[Distutils] PyPI Download Counts

[holger krekel]

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:35 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 10 June 2013 06:04, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:
> > Donald Stufft <donald <at> stufft.io> writes:
> >
> >> So yes. I broke Download counts because they were not more important than
> >> people being able to actually use PyPI to install from.
> >
> >
> > FWIW:
> >
> >
> > You missed the moral of the story: when you make a decision like this,
> > someone will *always* disagree with you (even over the most trivial things).
> > And even if they don't, they may disagree with your approach (e.g. why not
> > sort problems with download counts before enabling the CDN) So the only way
> > to make everyone happy is to consider everyone who will be affected by your
> > actions, before you take action.
> 
> And, indeed, we plan to run future changes of this magnitude through
> the PEP process for exactly this reason. We can't promise not to break
> some features in order to achieve gains we think are worth the loss,
> but we *can* promise not to break such features without advance
> warning and explicit consideration of alternatives that may allow us
> to avoid the breakage in the first place.

Nick, i welcome this intention but could you now and in the future
be explicit about who "we" is?  It's not even obvious to me
and i have written a recent PEP in this area and am following most of
the mails here for a while, also participating in some actions behind
the scene.

thanks,
holger