From julien at palard.fr  Fri Oct 16 12:18:56 2020
From: julien at palard.fr (Julien Palard)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:18:56 +0000
Subject: [Doc-SIG] Broken link on documentation header
In-Reply-To: <CAN_7T0+iiLLGZJ_EHTbmpkpE85AzDmEvY0am_9qGwWnB4+fCDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN_7T0+iiLLGZJ_EHTbmpkpE85AzDmEvY0am_9qGwWnB4+fCDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c623726-b243-6c74-03a3-ccf682b83cd1@palard.fr>

On 9/11/20 3:20 PM, tomo cocoa wrote:
> Hi Julien,
> perhaps can you understand the reasons that the link "Documentation" on 
> the head of the top page leads 404 pages?

Oh, nice spot.

I just fixed it, in c23b401425a47b9c8eaa9626701ba6b9b50531f7 in 
docsbuild-scripts. But I'll need a build to show up (max 24h).

Thanks!

Bests,
-- 
[Julien Palard](https://mdk.fr)


From julien at palard.fr  Fri Oct 16 12:21:18 2020
From: julien at palard.fr (Julien Palard)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:21:18 +0000
Subject: [Doc-SIG] PEP257 Suggestion : semicolons use for attribute
 docstrings
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKgJVQnpkD6q-xPsYySiOK89tUHmG-O2npJi3+toq9hS87w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJowKgJVQnpkD6q-xPsYySiOK89tUHmG-O2npJi3+toq9hS87w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ba4d5f2e-d670-114d-d698-65f10d12208f@palard.fr>

o/

On 9/11/20 9:18 PM, Erik Aronesty wrote:
> 
> I wasn't sure where to post this, maybe a mailing list?

Hi! Thanks for sharing your idea.

As it didn't get any ears here, you may try python-ideas.

Bests,
-- 
[Julien Palard](https://mdk.fr)


From cocoatomo77 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 09:09:55 2020
From: cocoatomo77 at gmail.com (tomo cocoa)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:09:55 +0900
Subject: [Doc-SIG] Broken link on documentation header
In-Reply-To: <4c623726-b243-6c74-03a3-ccf682b83cd1@palard.fr>
References: <CAN_7T0+iiLLGZJ_EHTbmpkpE85AzDmEvY0am_9qGwWnB4+fCDA@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c623726-b243-6c74-03a3-ccf682b83cd1@palard.fr>
Message-ID: <CAN_7T0JDoEuicb8+0bXSJ6E3V9EZH8VKsBniAJSKWmNrnPADuA@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome, thanks!

Your fixing resolved the https://bugs.python.org/issue41812.

Very very thankful!

Best
Regard.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:19 Julien Palard <julien at palard.fr> wrote:

> On 9/11/20 3:20 PM, tomo cocoa wrote:
> > Hi Julien,
> > perhaps can you understand the reasons that the link "Documentation" on
> > the head of the top page leads 404 pages?
>
> Oh, nice spot.
>
> I just fixed it, in c23b401425a47b9c8eaa9626701ba6b9b50531f7 in
> docsbuild-scripts. But I'll need a build to show up (max 24h).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bests,
> --
> [Julien Palard](https://mdk.fr)
>
>
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From maciej.olko at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 19:22:22 2020
From: maciej.olko at gmail.com (Maciek Olko)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:22:22 +0100
Subject: [Doc-SIG] Getting translations from pootle.python.org
Message-ID: <CALYYG80imoHcbCZLofKcOiqpKjavRZq7Ki2qsxZG_y9DQ999-w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
according to WebArchive, pootle.python.org hosted Polish translation of
documentation finished in 12% for Python 3 [1]. This Pootle instance was
shut down in early 2012 [2]. It would be great to get access to those
resources and maybe be able to upload this translation as translation
memory for recent versions of documentation.

Do you have an idea if there is some kind of back-up of work done on
Pootle? Who could I contact further to ask?

There's no information about back-up in issue tracing the disabling of
Python Pootle. [2]

Kind regards,
Maciej Olko

[1]
https://web.archive.org/web/20131226143301/http://pootle.python.org/pootle
[2] https://bugs.python.org/issue13663
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From ewdurbin at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 08:39:34 2020
From: ewdurbin at gmail.com (Ernest W. Durbin III)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 05:39:34 -0700
Subject: [Doc-SIG] Fwd:  Getting translations from pootle.python.org
In-Reply-To: <7ce51a5a-68d4-c602-9e45-5da2a862250d@palard.fr>
References: <CALYYG80imoHcbCZLofKcOiqpKjavRZq7Ki2qsxZG_y9DQ999-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <7ce51a5a-68d4-c602-9e45-5da2a862250d@palard.fr>
Message-ID: <CAD1Aak1ve2=cFbpAj9V4VuT2VjSk_LiTm2e2O+oUE2sAZT15Cw@mail.gmail.com>

All the PO files I could find are available in a tarball at
https://legacy.python.org/pootle-pos.tgz
<http://legacy.python.org/pootle-pos.tgz>

See below signature for the README regarding pootle. Seems it was an
abandoned Google Summer of Code project.

