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From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:06:13 -0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Hello All,
 
Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other
group? 
 
Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will
never get off the ground.
 
Cheers
Glenn 
 
 
________________________________

From: Edinburgh
[mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On
Behalf Of Miles Gould
Sent: 28 November 2014 18:22
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)


Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.


On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
wrote:


	Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy
to help out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls
workshop that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any
shortage of other students either :) 

	I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we
could get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life
too much?

	Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?


	Cheers,

	James.

	On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn
<Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
	

		
		Hi Paul,
		 
		I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups
helpful. I mainly use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would
be interested in learning more python.  
		 
		Cheers
		Glenn

________________________________

		From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald
<mailto:edinburgh-bounces%2Bglenn.bald> =forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org]
On Behalf Of paul colrain
		Sent: 27 November 2014 18:11
		To: edinburgh at python.org
		Subject: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
		
		
		Dear Pythonistas

		I'm looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone
to help me in the next few months to get to a stage where I can call
myself a Pythonista. I have a few bob.

		I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I'm pretty
clueless but I have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and
a year of C++, but more than 25 years ago!).
		I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of
simple Object Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies
or supply chains.

		In the future I hope to make simple desktop
applications, web applications, to use in my job (I do some data
analysis and modelling for the World Health Organisation in the area of
immunization supply chain % logistics). 

		Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.

		Cheers, Paul


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From carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:23:41 2014
From: carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com (Carla Rodriguez)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:23:41 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Hello All, 

I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can definitely help with that. 

Cheers, 

Carla

On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

> Hello All,
>  
> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>  
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never get off the ground.
>  
> Cheers
> Glenn 
>  
>  
> From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Miles Gould
> Sent: 28 November 2014 18:22
> To: Python Edinburgh
> Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
> 
> Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of other students either :)
> 
> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
> 
> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> James.
> 
> On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>  
> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in learning more python.  
>  
> Cheers
> Glenn
> 
> From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of paul colrain
> Sent: 27 November 2014 18:11
> To: edinburgh at python.org
> Subject: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
> 
> Dear Pythonistas
> 
> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in the next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I have a few bob.
> 
> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++, but more than 25 years ago!).
> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
> 
> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain % logistics).
> 
> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
> 
> Cheers, Paul
> 
> 
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From jamesdoig at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 13:56:20 2014
From: jamesdoig at gmail.com (James Doig)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:56:20 +0000
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Hi Carla,

I don't think real world problems are /that/ much of a learning curve for
beginners... If the Django workshop you mentioned is DjangoGirls (Thanks
again Becky :) ) I would say that was one of the most intense
learning/training session I could possibly imagine: A full stack web
application using html, javascript, css, python, platform as a service
cloud hosting, source control and virtual environments in a format catering
for all major operating systems as development environments... is WAY
harder than visualising data or (simple) image processing, mainly because
python has so many neat libraries for that kind of stuff :).
I would say you jumped in at the deep end with learning web apps as your
first introduction to python and should be just fine with some of the
suggested ideas so far :)

What is the availability of people who can mentor? As that may dictate the
format of these sessions... e.g: If it's mostly mentors who can spare 1 day
a month then maybe taking shifts doing once a week classes with a focused
topic is the best format... or if most people can do once every 2 weeks
with some spare time here and there then maybe fortnightly meet ups with
multiple mentors taking small dojo-esq groups, along with using guthub to
share and guide people outside of the lessons?

My availability is: one night every 2 weeks for meet-ups, with some time
between that to answer student emails and collaborate with other mentors,
etc.

James.

On 1 December 2014 at 12:23, Carla Rodriguez <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I
> just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit
> about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if
> real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is
> definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently
> studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting
> in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
> definitely help with that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carla
>
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
> wrote:
>
>  Hello All,
>
> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
> get off the ground.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* Edinburgh [
> mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
> <edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On Behalf
> Of *Miles Gould
> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
> *To:* Python Edinburgh
> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>
>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>> other students either :)
>>
>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could get
>> fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>
>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly
>>> use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in
>>> learning more python.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>
>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>
>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in the
>>> next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I
>>> have a few bob.
>>>
>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I
>>> have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>
>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>> logistics).
>>>
>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>
>>>
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From bill.buschle at ed.ac.uk  Mon Dec  1 13:35:19 2014
From: bill.buschle at ed.ac.uk (Bill Buschle)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:35:19 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Hi all,

I am interested to come and learn.  I have an engineering and
instrumentation background and can provide some problems/projects involving
the interaction between hardware and software (sensors, process control,
etc).

Cheers,
Bill

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk
> wrote:

>  Hello All,
>
> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
> get off the ground.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Miles Gould
> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
> *To:* Python Edinburgh
> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>
>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>> other students either :)
>>
>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could get
>> fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>
>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly
>>> use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in
>>> learning more python.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>
>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>
>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in the
>>> next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I
>>> have a few bob.
>>>
>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I
>>> have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>
>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>> logistics).
>>>
>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>
>>>
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Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:56 PM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
> My availability is: one night every 2 weeks for meet-ups, with some time
> between that to answer student emails and collaborate with other mentors,

I can make myself available for a similar amount of time, on an
"office hours" basis (i.e. I'm just showing up, and helping with any
questions asked, rather than anything requiring preparation).

I suspect that finding a suitable space could be challenging though,
I'm afraid I don't have any good suggestions for that myself.

John

From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec  1 14:30:25 2014
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I would come to learn; I have a real world problem that's not too
complicated. My background is drug discovery and molecular simulation.

Since I'm coming to take advantage rather than mentor (unless anyone needs
advice on shell scripting?) I will be maximally flexible with regards to
schedule, format and venue!
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From pcolrain at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  1 14:31:03 2014
From: pcolrain at yahoo.com (paul colrain)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:31:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Edinburgh Digest, Vol 53, Issue 1
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Hi GlenI am definitely up for it. I can bring along a real world issue or two.If attendance is moderate (less than 10) I can host (on Newhaven harbour) and supply snacks and drinks.Paul? 

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Hello All,
 
Ok shall we just do it?? A workshop/support group? for learning and
gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other
group? 
 
Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will
never get off the ground.
 
Cheers
Glenn 
 
 
________________________________

From: Edinburgh
[mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On
Behalf Of Miles Gould
Sent: 28 November 2014 18:22
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)


Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.


On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
wrote:


??? Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy
to help out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls
workshop that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any
shortage of other students either :) 

??? I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we
could get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life
too much?

??? Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?


??? Cheers,

??? James.

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??? ??? 
??? ??? Hi Paul,
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??? ??? I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups
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be interested in learning more python.? 
??? ??? 
??? ??? Cheers
??? ??? Glenn

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Hello All, 

I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can definitely help with that. 

Cheers, 

Carla

On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

> Hello All,
>? 
> Ok shall we just do it?? A workshop/support group? for learning and gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>? 
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never get off the ground.
>? 
> Cheers
> Glenn 
>? 
>? 
> From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of Miles Gould
> Sent: 28 November 2014 18:22
> To: Python Edinburgh
> Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
> 
> Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of other students either :)
> 
> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
> 
> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> James.
> 
> On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>? 
> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in learning more python.? 
>? 
> Cheers
> Glenn
> 
> From: Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On Behalf Of paul colrain
> Sent: 27 November 2014 18:11
> To: edinburgh at python.org
> Subject: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
> 
> Dear Pythonistas
> 
> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in the next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I have a few bob.
> 
> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++, but more than 25 years ago!).
> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
> 
> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain % logistics).
> 
> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
> 
> Cheers, Paul
> 
> 
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec  1 14:34:47 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:34:47 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Just to add that I'm a lecturer at Edinburgh Uni so may be able to finagle
a computer lab if we're desperate for a venue.

