[Edu-sig] using Python as a calculator

Helene Martin lognaturel at gmail.com
Sat Apr 10 18:23:21 CEST 2010


I humbly disagree that this is the right place to start.  I teach
students with diverse backgrounds -- some extremely bright and others
really behind in school and using Python as a calculator is one thing
they would all agree is terrifically boring and not so compelling.
How many students have ever said "man, I really wish I had a trig
table right now?"

I agree that one way to sell programming is to incorporate it into
math courses and maybe that kind of start is more appropriate there.

It's not like I start with fireworks and fanfare but I'm thrilled to
see Turtle be fun and compelling for students of all levels.  Most of
them discover Python can do math when they try to see whether they
could pass in a scaling parameter and guess that multiplication is
probably an asterisk.  I mention order of operation and integer
division and we move on.

I enjoy reading this list and learn many interesting tidbits from it
but, as I think I've mentioned before, I often find myself chuckling a
bit.  A lot of what is said on here is so incredibly esoteric and far
from my students' realities!

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:43 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Guido was wise to start his tutorial by showing how we
> might use Python as a calculator.
>
> We might assume many students in this day and age are quite
> familiar with this device, and even if they're not, the text might
> project one, show a picture on the screen, if what these things
> used to look like (still do).
>
> However, one thing calculators lack over the old wood pulp
> textbooks are trig tables with multiple rows showing a lot of
> data at the same time.  Their small "chat window" does not
> permit much data to be seen at one time.
>
> Back in the day, a student could run her finger down the
> rows, as the number of angular degrees increase from
> 0 to 60 and onward to 90, perhaps all the way around to
> 360.
>
> Going across the row, one would have sine and cosine,
> perhaps tangent.  Having all the data visible at once, or spread
> across a few pages, inspired some insights and understanding,
> as one could see the trends in the numbers, plus these
> "click stop" rows where the numbers would suddenly be
> super easy, like 1/2 and 1/2 for both sine and cosine.
>
> Calculators don't give us that kind of output, but earlier office
> computing machines did have paper i/o, called a tape, usually
> a scroll mounted on a spool and fed through a small printer.
>
> As one added numbers, one printed to tape, perhaps a running
> total.  The tape itself was a valuable item (especially once it
> had the data on it).
>
> Large computers came with line printers that hit on continuous
> feed paper with holes along both sides, often with green and
> white stripes.  I will not try to recapitulate the long history
> of printing devices, except to point out that computers
> inherited them while slide rules and calculators did not.
>
> The equivalent in Python is stdout and/or some file in storage,
> on the hard drive or memory stick.  The program output
> shown below would be an example of this kind of i/o.
>
> Notice that unless a file name is given (optional), the data
> is to stdout.
>
> I'm going to do a full 90 degrees, just to remind myself of
> the patterns students got in the old days, before trig tables
> were replaced with calculators, much as dial watches were
> replaced with digital ones (not necessarily a smart move
> in all cases).
>
>>>> imp.reload(newprint)
> <module 'newprint' from 'C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\newprint.py'>
>>>> newprint.trigtable(range(91), "trigtable.txt")
>
> The contents of trigtable.txt:
>
>    0      1.000000000    0.000000000    0.000000e+00
>    1      0.999847695    0.017452406    1.745506e-02
>    2      0.999390827    0.034899497    3.492077e-02
>    3      0.998629535    0.052335956    5.240778e-02
>    4      0.997564050    0.069756474    6.992681e-02
>    5      0.996194698    0.087155743    8.748866e-02
>    6      0.994521895    0.104528463    1.051042e-01
>    7      0.992546152    0.121869343    1.227846e-01
>    8      0.990268069    0.139173101    1.405408e-01
>    9      0.987688341    0.156434465    1.583844e-01
>   10      0.984807753    0.173648178    1.763270e-01
>   11      0.981627183    0.190808995    1.943803e-01
>   12      0.978147601    0.207911691    2.125566e-01
>   13      0.974370065    0.224951054    2.308682e-01
>   14      0.970295726    0.241921896    2.493280e-01
>   15      0.965925826    0.258819045    2.679492e-01
>   16      0.961261696    0.275637356    2.867454e-01
>   17      0.956304756    0.292371705    3.057307e-01
