[Distutils] b.pypi.python.org

[Brett Cannon]

Pull request sent with the changes to always return a 404 and to shut down
cron.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:31 AM, ken cochrane <kencochrane at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, http://www.pypi-mirrors.org is now reporting b.pypi.python.org as N/A
> which I believe means the DNS propagation is complete. We can move on to
> phase 2 and use Brett's trick to switch to serving 404's for everything for
> a little while (how long?) and then fully turn off the app.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:26 PM, ken cochrane <kencochrane at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> b.pypi.python.org is an official mirror that runs on Google App
>> engine, and it uses a special mirror package built just for GAE. Code for
>> it is found here. https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine
>> >>>>
>> >>>> b.pypi.python.org has been broken for over 104 days according to
>> http://www.pypi-mirrors.org, and this is because of an issue when we
>> switched pypi over to serving over SSL.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have submitted a pull request to fix this.
>> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi-appengine/pull-request/2/change-pypi-mirror-connection-to-https/diff#comment-262919 but it hasn't been accepted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am one of the maintainers of b.pypi.python.org, so I can see the
>> logs and push out a new version.
>> >>>> I haven't needed to push a version out before, and I'm a little
>> hesitant incase I do it wrong and break something.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I also don't want to push code to GAE from my fork, until my PR gets
>> accepted or else someone else in the future might deploy the original one
>> again and remove my fix.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Two things:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Now that we have the pypi CDN up, do we still need this mirror?
>> >>>
>> >>> Honestly probably not. Mirrors are less important from a
>> availability/speed side of things now and will likely move to being more
>> useful for companies and such to use.
>> >>>
>> >>> OK, what would be the procedure for removing a mirror? Anyone know
>> who is in charge of this mirror? I think Guido had it setup when he worked
>> at Google, and google is paying for the costs of the mirror, but  now that
>> he doesn't work for Google, not sure who might be the contact person on
>> that side.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've asked Guido who are admins on the account it to get it turned
>> off. If he doesn't know I can try to find out internally.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Brett,
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is the owner list that I can see on GAE
>> >>>
>> >>> - guido
>> >>> - kencochrane (me)
>> >>> - kumar.mcmillan
>> >>> - martin.v.loewis
>> >>> - r1chardj0n3s
>> >>>
>> >>> So Guido didn't even know he was an owner. =)
>> >>>
>> >>> In terms of shutting down the app, you will want to do two things.
>> First is empty out the cron.yaml file; it should have nothing more than
>> "cron:". After that you probably want to return 404 for everything; see
>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/189935/236574 on how to do that for all URLs.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want, Ken, I can clone
>> https://bitbucket.org/kencochrane/pypi-appengine and send you a pull
>> request to do all of this since I recently did something similar for
>> py3ksupport.appspot.com when I shut it down.
>> >>>
>> >>> Brett,
>> >>>
>> >>> If our goal is to shut it down, then yes please, if you can send a
>> pull request that would be great.. We should also probably remove it from
>> the pypi mirror pool before we do this so it no longer gets traffic sent
>> it's way.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If we can get it up to date again, I think it is fine, but an out of
>> date mirror is not useful to anyone, and it could cause problems in the
>> long run.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. If yes to 1. if someone can take a minute to review my PR, and
>> leave comments, or if you have the power, accept my pull request and push
>> out a new version so we can get the mirror up to date.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't have such permission sadly.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you anyway.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Paging Noah to kill the DNS Unless there's any objections to removing
>> it?
>> >
>> > If no one complains in the next 24-ish hours I'll just point it back at
>> pypi.python.org like we did with d.pypi.
>>
>> This is now complete. In another 24 hours there should be no traffic to
>> the GAE app and it can just be archived or deleted.
>>
>> --Noah
>>
>>
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