Is the Python student society in any way connected with Python Edinburgh?
On 1 Dec 2014 12:31, "Carla Rodriguez" <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I
> just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit
> about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if
> real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is
> definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently
> studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting
> in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
> definitely help with that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carla
>
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
> wrote:
>
>  Hello All,
>
> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
> get off the ground.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* Edinburgh [
> mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
> <edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On Behalf
> Of *Miles Gould
> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
> *To:* Python Edinburgh
> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>
>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>> other students either :)
>>
>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could get
>> fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>
>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly
>>> use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in
>>> learning more python.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>
>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>
>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in the
>>> next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I
>>> have a few bob.
>>>
>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I
>>> have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>
>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>> logistics).
>>>
>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
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>>> recorded for legal purposes.
>>>
>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
>>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
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>>>
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>>> & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs.
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>>
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From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk  Mon Dec  1 14:35:50 2014
From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:35:50 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I can teach beginners, or just provide support. I can also provide support
with more advanced programming topics (excepting the scientific stuff,
which I'm only an amateur at).

As to availability ... well, I have no idea how to fit this into my
schedule - maybe we can work something out :-)

--Mark

On 1 December 2014 at 13:30, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> I would come to learn; I have a real world problem that's not too
> complicated. My background is drug discovery and molecular simulation.
>
> Since I'm coming to take advantage rather than mentor (unless anyone needs
> advice on shell scripting?) I will be maximally flexible with regards to
> schedule, format and venue!
>
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From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk  Mon Dec  1 14:37:02 2014
From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:37:02 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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There's a Python student society? I've been organising this group for 4
years and never heard of it :-)

It would be great if you could help us out with introductions...

--Mark

On 1 December 2014 at 13:34, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Just to add that I'm a lecturer at Edinburgh Uni so may be able to finagle
> a computer lab if we're desperate for a venue.
>
> Is the Python student society in any way connected with Python Edinburgh?
> On 1 Dec 2014 12:31, "Carla Rodriguez" <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I
>> just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit
>> about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if
>> real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is
>> definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently
>> studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting
>> in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
>> definitely help with that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello All,
>>
>> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
>> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
>> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
>> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>>
>> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
>> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
>> get off the ground.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Edinburgh [
>> mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
>> <edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Miles Gould
>> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
>> *To:* Python Edinburgh
>> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>
>>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>>> other students either :)
>>>
>>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could
>>> get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> James.
>>>
>>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I mainly
>>>> use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested in
>>>> learning more python.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>>
>>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>>
>>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in
>>>> the next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista.
>>>> I have a few bob.
>>>>
>>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but I
>>>> have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>>
>>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>>> logistics).
>>>>
>>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>>>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>>>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
>>>> Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored
>>>> and/or recorded for legal purposes.
>>>>
>>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
>>>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
>>>> operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++
>>>>
>>>> The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government
>>>> Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable
>>>> & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs.
>>>>
>>>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
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>> recorded for legal purposes.
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>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
>> operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++
>>
>> The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government
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>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
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>>
>>
>>
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From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk  Mon Dec  1 14:40:04 2014
From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:40:04 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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We can probably host around 24 people at FanDuel's offices at QuarterMile.
We'd have to pick a date before I can confirm, though.

--Mark

On 1 December 2014 at 13:37, Mark Smith <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk>
wrote:

> There's a Python student society? I've been organising this group for 4
> years and never heard of it :-)
>
> It would be great if you could help us out with introductions...
>
> --Mark
>
> On 1 December 2014 at 13:34, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to add that I'm a lecturer at Edinburgh Uni so may be able to
>> finagle a computer lab if we're desperate for a venue.
>>
>> Is the Python student society in any way connected with Python Edinburgh?
>> On 1 Dec 2014 12:31, "Carla Rodriguez" <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I
>>> just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit
>>> about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if
>>> real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is
>>> definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently
>>> studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting
>>> in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
>>> definitely help with that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carla
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello All,
>>>
>>> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
>>> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
>>> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
>>> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>>>
>>> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
>>> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
>>> get off the ground.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Edinburgh [
>>> mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
>>> <edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Miles Gould
>>> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
>>> *To:* Python Edinburgh
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>
>>>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>>>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>>>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>>>> other students either :)
>>>>
>>>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could
>>>> get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> James.
>>>>
>>>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>>>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I
>>>>> mainly use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested
>>>>> in learning more python.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>>>
>>>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>>>
>>>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in
>>>>> the next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista.
>>>>> I have a few bob.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but
>>>>> I have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>>>> logistics).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>>>>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>>>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>>>>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
>>>>> Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored
>>>>> and/or recorded for legal purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
>>>>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
>>>>> operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++
>>>>>
>>>>> The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government
>>>>> Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable
>>>>> & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
>>> Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or
>>> recorded for legal purposes.
>>>
>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
>>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
>>> operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++
>>>
>>> The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government
>>> Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable
>>> & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs.
>>>
>>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec  1 14:49:40 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:49:40 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I'm sure someone from Python Edinburgh told me about them at the last pub
night :-). I may well have got the wrong end of the stick though.

If they are not in fact fictional I'd be happy to make introductions, once
I've introduced myself first!

Google can't find them but it can find the Computing Society.
On 1 Dec 2014 13:37, "Mark Smith" <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk> wrote:

> There's a Python student society? I've been organising this group for 4
> years and never heard of it :-)
>
> It would be great if you could help us out with introductions...
>
> --Mark
>
> On 1 December 2014 at 13:34, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to add that I'm a lecturer at Edinburgh Uni so may be able to
>> finagle a computer lab if we're desperate for a venue.
>>
>> Is the Python student society in any way connected with Python Edinburgh?
>> On 1 Dec 2014 12:31, "Carla Rodriguez" <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete beginner though, I
>>> just participated recently on a Workshop on Django and there I leaned a bit
>>> about Python but I am very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if
>>> real world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but it is
>>> definitely worth the try. So count on me for attending. I am currently
>>> studying at Edinburgh Uni so if there is any way I can help maybe getting
>>> in touch with people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
>>> definitely help with that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carla
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello All,
>>>
>>> Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for learning and
>>> gaining experience in python? Based on working on real world issues that
>>> people bring along? Is this different enough to anything that currently
>>> exists and can exist without having a negative impact on any other group?
>>>
>>> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like to
>>> take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will never
>>> get off the ground.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Edinburgh [
>>> mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
>>> <edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Miles Gould
>>> *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
>>> *To:* Python Edinburgh
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>
>>>  Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd be happy to help
>>>> out. I know Becky got a *lot* of interest in her Django girls workshop
>>>> that's running this weekend so I don't think there would be any shortage of
>>>> other students either :)
>>>>
>>>> I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take workshops we could
>>>> get fairly regular lessons without impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> James.
>>>>
>>>>  On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn <
>>>> Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would find small regular tutorials/self help groups helpful. I
>>>>> mainly use GIS software and C# with a little python. I would be interested
>>>>> in learning more python.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
>>>>> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>>>> *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>>>> *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>>>>
>>>>>   Dear Pythonistas
>>>>>
>>>>> I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser. Someone to help me in
>>>>> the next few months to get to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista.
>>>>> I have a few bob.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m pretty clueless but
>>>>> I have some programming experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>>>> but more than 25 years ago!).
>>>>> I would like to learn by doing, by building a couple of simple Object
>>>>> Oriented Monte Carlo programs to simulate simple economies or supply chains.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the future I hope to make simple desktop applications, web
>>>>> applications, to use in my job (I do some data analysis and modelling for
>>>>> the World Health Organisation in the area of immunization supply chain %
>>>>> logistics).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email was scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus
>>>>> service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. (CCTM
>>>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
>>>>> organisations IT Helpdesk.
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>>>>> and/or recorded for legal purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
>>>>> communications carried out on them recorded, to secure the effective
>>>>> operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. +++++
>>>>>
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>>>>> Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable
>>>>> & Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs.
>>>>>
>>>>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your
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>>> recorded for legal purposes.
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>>> +++++ The Forestry Commission's computer systems may be monitored and
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>>> On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free
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>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
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From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk  Mon Dec  1 15:24:01 2014
From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 14:24:01 -0000
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Hello Everyone,

So we are doing this! It's great so many people are interested in
getting involved. I was thinking venue was going to be biggest hurdle,
but looks like we have options. This excellent well done everyone. 


