> EuroPython@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From lac at strakt.com Tue Nov 11 10:25:00 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue Nov 11 10:25:28 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue In-Reply-To: Message from "Tom Deprez" of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:16:46 +0100." <006f01c3a85e$73332630$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> <200311102103.25664.jacob@strakt.com> <006f01c3a85e$73332630$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Message-ID: <200311111525.hABFP0b7010917@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> In a message of Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:16:46 +0100, "Tom Deprez" writes: >Jacob, > >I'm unable to reach that page. > >Regards, >tom. Try http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython/ Laura From tom at aragne.com Tue Nov 11 11:04:59 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Tue Nov 11 11:57:27 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> <200311102103.25664.jacob@strakt.com> <006f01c3a85e$73332630$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> <200311111525.hABFP0b7010917@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <00c101c3a86d$8fb28990$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Okay thanks, If somebody gives me a formatted text around the pictures, then I'll make a page on the website. If not I'll work on it myself when I've some more time. Regards, Tom. Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:16:46 +0100, "Tom Deprez" writes: >> Jacob, >> >> I'm unable to reach that page. >> >> Regards, >> tom. > > Try http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython/ > > Laura From jacob at strakt.com Tue Nov 11 12:00:34 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Tue Nov 11 12:01:03 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue In-Reply-To: <00c101c3a86d$8fb28990$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com> <200311111525.hABFP0b7010917@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <00c101c3a86d$8fb28990$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> Message-ID: <200311111800.35542.jacob@strakt.com> On tisdag 11 november 2003 17.04, Tom Deprez wrote: > Okay thanks, > > If somebody gives me a formatted text around the pictures, then I'll > make a page on the website. If not I'll work on it myself when I've > some more time. I actually plan to go back and make better pictures for the Europython website. I'm not happy with the result. Jacob From tom at aragne.com Tue Nov 11 11:44:04 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Tue Nov 11 12:36:48 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] Pictures of the venue References: <200311102051.13329.jacob@strakt.com><200311111525.hABFP0b7010917@ratthing-b246.strakt.com><00c101c3a86d$8fb28990$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> <200311111800.35542.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <00df01c3a873$0dced4f0$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> okidoki T Jacob Hall?n wrote: > On tisdag 11 november 2003 17.04, Tom Deprez wrote: >> Okay thanks, >> >> If somebody gives me a formatted text around the pictures, then I'll >> make a page on the website. If not I'll work on it myself when I've >> some more time. > > I actually plan to go back and make better pictures for the Europython > website. I'm not happy with the result. > > Jacob > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From lac at strakt.com Wed Nov 12 15:34:09 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Wed Nov 12 15:34:24 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] This just in from PyCon Message-ID: <200311122034.hACKY9iE014498@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> If they are moving towards track chairmen and the like, and want to receive papers the way we do, do we have a paper submission system which they could just have? Or is ours broken in pieces and awaiting reassembly now? Laura ------- Forwarded Message From: "Steve Holden" Subject: RE: [Pycon-organizers] Organizers calendar: first stab Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:19:51 -0500 Message-ID: [David Ascher] > Steve Holden wrote: > > [great start, btw!] Thanks. Better late than never ... > > > 03/11/13 * Registration system opens > > I assume that the registration system has been reviewed & QA'ed? > It has had *some* review, but no formal QA. I would personally be much happier if everyone on this list would run through the process at least once to make sure there are no glitches, and that everything happens as it should. Trevor Toenjes will have to say whether he's happy to have that happen (but if he isn't we shouldn't be announcing it yet ;-) > > 03/11/17 * Submissions system opens > > I would like to be involved in some QA of the submission system before > its opening. I suspect others would want to as well. > I'd like to *have* a submission system. It turns out that nobody has done any work on this :-( I had understood it was going to be part and parcel of the registration system, but Trevor had apparently backed off that part of things when a request for proposals went out on this list. So we are without a system, again, and I'm somewhat miffed about this. The one thing I will *not* be doing is accepting submissions in personal emails - this led to several worthy papers nearly getting completely lost last year, I just get too much