>   18      0.951056516    0.309016994    3.249197e-01
>   19      0.945518576    0.325568154    3.443276e-01
>   20      0.939692621    0.342020143    3.639702e-01
>   21      0.933580426    0.358367950    3.838640e-01
>   22      0.927183855    0.374606593    4.040262e-01
>   23      0.920504853    0.390731128    4.244748e-01
>   24      0.913545458    0.406736643    4.452287e-01
>   25      0.906307787    0.422618262    4.663077e-01
>   26      0.898794046    0.438371147    4.877326e-01
>   27      0.891006524    0.453990500    5.095254e-01
>   28      0.882947593    0.469471563    5.317094e-01
>   29      0.874619707    0.484809620    5.543091e-01
>   30      0.866025404    0.500000000    5.773503e-01
>   31      0.857167301    0.515038075    6.008606e-01
>   32      0.848048096    0.529919264    6.248694e-01
>   33      0.838670568    0.544639035    6.494076e-01
>   34      0.829037573    0.559192903    6.745085e-01
>   35      0.819152044    0.573576436    7.002075e-01
>   36      0.809016994    0.587785252    7.265425e-01
>   37      0.798635510    0.601815023    7.535541e-01
>   38      0.788010754    0.615661475    7.812856e-01
>   39      0.777145961    0.629320391    8.097840e-01
>   40      0.766044443    0.642787610    8.390996e-01
>   41      0.754709580    0.656059029    8.692867e-01
>   42      0.743144825    0.669130606    9.004040e-01
>   43      0.731353702    0.681998360    9.325151e-01
>   44      0.719339800    0.694658370    9.656888e-01
>   45      0.707106781    0.707106781    1.000000e+00
>   46      0.694658370    0.719339800    1.035530e+00
>   47      0.681998360    0.731353702    1.072369e+00
>   48      0.669130606    0.743144825    1.110613e+00
>   49      0.656059029    0.754709580    1.150368e+00
>   50      0.642787610    0.766044443    1.191754e+00
>   51      0.629320391    0.777145961    1.234897e+00
>   52      0.615661475    0.788010754    1.279942e+00
>   53      0.601815023    0.798635510    1.327045e+00
>   54      0.587785252    0.809016994    1.376382e+00
>   55      0.573576436    0.819152044    1.428148e+00
>   56      0.559192903    0.829037573    1.482561e+00
>   57      0.544639035    0.838670568    1.539865e+00
>   58      0.529919264    0.848048096    1.600335e+00
>   59      0.515038075    0.857167301    1.664279e+00
>   60      0.500000000    0.866025404    1.732051e+00
>   61      0.484809620    0.874619707    1.804048e+00
>   62      0.469471563    0.882947593    1.880726e+00
>   63      0.453990500    0.891006524    1.962611e+00
>   64      0.438371147    0.898794046    2.050304e+00
>   65      0.422618262    0.906307787    2.144507e+00
>   66      0.406736643    0.913545458    2.246037e+00
>   67      0.390731128    0.920504853    2.355852e+00
>   68      0.374606593    0.927183855    2.475087e+00
>   69      0.358367950    0.933580426    2.605089e+00
>   70      0.342020143    0.939692621    2.747477e+00
>   71      0.325568154    0.945518576    2.904211e+00
>   72      0.309016994    0.951056516    3.077684e+00
>   73      0.292371705    0.956304756    3.270853e+00
>   74      0.275637356    0.961261696    3.487414e+00
>   75      0.258819045    0.965925826    3.732051e+00
>   76      0.241921896    0.970295726    4.010781e+00
>   77      0.224951054    0.974370065    4.331476e+00
>   78      0.207911691    0.978147601    4.704630e+00
>   79      0.190808995    0.981627183    5.144554e+00
>   80      0.173648178    0.984807753    5.671282e+00
>   81      0.156434465    0.987688341    6.313752e+00
>   82      0.139173101    0.990268069    7.115370e+00
>   83      0.121869343    0.992546152    8.144346e+00
>   84      0.104528463    0.994521895    9.514364e+00
>   85      0.087155743    0.996194698    1.143005e+01
>   86      0.069756474    0.997564050    1.430067e+01
>   87      0.052335956    0.998629535    1.908114e+01
>   88      0.034899497    0.999390827    2.863625e+01
>   89      0.017452406    0.999847695    5.728996e+01
>   90      0.000000000    1.000000000    1.633124e+16
>
> Here's the print function I used to generate the above.
>
>                print("{0:>5g}      {1:.9f}    {2:.9f}    {3:e}".format(
>                            row,        cos(theta), sin(theta),tan(theta)),
>                      end="\n", file= thefile)
>
> My module starts with:
>
> from __future__ import printfunction
>
> which is why I get to use this in 2.6
>
> So why use Python as a calculator again?  Because it's more like
> an old office machine with a tape, and that restores some of what
> was lost when lookup tables went out of style.  I should do log10
> next, using range with a step or something....  Also, the trig tape
> should probably be 0-360 but I didn't want to waste paper. :)
>
> Kirby
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