We seem to have people of all levels and varying backgrounds which
should be good. Like the real world some problems will have simple
solutions and other will be more complex so there will be something for
all abilities(Even people who have never programmed). 


Shall we aim for a once every two weeks meet?
Is there any preference for times and days? Or times and days you don't
want?
How long should we make each session?


Mark/Douglas/Paul

Depending on numbers of people who wish to attend we could perhaps
rotate around venues based on availability so we spread the load? Shall
we try and pick a date and time for the 1st event?

Cheers
Glenn






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From alisdair at tullo.me.uk  Mon Dec  1 15:00:09 2014
From: alisdair at tullo.me.uk (Alisdair Tullo)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 14:00:09 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Hi all,

I'd vote that we start with a general "bring-a-project" workshop, since 
there seems to be a clear demand and it's the simplest (pretty much zero 
preparation, except for a venue) and see if there's a need for more 
specialised sessions later on.

I could mentor for science things -- e.g. data analysis and 
visualisation -- but I'd have a go at anything else, too.

Cheers,

Alisdair

On 01/12/14 13:40, Mark Smith wrote:
> We can probably host around 24 people at FanDuel's offices at
> QuarterMile. We'd have to pick a date before I can confirm, though.
>
> --Mark
>
> On 1 December 2014 at 13:37, Mark Smith
> <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk
> <mailto:mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     There's a Python student society? I've been organising this group
>     for 4 years and never heard of it :-)
>
>     It would be great if you could help us out with introductions...
>
>     --Mark
>
>     On 1 December 2014 at 13:34, Douglas Houston
>     <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
>     <mailto:douglasrhouston at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Just to add that I'm a lecturer at Edinburgh Uni so may be able
>         to finagle a computer lab if we're desperate for a venue.
>
>         Is the Python student society in any way connected with Python
>         Edinburgh?
>
>         On 1 Dec 2014 12:31, "Carla Rodriguez"
>         <carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com <mailto:carlarodriguez90 at gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
>
>             Hello All,
>
>             I would be willing to come to learn. I am a complete
>             beginner though, I just participated recently on a Workshop
>             on Django and there I leaned a bit about Python but I am
>             very interested in learning a lot more. I wonder if real
>             world issues would be appropriate for a beginners level, but
>             it is definitely worth the try. So count on me for
>             attending. I am currently studying at Edinburgh Uni so if
>             there is any way I can help maybe getting in touch with
>             people who would be interested in attending as well, I can
>             definitely help with that.
>
>             Cheers,
>
>             Carla
>
>             On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Bald, Glenn
>             <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk
>             <mailto:Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>> wrote:
>
>>             Hello All,
>>             Ok shall we just do it?  A workshop/support group  for
>>             learning and gaining experience in python? Based on
>>             working on real world issues that people bring along? Is
>>             this different enough to anything that currently exists
>>             and can exist without having a negative impact on any
>>             other group?
>>             Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor?
>>             Anyone like to take the lead and organise or help
>>             organise? Do be shy or this will never get off the ground.
>>             Cheers
>>             Glenn
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             *From:* Edinburgh
>>             [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org]
>>             *On Behalf Of *Miles Gould
>>             *Sent:* 28 November 2014 18:22
>>             *To:* Python Edinburgh
>>             *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>
>>             Great idea; I'm up for mentoring.
>>
>>             On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Doig
>>             <jamesdoig at gmail.com <mailto:jamesdoig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Small regular workshops would be a great Idea and I'd
>>                 be happy to help out. I know Becky got a *lot* of
>>                 interest in her Django girls workshop that's running
>>                 this weekend so I don't think there would be any
>>                 shortage of other students either :)
>>
>>                 I imagine if the mentors took it in shifts to take
>>                 workshops we could get fairly regular lessons without
>>                 impacting anyones personal life too much?
>>
>>                 Any ideas? Anyone else up for mentoring?
>>
>>
>>                 Cheers,
>>
>>                 James.
>>
>>                 On 28 November 2014 at 11:01, Bald, Glenn
>>                 <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk
>>                 <mailto:Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>                     __
>>                     Hi Paul,
>>                     I would find small regular tutorials/self help
>>                     groups helpful. I mainly use GIS software and C#
>>                     with a little python. I would be interested in
>>                     learning more python.
>>                     Cheers
>>                     Glenn
>>
>>                     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                     *From:* Edinburgh
>>                     [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald
>>                     <mailto:edinburgh-bounces%2Bglenn.bald>=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org
>>                     <mailto:forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org>] *On
>>                     Behalf Of *paul colrain
>>                     *Sent:* 27 November 2014 18:11
>>                     *To:* edinburgh at python.org
>>                     <mailto:edinburgh at python.org>
>>                     *Subject:* [Python Edinburgh] (no subject)
>>
>>                     Dear Pythonistas____
>>
>>                     I?m looking for a Python mentor/tutor/adviser.
>>                     Someone to help me in the next few months to get
>>                     to a stage where I can call myself a Pythonista. I
>>                     have a few bob.____
>>
>>                     I wish to learn Python and OO program design. I?m
>>                     pretty clueless but I have some programming
>>                     experience (12 years of Fortran and a year of C++,
>>                     but more than 25 years ago!).____
>>                     I would like to learn by doing, by building a
>>                     couple of simple Object Oriented Monte Carlo
>>                     programs to simulate simple economies or supply
>>                     chains.____
>>
>>                     In the future I hope to make simple desktop
>>                     applications, web applications, to use in my job
>>                     (I do some data analysis and modelling for the
>>                     World Health Organisation in the area of
>>                     immunization supply chain % logistics). ____
>>
>>                     Any advice, suggestions, offers greatly
>>                     appreciated.____
>>
>>                     Cheers, Paul____
>>
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From dgm at agamik.co.uk  Mon Dec  1 16:15:44 2014
From: dgm at agamik.co.uk (dgm)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 15:15:44 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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The only people who have an input into which days the workshop runs are
Fanduel/venue provider and the person who is in charge of the workshop.
They should be the ones who set the date/time and everyone else has to fit
in with it or not. It doesn't matter which time/day is picked there will be
people who can't make it and will say so. Some of the I can't make it then
people wouldn't be able to make it if you held it in their front room with
free coke and hookers while they were on a tag.

On 1 December 2014 at 14:24, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> So we are doing this! It's great so many people are interested in
> getting involved. I was thinking venue was going to be biggest hurdle,
> but looks like we have options. This excellent well done everyone.
>
>
> We seem to have people of all levels and varying backgrounds which
> should be good. Like the real world some problems will have simple
> solutions and other will be more complex so there will be something for
> all abilities(Even people who have never programmed).
>
>
> Shall we aim for a once every two weeks meet?
> Is there any preference for times and days? Or times and days you don't
> want?
> How long should we make each session?
>
>
> Mark/Douglas/Paul
>
> Depending on numbers of people who wish to attend we could perhaps
> rotate around venues based on availability so we spread the load? Shall
> we try and pick a date and time for the 1st event?
>
> Cheers
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 15:38:17 -0000
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I don't think anyone is in charge yet? The reason I asked is there might
be a few people who are interested but find difficult or impossible on
some days, for perfectly valid reasons. Clearly the venue providers have
the main say. Appologies if I seem to suggest otherwise. 

