[Distutils] Setuptools/Distribute error with 0.7.2

[Marcus Smith]

agreed, a quick fix for the upcoming pip-1.4 would be nice. (PEP439 is 1.5
at best)
here's the pip issue for this problem (set for 1.4)
https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/986
I'll discuss options in the issue.
Marcus

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Jason R. Coombs <jaraco at jaraco.com> wrote:

> I think it would be highly desirable to add support for pip to handle the
> upgrade from distribute 0.6 to 0.7. You’ll note that because 0.7 depends on
> setuptools 0.7 that 0.7 has already been downloaded. Perhaps a shim like
> you propose would work, or it’s also conceivable that distribute 0.7 could
> include a setuptools 0.7 source tree which pip could leverage (but not
> install).****
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> Yes, PEP 439 will be awesome, but I think this important milestone for
> setuptools is also essential to simplify the landscape in order to help
> migrate users in a sustainable way to the new tools, so we’ve got to find a
> way to make it happen for the good of the eco system.****
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> *From:* qwelby at gmail.com [mailto:qwelby at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcus
> Smith
> *Sent:* Sunday, 09 June, 2013 17:54
> *To:* Jason R. Coombs
> *Cc:* Liam Kirsher; distutils-sig at python.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Distutils] Setuptools/Distribute error with 0.7.2****
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> It was only working in python2 before now anyway.  (
> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/650)****
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> pip is fundamentally dependent on setuptools to perform upgrades.****
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> with distribute-0.6.X upgrades, even though pip uninstalled distribute as
> part of the upgrade, it ran the install subprocess with the cwd equal to
> the build dir, so it could import setuptools from the unpacked download.**
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> but now,  distribute-0.7 is just a shell, that contains no importable
> setuptools that pip can use.****
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> we could *make* it work I guess, by enforcing non-standard logic when
> dealing with distribute (i.e. get setuptools-0.7 installed first; by
> default, setuptools gets queued to be installed after the distribute
> upgrade)****
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> but like I said before, it's much more motivating to think about PEP439,
> than this dreary setuptools/distribute legacy headache stuff.****
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> Marcus****
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> the best fix I think is to move faster on making pip "PEP439 compliant"***
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>    - i.e. have pip be able to at least install from wheels w/o needing
> setuptools, which would remove the bootstrap headache****
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>    - see https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/863****
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>    - this could likely involve pip replacing it's use of pkg_resources
> with distlib (https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/909)****
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> Marcus   ****
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