If anything beyond the POs are necessary please let me know and I can grab
it for you.

-Ernest W. Durbin III

This is the python.org instance of Pootle reachable from pootle.python.org.
It
has been set up as part of the Google Summer of Code by Robert Lehmann with
Martin von Loewis. Pootle runs via Apache's mod_wsgi (cf. pootle/wsgi.py).

IF ANYTHING BREAKS, PLEASE CONTACT GSOC at ROBERTLEHMANN.DE.

Directory structure:
+ sphinx-i18n: Sphinx fork with internationalization features
+ pootle: Pootle fork
+ translate: Translate Toolkit fork
+ Doc: checkout of py3k documentation with locale_dirs set to `mo' and
  `sphinx.ext.oldcmarkup' loaded
+ newsphinx: virtual environment with sphinx-i18n installed
+ locale: exchange directory for Pootle and Sphinx; contains one directory
per
  project, and one directory per language in turn (with .POT files ending
up in
  templates/).
+ mo: stored MO files for individual languages in a folder called
LC_MESSAGES
for compatibility with gettext.
+ html: localized HTML builds of the py3k documentation
+ migr: artifacts of the conversion from SQLite to Postgres

Previously, the default Apache user (`nobody') needed access to the locale/
and
pootle/dbs/ directories for Pootle to run smoothly.  Apache WSGI now drops
into
user `pootle' correctly.

Scripts:
+ update-mo: build MO files from locale/python/*/*.po to
mo/*/LC_MESSAGES/*.mo
  (requires msgfmt)
+ update-software: update the checkouts and install packages where
neccessary
  (in virtualenv, requires hg/git)
+ update-templates: build POT files from Doc/ to
locale/python/templates/*.po
  (requires Sphinx with i18n support, automatically updates checkout)
+ update-intl: build HTML docs from locale/ translations and Doc/ sources

Cronjobs:
+ daily at 7pm: update-mo and update-intl (ie. a translated build from
Pootle
  sources) with logging to ~/html/build.log

Security Considerations:
+ Apache runs the WSGI script ~/pootle/wsgi.py as user `pootle' and serves
  ~/pootle/html statically.


-- http://gsoc.robertlehmann.de/

On October 27, 2020 at 8:29:52 PM, Julien Palard (julien at palard.fr) wrote:

Hi Ernest, I'm forwarding this to you as you may know, it's from
doc-sig, maybe reply on the ML if you have info.

Bests.

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Subject: [Doc-SIG] Getting translations from pootle.python.org
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:22:22 +0100
From: Maciek Olko <maciej.olko at gmail.com>
Reply-To: Maciek Olko <maciej.olko at gmail.com>
To: doc-sig at python.org



Hi,
according to WebArchive, pootle.python.org <http://pootle.python.org>
hosted Polish translation of documentation finished in 12% for Python 3
[1]. This Pootle instance was shut down in early 2012 [2]. It would be
great to get access to those resources and maybe be able to upload this
translation as translation memory for recent versions of documentation.

Do you have an idea if there is some kind of back-up of work done on
Pootle? Who could I contact further to ask?

There's no information about back-up in issue tracing the disabling of
Python Pootle. [2]

Kind regards,
Maciej Olko

[1]
https://web.archive.org/web/20131226143301/http://pootle.python.org/pootle
[2] https://bugs.python.org/issue13663
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From maciej.olko at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 13:24:09 2020
From: maciej.olko at gmail.com (Maciek Olko)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:24:09 +0100
Subject: [Doc-SIG] Fwd: Getting translations from pootle.python.org
In-Reply-To: <CAD1Aak1ve2=cFbpAj9V4VuT2VjSk_LiTm2e2O+oUE2sAZT15Cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALYYG80imoHcbCZLofKcOiqpKjavRZq7Ki2qsxZG_y9DQ999-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <7ce51a5a-68d4-c602-9e45-5da2a862250d@palard.fr>
 <CAD1Aak1ve2=cFbpAj9V4VuT2VjSk_LiTm2e2O+oUE2sAZT15Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALYYG83YB=AaB9BVbFFiwyZK4eLYLznULKJa_=skq_uP_Wausg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much! Those POs are of very big value, it's much appreciated.


> If anything beyond the POs are necessary please let me know and I can grab
> it for you.
>

Thank you, I think that's all that's needed.

Regards,
Maciej
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