From toms.baugis at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 12:00:54 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:00:54 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks, venues and the meetup page! Message-ID: Hello pythonistas, Woosh! Are you pumped for the autumn?! I sure am and I hope we get to talk some quality python soon as well! First - if you haven't already, please check out the python Edinburgh meetup page and please, pretty pretty pretty please - sign up! http://www.meetup.com/Python-Edinburgh/ There are 15 people already in the meetup and hopefully quite a few of which you haven't met yet! First i thought to write one long email, but i'm afraid that it will dilute the points i'm trying to make, so apologies in advance and expect another 2 emails shortly: one about venues and another about the talks. Toms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 12:06:14 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:06:14 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Edinburgh is looking for venues! Message-ID: For the talks to happen we need a room that would fit up to 30 people and a projector. Nothing fancy. The time for the meetup start could be adjusted to the venue, but ideally it would start somewhere between 6:30-7:30 pm and would go for 60-90 minutes. After which we would vacate the premises in an orderly fashion. This is a great opportunity to: 1. show support to the community that has brought to you the very language your business is built on! 2. make your name heard 3. recruit talent We are not looking for a permanent location - a single time hosting would be quite alright - so if your company does have an office - maybe you could host us? In exchange you will be given time to introduce the community with who you are and what you do, and talk about all the python related awesome you have on place. Hope to hear from any of you with proposals - please write me privately at toms.baugis at gmail.com Toms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 12:12:11 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:12:11 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! Message-ID: Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out * John - interprocess communication * Alistair - conda * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib * adding autocomplete to your application in linux * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 * automating deployment with fab * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests What's your stack like? What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! Toms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk Tue Sep 2 17:58:34 2014 From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:58:34 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everybody, In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. I think the options are: * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. --Mark On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well > as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were > also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as > their first programming language! > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - > there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel > for talks for a decade :) > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in > talks as the first part of the meetup. > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is > too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so > for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to > what kind of talk could you give: > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple > and when to pick list? > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make > managing python dependencies a breeze > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there > are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions > beyond what any of us could imagine. > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you > give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it > has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > * John - interprocess communication > * Alistair - conda > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy > Go compares to python > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still > very much alive > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it > all began (some ruby might be involved) > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be > willing to present: > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > * automating deployment with fab > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > What's your stack like? > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use > it? > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesdoig at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:05:21 2014 From: jamesdoig at gmail.com (James Doig) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:05:21 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I vote: Keep pub meetup as is and run talks separately on a different day. On 2 September 2014 16:58, Mark Smith wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that > we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. > Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can > anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's > office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > >> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> >> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >> python as their first programming language! >> Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >> for talks for a decade :) >> >> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >> talks as the first part of the meetup. >> Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> >> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >> what kind of talk could you give: >> >> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >> tuple and when to pick list? >> * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >> managing python dependencies a breeze >> * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> >> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there >> are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >> beyond what any of us could imagine. >> >> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >> results: >> >> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> * John - interprocess communication >> * Alistair - conda >> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >> buzzy Go compares to python >> * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >> very much alive >> * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it >> all began (some ruby might be involved) >> >> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >> willing to present: >> * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> * automating deployment with fab >> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> >> >> What's your stack like? >> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >> is? >> What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use >> it? >> >> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> >> Toms >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_proud at hotmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:12:28 2014 From: p_proud at hotmail.com (Peter Proud) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:12:28 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, if you ever want to use my office in Waverley gate, you are more than welcome. I will supply beer and pizza.... PP Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Sep 2014, at 16:59, "Mark Smith" wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > >> On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> >> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! >> Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) >> >> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. >> Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> >> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: >> >> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? >> * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze >> * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> >> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. >> >> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: >> >> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> * John - interprocess communication >> * Alistair - conda >> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python >> * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive >> * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) >> >> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: >> * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> * automating deployment with fab >> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> >> >> What's your stack like? >> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? >> What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? >> >> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> >> Toms >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh From rebkwok at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:13:24 2014 From: rebkwok at gmail.com (Becky Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:13:24 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. Becky On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that > we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. > Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can > anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's > office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > >> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> >> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >> python as their first programming language! >> Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >> for talks for a decade :) >> >> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >> talks as the first part of the meetup. >> Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> >> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >> what kind of talk could you give: >> >> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >> tuple and when to pick list? >> * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >> managing python dependencies a breeze >> * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> >> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there >> are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >> beyond what any of us could imagine. >> >> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >> results: >> >> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> * John - interprocess communication >> * Alistair - conda >> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >> buzzy Go compares to python >> * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >> very much alive >> * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it >> all began (some ruby might be involved) >> >> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >> willing to present: >> * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> * automating deployment with fab >> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> >> >> What's your stack like? >> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >> is? >> What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use >> it? >> >> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> >> Toms >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at sneeu.com Tue Sep 2 18:17:07 2014 From: john at sneeu.com (John Sutherland) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:17:07 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. John. -- http://sneeu.com/ On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. > > Becky > > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > * John - interprocess communication > * Alistair - conda > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > * automating deployment with fab > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > What's your stack like? > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 2 Sep 2014 17:17, "John Sutherland" wrote: > +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. > > John. > > > -- > http://sneeu.com/ > > On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: > > > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less formal > than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, leave pub > meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. > > > > Becky > > > > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" > wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that > we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. > Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can > anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > > > I think the options are: > > > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different > day. > > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's > office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > > > --Mark > > > > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as > well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there > were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning > python as their first programming language! > > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - > there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel > for talks for a decade :) > > > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in > talks as the first part of the meetup. > > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic > is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so > for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to > what kind of talk could you give: > > > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick > tuple and when to pick list? > > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make > managing python dependencies a breeze > > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and > there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions > beyond what any of us could imagine. > > > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could > you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of > results: > > > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it > has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > > * John - interprocess communication > > * Alistair - conda > > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new > buzzy Go compares to python > > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still > very much alive > > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it > all began (some ruby might be involved) > > > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be > willing to present: > > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > > * automating deployment with fab > > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > > > > What's your stack like? > > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework > is? > > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use > it? > > > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > > > Toms > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petrich at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:06:56 2014 From: petrich at gmail.com (Adriano Petrich) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:06:56 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I vote for different events as well. