[Distutils] cffi & Py_LIMITED_API

[Daniel Holth]

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:01 PM Steve Dower <steve.dower at python.org> wrote:

> On 01Aug2016 0702, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> > On 1 August 2016 at 23:36, Daniel Holth <dholth at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> build_ext command determines
> >> the DLL extension. It could be patched or modified to read an "I'm ABI3"
> >> flag on the Extension() object.
> >>
> >> We could pass an ABI3 flag to bdist_wheel in the same way we ask for
> >> universal 'py2.py3-none-any'. To be set if the wheel contained only ABI3
> >> extensions, and ignored on py2.
> >
> > The general idea sounds good to me, but as a slight bikeshed on the
> > flag name, perhaps "cpabi3"?
> >
> > That's a mash-up of the 'cp' interpreter code for CPython, with the
> > 'abi3' stable ABI tag.
> >
> > Longer term, we may want to allow people to version that (as new APIs
> > may sometimes be added to the stable ABI, which you gain access to at
> > the C level by setting Py_LIMITED_API to the corresponding CPython hex
> > version rather than just defining it [1]), but as a starting point
> > enabling access to the initial 3.2 stable ABI used by cffi should be
> > sufficient.
>
> The DLL tag on Windows will have to just be ".pyd" if you want to
> support back prior to 3.5. In 3.5 you can use ".cp35-win32.pyd" or
> ".cp35-win_amd64.pyd" and the importer will prefer that DLL over a plain
> ".pyd", but my proposal to also support ".cp3-${PLAT}.pyd" here didn't
> make it.
>
> The wheel tag is more important than the DLL tag. (Possibly you're not
> even suggesting changing the DLL name at all and just passing the flag
> through for the build option? Hard to tell from the discussion.)
>

I'm sure we are interpolating from Linux, where you'd be looking at
extensions .cpython-35m-x86_64-linux-gnu.so versus .abi3.so. But any DLL
extension that the target CPythons will agree to load, plus an appropriate
wheel tag, should be sufficient for our use case.
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