________________________________

From: Edinburgh
[mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On
Behalf Of dgm
Sent: 01 December 2014 15:16
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh


The only people who have an input into which days the workshop runs are
Fanduel/venue provider and the person who is in charge of the workshop.
They should be the ones who set the date/time and everyone else has to
fit in with it or not. It doesn't matter which time/day is picked there
will be people who can't make it and will say so. Some of the I can't
make it then people wouldn't be able to make it if you held it in their
front room with free coke and hookers while they were on a tag.

On 1 December 2014 at 14:24, Bald, Glenn
<Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:


	Hello Everyone,
	
	So we are doing this! It's great so many people are interested
in
	getting involved. I was thinking venue was going to be biggest
hurdle,
	but looks like we have options. This excellent well done
everyone.
	
	
	We seem to have people of all levels and varying backgrounds
which
	should be good. Like the real world some problems will have
simple
	solutions and other will be more complex so there will be
something for
	all abilities(Even people who have never programmed).
	
	
	Shall we aim for a once every two weeks meet?
	Is there any preference for times and days? Or times and days
you don't
	want?
	How long should we make each session?
	
	
	Mark/Douglas/Paul
	
	Depending on numbers of people who wish to attend we could
perhaps
	rotate around venues based on availability so we spread the
load? Shall
	we try and pick a date and time for the 1st event?
	
	Cheers
	Glenn
	
	
	
	
	
	
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From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 15:39:24 +0000
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Douglas, I don't think anyone's "in charge" of this yet. It's still just
being organised collectively. Let's see how this pans out.

On 1 December 2014 at 15:15, dgm <dgm at agamik.co.uk> wrote:

> The only people who have an input into which days the workshop runs are
> Fanduel/venue provider and the person who is in charge of the workshop.
> They should be the ones who set the date/time and everyone else has to fit
> in with it or not. It doesn't matter which time/day is picked there will be
> people who can't make it and will say so. Some of the I can't make it then
> people wouldn't be able to make it if you held it in their front room with
> free coke and hookers while they were on a tag.
>
> On 1 December 2014 at 14:24, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> So we are doing this! It's great so many people are interested in
>> getting involved. I was thinking venue was going to be biggest hurdle,
>> but looks like we have options. This excellent well done everyone.
>>
>>
>> We seem to have people of all levels and varying backgrounds which
>> should be good. Like the real world some problems will have simple
>> solutions and other will be more complex so there will be something for
>> all abilities(Even people who have never programmed).
>>
>>
>> Shall we aim for a once every two weeks meet?
>> Is there any preference for times and days? Or times and days you don't
>> want?
>> How long should we make each session?
>>
>>
>> Mark/Douglas/Paul
>>
>> Depending on numbers of people who wish to attend we could perhaps
>> rotate around venues based on availability so we spread the load? Shall
>> we try and pick a date and time for the 1st event?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk  Mon Dec  1 16:52:10 2014
From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 15:52:10 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Wow. Just looked at my calendar, and it turns out I only have the first and
second Tuesday every month where I'm free to go out.

I may have to back out of this (although I'd like to come along on an
intermittent basis). That does not mean FanDuel can't provide space -
pretty certain one of my colleagues would step in.

--Mark
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From rebkwok at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 17:27:26 2014
From: rebkwok at gmail.com (Becky Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 16:27:26 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Sorry for coming to this late...

The Django Girls workshop was this weekend (thanks again to all the people
on this list who help out as coaches).  There were a lot of people there
who would be keen to come to follow up groups where there are mentors
present to help out.  I'm guessing at the moment most would focus on
Django, but potentially other python projects too.  I'd be interested in
coordinating this effort - depending on whether it could be aimed at
beginners as well as those who have experience in other languages and are
looking to gain more in python.

(Also Mark - second Tues of the month is the regular PyLadies meetup...)

Becky


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Mark Smith <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk
> wrote:

> Wow. Just looked at my calendar, and it turns out I only have the first
> and second Tuesday every month where I'm free to go out.
>
> I may have to back out of this (although I'd like to come along on an
> intermittent basis). That does not mean FanDuel can't provide space -
> pretty certain one of my colleagues would step in.
>
> --Mark
>
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From jamesdoig at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 19:02:15 2014
From: jamesdoig at gmail.com (James Doig)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:02:15 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I like Alisdair's "bring your own project" ideas (low prep time for tutors)
... I'm assuming it would be ok for people light on personal projects or
who liked the sound of another persons project could team up?

As Becky said I also imagine there would be a lot of Django project
interest (I know one of my students is keen to learn more and finish her
site so she can help out at future DG's)...  In the spirit of integration
it would be nice to have a common event that brings Python
Edinburgh/DjangoGirls/PyLadies together :)

Any day that does not clash with Python Edinburgh or PyLadies works for me
and I'll see if Hogarth can lend any office space (we're right in the city
centre at Waverly Gate) ... They've been very accommodating in the past
with venues and sponsorship previously.

So do we want to start talking dates for the initial get together? Even if
it's just a meet & greet and getting people set up with github accounts +
python/pip/venv/etc ? ... It's getting close to the festive period and I
imagine people have other commitments that may clash if we don't get a
first date in soon.

James.
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From rebkwok at gmail.com  Mon Dec  1 21:46:37 2014
From: rebkwok at gmail.com (Becky Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:37 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I second the idea of events that include Python Edinburgh, Django Girls and
PyLadies; one of my aims in setting up PyLadies was to encourage more women
to also attend Python Edinburgh events, which hasn't really happened yet.
However, a beginner/learning event would be much approachable for newcomers.

In terms of venues, I imagine CodeBase would also be a good bet - they've
already made a general offer for space for PyLadies workshops.

Bring your own project is a good idea, but total beginners may not have got
far enough to have a project to bring, or to think of one that's realistic
for their current skills level.  It would be useful to pool a list of ideas
for beginners' projects that people could pick from if they don't already
have one. There are a links to a few in the pyladies new coders resources
as a starting point:
https://github.com/PyLadiesEdinburgh/pyladies_guides/blob/master/python_resources_for_new_coders.md

Becky


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:02 PM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:

> I like Alisdair's "bring your own project" ideas (low prep time for
> tutors) ... I'm assuming it would be ok for people light on personal
> projects or who liked the sound of another persons project could team up?
>
> As Becky said I also imagine there would be a lot of Django project
> interest (I know one of my students is keen to learn more and finish her
> site so she can help out at future DG's)...  In the spirit of integration
> it would be nice to have a common event that brings Python
> Edinburgh/DjangoGirls/PyLadies together :)
>
> Any day that does not clash with Python Edinburgh or PyLadies works for me
> and I'll see if Hogarth can lend any office space (we're right in the city
> centre at Waverly Gate) ... They've been very accommodating in the past
> with venues and sponsorship previously.
>
> So do we want to start talking dates for the initial get together? Even if
> it's just a meet & greet and getting people set up with github accounts +
> python/pip/venv/etc ? ... It's getting close to the festive period and I
> imagine people have other commitments that may clash if we don't get a
> first date in soon.
>
> James.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>
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From magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org  Mon Dec  1 22:00:48 2014
From: magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org (Magnus Hagdorn)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:00:48 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 12:06 +0000, Bald, Glenn wrote:
> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like
> to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will
> never get off the ground.
> 

Hi all,
I have run python workshops in the past and would be happy to do so for
this occasion. I have run a scientific visualisation workshop which
really is a basic python intro in which I cover very basic language
features, I/O and simple plotting which should be enough to replace most
excel spreadsheets. The second course focuses on object oriented
programming which is a lot more theoretical and covers inheritance,
special methods and writing your own types to do useful stuff. The first
workshop assumes no prior knowledge, the second one does assume some
basic familiarity with python and a general idea what programming is
about (loops, functions, etc). Both workshops take about half a day
each. As I said, I'd be happy to run the courses again. The main
question is one of time - I suspect it would have to be a Saturday
afternoon or maybe on a couple of evenings. I'd also need some helpers
who would help with the practical bits.