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM, James Doig wrote: > I vote: Keep pub meetup as is and run talks separately on a different day. > > > On 2 September 2014 16:58, Mark Smith > wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that >> we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. >> Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can >> anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. >> >> I think the options are: >> >> * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different >> day. >> * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's >> office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub >> * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and >> (possibly free) beer and pizza. >> >> If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. >> >> --Mark >> >> >> On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >> >>> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >>> >>> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >>> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >>> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >>> python as their first programming language! >>> Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >>> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >>> for talks for a decade :) >>> >>> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >>> talks as the first part of the meetup. >>> Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >>> Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >>> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >>> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >>> >>> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >>> what kind of talk could you give: >>> >>> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >>> tuple and when to pick list? >>> * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >>> * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >>> * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >>> managing python dependencies a breeze >>> * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >>> >>> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >>> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >>> beyond what any of us could imagine. >>> >>> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >>> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >>> results: >>> >>> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >>> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >>> * John - interprocess communication >>> * Alistair - conda >>> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >>> buzzy Go compares to python >>> * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >>> very much alive >>> * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it >>> all began (some ruby might be involved) >>> >>> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >>> willing to present: >>> * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >>> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >>> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >>> * automating deployment with fab >>> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >>> >>> >>> What's your stack like? >>> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >>> is? >>> What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use >>> it? >>> >>> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >>> >>> Toms >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh mailing list >>> Edinburgh at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -- what does your robot do, sam it collects data about the surrounding environment, then discards it and drives into walls --http://bash.org/?240849 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom.dalton at fanduel.com Tue Sep 2 18:19:48 2014 From: tom.dalton at fanduel.com (Tom Dalton) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:19:48 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> References: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> Message-ID: I like options 1 and 2 - Talks completely separate, or talks in a suitable venue followed by decamp to pub. On 2 September 2014 17:17, John Sutherland wrote: > +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. > > John. > > > -- > http://sneeu.com/ > > On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: > > > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less formal > than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, leave pub > meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. > > > > Becky > > > > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" > wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that > we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. > Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can > anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > > > I think the options are: > > > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different > day. > > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's > office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > > > --Mark > > > > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as > well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there > were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning > python as their first programming language! > > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - > there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel > for talks for a decade :) > > > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in > talks as the first part of the meetup. > > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic > is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so > for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to > what kind of talk could you give: > > > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick > tuple and when to pick list? > > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make > managing python dependencies a breeze > > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and > there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions > beyond what any of us could imagine. > > > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could > you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of > results: > > > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it > has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > > * John - interprocess communication > > * Alistair - conda > > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new > buzzy Go compares to python > > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still > very much alive > > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it > all began (some ruby might be involved) > > > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be > willing to present: > > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > > * automating deployment with fab > > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > > > > What's your stack like? > > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework > is? > > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use > it? > > > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > > > Toms > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:24:12 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:24:12 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> Message-ID: I don't mind either way, my only consideration would be that this then doubles the number of events, and that's exactly what i'd like to avoid, in order to not split up the community. In my opinion, having talks as a starter for conversation evens out the field for the beginners and newcomers as they can pick , is more gender neutral. If the events would to be split up, the talks night would be followed up by beers anyway. The matter of splitting or merging the events however is the least of concerns, i declare this a beautiful bikeshed[1]. So - hey - any of the voters would be interested in giving talks? I'd really love to hear from you! Toms [1] http://bikeshed.com/ On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Tom Dalton wrote: > I like options 1 and 2 - Talks completely separate, or talks in a suitable > venue followed by decamp to pub. > > > On 2 September 2014 17:17, John Sutherland wrote: > >> +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. >> >> John. >> >> >> -- >> http://sneeu.com/ >> >> On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: >> >> > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less >> formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, >> leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. >> > >> > Becky >> > >> > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" >> wrote: >> > Hi everybody, >> > >> > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that >> we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. >> Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can >> anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. >> > >> > I think the options are: >> > >> > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different >> day. >> > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's >> office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub >> > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and >> (possibly free) beer and pizza. >> > >> > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. >> > >> > --Mark >> > >> > >> > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >> > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> > >> > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >> python as their first programming language! >> > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >> for talks for a decade :) >> > >> > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >> talks as the first part of the meetup. >> > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> > >> > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >> what kind of talk could you give: >> > >> > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >> tuple and when to pick list? >> > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >> managing python dependencies a breeze >> > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> > >> > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >> beyond what any of us could imagine. >> > >> > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >> results: >> > >> > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> > * John - interprocess communication >> > * Alistair - conda >> > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >> buzzy Go compares to python >> > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >> very much alive >> > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where >> it all began (some ruby might be involved) >> > >> > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >> willing to present: >> > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> > * automating deployment with fab >> > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> > >> > >> > What's your stack like? >> > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >> is? >> > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to >> use it? >> > >> > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> > >> > Toms >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From litt.fire.sa at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 18:28:31 2014 From: litt.fire.sa at gmail.com (Andre Engelbrecht) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:28:31 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> Message-ID: I like option one, keep meetups as they are, and organise separate talks. Worked nicely in the past :) Andre Engelbrecht Web Developer/Designer http://andre.engelbrechtonline.net http://www.tehnode.co.uk Too brief? Here's why! http://emailcharter.org On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Tom Dalton wrote: > I like options 1 and 2 - Talks completely separate, or talks in a suitable > venue followed by decamp to pub. > > > On 2 September 2014 17:17, John Sutherland wrote: > >> +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. >> >> John. >> >> >> -- >> http://sneeu.com/ >> >> On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: >> >> > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less >> formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, >> leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. >> > >> > Becky >> > >> > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" >> wrote: >> > Hi everybody, >> > >> > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that >> we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. >> Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can >> anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. >> > >> > I think the options are: >> > >> > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different >> day. >> > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's >> office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub >> > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and >> (possibly free) beer and pizza. >> > >> > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. >> > >> > --Mark >> > >> > >> > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >> > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> > >> > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >> python as their first programming language! >> > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >> for talks for a decade :) >> > >> > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >> talks as the first part of the meetup. >> > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> > >> > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >> what kind of talk could you give: >> > >> > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >> tuple and when to pick list? >> > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >> managing python dependencies a breeze >> > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> > >> > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >> beyond what any of us could imagine. >> > >> > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >> results: >> > >> > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> > * John - interprocess communication >> > * Alistair - conda >> > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >> buzzy Go compares to python >> > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >> very much alive >> > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where >> it all began (some ruby might be involved) >> > >> > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >> willing to present: >> > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> > * automating deployment with fab >> > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> > >> > >> > What's your stack like? >> > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >> is? >> > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to >> use it? >> > >> > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> > >> > Toms >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Edinburgh mailing list >> > Edinburgh at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgm at agamik.co.uk Tue Sep 2 18:35:57 2014 From: dgm at agamik.co.uk (dgm) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:35:57 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> Message-ID: It would appear to me you are trying to double the number of events by running a separate Python group from the one Mark has managed to run every month for several years. Just because you can create a group on Meetup doesn't mean that all other Python get togethers suddenly become redundant. It appears to me that you have turned up in Edinburgh, decided it needs a Python group which you run, rather than the successful group being organised by someone else. Did you even consider trying the group out a few times to see if it needed improving Or is being self aggrandising and status seeking your normal mode of operation? On 2 September 2014 17:24, Toms wrote: > I don't mind either way, my only consideration would be that this then > doubles the number of events, and that's exactly what i'd like to avoid, in > order to not split up the community. > > In my opinion, having talks as a starter for conversation evens out the > field for the beginners and newcomers as they can pick , is more gender > neutral. > > If the events would to be split up, the talks night would be followed up > by beers anyway. > > The matter of splitting or merging the events however is the least of > concerns, i declare this a beautiful bikeshed[1]. > > So - hey - any of the voters would be interested in giving talks? I'd > really love to hear from you! > > Toms > > > > [1] http://bikeshed.com/ > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Tom Dalton wrote: > >> I like options 1 and 2 - Talks completely separate, or talks in a >> suitable venue followed by decamp to pub. >> >> >> On 2 September 2014 17:17, John Sutherland wrote: >> >>> +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. >>> >>> John. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://sneeu.com/ >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: >>> >>> > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less >>> formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, >>> leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. >>> > >>> > Becky >>> > >>> > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" >>> wrote: >>> > Hi everybody, >>> > >>> > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling >>> that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks >>> separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main >>> function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their >>> preference. >>> > >>> > I think the options are: >>> > >>> > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different >>> day. >>> > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python >>> shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub >>> > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and >>> (possibly free) beer and pizza. >>> > >>> > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post >>> them. >>> > >>> > --Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >>> > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >>> > >>> > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >>> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >>> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >>> python as their first programming language! >>> > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >>> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >>> for talks for a decade :) >>> > >>> > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >>> talks as the first part of the meetup. >>> > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >>> > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no >>> topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the >>> beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >>> > >>> > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >>> what kind of talk could you give: >>> > >>> > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >>> tuple and when to pick list? >>> > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >>> > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >>> > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >>> managing python dependencies a breeze >>> > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >>> > >>> > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >>> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >>> beyond what any of us could imagine. >>> > >>> > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >>> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >>> results: >>> > >>> > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and >>> it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >>> > * John - interprocess communication >>> > * Alistair - conda >>> > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >>> buzzy Go compares to python >>> > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >>> very much alive >>> > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where >>> it all began (some ruby might be involved) >>> > >>> > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >>> willing to present: >>> > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >>> > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >>> > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >>> > * automating deployment with fab >>> > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >>> > >>> > >>> > What's your stack like? >>> > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >>> is? >>> > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to >>> use it? >>> > >>> > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >>> > >>> > Toms >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh mailing list >>> Edinburgh at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk Tue Sep 2 18:45:20 2014 From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:45:20 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <535B505B-759C-4FEF-A238-A867F277525A@sneeu.com> Message-ID: I did ask Toms if he would like to organise the talks, and I think he's doing a great job - just slightly faster than the usual pace of the group. I'm relatively ambivalent about the meetup.com page, and as long as it makes it clear that the mailing list is the definitive source of information, I'm fine with it. I don't think anyone's trying to fork the group - let's try to keep this in perspective. --Mark On 2 September 2014 17:35, dgm wrote: > It would appear to me you are trying to double the number of events by > running a separate Python group from the one Mark has managed to run every > month for several years. Just because you can create a group on Meetup > doesn't mean that all other Python get togethers suddenly become redundant. > It appears to me that you have turned up in Edinburgh, decided it needs a > Python group which you run, rather than the successful group being > organised by someone else. > > Did you even consider trying the group out a few times to see if it needed > improving Or is being self aggrandising and status seeking your normal mode > of operation? > > > On 2 September 2014 17:24, Toms wrote: > >> I don't mind either way, my only consideration would be that this then >> doubles the number of events, and that's exactly what i'd like to avoid, in >> order to not split up the community. >> >> In my opinion, having talks as a starter for conversation evens out the >> field for the beginners and newcomers as they can pick , is more gender >> neutral. >> >> If the events would to be split up, the talks night would be followed up >> by beers anyway. >> >> The matter of splitting or merging the events however is the least of >> concerns, i declare this a beautiful bikeshed[1]. >> >> So - hey - any of the voters would be interested in giving talks? I'd >> really love to hear from you! >> >> Toms >> >> >> >> [1] http://bikeshed.com/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Tom Dalton >> wrote: >> >>> I like options 1 and 2 - Talks completely separate, or talks in a >>> suitable venue followed by decamp to pub. >>> >>> >>> On 2 September 2014 17:17, John Sutherland wrote: >>> >>>> +1 for option one: separate meet?up/talks. >>>> >>>> John. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://sneeu.com/ >>>> >>>> On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:13, Becky Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> > I like the idea of talks, but the pub meet up is popular and less >>>> formal than talks in a talk-suitable venue; I vote for the first option, >>>> leave pub meet up as it is, have talks as a separate set of events. >>>> > >>>> > Becky >>>> > >>>> > On 2 Sep 2014 16:59, "Mark Smith" >>>> wrote: >>>> > Hi everybody, >>>> > >>>> > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling >>>> that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks >>>> separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main >>>> function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their >>>> preference. >>>> > >>>> > I think the options are: >>>> > >>>> > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a >>>> different day. >>>> > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python >>>> shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub >>>> > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk >>>> and (possibly free) beer and pizza. >>>> > >>>> > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post >>>> them. >>>> > >>>> > --Mark >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >>>> > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >>>> > >>>> > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >>>> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >>>> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >>>> python as their first programming language! >>>> > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >>>> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >>>> for talks for a decade :) >>>> > >>>> > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending >>>> in talks as the first part of the meetup. >>>> > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >>>> > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no >>>> topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the >>>> beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >>>> > >>>> > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as >>>> to what kind of talk could you give: >>>> > >>>> > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >>>> tuple and when to pick list? >>>> > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >>>> > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >>>> > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >>>> managing python dependencies a breeze >>>> > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >>>> > >>>> > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >>>> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >>>> beyond what any of us could imagine. >>>> > >>>> > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk >>>> could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >>>> results: >>>> > >>>> > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and >>>> it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >>>> > * John - interprocess communication >>>> > * Alistair - conda >>>> > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >>>> buzzy Go compares to python >>>> > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is >>>> still very much alive >>>> > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where >>>> it all began (some ruby might be involved) >>>> > >>>> > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >>>> willing to present: >>>> > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >>>> > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >>>> > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >>>> > * automating deployment with fab >>>> > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > What's your stack like? >>>> > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or >>>> framework is? >>>> > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to >>>> use it? >>>> > >>>> > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >>>> > >>>> > Toms >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Edinburgh mailing list >>>> > Edinburgh at python.org >>>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edinburgh mailing list >>>> Edinburgh at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh mailing list >>> Edinburgh at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alisdair at tullo.me.uk Tue Sep 2 18:13:27 2014 From: alisdair at tullo.me.uk (Alisdair Tullo) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:13:27 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I agree, this seems like the best option. Cheers, Alisdair On Tue, September 2, 2014 5:05 pm, James Doig wrote: > I vote: Keep pub meetup as is and run talks separately on a different > day. > > > On 2 September 2014 16:58, Mark Smith > wrote: > > >> Hi everybody, >> >> >> In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that >> we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks >> separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main >> function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating >> their preference. >> >> I think the options are: >> >> >> * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different >> day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python >> shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold >> each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and >> (possibly free) beer and pizza. >> >> >> If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post >> them. >> >> --Mark >> >> >> >> On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: >> >> >>> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >>> >>> >>> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >>> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ >>> years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are >>> considering learning python as their first programming language! Apart >>> from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there >>> was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for >>> talks for a decade :) >>> >>> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending >>> in talks as the first part of the meetup. Not just every now and then, >>> but rather *each* time we meet. Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 >>> minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they >>> will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might >>> find a gap in their knowledge >>> >>> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as >>> to what kind of talk could you give: >>> >>> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >>> tuple and when to pick list? * decorators - how to write one and how >>> and when to use one * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with >>> setuptools * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy >>> bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze * flask and writing >>> a web app in 30 lines >>> >>> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and >>> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark >>> discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. >>> >>> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk >>> could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are >>> some of results: >>> >>> >>> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and >>> it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out * John >>> - interprocess communication >>> * Alistair - conda >>> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >>> buzzy Go compares to python * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite >>> the rumors, plone is still very much alive * Ross - a full stack trace >>> of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby >>> might be involved) >>> >>> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >>> willing to present: * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >>> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >>> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >>> * automating deployment with fab >>> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >>> >>> >>> >>> What's your stack like? >>> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >>> is? What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get >>> to use it? >>> >>> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >>> >>> >>> Toms >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh mailing list >>> Edinburgh at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > From abassett at twig-world.com Tue Sep 2 18:32:28 2014 From: abassett at twig-world.com (Aaron Bassett) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CD09FF1-4E60-432F-8303-C91BC6919B18@twig-world.com> There is a fourth option I?ve seen some groups use, replace the regular pub meet-up once every few months (3? 6?) with talks. This has the benefit of not splitting the group without completely replacing the pub meet-ups. It also takes the pressure off from having to find speakers and a venue every single month. The Python Glasgow group does something similar except with their dojo instead of talks and it seems to work well. cheers, Aaron Aaron Bassett Senior Technical Lead On 2 Sep 2014, at 16:58, Mark Smith wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > * John - interprocess communication > * Alistair - conda > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > * automating deployment with fab > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > What's your stack like? > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main > >> function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating > >> their preference. > >> > >> I think the options are: > >> > >> > >> * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different > >> day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python > >> shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold > >> each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > >> (possibly free) beer and pizza. > >> > >> > >> If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post > >> them. > >> > >> --Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > >>> > >>> > >>> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as > >>> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ > >>> years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are > >>> considering learning python as their first programming language! Apart > >>> from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there > >>> was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for > >>> talks for a decade :) > >>> > >>> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending > >>> in talks as the first part of the meetup. Not just every now and then, > >>> but rather *each* time we meet. Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 > >>> minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they > >>> will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might > >>> find a gap in their knowledge > >>> > >>> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as > >>> to what kind of talk could you give: > >>> > >>> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick > >>> tuple and when to pick list? * decorators - how to write one and how > >>> and when to use one * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with > >>> setuptools * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy > >>> bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze * flask and writing > >>> a web app in 30 lines > >>> > >>> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and > >>> there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark > >>> discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > >>> > >>> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk > >>> could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are > >>> some of results: > >>> > >>> > >>> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and > >>> it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out * John > >>> - interprocess communication > >>> * Alistair - conda > >>> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new > >>> buzzy Go compares to python * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite > >>> the rumors, plone is still very much alive * Ross - a full stack trace > >>> of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby > >>> might be involved) > >>> > >>> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be > >>> willing to present: * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > >>> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > >>> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > >>> * automating deployment with fab > >>> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> What's your stack like? > >>> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework > >>> is? 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URL: From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Sep 2 23:46:08 2014 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 22:46:08 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <4CD09FF1-4E60-432F-8303-C91BC6919B18@twig-world.com> References: <4CD09FF1-4E60-432F-8303-C91BC6919B18@twig-world.com> Message-ID: I'd also prefer "one meetup date, but every N months we have talks before drinks", which I've seen work well elsewhere (for N=1). Miles On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Aaron Bassett wrote: > There is a fourth option I?ve seen some groups use, replace the regular > pub meet-up once every few months (3? 6?) with talks. This has the benefit > of not splitting the group without completely replacing the pub meet-ups. > It also takes the pressure off from having to find speakers and a venue > every single month. The Python Glasgow group does something similar except > with their dojo instead of talks and it seems to work well. > > cheers, > > Aaron > > > *Aaron Bassett* > Senior Technical Lead > > > On 2 Sep 2014, at 16:58, Mark Smith > wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that > we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. > Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can > anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's > office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > >> Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) >> >> I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as >> well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there >> were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning >> python as their first programming language! >> Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - >> there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel >> for talks for a decade :) >> >> As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in >> talks as the first part of the meetup. >> Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. >> Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic >> is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so >> for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge >> >> I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to >> what kind of talk could you give: >> >> * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick >> tuple and when to pick list? >> * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one >> * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools >> * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make >> managing python dependencies a breeze >> * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines >> >> These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there >> are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions >> beyond what any of us could imagine. >> >> During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could >> you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of >> results: >> >> * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it >> has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out >> * John - interprocess communication >> * Alistair - conda >> * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new >> buzzy Go compares to python >> * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still >> very much alive >> * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it >> all began (some ruby might be involved) >> >> Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be >> willing to present: >> * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib >> * adding autocomplete to your application in linux >> * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 >> * automating deployment with fab >> * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests >> >> >> What's your stack like? >> What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework >> is? >> What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use >> it? >> >> Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! >> >> Toms >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This has the benefit of not splitting the group without completely replacing the pub meet-ups. It also takes the pressure off from having to find speakers and a venue every single month. The Python Glasgow group does something similar except with their dojo instead of talks and it seems to work well. cheers, Aaron Aaron Bassett Senior Technical Lead [cid:image001.png at 01CFC758.25A9D3D0] On 2 Sep 2014, at 16:58, Mark Smith > wrote: Hi everybody, In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. I think the options are: * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. --Mark On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms > wrote: Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out * John - interprocess communication * Alistair - conda * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib * adding autocomplete to your application in linux * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 * automating deployment with fab * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests What's your stack like? What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! Toms _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? Cheers Glenn ________________________________ From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59 To: Python Edinburgh Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! Hi everybody, In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. I think the options are: * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. --Mark On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out * John - interprocess communication * Alistair - conda * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib * adding autocomplete to your application in linux * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 * automating deployment with fab * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests What's your stack like? What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! Toms _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. 