mail to track important issues like that via PyCon mail filtering. I'm wondering whether it might be better to determine what tracks we want, appoint track chairs, and have prospective speakers submit to the track chairs? The chairs can always swap papers if they think a submission is cross-track, or in the wrong track. This is the time for those of you who *really* want to help to step up to the plate ... > > 03/11/21 * Announcement of sponsorship opportunities > > We need a sponsorship lead and budgetary goals, IIRC? > Indeed. Would you like to propose action items and dates I can fit in to the calendar? Also I'll be putting out a call for potential sponsors to this list later. It would probably be a good idea to re-publish the calendar each week, so we can see where we're up to ... or even keep a copy on the Wiki? regards - -- Steve Holden +1 703 278 8281 http://www.holdenweb.com/ Improve the Internet http://vancouver-webpages.com/CacheNow/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/ Interview with GvR August 14, 2003 http://www.onlamp.com/python/ _______________________________________________ Pycon-organizers mailing list Pycon-organizers@mail.python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pycon-organizers ------- End of Forwarded Message From Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr Thu Nov 13 02:41:15 2003 From: Nicolas.Chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Thu Nov 13 02:41:23 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] This just in from PyCon In-Reply-To: <200311122034.hACKY9iE014498@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> References: <200311122034.hACKY9iE014498@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <20031113074114.GB10343@logilab.fr> On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:34:09PM +0100, Laura Creighton wrote: > If they are moving towards track chairmen and the like, and > want to receive papers the way we do, do we have a paper submission > system which they could just have? Or is ours broken in pieces and > awaiting reassembly now? In case someone would want to make a submission system for our new plone-based Europython web site, here is a recipe: After installing [plone.org] on top of [zope.org], set up [plone.org/documentation/archetypes/quickref]. Decide on the schema of your talks and/or submission and describe it as in [1] or use a tool to output UML as XMI and get [plone.org/documentation/howto/HowToStartWithArchGenXml] to generate the code for you. Mix the two with an appropriate workflow defined through the "plone_workflow" tool available from the Zope Management Interface and you're done. 1 : cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/archetypes/ArcheRecipes/DemoEvent.py?rev=1.2 Should take one day of work. Hope that helps. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From steve at z3u.com Mon Nov 17 08:35:15 2003 From: steve at z3u.com (Steve Alexander) Date: Mon Nov 17 08:35:19 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] education track at europython Message-ID: <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> Hi, My name is Steve Alexander. Some of you will know me from previous EuroPython conferences, or from my work on Zope. I'm currently working on the SchoolTool project for the Shuttleworth Foundation (http://schooltool.org). As such, I'm very interested in the education track at the next EuroPython. Perhaps I can offer to chair this track, although I'd like to know more about the responsibilities of a track chair before actually volunteering. -- Steve Alexander From lac at strakt.com Mon Nov 17 18:03:35 2003 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Mon Nov 17 18:03:48 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] education track at europython In-Reply-To: Message from Steve Alexander of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:35:15 +0200." <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> References: <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> Message-ID: <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> In a message of Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:35:15 +0200, Steve Alexander writes: >Hi, > >My name is Steve Alexander. Some of you will know me from previous >EuroPython conferences, or from my work on Zope. > >I'm currently working on the SchoolTool project for the Shuttleworth >Foundation (http://schooltool.org). As such, I'm very interested in the >education track at the next EuroPython. Perhaps I can offer to chair >this track, although I'd like to know more about the responsibilities of >a track chair before actually volunteering. > >-- >Steve Alexander > > >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython Hey Great! We are very pleased to have you. I don't think that you will find the chair-track responsibilities all that onerous. Martijn (Faassen), Michael (Hudson) can you clue him in on what it entails? Hmmm. is it getting to the point where we should have an irc meeting to discuss things we want to do? I'm thinking yes ... and all of you? Laura From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Mon Nov 17 22:52:59 2003 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Mon Nov 17 22:52:10 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] education track at europython In-Reply-To: <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> References: <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <20031118035259.M30110@ael.be> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:03:35 +0100, Laura Creighton wrote > In a message of Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:35:15 +0200, Steve Alexander writes: > >Hi, > > > >My name is Steve Alexander. Some of you will know me from previous > >EuroPython conferences, or from my work on Zope. > > > >I'm currently working on the SchoolTool project for the Shuttleworth > >Foundation (http://schooltool.org). As such, I'm very interested in the > >education track at the next EuroPython. Perhaps I can offer to chair > >this track, although I'd like to know more about the responsibilities of > >a track chair before actually volunteering. > Hey Great! We are very pleased to have you. I don't think > that you will find the chair-track responsibilities all that > onerous. Martijn (Faassen), Michael (Hudson) can you clue him in > on what it entails? > > Hmmm. is it getting to the point where we should have an irc meeting > to discuss things we want to do? I'm thinking yes ... and > all of you? > I am ready to help with the education track (not take the lead though) I am organizing the FreeEDem , free software for education developper european meeting in Brussels on February 21 and 22, 2004 (at the same time, also in Brussels, as FOSDEM, to allow the people who come to choose to attend one or the other) Please read http://www.ofset.org/wiki/index.php/FreeEDem2004 I am still looking for speakers and sure, auditors (as well as people interested to help with the organization ;-) Steve, I invite you to come to FreeEDEM as a speaker to present SchoolTool. Could you come ? Thanks, Nicolas From jacob at strakt.com Tue Nov 18 14:20:40 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Tue Nov 18 14:21:01 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] New pictures Message-ID: <200311182020.40843.jacob@strakt.com> I have put up some new pictures of the venue at http://www.strakt.com/ europython/ I have made some calculations on the number of seats in each room. This is what labels the pictures. There is also a series of photographs of a schematic plan of the place. The room sizes are as follows: VR 180 VM 144 VA 136 VB 136 VF ~90 VK 70 VG Unknown (likely to be ~70) VH Unknown (likely to be ~70) The 50-seat rooms are located upstairs where it says VV and V?. Hiss = elevator. The cafe is downstairs where it says "A-fiket". V-g?rden = the yard The atrium is off to the left on the plan. The entrance is below the red dot. I also managed to get some quick pictures of the big hall in the student union. There was a conference in action in there. (I did a lot of experiments with pictures in one room. You can probably skip most of them.) Cheers Jacob From steve at z3u.com Tue Nov 18 14:53:47 2003 From: steve at z3u.com (Steve Alexander) Date: Tue Nov 18 14:53:54 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] education track at europython In-Reply-To: <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> References: <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <3FBA78CB.8000407@z3u.com> > Hey Great! We are very pleased to have you. I don't think > that you will find the chair-track responsibilities all that > onerous. Martijn (Faassen), Michael (Hudson) can you clue him in > on what it entails? I had a brief chat to Marijn on irc. I think I can take the heat :-) I volunteer to chair the education track. -- Steve Alexander From jacob at strakt.com Tue Nov 18 14:59:15 2003 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Tue Nov 18 14:59:49 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] New pictures In-Reply-To: <200311182020.40843.jacob@strakt.com> References: <200311182020.40843.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <200311182059.15730.jacob@strakt.com> On tisdag 18 november 2003 20.20, Jacob Hall?n wrote: > I have put up some new pictures of the venue at http://www.strakt.com/ > europython/ Mmm. I need to check my URL's better. This is the correct one: http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython/ From tom at aragne.com Wed Nov 19 14:31:44 2003 From: tom at aragne.com (Tom Deprez) Date: Wed Nov 19 14:24:18 2003 Subject: [EuroPython] education track at europython References: <3FB8CE93.40306@z3u.com> <200311172303.hAHN3ZiV027990@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> Message-ID: <017801c3aed3$cf4c9160$897ba8c0@skullsplitter> > Hmmm. is it getting to the point where we should have an irc meeting > to discuss things we want to do? I'm thinking yes ... and > all of you? Would be a good idea. Regards, Tom. From dario at ita.chalmers.se Thu Nov 27 02:33:49 2003 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Thu Nov 27 02:34:07 2003 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython] In-Reply-To: <200311262236.50716.batlogg@solution2u.net> References: <200311262236.50716.batlogg@solution2u.net> Message-ID: <3FC5A8DD.1000507@ita.chalmers.se> Jodok Batlogg wrote: > hi dario, > > i'm very interested in an educational track on europython. i'd really > appreciate if you can keep me updated :) > > i'll keep you updated on the university membership in eduplone :) > > thanks > > jodok Great! :-) Steve Alexander just stepped up as official educational track chair. I'm forwarding this message to him, so you can get in touch with each other. Sincerely, /dario From steve at z3u.com Thu Nov 27 05:11:38 2003 From: steve at z3u.com (Steve Alexander) Date: Thu Nov 27 05:11:44 2003 