Cheers
magi


From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec  1 22:35:07 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 21:35:07 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Evenings and weekends are best for me anyway ; I am happy to be a helper if
it doesn't require knowledge of more than basic Python.
On 1 Dec 2014 21:24, "Magnus Hagdorn" <magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 12:06 +0000, Bald, Glenn wrote:
> > Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like
> > to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will
> > never get off the ground.
> >
>
> Hi all,
> I have run python workshops in the past and would be happy to do so for
> this occasion. I have run a scientific visualisation workshop which
> really is a basic python intro in which I cover very basic language
> features, I/O and simple plotting which should be enough to replace most
> excel spreadsheets. The second course focuses on object oriented
> programming which is a lot more theoretical and covers inheritance,
> special methods and writing your own types to do useful stuff. The first
> workshop assumes no prior knowledge, the second one does assume some
> basic familiarity with python and a general idea what programming is
> about (loops, functions, etc). Both workshops take about half a day
> each. As I said, I'd be happy to run the courses again. The main
> question is one of time - I suspect it would have to be a Saturday
> afternoon or maybe on a couple of evenings. I'd also need some helpers
> who would help with the practical bits.
>
> Cheers
> magi
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>
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From Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk  Tue Dec  2 11:00:31 2014
From: Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk (Bald, Glenn)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:00:31 -0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Great so it looks like everyone is in general agreement. Shall we put a
plan together and go for a start in early January?
 
I think we are all in agree that this event HAS to be suitable for
complete beginers and for people who only do a little programming. 
 
We all seem to like the idea of bring-a project model? But we can see
some potential issues if projects are overlly complex? I would like to
suggest we create a list of projects then we try and put them in order
of complexity? So we start of with more managable ones. Then perhaps
move onto more complex ones depending on how people felt. We can also
try to break anything complex down into simplier exersises? So we would
be doing a sort of 'bring-a-project' but you have to add you project to
the list?
 
 
Could the people who have kindly volunteered venues suggest a couple of
dates that would be best for them? Looks likes we should avoid the 2nd
Saturday in the Month and whenever the pub meet is.  Shall we try and
arrange 2 dates per month?
 
I am just keeping the ball rolling feel free to push or change
direction.
 
Cheers
Glenn
 
 
 
 
 
 


________________________________

From: Edinburgh
[mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On
Behalf Of Douglas Houston
Sent: 01 December 2014 21:35
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh



Evenings and weekends are best for me anyway ; I am happy to be a helper
if it doesn't require knowledge of more than basic Python. 

On 1 Dec 2014 21:24, "Magnus Hagdorn" <magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org>
wrote:


	On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 12:06 +0000, Bald, Glenn wrote:
	> Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor?
Anyone like
	> to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or
this will
	> never get off the ground.
	>
	
	Hi all,
	I have run python workshops in the past and would be happy to do
so for
	this occasion. I have run a scientific visualisation workshop
which
	really is a basic python intro in which I cover very basic
language
	features, I/O and simple plotting which should be enough to
replace most
	excel spreadsheets. The second course focuses on object oriented
	programming which is a lot more theoretical and covers
inheritance,
	special methods and writing your own types to do useful stuff.
The first
	workshop assumes no prior knowledge, the second one does assume
some
	basic familiarity with python and a general idea what
programming is
	about (loops, functions, etc). Both workshops take about half a
day
	each. As I said, I'd be happy to run the courses again. The main
	question is one of time - I suspect it would have to be a
Saturday
	afternoon or maybe on a couple of evenings. I'd also need some
helpers
	who would help with the practical bits.
	
	Cheers
	magi
	
	_______________________________________________
	Edinburgh mailing list
	Edinburgh at python.org
	https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
	


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From jamesdoig at gmail.com  Tue Dec  2 12:47:30 2014
From: jamesdoig at gmail.com (James Doig)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 11:47:30 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Looks like we've got a great response from potential mentors:
(Is this list correct? did I miss anyone? or add someone I wasn't meant to?)
Alisdair T.
Miles G.
John S.
Becky S.
Magnus H.
Douglas H.
Xavier O.
Mark S.(maybe? sometimes?)
James D.

So I guess we now need:

1) A date (the next 2 weeks or early Jan' suits me)... Meet & greet, get
into teams, get peoples laptops set up for collaborative coding, etc.
2) Students ... Lets go and drum up some interest outside of this mailing
list. When we know how many students we have and how much tuition they
would like we can divide up the mentoring resource accordingly.

Would someone like to shout out a suitable date to kick off discussion on
point number 1? Some time i the second or first week of January?


On 2 December 2014 at 10:00, Bald, Glenn <Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
wrote:

>  Great so it looks like everyone is in general agreement. Shall we put a
> plan together and go for a start in early January?
>
> I think we are all in agree that this event HAS to be suitable for
> complete beginers and for people who only do a little programming.
>
> We all seem to like the idea of bring-a project model? But we can see some
> potential issues if projects are overlly complex? I would like to suggest
> we create a list of projects then we try and put them in order of
> complexity? So we start of with more managable ones. Then perhaps move onto
> more complex ones depending on how people felt. We can also try to break
> anything complex down into simplier exersises? So we would be doing a sort
> of 'bring-a-project' but you have to add you project to the list?
>
>
> Could the people who have kindly volunteered venues suggest a couple of
> dates that would be best for them? Looks likes we should avoid the 2nd
> Saturday in the Month and whenever the pub meet is.  Shall we try and
> arrange 2 dates per month?
>
> I am just keeping the ball rolling feel free to push or change direction.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Edinburgh [mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=
> forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Houston
> *Sent:* 01 December 2014 21:35
> *To:* Python Edinburgh
> *Subject:* Re: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
>
>  Evenings and weekends are best for me anyway ; I am happy to be a helper
> if it doesn't require knowledge of more than basic Python.
> On 1 Dec 2014 21:24, "Magnus Hagdorn" <magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 12:06 +0000, Bald, Glenn wrote:
>> > Who is interested in coming either to learn or to mentor? Anyone like
>> > to take the lead and organise or help organise? Do be shy or this will
>> > never get off the ground.
>> >
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have run python workshops in the past and would be happy to do so for
>> this occasion. I have run a scientific visualisation workshop which
>> really is a basic python intro in which I cover very basic language
>> features, I/O and simple plotting which should be enough to replace most
>> excel spreadsheets. The second course focuses on object oriented
>> programming which is a lot more theoretical and covers inheritance,
>> special methods and writing your own types to do useful stuff. The first
>> workshop assumes no prior knowledge, the second one does assume some
>> basic familiarity with python and a general idea what programming is
>> about (loops, functions, etc). Both workshops take about half a day
>> each. As I said, I'd be happy to run the courses again. The main
>> question is one of time - I suspect it would have to be a Saturday
>> afternoon or maybe on a couple of evenings. I'd also need some helpers
>> who would help with the practical bits.
>>
>> Cheers
>> magi
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From snhmnd at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 11:54:57 2014
From: snhmnd at gmail.com (Sean Hammond)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:54:57 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
to get involved in.

I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
don't think that'll matter for mentoring.

I'll keep an eye on this list

From jamesdoig at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 12:32:33 2014
From: jamesdoig at gmail.com (James Doig)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:32:33 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate office
(same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's nice and
central and above the train station :)

On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
> to get involved in.
>
> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>
> I'll keep an eye on this list
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From: anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com (Anna Donohoe)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 14:16:30 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Hello all,

I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about 2015
start dates.
I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
other organisational things though.

Possible dates:
Any time after January 12th.
(The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be traveling
until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
will also be away until then.)

Cheers,
Anna


On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
> nice and central and above the train station :)
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>> to get involved in.
>>
>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>
>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
>
>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Wed Dec  3 20:47:37 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 19:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
How about combining the introductions night with that?

I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.