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In-Reply-To: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Message-ID: <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: > Hello, > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents > that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes > along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash > with the timing of the pub meetup. > I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings with the occasional talk is more feasible. > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. Any particular questions? Cheers magnus From toms.baugis at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 11:27:00 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:27:00 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] A quick poll! Message-ID: Mark had an excellent idea to organize a poll. In retrospect, this is how i should have started, so apologies for all the noise. But hey - you live you learn, right? The email thread went out of hand quickly, so i threw together a quick poll that will let us figure out what's going on in a much more organized fashion: https://toms.typeform.com/to/NAMRnD It has 8 questions and should take just a minute of your time! Will publish the results in a week. Much appreciated, and don't worry - only thing that's gonna happen to Python Edinburgh is that it will get more and more awesome. Cheers! Toms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at sneeu.com Wed Sep 3 11:40:31 2014 From: john at sneeu.com (John Sutherland) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:40:31 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Message-ID: <43545100-7E17-4C6F-9582-62B2CA67EA62@sneeu.com> I don?t think anyone is talking about splitting the group, I assume that all talks, and informal pub-meetups will continue to be organised, and announced on this mailing list. I think PyLadies (and other female focused groups) is an amazing initiative, it?s well organised, and does something that 20 men in the pub will never achieve: making women feel welcome, and at ease. Python Edinburgh should be as welcoming as possible, but we have to accept that regardless of anything we do, that people may still feel intimidated. John. -- http://sneeu.com/ On 3 Sep 2014, at 10:05, Bald, Glenn wrote: > Hello, > > I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of Judea or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture to welcome everyone. > > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with the timing of the pub meetup. > > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > > Cheers > Glenn > > From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59 > To: Python Edinburgh > Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough fuel for talks for a decade :) > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make managing python dependencies a breeze > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > * John - interprocess communication > * Alistair - conda > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new buzzy Go compares to python > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still very much alive > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where it all began (some ruby might be involved) > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > * automating deployment with fab > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > What's your stack like? > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 495 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk Wed Sep 3 11:42:56 2014 From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:42:56 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> I have only been to one pub meet. People were friendly but I was a bit lost. Most people seemed regulars? For me personally demonstrations and talks possibly more useful at my stage but I can see for more established developers pub meetup useful. The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS never heard of gdal (will look up). -----Original Message----- From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Hagdorn Sent: 03 September 2014 10:32 To: edinburgh at python.org Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: > Hello, > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents > that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes > along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash > with the timing of the pub meetup. > I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings with the occasional talk is more feasible. > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. Any particular questions? Cheers magnus _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++ The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk Wed Sep 3 12:00:46 2014 From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:00:46 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <43545100-7E17-4C6F-9582-62B2CA67EA62@sneeu.com> Message-ID: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA2@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> The existence or need for a separate female focused group would suggest that there is a need for a slight culture change? I work for an organisation where half the development staff are female and in a speciality where around half of users and developers are female I see inclusion as a positive thing. I have never seen separate woman's groups like this and thought it was odd. But this could just be my background. Is it a normal thing? The 1st thing I noticed at the one time I came to the meetup was there was only one woman and about 30 males. -----Original Message----- From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of John Sutherland Sent: 03 September 2014 10:41 To: Python Edinburgh Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! I don't think anyone is talking about splitting the group, I assume that all talks, and informal pub-meetups will continue to be organised, and announced on this mailing list. I think PyLadies (and other female focused groups) is an amazing initiative, it's well organised, and does something that 20 men in the pub will never achieve: making women feel welcome, and at ease. Python Edinburgh should be as welcoming as possible, but we have to accept that regardless of anything we do, that people may still feel intimidated. John. -- http://sneeu.com/ On 3 Sep 2014, at 10:05, Bald, Glenn wrote: > Hello, > > I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of Judea or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture to welcome everyone. > > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with the timing of the pub meetup. > > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > > Cheers > Glenn > > From: Edinburgh > [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] > On Behalf Of Mark Smith > Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59 > To: Python Edinburgh > Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python > shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering learning python as their first programming language! > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - > there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough > fuel for talks for a decade :) > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in talks as the first part of the meetup. > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no > topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the > beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to what kind of talk could you give: > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick tuple and when to pick list? > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make > managing python dependencies a breeze > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of results: > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and > it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > * John - interprocess communication > * Alistair - conda > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new > buzzy Go compares to python > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still > very much alive > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where > it all began (some ruby might be involved) > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be willing to present: > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > * automating deployment with fab > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > What's your stack like? > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework is? > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to use it? > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. > Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. > > +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and > +++++ communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the > +++++ effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. > +++++ +++++ > > The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. > > On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++ The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free From magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org Wed Sep 3 12:07:05 2014 From: magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org (Magnus Hagdorn) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:07:05 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Message-ID: <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:42 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: > The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in > GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS > never heard of gdal (will look up). > Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you can program ArcGIS in python. gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. Another big area is processing of satellite images. Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to teach our undergrads python. Cheers magnus From rebkwok at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:23:03 2014 From: rebkwok at gmail.com (Becky Smith) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:23:03 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: PyLadies is a global organisation with chapters in many locations around the world (http://www.pyladies.com/locations/). Yes, there is a need for a culture change, and PyLadies (and other groups aimed at supporting women in programming) are part of the work towards that change. The aim is not to divide female/male groups, but to give women a group that they feel comfortable joining, and to provide a bridge into the wider python community. Then we may get a better balance at Python Edinburgh as well. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Magnus Hagdorn < magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:42 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: > > The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in > > GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS > > never heard of gdal (will look up). > > > > Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you > can program ArcGIS in python. > > gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to > direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS > processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. > Another big area is processing of satellite images. > > Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and > learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a > particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and > see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to > teach our undergrads python. > > Cheers > magnus > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk Wed Sep 3 12:22:54 2014 From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:22:54 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA3@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Hi Magnus, C# is more powerful for full control but yes python is very usefull for fast easy automation of many if not most tasks. I have a quadcopter to take aerial photos and we have every kind of satalite/aerial photos here so very interested to here about image processing. Not trying to split anyone but there is a Scottish QGIS user group which meets every few months. Cheers Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Hagdorn Sent: 03 September 2014 11:07 To: edinburgh at python.org Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:42 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: > The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in > GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS > never heard of gdal (will look up). > Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you can program ArcGIS in python. gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. Another big area is processing of satellite images. Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to teach our undergrads python. Cheers magnus _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++ The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free From jcspray at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:25:59 2014 From: jcspray at gmail.com (John Spray) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:25:59 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] A quick poll! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm replying here because one of the good things about our existing mailing list + IRC setup is the openness, and the ability to speak freely rather than being polled into a statistic. Plus I just hate web surveys, but I didn't want that to stand in the way of sharing my views. Talks: yes, but they're not essential. Combined or separate events: separate. Trying to find one venue/timeslot that fits both purposes is a pain. More importantly, I would like any new initiatives to stand on their own two feet before cancelling/displacing the existing meetup. Could you give a talk: not going to pre-commit here. Find a date/venue/format first. Sponsor: no, and I'm not comfortable with joe-random-group-member publicly offering sponsership opportunities on behalf of the group. It is very much preferable to seek out free spaces first, and accept sponsorship as a last resort. Ever given a talk: yeah. How long have I been coming: 3 years ish Meetup.com: would prefer if this went away. It wasn't appropriate to create this on behalf of the group without discussing it first, and the existing mailing list is fit for purpose. Python Edinburgh has been a successful event for years, and especially over the last year it has grown markedly in popularity, to the point where we've moved venues to accommodate the extra people. Part of that success has been the informal and flexible nature of the group. It is important to respect that, and respect the existing group when proposing new things and changes. John On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Toms wrote: > Mark had an excellent idea to organize a poll. > In retrospect, this is how i should have started, so apologies for all the > noise. > But hey - you live you learn, right? > > The email thread went out of hand quickly, so i threw together a quick poll > that will let us figure out what's going on in a much more organized > fashion: > > https://toms.typeform.com/to/NAMRnD > > It has 8 questions and should take just a minute of your time! > > Will publish the results in a week. > > Much appreciated, and don't worry - only thing that's gonna happen to Python > Edinburgh is that it will get more and more awesome. > > Cheers! > > Toms > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > From toms.baugis at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:22:05 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:22:05 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA2@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <43545100-7E17-4C6F-9582-62B2CA67EA62@sneeu.com> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA2@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Message-ID: Both pyladies and railsgirls started not so long ago (~2010) and have made waves of change. The community is changing towards more inclusive one, most recent pycon being a good example - half of the speakers were female. While for me personally there are just two types of people - me and not me, and the gender topic bores me (just from your surprise i'd figure you are on similar standing), the problem unfortunately is there, and organisations like these are vital to make the change happen. On your side what you can do, is minor educating yourself on the topic http://www.pyladies.com/locations/ http://railsgirls.com/ Just like in other cases, the IT industry is perfect for pioneering such change as the community is inherently open to change. And yes, there is obviously a certain imbalance in the community. If i'd be a girl, i'd have hard time hanging out in a pub with 30 guys, however inclusive they are. Meeting a half-half balance would be ideal. Same goes for knitting meetups that i hear are riddled with lack of male representatives. Toms On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bald, Glenn wrote: > The existence or need for a separate female focused group would suggest > that there is a need for a slight culture change? I work for an > organisation where half the development staff are female and in a > speciality where around half of users and developers are female I see > inclusion as a positive thing. I have never seen separate woman's groups > like this and thought it was odd. But this could just be my background. > Is it a normal thing? The 1st thing I noticed at the one time I came to > the meetup was there was only one woman and about 30 males. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edinburgh > [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On > Behalf Of John Sutherland > Sent: 03 September 2014 10:41 > To: Python Edinburgh > Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > I don't think anyone is talking about splitting the group, I assume that > all talks, and informal pub-meetups will continue to be organised, and > announced on this mailing list. > > I think PyLadies (and other female focused groups) is an amazing > initiative, it's well organised, and does something that 20 men in the > pub will never achieve: making women feel welcome, and at ease. > > Python Edinburgh should be as welcoming as possible, but we have to > accept that regardless of anything we do, that people may still feel > intimidated. > > John. > > > -- > http://sneeu.com/ > > On 3 Sep 2014, at 10:05, Bald, Glenn > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of Judea > or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do > anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate > womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or > intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture > to welcome everyone. > > > > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents > that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes > along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with > the timing of the pub meetup. > > > > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > > > > Cheers > > Glenn > > > > From: Edinburgh > > [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] > > On Behalf Of Mark Smith > > Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59 > > To: Python Edinburgh > > Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling > that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks > separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main > function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating > their preference. > > > > I think the options are: > > > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different > day. > > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python > > shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post > them. > > > > --Mark > > > > > > On 2 September 2014 11:12, Toms wrote: > > Hello again, this is the third and final email from me today :) > > > > I ran a quick survey last time and was extremely happy to see that as > well as there are people who have been coding in python for 5+ years, > there were also plenty who had just started or even are considering > learning python as their first programming language! > > Apart from that, there was not a single person using the same stack - > > there was so much diversity between 20 people, that there is enough > > fuel for talks for a decade :) > > > > As such, I would like to tilt the format of the meetups by blending in > talks as the first part of the meetup. > > Not just every now and then, but rather *each* time we meet. > > Ideally we should be looking for 5-15 minute long talks, where no > > topic is too big or too small. And they will be exciting as for the > > beginners, so for the experts that might find a gap in their knowledge > > > > I'll give a few examples that i hope will spark your imagination as to > what kind of talk could you give: > > > > * lists, dicts, sets, tuples, namedtuples, frozensets - when to pick > tuple and when to pick list? > > * decorators - how to write one and how and when to use one > > * packing it up and shipping to PyPI with setuptools > > * virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper, workon and other handy bits to make > > managing python dependencies a breeze > > * flask and writing a web app in 30 lines > > > > These are talks anyone experienced a bit in python could give - and > there are tons of others. I'm quite certain that it would spark > discussions beyond what any of us could imagine. > > > > During the last meetup I also asked a few of you as to what talk could > you give if they would be given these 5-15 minutes, here are some of > results: > > > > * Thomas wrote a quizz web app in python and has open sourced it and > > it has picked up - so it's most certainly worth checking it out > > * John - interprocess communication > > * Alistair - conda > > * The gentleman who's name is now escaping me (sorry!) - how the new > > buzzy Go compares to python > > * Manuel - "plone" - turns out that despite the rumors, plone is still > > > very much alive > > * Ross - a full stack trace of a request - from browser down to where > > it all began (some ruby might be involved) > > > > Here are few i can think myself from the top of the head, i could be > willing to present: > > * docopt - the awesome self-documenting CLI lib > > * adding autocomplete to your application in linux > > * writing a desktop application in 100 lines on linux with GTK3 > > * automating deployment with fab > > * forget httplib/urrlib and embrace requests > > > > > > What's your stack like? > > What's your favourite or most often used feature, library or framework > is? > > What makes your head hurt and what excites you every time you get to > use it? > > > > Mail me privately with your talk ideas at toms.baugis at gmail.com! > > > > Toms > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > > > > > This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus > service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. 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URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 12:23:55 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:23:55 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Haha, beat you to it ;) On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Becky Smith wrote: > PyLadies is a global organisation with chapters in many locations around > the world (http://www.pyladies.com/locations/). Yes, there is a need for > a culture change, and PyLadies (and other groups aimed at supporting women > in programming) are part of the work towards that change. The aim is not > to divide female/male groups, but to give women a group that they feel > comfortable joining, and to provide a bridge into the wider python > community. Then we may get a better balance at Python Edinburgh as well. > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Magnus Hagdorn < > magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:42 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: >> > The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in >> > GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS >> > never heard of gdal (will look up). >> > >> >> Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you >> can program ArcGIS in python. >> >> gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to >> direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS >> processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. >> Another big area is processing of satellite images. >> >> Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and >> learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a >> particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and >> see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to >> teach our undergrads python. >> >> Cheers >> magnus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian at ianmcconachie.com Wed Sep 3 12:37:54 2014 From: ian at ianmcconachie.com (Ian McConachie) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:37:54 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! In-Reply-To: References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5406EF82.1030501@ianmcconachie.com> Hi everyone, I have been lurking on this mailing list for quite some time but maybe should now stick my hand in the air. I think that PyLadies is an excellent group. I used to teach computing at college and one of the issues that we were always trying to find solutions for was attracting women into computer science. Any initiative that presents a women friendly path into the programming community can only be applauded and supported. I was very pleased to see the emergence of the Edinburgh group, well done Becky. I joined this mailing group a few years ago and attended one pub meetup which turned out not to be what I was anticipating. Everyone was really friendly and welcoming but due to the nature of meeting in a pub, I felt like I was gatecrashing on a group of friends having a regular get together. It would be interesting for someone to think about how many people, like myself have come along to only one metup. I think the more structured approach of talks and workshops would offer a better environment for new people to come along and feel welcomed into the group. Then maybe more people will feel comfortable in joining in the pub meetups as well. > Becky Smith > 3 September 2014 11:23 > PyLadies is a global organisation with chapters in many locations > around the world (http://www.pyladies.com/locations/). Yes, there is > a need for a culture change, and PyLadies (and other groups aimed at > supporting women in programming) are part of the work towards that > change. The aim is not to divide female/male groups, but to give > women a group that they feel comfortable joining, and to provide a > bridge into the wider python community. Then we may get a better > balance at Python Edinburgh as well. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > Magnus Hagdorn > 3 September 2014 11:07 > > Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you > can program ArcGIS in python. > > gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to > direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS > processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. > Another big area is processing of satellite images. > > Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and > learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a > particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and > see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to > teach our undergrads python. > > Cheers > magnus > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > Bald, Glenn > 3 September 2014 10:42 > I have only been to one pub meet. People were friendly but I was a bit > lost. Most people seemed regulars? For me personally demonstrations and > talks possibly more useful at my stage but I can see for more > established developers pub meetup useful. > > The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in > GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS > never heard of gdal (will look up). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edinburgh > [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On > Behalf Of Magnus Hagdorn > Sent: 03 September 2014 10:32 > To: edinburgh at python.org > Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: >> Hello, > >> I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents >> that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes >> along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash >> with the timing of the pub meetup. >> > > > I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. > Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd > prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is > tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings > with the occasional talk is more feasible. > > >> Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? >> > > We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using > python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. > > Any particular questions? > > Cheers > magnus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus > service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM > Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your > organisations IT Helpdesk. > Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or > recorded for legal purposes. > > +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++ > > The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable& Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. > > On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > Magnus Hagdorn > 3 September 2014 10:32 > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: >> Hello, > >> I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents >> that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes >> along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash >> with the timing of the pub meetup. >> > > > I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. > Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd > prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is > tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings > with the occasional talk is more feasible. > > >> Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? >> > > We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using > python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. > > Any particular questions? > > Cheers > magnus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > Bald, Glenn > 3 September 2014 10:05 > Hello, > I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of Judea > or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do > anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate > womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or > intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture > to welcome everyone. > I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents > that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes > along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash > with the timing of the pub meetup. > Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? > Cheers > Glenn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Edinburgh > [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mark Smith > *Sent:* 02 September 