[Distutils] Ensuring source availability for PyPI entries (was: PEP: Build system abstraction for pip/conda etc)

[Nathaniel Smith]

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> But as I said in my response to Nathaniel, it may be that all that is
>> needed is some context in the PEP explaining how we require[1] people
>> to upload source to PyPI in the new world where we support build
>> systems which don't have a "sdist" command like setuptools does.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> [1] I say "require" in the sense of "you have to follow these rules if
>> pip is to be able to use your source", not "you must upload source" -
>> although I hope that the number of people actually preferring to *not*
>> include source in their PyPI uploads is vanishingly small...
>
> Don't underestimate the number of people who don't wish to put source in
> PyPI. Especially, don't rely merely on hope that such numbers remain
> vanishingly small.
>
> After all, as you may recall from the discussion in 2014 [0], there are
> core Python members who wish PyPI had remained an index only, with
> distributions allowed to have *no* files necessarily hosted at PyPI.
>
> It seems reasonable to infer that their preferences are shared by
> others, and some people would wish to avoid putting source for a
> distribution on PyPI if that were to become easier.
>
>
> [0] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2014-May/024224.html

This may or may not be the case, but it's an argument against allowing
wheels on PyPI, not an argument against a system that makes it
possible for more people to put sdists on PyPI. And it's the latter
that's been under discussion here...

-n

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