On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
> 2015 start dates.
> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
> other organisational things though.
>
> Possible dates:
> Any time after January 12th.
> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be traveling
> until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
> will also be away until then.)
>
> Cheers,
> Anna
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>
>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>> to get involved in.
>>>
>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>
>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Sat Dec  6 18:06:35 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 17:06:35 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Here's the room I was thinking of using, if we're going for evenings or
weekends:

http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/student-administration/timetabling/bookable-rooms?cw_xml=room/0201_01_1.03

I've provisionally booked it for 12th Jan 1900-2100 - is two hours enough?

If this doesn't suit or better times/dates are wanted let me know and I'll
change it.

On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
> session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
> meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
> How about combining the introductions night with that?
>
> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>> 2015 start dates.
>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
>> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
>> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>> other organisational things though.
>>
>> Possible dates:
>> Any time after January 12th.
>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be traveling
>> until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
>> will also be away until then.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>
>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
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From pcolrain at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  7 15:50:20 2014
From: pcolrain at yahoo.com (paul colrain)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 14:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Edinburgh Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12
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hi everyonein january, i can only make week of 15th. and in feb i cannot make 1st week, but go ahead and i'll catch up next time.Paul 

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Here's the room I was thinking of using, if we're going for evenings or
weekends:

http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/student-administration/timetabling/bookable-rooms?cw_xml=room/0201_01_1.03

I've provisionally booked it for 12th Jan 1900-2100 - is two hours enough?

If this doesn't suit or better times/dates are wanted let me know and I'll
change it.

On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
> session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
> meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
> How about combining the introductions night with that?
>
> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>> 2015 start dates.
>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
>> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
>> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>> other organisational things though.
>>
>> Possible dates:
>> Any time after January 12th.
>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be traveling
>> until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
>> will also be away until then.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>
>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec  8 23:01:29 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:01:29 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Edinburgh Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12
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I've set up a Doodle poll to try to gauge what the most popular day of the
week might be, so please fill it in if you are at all interested in coming:

http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9

It should also give us a more solid indication of numbers.


On 7 December 2014 at 14:50, paul colrain <pcolrain at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
wrote:

> hi everyone
> in january, i can only make week of 15th. and in feb i cannot make 1st
> week, but go ahead and i'll catch up next time.
> Paul
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> To: Python Edinburgh <edinburgh at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group
>     Edinburgh
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> Here's the room I was thinking of using, if we're going for evenings or
> weekends:
>
>
> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/student-administration/timetabling/bookable-rooms?cw_xml=room/0201_01_1.03
>
> I've provisionally booked it for 12th Jan 1900-2100 - is two hours enough?
>
> If this doesn't suit or better times/dates are wanted let me know and I'll
> change it.
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
> > session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could
> just
> > meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
> > How about combining the introductions night with that?
> >
> > I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
> > other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would
> be
> > great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
> >
> >
> > On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
> >> 2015 start dates.
> >> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
> >> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would
> be
> >> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
> >> other organisational things though.
> >>
> >> Possible dates:
> >> Any time after January 12th.
> >> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
> traveling
> >> until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
> >> will also be away until then.)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Anna
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
> >>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
> >>> nice and central and above the train station :)
> >>>
> >>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
> >>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
> >>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for
> things
> >>>> to get involved in.
> >>>>
> >>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
> >>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Edinburgh mailing list
> >>>> Edinburgh at python.org
> >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
> >>>>
> >>>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Tue Dec  9 12:24:07 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 11:24:07 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVFsoQuaHirS85ZRvWx_PZcheVvXJVSpau29DYJkAoy1VQ@mail.gmail.com>

?15 participants so far, not bad!


On 8 December 2014 at 22:01, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:
I've set up a Doodle poll to try to gauge what the most popular day of the
week might be, so please fill it in if you are at all interested in coming:

http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9

It should also give us a more solid indication of numbers.

On 6 December 2014 at 17:06, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Here's the room I was thinking of using, if we're going for evenings or
> weekends:
>
>
> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/student-administration/timetabling/bookable-rooms?cw_xml=room/0201_01_1.03
>
> I've provisionally booked it for 12th Jan 1900-2100 - is two hours enough?
>
> If this doesn't suit or better times/dates are wanted let me know and I'll
> change it.
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
>> session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
>> meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
>> How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>
>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
>> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
>> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>
>>
>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>>> 2015 start dates.
>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
>>> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
>>> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>> other organisational things though.
>>>
>>> Possible dates:
>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>
>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Thu Dec 11 19:46:34 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:46:34 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVGwNSTL8EPQeo_Fb4=MXTngvGBbJC9diRuKgY1SpwQ5gw@mail.gmail.com>

Will let this run to the end of the week, then declare the winner ...

Brilliant response so far though!



> On 8 December 2014 at 22:01, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I've set up a Doodle poll to try to gauge what the most popular day of the
> week might be, so please fill it in if you are at all interested in coming:
>
> http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9
>
> It should also give us a more solid indication of numbers.
>
> On 6 December 2014 at 17:06, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's the room I was thinking of using, if we're going for evenings or
>> weekends:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/student-administration/timetabling/bookable-rooms?cw_xml=room/0201_01_1.03
>>
>> I've provisionally booked it for 12th Jan 1900-2100 - is two hours enough?
>>
>> If this doesn't suit or better times/dates are wanted let me know and
>> I'll change it.
>>
>> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
>> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one
>>> meet-and-greet session before then which shouldn't require a "proper"
>>> venue? We could just meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python
>>> Edinburgh pub night? How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>>
>>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
>>> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
>>> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>>>> 2015 start dates.
>>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like
>>>> the sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would
>>>> be participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>>> other organisational things though.
>>>>
>>>> Possible dates:
>>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From alina at dev.by  Fri Dec 12 13:33:14 2014
From: alina at dev.by (Alina Dolgikh)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:33:14 +0300
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Call for speakers for the first PyCon Belarus.
	Edinburgh
Message-ID: <CADCAYj+GDzUce-W+PW0hD12bWTsq56US56Xxvi_w1doGZbbmvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, everyone!

I represent Belarusian Python community. Our community has regular monthly
meet-ups for 70-100 persons and we are going to develop it further.

We are planning to make the first Belarusian PyCon on the 31st of January
and looking for speakers. And also will be happy to meet you among
attendees of the PyCon Belarus.

We will be glad to meet at our event speakers, which are experienced in
public talks (links for videos of public talks or for the other conferences
web-pages are preferable) and can speak at
    - highload in Python
    - functional style Python
    - best practices on popular tools and libraries using
    - data analysis
    - CI, pypy, C-extensions, python performance
    - Python in mobile OS (Tizen for example)
    - etc.

Organising team is ready to cover the costs for the road and accommodation
for interested speakers.

Thanks in advance and, please, send your responses to alina at dev.by

Regards,
Alina Dolgikh,
IT-events manager,
Minsk
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From mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk  Fri Dec 12 15:10:07 2014
From: mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:10:07 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Sorry for not replying sooner - the next Python Edinburgh pub night is on
27th January. We don't have a December meetup because it tends to conflict
with Christmas, and we wouldn't want Christmas to suffer ;-)

On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
> session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
> meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
> How about combining the introductions night with that?
>
> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>> 2015 start dates.
>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
>> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
>> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>> other organisational things though.
>>
>> Possible dates:
>> Any time after January 12th.
>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be traveling
>> until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other students
>> will also be away until then.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>
>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From joseph at fanduel.com  Sat Dec 13 11:45:42 2014
From: joseph at fanduel.com (Joseph Fox)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:45:42 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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There are so much happening here. I would like to come as a learner.