2014 16:59 > *To:* Python Edinburgh > *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! > > Hi everybody, > > In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling > that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks > separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main > function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating > their preference. > > I think the options are: > > * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different > day. > * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python > shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub > * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and > (possibly free) beer and pizza. > > If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post them. > > --Mark > > > > > This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus > service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM > Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks John, The results will obviously published in full (typeform offers a handy CSV export that you can process with tablib or pandas or whatever) This just makes counting a mess and every single reply is a potential trigger for a an off-topic discussion, so I hope, the rest can overcome their PTSD on beautifully crafted web 2.0 surveys and comply with the plea :) Toms P.S. I added you replies to the poll On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM, John Spray wrote: > I'm replying here because one of the good things about our existing > mailing list + IRC setup is the openness, and the ability to speak > freely rather than being polled into a statistic. Plus I just hate > web surveys, but I didn't want that to stand in the way of sharing my > views. > > Talks: yes, but they're not essential. > Combined or separate events: separate. Trying to find one > venue/timeslot that fits both purposes is a pain. More importantly, I > would like any new initiatives to stand on their own two feet before > cancelling/displacing the existing meetup. > Could you give a talk: not going to pre-commit here. Find a > date/venue/format first. > Sponsor: no, and I'm not comfortable with joe-random-group-member > publicly offering sponsership opportunities on behalf of the group. > It is very much preferable to seek out free spaces first, and accept > sponsorship as a last resort. > Ever given a talk: yeah. > How long have I been coming: 3 years ish > Meetup.com: would prefer if this went away. It wasn't appropriate to > create this on behalf of the group without discussing it first, and > the existing mailing list is fit for purpose. > > Python Edinburgh has been a successful event for years, and especially > over the last year it has grown markedly in popularity, to the point > where we've moved venues to accommodate the extra people. Part of > that success has been the informal and flexible nature of the group. > It is important to respect that, and respect the existing group when > proposing new things and changes. > > John > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Toms wrote: > > Mark had an excellent idea to organize a poll. > > In retrospect, this is how i should have started, so apologies for all > the > > noise. > > But hey - you live you learn, right? > > > > The email thread went out of hand quickly, so i threw together a quick > poll > > that will let us figure out what's going on in a much more organized > > fashion: > > > > https://toms.typeform.com/to/NAMRnD > > > > It has 8 questions and should take just a minute of your time! > > > > Will publish the results in a week. > > > > Much appreciated, and don't worry - only thing that's gonna happen to > Python > > Edinburgh is that it will get more and more awesome. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Toms > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk Wed Sep 3 13:14:44 2014 From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:14:44 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! References: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA0@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409736731.4192.3.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA1@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> <1409738825.4192.11.camel@akran.geos.ed.ac.uk> <5406EF82.1030501@ianmcconachie.com> Message-ID: <7517415E78F5E940BA56E54EFFAC7878289DA5@exch1.domforestry.forestry.gov.uk> Hi Becky, Everyone I also agree with what Ian said when I turned up to the pub it felt like gate crashing a someone elses party despite most people going out of there way to be welcoming. Don't get me wrong I think the pub meetups are a good idea, but there is also a market for an event that is perhaps more formal and welcomes newcomers and women on an equal footing? I think Ian asks an interesting question. So I sort of repeat in my own words. Are you on this mailing list and would like to go to the meetup but not that comfortable trying to make conversation with a large group you don't know(yet), especially if you think they have more experience? Have you been just once? I was not intending to be critical of pyLadies. It's good that that you organised such a group. It's the need to have the group in the 1st place that is what I find alien. At the one meetup I went to it was impossible not to notice it was a very male dominated group. I had never seen this before. I was not going to the pub to meet woman I just found there absense noticable. Cheers Glenn ________________________________ From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Ian McConachie Sent: 03 September 2014 11:38 To: Python Edinburgh Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! Hi everyone, I have been lurking on this mailing list for quite some time but maybe should now stick my hand in the air. I think that PyLadies is an excellent group. I used to teach computing at college and one of the issues that we were always trying to find solutions for was attracting women into computer science. Any initiative that presents a women friendly path into the programming community can only be applauded and supported. I was very pleased to see the emergence of the Edinburgh group, well done Becky. I joined this mailing group a few years ago and attended one pub meetup which turned out not to be what I was anticipating. Everyone was really friendly and welcoming but due to the nature of meeting in a pub, I felt like I was gatecrashing on a group of friends having a regular get together. It would be interesting for someone to think about how many people, like myself have come along to only one metup. I think the more structured approach of talks and workshops would offer a better environment for new people to come along and feel welcomed into the group. Then maybe more people will feel comfortable in joining in the pub meetups as well. Becky Smith 3 September 2014 11:23 PyLadies is a global organisation with chapters in many locations around the world (http://www.pyladies.com/locations/). Yes, there is a need for a culture change, and PyLadies (and other groups aimed at supporting women in programming) are part of the work towards that change. The aim is not to divide female/male groups, but to give women a group that they feel comfortable joining, and to provide a bridge into the wider python community. Then we may get a better balance at Python Edinburgh as well. _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh Magnus Hagdorn 3 September 2014 11:07 Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you can program ArcGIS in python. gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be able to direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of GIS processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate processes. Another big area is processing of satellite images. Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use and learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited to a particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes sense and see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting to teach our undergrads python. Cheers magnus _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh Bald, Glenn 3 September 2014 10:42 I have only been to one pub meet. People were friendly but I was a bit lost. Most people seemed regulars? For me personally demonstrations and talks possibly more useful at my stage but I can see for more established developers pub meetup useful. The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS never heard of gdal (will look up). -----Original Message----- From: Edinburgh [ mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Hagdorn Sent: 03 September 2014 10:32 To: edinburgh at python.org Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: Hello, I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with the timing of the pub meetup. I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings with the occasional talk is more feasible. Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. Any particular questions? Cheers magnus _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisations IT Helpdesk. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++ The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh Magnus Hagdorn 3 September 2014 10:32 On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote: Hello, I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with the timing of the pub meetup. I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do. Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings with the occasional talk is more feasible. Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends. Any particular questions? Cheers magnus _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh Bald, Glenn 3 September 2014 10:05 Hello, I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of Judea or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture to welcome everyone. I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with the timing of the pub meetup. Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context? Cheers Glenn ________________________________ From: Edinburgh [ mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59 To: Python Edinburgh Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks! Hi everybody, In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating their preference. I think the options are: * Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a different day. * Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub * Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza. 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The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. What's next ========== There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then will try seeing about the venue. I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to look for who could contribute with the talks. 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The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. > > > What's next > ========== > There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub > night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite > weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The > provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. > I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then will > try seeing about the venue. > > I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to look > for who could contribute with the talks. > > > Results of the poll > ============== > > 29 people participated > 7 have zero interest in talks > > talks + drinks vs 2 events > 19 people want to keep the pub night separate > > Talks > 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably > > Venues > 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting a > talk night > > Community > 14 out of 29 have given a talk before > all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be > willing to give a talk > 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year > 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) > > meetup.com > 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com > > > Comments > Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that > talks might ruin that > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. > > > What's next > ========== > There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. > I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then will try seeing about the venue. > > I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to look for who could contribute with the talks. > > > Results of the poll > ============== > > 29 people participated > 7 have zero interest in talks > > talks + drinks vs 2 events > 19 people want to keep the pub night separate > > Talks > 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably > > Venues > 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting a talk night > > Community > 14 out of 29 have given a talk before > all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be willing to give a talk > 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year > 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) > > meetup.com > 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com > > > Comments > Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that talks might ruin that > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10 Sep 2014 16:50, "Mark Smith" wrote: > Hey Toms, > > Cool to see the results - thanks for the effort you're putting in! > > Just a quick note that the 2nd Tuesday of the month isn't going to be > possible - it's the PyLadies meetup. > > Most of the major Edinburgh groups are listed at http://edinburgh2.com/ > (although PyLadies isn't yet), and there's also > https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh for checking conflicts. > > --Mark > > On 10 September 2014 16:17, Toms wrote: > >> Hello Python Edinburgh! >> >> This email is a two parter - what's next followed by the results of the >> poll. The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. >> >> >> What's next >> ========== >> There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub >> night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite >> weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The >> provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. >> I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then >> will try seeing about the venue. >> >> I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to >> look for who could contribute with the talks. >> >> >> Results of the poll >> ============== >> >> 29 people participated >> 7 have zero interest in talks >> >> talks + drinks vs 2 events >> 19 people want to keep the pub night separate >> >> Talks >> 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably >> >> Venues >> 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting >> a talk night >> >> Community >> 14 out of 29 have given a talk before >> all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be >> willing to give a talk >> 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year >> 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) >> >> meetup.com >> 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com >> >> >> Comments >> Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that >> talks might ruin that >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 18:03:23 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:03:23 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Poll results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the links and recommendations - will find a spot with least clashes and tyr again! Aaron - i decided to not even go into the meetup.com discussion. The reason to ask the question in the first place was to find out the chances that the organizing could move over to it. As there are plenty of people disliking that idea, that won't happen, yet the page itself will stay as a mirror and a means for people to discover the meetup. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Becky Smith wrote: > PyLadies will be on that list soon, now that Mark has alerted me to its > existence... > On 10 Sep 2014 16:50, "Mark Smith" > wrote: > >> Hey Toms, >> >> Cool to see the results - thanks for the effort you're putting in! >> >> Just a quick note that the 2nd Tuesday of the month isn't going to be >> possible - it's the PyLadies meetup. >> >> Most of the major Edinburgh groups are listed at http://edinburgh2.com/ >> (although PyLadies isn't yet), and there's also >> https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh for checking conflicts. >> >> --Mark >> >> On 10 September 2014 16:17, Toms wrote: >> >>> Hello Python Edinburgh! >>> >>> This email is a two parter - what's next followed by the results of the >>> poll. The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. >>> >>> >>> What's next >>> ========== >>> There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub >>> night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite >>> weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The >>> provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. >>> I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then >>> will try seeing about the venue. >>> >>> I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to >>> look for who could contribute with the talks. >>> >>> >>> Results of the poll >>> ============== >>> >>> 29 people participated >>> 7 have zero interest in talks >>> >>> talks + drinks vs 2 events >>> 19 people want to keep the pub night separate >>> >>> Talks >>> 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably >>> >>> Venues >>> 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting >>> a talk night >>> >>> Community >>> 14 out of 29 have given a talk before >>> all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be >>> willing to give a talk >>> 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year >>> 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) >>> >>> meetup.com >>> 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com >>> >>> >>> Comments >>> Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that >>> talks might ruin that >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh mailing list >>> Edinburgh at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh mailing list >> Edinburgh at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at sneeu.com Wed Sep 10 18:05:03 2014 From: john at sneeu.com (John Sutherland) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:05:03 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Poll results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D97B97A-D35B-4661-8FB2-3FEB2CDE5D8D@sneeu.com> It is done. John. -- http://sneeu.com/ On 10 Sep 2014, at 16:54, Becky Smith wrote: > PyLadies will be on that list soon, now that Mark has alerted me to its existence... > > On 10 Sep 2014 16:50, "Mark Smith" wrote: > Hey Toms, > > Cool to see the results - thanks for the effort you're putting in! > > Just a quick note that the 2nd Tuesday of the month isn't going to be possible - it's the PyLadies meetup. > > Most of the major Edinburgh groups are listed at http://edinburgh2.com/ (although PyLadies isn't yet), and there's also https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh for checking conflicts. > > --Mark > > On 10 September 2014 16:17, Toms wrote: > Hello Python Edinburgh! > > This email is a two parter - what's next followed by the results of the poll. The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. > > > What's next > ========== > There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. > I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then will try seeing about the venue. > > I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to look for who could contribute with the talks. > > > Results of the poll > ============== > > 29 people participated > 7 have zero interest in talks > > talks + drinks vs 2 events > 19 people want to keep the pub night separate > > Talks > 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably > > Venues > 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting a talk night > > Community > 14 out of 29 have given a talk before > all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be willing to give a talk > 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year > 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) > > meetup.com > 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com > > > Comments > Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that talks might ruin that > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 495 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From toms.baugis at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 18:10:04 2014 From: toms.baugis at gmail.com (Toms) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:10:04 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Poll results In-Reply-To: <2D97B97A-D35B-4661-8FB2-3FEB2CDE5D8D@sneeu.com> References: <2D97B97A-D35B-4661-8FB2-3FEB2CDE5D8D@sneeu.com> Message-ID: According to the linked, the third week is php/ruby, so why not aim for that then. October 14th provisionally then. Shout if that doesn't look any good either (alternatives welcome!) John - in my opinion, the topic of frequency is beyond point now and i'd suggest to start with one and then see how it goes. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:05 PM, John Sutherland wrote: > It is done. > > John. > > > -- > http://sneeu.com/ > > On 10 Sep 2014, at 16:54, Becky Smith wrote: > > > PyLadies will be on that list soon, now that Mark has alerted me to its > existence... > > > > On 10 Sep 2014 16:50, "Mark Smith" > wrote: > > Hey Toms, > > > > Cool to see the results - thanks for the effort you're putting in! > > > > Just a quick note that the 2nd Tuesday of the month isn't going to be > possible - it's the PyLadies meetup. > > > > Most of the major Edinburgh groups are listed at http://edinburgh2.com/ > (although PyLadies isn't yet), and there's also > https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh for checking conflicts. > > > > --Mark > > > > On 10 September 2014 16:17, Toms wrote: > > Hello Python Edinburgh! > > > > This email is a two parter - what's next followed by the results of the > poll. The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. > > > > > > What's next > > ========== > > There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub > night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite > weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The > provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. > > I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then > will try seeing about the venue. > > > > I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to > look for who could contribute with the talks. > > > > > > Results of the poll > > ============== > > > > 29 people participated > > 7 have zero interest in talks > > > > talks + drinks vs 2 events > > 19 people want to keep the pub night separate > > > > Talks > > 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably > > > > Venues > > 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting > a talk night > > > > Community > > 14 out of 29 have given a talk before > > all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be > willing to give a talk > > 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year > > 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) > > > > meetup.com > > 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com > > > > > > Comments > > Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that > talks might ruin that > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at sneeu.com Wed Sep 10 18:15:20 2014 From: john at sneeu.com (John Sutherland) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:15:20 +0100 Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Poll results In-Reply-To: References: <2D97B97A-D35B-4661-8FB2-3FEB2CDE5D8D@sneeu.com> Message-ID: <5BBB73D3-AA6C-4F4C-B5C0-F01599F05A2D@sneeu.com> Agreed. As for clashing with PHP & Ruby: don?t we want to save those souls? John. -- http://sneeu.com/ On 10 Sep 2014, at 17:10, Toms wrote: > According to the linked, the third week is php/ruby, so why not aim for that then. > October 14th provisionally then. Shout if that doesn't look any good either (alternatives welcome!) > > John - in my opinion, the topic of frequency is beyond point now and i'd suggest to start with one and then see how it goes. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:05 PM, John Sutherland wrote: > It is done. > > John. > > > -- > http://sneeu.com/ > > On 10 Sep 2014, at 16:54, Becky Smith wrote: > > > PyLadies will be on that list soon, now that Mark has alerted me to its existence... > > > > On 10 Sep 2014 16:50, "Mark Smith" wrote: > > Hey Toms, > > > > Cool to see the results - thanks for the effort you're putting in! > > > > Just a quick note that the 2nd Tuesday of the month isn't going to be possible - it's the PyLadies meetup. > > > > Most of the major Edinburgh groups are listed at http://edinburgh2.com/ (although PyLadies isn't yet), and there's also https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/area/62-edinburgh for checking conflicts. > > > > --Mark > > > > On 10 September 2014 16:17, Toms wrote: > > Hello Python Edinburgh! > > > > This email is a two parter - what's next followed by the results of the poll. The full poll results minus contact details are in the attachment. > > > > > > What's next > > ========== > > There was a resounding demand to have the talks separate from the pub night. As such I propose to try and have talks in the diagonally opposite weeks from the pub night. That would be the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The provisional date for first such event would be October 7th. > > I'll be jumping in IRC to talk through the details with Mark and then will try seeing about the venue. > > > > I'll be sending out follow-up email once a venue has been secured, to look for who could contribute with the talks. > > > > > > Results of the poll > > ============== > > > > 29 people participated > > 7 have zero interest in talks > > > > talks + drinks vs 2 events > > 19 people want to keep the pub night separate > > > > Talks > > 9 yes on willing to give a talk and 2 probably > > > > Venues > > 3 of the people who responded said that their company could help hosting a talk night > > > > Community > > 14 out of 29 have given a talk before > > all 4 respondents that have been <3 months with py edinburgh would be willing to give a talk > > 12 of the respondents have been members less than a year > > 15 are 1+ years (6 of which 3+ years) > > > > meetup.com > > 9 people expressed heavy dislike for meetup.com > > > > > > Comments > > Roughly 14 people appreciate informal atmosphere, 8 of which fear that talks might ruin that > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh mailing list > > Edinburgh at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh mailing list > Edinburgh at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hogarth have very kindly offered the use of their office in Waverley Gate, just next to the station, along with refreshments (including beer) and food. Thanks very much! Hogarth are recruiting Python & Django developers in Edinburgh. Places are limited, so please book yours here: https://v1.bookwhen.com/python-edinburgh --Mark # Python Edinburgh Dojos A dojo is an opportunity to get together with a bunch of other developers and practice our craft in a friendly and informal environment. It's an opportunity to learn from (or help) your peers and to work with technologies that maybe you don't encounter in your everyday role. We find the original coding dojos, as laid out by the Paris user group to be very formal and slightly intimidating! Instead, we loosely follow the format of the London Python Dojos. ## Stage 1: Gather We all get together at an agreed place and time. We chat until we think that everyone is here. ## Stage 2: Pick a Project Everyone gets around the whiteboard and throws around ideas for something we could attempt to achieve in a couple of hours. We put together a list and then everyone votes on their favourite idea. The ideal idea should be fun, challenging but not impossible in the time. ## Stage 3: Pick Teams Teams are chosen organically based on general experience and more specific experience with the kind of chosen project. The teams should all be of mixed experience -- we encourage total newbies to get stuck in! ## Stage 4: Solve the Problem Each team gathers to work somewhere in the space provided and attempts to solve the problem. The solution can lean whatever way the team decides: practical, hacky, fun or totally ludicrous. ## Stage 5: Demo your Solution It's showtime! Each team demonstrates their solution (working or not) to the other teams and says what they learned (if anything). 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Apologies, up front, in case we have failed to meet anyone's dietary requirements or beverage preferences ... We are having to manage without our office manager this week so all our supplies have been scavenged by whomever had a spare half an hour between meetings, hot-fixes, yadda-yadda. We've basically got the stereotypical supplies: Pizza, ale, larger, junk food, a few sandwiches, cola, tea, coffee, etc. Maybe we could get some feedback (via the mailing list?) after the even so we can be better prepared next time. Our London team would like a few photo's of the night so I'll be snapping a couple; if you'd like to remain out of any pictures just let me know. If you are having any trouble finding us email or tweet @pythonedinburgh and I'll try and help you out. Cheers, James. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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