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython] In-Reply-To: <3FC5A8DD.1000507@ita.chalmers.se> References: <200311262236.50716.batlogg@solution2u.net> <3FC5A8DD.1000507@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <3FC5CDDA.4020503@z3u.com> Dario wrote: > Steve Alexander just stepped up as official educational track chair. I'm > forwarding this message to him, so you can get in touch with each other. Hi Jodok! Can you tell me something about who you are, and what you'd be interested in doing on the education track? To the rest of the europython list: should these introductions and track-specific discussions take place on-list or off-list? -- Steve Alexander From gotcha at bubblenet.be Thu Nov 27 06:06:38 2003 From: gotcha at bubblenet.be (Godefroid Chapelle) Date: Thu Nov 27 06:06:03 2003 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython] In-Reply-To: <3FC5CDDA.4020503@z3u.com> References: <200311262236.50716.batlogg@solution2u.net> <3FC5A8DD.1000507@ita.chalmers.se> <3FC5CDDA.4020503@z3u.com> Message-ID: <3FC5DABE.3060803@bubblenet.be> > > Hi Jodok! > > Can you tell me something about who you are, and what you'd be > interested in doing on the education track? > > > To the rest of the europython list: should these introductions and > track-specific discussions take place on-list or off-list? > on-list is good to me , chances for people to know whois behind the europython thing ! -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be From batlogg at solution2u.net Thu Nov 27 13:21:54 2003 From: batlogg at solution2u.net (Jodok Batlogg) Date: Thu Nov 27 13:22:02 2003 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython] In-Reply-To: <3FC5CDDA.4020503@z3u.com> References: <200311262236.50716.batlogg@solution2u.net> <3FC5A8DD.1000507@ita.chalmers.se> <3FC5CDDA.4020503@z3u.com> Message-ID: <3FC640C2.8030002@solution2u.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi steve, Steve Alexander wrote: | Dario wrote: | |> Steve Alexander just stepped up as official educational track |> chair. I'm forwarding this message to him, so you can get in |> touch with each other. | | | Hi Jodok! | | Can you tell me something about who you are, and what you'd be | interested in doing on the education track? yes, i'm jodok batlogg, ceo of the solution2u.net gmbh in austria. we are a small company working mainly with plone. together with godefroid chapelle (the list should know him :)) i coordinate the i18n activities in the plone project. what are my ambitions with e-learning? - - my first e-learning project started 2000, with the european project candle (www.candle.eu.org. i coordinated/wrote the proposal and managed the project at the beginning) - - after founding my own company in 2001 and doing some java stuff we switched to zope/plone in february 2003. - - since a few weeks (or already month?) i'm coordinating the eduplone consortium. our goal is to bring plone, didactics and standardization together. what is eduplone? - - eduplone is an open source learning content management system build on top of the web application framework ZOPE and the CMS Plone. what does eduplone provide? o concepts: - - we've got a strong background in the educational area (webdidactis of prof. meder) - - standardization: georg pleger is member of the relevant standardisation commitees and brings a lot of knowledge into the team - - open source / open content: we are trying to find the right balance between os and business o products - - IMS-Content-Package Export The IMS Content Packaging specification makes it possible to exchange created courses and learning material between different systems. The product IMSCPTypes provides an IMS-conform export for Plone-content. It's a complete implementation of the specification "IMS-Content-Packaging". - - Interactive Learning-Sequences with IMS-Learning Design export The Product LearningSequence provides an simple and efficient way to enable interaction between tutor and student in the process of online-learning. - - eduploneContentTypes These types are an archetypes based implementation for web-didactical concepts by Prof. Norbert Meder and the eduplone consortium. o services - - training/coaching - - consulting (content migration, strategic decisions,...) - - production of learning material - - development which people are behind eduplone? o Austria - - OpenSource.Agentur - Georg Pleger - - solution2u.net GmbH - Jodok Batlogg (executive) o Germany - - BlueDynamics GmbH - Robert Boulanger - - JANUS software Projekte GmbH - Hannes Meder - - jens quadrat GbR - Jens Klein - - tomcom GmbH - Thomas Zeleny o Netherlands - - Zopeworks NL - Jean-Paul Ladage o Norway - - Plone Solutions AS - Alexander Limi - --------------------- and finally :) what are my ambitions for europython? - - i (and the eduplone team) would like to talk about the stuff above :). not only about eduplone, but about didactics, standards,... thanks for your attention jodok | | | To the rest of the europython list: should these introductions and | track-specific discussions take place on-list or off-list? | | -- Steve Alexander | - -- jodok batlogg solution2u.net gmbh ? hof 4 ? a-6861 alberschwende fon +43 5579 85777-65 ? fax -77 ? mobil +43 699 11841546 http://solution2u.net/ ? batlogg@solution2u.net have a nice day -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/xkDBXCO1zg5XhosRAnUNAJ4m6kDNBMkeFKMDN+7IGerBdczd2gCfXiIF EpfUFKgWzT/J3wwvvMRS9yM= =TQ5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----