On 12 December 2014 at 14:10, Mark Smith <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> Sorry for not replying sooner - the next Python Edinburgh pub night is on
> 27th January. We don't have a December meetup because it tends to conflict
> with Christmas, and we wouldn't want Christmas to suffer ;-)
>
> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one meet-and-greet
>> session before then which shouldn't require a "proper" venue? We could just
>> meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python Edinburgh pub night?
>> How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>
>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
>> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
>> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>
>>
>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>>> 2015 start dates.
>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like the
>>> sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would be
>>> participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>> other organisational things though.
>>>
>>> Possible dates:
>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>
>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for things
>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:00:39 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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All are welcome Joseph - just enter your scheduling preferences in the
Doodle poll:

http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9


On 13 December 2014 at 10:45, Joseph Fox <joseph at fanduel.com> wrote:
>
> There are so much happening here. I would like to come as a learner.
>
> On 12 December 2014 at 14:10, Mark Smith <mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk
> > wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for not replying sooner - the next Python Edinburgh pub night is on
>> 27th January. We don't have a December meetup because it tends to conflict
>> with Christmas, and we wouldn't want Christmas to suffer ;-)
>>
>> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
>> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one
>>> meet-and-greet session before then which shouldn't require a "proper"
>>> venue? We could just meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python
>>> Edinburgh pub night? How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>>
>>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
>>> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
>>> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>>>> 2015 start dates.
>>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like
>>>> the sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would
>>>> be participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>>> other organisational things though.
>>>>
>>>> Possible dates:
>>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>
>>>
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>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Sat Dec 13 16:23:01 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:23:01 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
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Also think about a problem you'd like to solve using Python, Joseph.

For those of you who have tablets, smartphones, kindles etc, I've found a
couple of eBooks that could be useful for reference during the workshops:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3IbJv_UNHlWZ0dsNU9MRjFnQmM/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3IbJv_UNHlWMjdoT01FSXh6ZG8/view?usp=sharing

Feel free to bring along any "how to program"-type books you might have
too, or anything else you think might end up useful.


On 13 December 2014 at 15:00, Douglas Houston <
douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> All are welcome Joseph - just enter your scheduling preferences in the
> Doodle poll:
>
> http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9
>
>
> On 13 December 2014 at 10:45, Joseph Fox <joseph at fanduel.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are so much happening here. I would like to come as a learner.
>>
>> On 12 December 2014 at 14:10, Mark Smith <
>> mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for not replying sooner - the next Python Edinburgh pub night is
>>> on 27th January. We don't have a December meetup because it tends to
>>> conflict with Christmas, and we wouldn't want Christmas to suffer ;-)
>>>
>>> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
>>> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one
>>>> meet-and-greet session before then which shouldn't require a "proper"
>>>> venue? We could just meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python
>>>> Edinburgh pub night? How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>>>
>>>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so if
>>>> other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would be
>>>> great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea about
>>>>> 2015 start dates.
>>>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like
>>>>> the sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would
>>>>> be participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>>>> other organisational things though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible dates:
>>>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach Java
>>>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev for
>>>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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>>>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Tue Dec 16 10:53:07 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:53:07 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python Workshop/Support group Edinburgh
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVEmKUfXfSeFzissSuKWQzeUNo=-KYta4O_ezd6Cc-ZHyg@mail.gmail.com>

OK, it looks like after all that Monday nights are the favourite after all.

See you at Appleton Tower at 1900 on the 12th!

On 13 December 2014 at 15:23, Douglas Houston <
douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Also think about a problem you'd like to solve using Python, Joseph.
>
> For those of you who have tablets, smartphones, kindles etc, I've found a
> couple of eBooks that could be useful for reference during the workshops:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3IbJv_UNHlWZ0dsNU9MRjFnQmM/view?usp=sharing
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3IbJv_UNHlWMjdoT01FSXh6ZG8/view?usp=sharing
>
> Feel free to bring along any "how to program"-type books you might have
> too, or anything else you think might end up useful.
>
>
> On 13 December 2014 at 15:00, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> All are welcome Joseph - just enter your scheduling preferences in the
>> Doodle poll:
>>
>> http://doodle.com/nbib2wa28np9r2a9
>>
>>
>> On 13 December 2014 at 10:45, Joseph Fox <joseph at fanduel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are so much happening here. I would like to come as a learner.
>>>
>>> On 12 December 2014 at 14:10, Mark Smith <
>>> mark.smith at practicalpoetry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for not replying sooner - the next Python Edinburgh pub night is
>>>> on 27th January. We don't have a December meetup because it tends to
>>>> conflict with Christmas, and we wouldn't want Christmas to suffer ;-)
>>>>
>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 19:47, Douglas Houston <
>>>> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 12th Jan onwards is fine for me - although we could do one
>>>>> meet-and-greet session before then which shouldn't require a "proper"
>>>>> venue? We could just meet in a pub or something - when is the next Python
>>>>> Edinburgh pub night? How about combining the introductions night with that?
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to check what days the computer lab I have in mind is free so
>>>>> if other venue operators could chip in first with concrete dates that would
>>>>> be great. As mentioned, evenings and weekends seem best for most.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 14:16, Anna Donohoe <anna.donohoe13 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm jumping in on this a bit late, but I wanted to field an idea
>>>>>> about 2015 start dates.
>>>>>> I attended Becky's Django workshop (which was fabulous!), and I like
>>>>>> the sound of the ideas being discussed here. I am new to Python, so I would
>>>>>> be participating as a student. I would be happy to help with logistics or
>>>>>> other organisational things though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possible dates:
>>>>>> Any time after January 12th.
>>>>>> (The spring term at Edinburgh Uni starts on the 12th. I will be
>>>>>> traveling until the weekend of the 10th, and my guess is that many other
>>>>>> students will also be away until then.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, James Doig <jamesdoig at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just been given the thumbs up re: using Hogarth's Waverley Gate
>>>>>>> office (same place the last Dojo was at) if we want to as well.... It's
>>>>>>> nice and central and above the train station :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 December 2014 at 10:54, Sean Hammond <snhmnd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm also interested in coming along as a mentor. I used to teach
>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>> programming at the uni, and have been working as a Python web dev
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the last few years. Just moved back to Edinburgh and looking for
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> to get involved in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't bring a laptop - I can't use them because of RSI. But that I
>>>>>>>> don't think that'll matter for mentoring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll keep an eye on this list
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edinburgh mailing list
>>> Edinburgh at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec 22 09:00:45 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:00:45 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVEsGq2o3OQYPiAZ1ysuDecwgH6HKVsgEJ=tik+9JyLO6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have this book?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793

I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've
signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.


Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
should I use R?

My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely to
have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time
soon, so I have to make a decision.

The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
should just roll with that?

Any one have any advice?
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec 22 09:01:46 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:01:46 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, forgot the Coursera details:

http://i.imgur.com/joL2LdF.jpg

On 22 December 2014 at 08:00, Douglas Houston <
douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have this book?
>
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793
>
> I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
> with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
> machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've
> signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
>
>
> Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
> should I use R?
>
> My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely
> to have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time
> soon, so I have to make a decision.
>
> The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
> should just roll with that?
>
> Any one have any advice?
>
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From rmschne at rmschneider.com  Mon Dec 22 09:07:53 2014
From: rmschne at rmschneider.com (Rob Schneider)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:07:53 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
In-Reply-To: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>

Have this book (electronic version) and used it a lot. It's really about Pandas (http://pandas.pydata.org) which is to me very interesting.

There are lots of web articles you can find of R vs. Pandas vs. Python and all that.

For me, bottom line, is that I can plug in Pandas to the large Python app I work with and use Pandas/Matplotlib to do a small bit of number crunching with it ... rather than struggle to learn and integrate R.  As I see what Pandas can do I'll only use more of it as time moves on.

--rms


On 22 Dec 2014, at 08:01, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, forgot the Coursera details:
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/joL2LdF.jpg
> 
> On 22 December 2014 at 08:00, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have this book?
> 
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793
> 
> I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
> 
> 
> Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or should I use R?
> 
> My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely to have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time soon, so I have to make a decision.
> 
> The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I should just roll with that?
> 
> Any one have any advice?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh


From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec 22 11:16:35 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:16:35 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
In-Reply-To: <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>
References: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVFR3AkK65ZCfsJqHFDAR+sMQ2MPs7787B5rzUGROJT4eg@mail.gmail.com>

Oh no, not come across Pandas before, I'll add it to the list (sigh)...

You're right about learning R being a struggle by the way.

On 22 December 2014 at 08:07, Rob Schneider <rmschne at rmschneider.com> wrote:

> Have this book (electronic version) and used it a lot. It's really about
> Pandas (http://pandas.pydata.org) which is to me very interesting.
>
> There are lots of web articles you can find of R vs. Pandas vs. Python and
> all that.
>
> For me, bottom line, is that I can plug in Pandas to the large Python app
> I work with and use Pandas/Matplotlib to do a small bit of number crunching
> with it ... rather than struggle to learn and integrate R.  As I see what
> Pandas can do I'll only use more of it as time moves on.
>
> --rms
>
>
> On 22 Dec 2014, at 08:01, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, forgot the Coursera details:
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/joL2LdF.jpg
> >
> > On 22 December 2014 at 08:00, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have this book?
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793
> >
> > I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
> with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
> machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've
> signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
> >
> >
> > Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
> should I use R?
> >
> > My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely
> to have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time
> soon, so I have to make a decision.
> >
> > The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
> should just roll with that?
> >
> > Any one have any advice?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Edinburgh mailing list
> > Edinburgh at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>
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From douglasrhouston at googlemail.com  Mon Dec 22 12:05:10 2014
From: douglasrhouston at googlemail.com (Douglas Houston)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:05:10 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
In-Reply-To: <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>
References: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>
Message-ID: <CAKaXSVH1MPjDOKY-qBri-a0nDO4Xoyw2Ojgx=kHm4T0T1zTnWA@mail.gmail.com>

Also if anyone does any machine learning please feel free to recommend me a
book (for beginners) on that, too ...

On 22 December 2014 at 08:07, Rob Schneider <rmschne at rmschneider.com> wrote:

> Have this book (electronic version) and used it a lot. It's really about
> Pandas (http://pandas.pydata.org) which is to me very interesting.
>
> There are lots of web articles you can find of R vs. Pandas vs. Python and
> all that.
>
> For me, bottom line, is that I can plug in Pandas to the large Python app
> I work with and use Pandas/Matplotlib to do a small bit of number crunching
> with it ... rather than struggle to learn and integrate R.  As I see what
> Pandas can do I'll only use more of it as time moves on.
>
> --rms
>
>
> On 22 Dec 2014, at 08:01, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, forgot the Coursera details:
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/joL2LdF.jpg
> >
> > On 22 December 2014 at 08:00, Douglas Houston <
> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have this book?
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793
> >
> > I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
> with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
> machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've
> signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
> >
> >
> > Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
> should I use R?
> >
> > My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely
> to have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time
> soon, so I have to make a decision.
> >
> > The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
> should just roll with that?
> >
> > Any one have any advice?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Edinburgh mailing list
> > Edinburgh at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
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From m.mineter at ed.ac.uk  Mon Dec 22 12:58:56 2014
From: m.mineter at ed.ac.uk (Mike Mineter)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:58:56 +0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
In-Reply-To: <CAKaXSVFR3AkK65ZCfsJqHFDAR+sMQ2MPs7787B5rzUGROJT4eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKaXSVEpZzTT3uijdBhzC4kxUJcw61Ov-RO95JMrrb_Oi2qBwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <16955019-BADF-4D8E-80A7-40D63656C29E@rmschneider.com>
 <CAKaXSVFR3AkK65ZCfsJqHFDAR+sMQ2MPs7787B5rzUGROJT4eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141222115856.87031otdk6osni5c@www.staffmail.ed.ac.uk>

To comment on the R or Python question....

As in Rob's case, the choice can be less to do with fundamental  
preference for R or Python and more to do with what libraries are  
already available for the kind of work to be done; and with what other  
libraries  I need to work.

A bridge does exist with RPy2 - I've only used that with simple R  
calculations being called from Python but success depended on a)  
having R installed with the necessary shared libraries being built, b)  
the correct version of readline. On one machine it worked easily; on  
another I decided just to translate small R functions to python  
instead of fighting the installations to get RPy2 to go.

Mike



Quoting Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> on Mon, 22  
Dec 2014 10:16:35 +0000:

> Oh no, not come across Pandas before, I'll add it to the list (sigh)...
>
> You're right about learning R being a struggle by the way.
>
> On 22 December 2014 at 08:07, Rob Schneider <rmschne at rmschneider.com> wrote:
>
>> Have this book (electronic version) and used it a lot. It's really about
>> Pandas (http://pandas.pydata.org) which is to me very interesting.
>>
>> There are lots of web articles you can find of R vs. Pandas vs. Python and
>> all that.
>>
>> For me, bottom line, is that I can plug in Pandas to the large Python app
>> I work with and use Pandas/Matplotlib to do a small bit of number crunching
>> with it ... rather than struggle to learn and integrate R.  As I see what
>> Pandas can do I'll only use more of it as time moves on.
>>
>> --rms
>>
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2014, at 08:01, Douglas Houston <douglasrhouston at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, forgot the Coursera details:
>> >
>> > http://i.imgur.com/joL2LdF.jpg
>> >
>> > On 22 December 2014 at 08:00, Douglas Houston <
>> douglasrhouston at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Does anyone have this book?
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Data-Analysis-Wrangling-IPython/dp/1449319793
>> >
>> > I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
>> with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
>> machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses I've
>> signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
>> >
>> >
>> > Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
>> should I use R?
>> >
>> > My R and Python skills are probably on a par right now, but I'm unlikely
>> to have the time to get properly fluent in both at the same time any time
>> soon, so I have to make a decision.
>> >
>> > The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
>> should just roll with that?
>> >
>> > Any one have any advice?
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Edinburgh mailing list
>> > Edinburgh at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Edinburgh mailing list
>> Edinburgh at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>>
>



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From alisdair at tullo.me.uk  Mon Dec 22 17:18:29 2014
From: alisdair at tullo.me.uk (Alisdair Tullo)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:18:29 -0000
Subject: [Python Edinburgh] Python for Data Analysis?
In-Reply-To: <CAKaXSVEsGq2o3OQYPiAZ1ysuDecwgH6HKVsgEJ=tik+9JyLO6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKaXSVEsGq2o3OQYPiAZ1ysuDecwgH6HKVsgEJ=tik+9JyLO6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <756b85d40078d37229bfbf4f477f5064.squirrel@shcp08.hosting.zen.net.uk>

Hi,

On Mon, December 22, 2014 8:00 am, Douglas Houston wrote:
> I'm thinking about my planned future use of Python and what I want to do
> with it.  I'm looking to get into data science and using it to train
> machine learning algorithms. The following shows the Coursera courses
> I've signed up to (10 in total) to learn how to do this.
>
>
> Should I use Python (in which case a book like this looks useful), or
> should I use R?

I haven't delved into the R tools available, but at PyData the prevailing
view seemed to be that the scikit-learn module is about as good as it gets
in terms of freely available software for machine learning. (Of course,
this was a meeting dedicated to Python!)

> The Data Science Coursera course is focussed solely on R, so perhaps I
> should just roll with that?

Certainly -- and even if you decide to go with Python the rest of the
time, it will teach you the relevant mathematical techniques and when they
can be applied which is really the core of the matter. pandas was already
mentioned, the pandas DataFrame structure is pretty much the same as an R
data frame, although the syntax is different.

If you're looking to install the Python science stack I'd recommend the
Anaconda distribution:

http://www.continuum.io/downloads

Good Luck

Alisdair

> Any one have any advice?
> _______________________________________________
> Edinburgh mailing list
> Edinburgh at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh
>
>