[Distutils] Current status of PEP 439 (pip boostrapping)

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Sat Jul 13 08:34:49 CEST 2013


On Jul 13, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Ned Deily <nad at acm.org> wrote:

>> We could simply check it into the site-packages inside the CPython source 
>> tree could we not? *Not* providing a bootstrap script and merely checking it 
>> into the default site-packages means it's available for everyone. No matter 
>> how python installed. If Linux packagers really don't want it installed by 
>> default they could simply just remove it and either install it along with 
>> Python, or continue to keep it how it is today as a separate package?
> 
> This sounds an unnecessary complication.  I suspect that there is a 
> small minority of users who actually build Python from source.  And they 
> should know what they are doing.  I believe most users either use a 
> distribution-provided Python (via their OS) or a third-party package 
> provider (including python.org binary installers and their derivatives).  
> The OS distributors are going to do what they currently do; the only 
> change needed is to persuade them to include their pip package as a 
> mandatory dependency.  Trying to hack the Python source build process to 
> include a copy of pip is just not worth the effort.

Okies, thought it might be simpler :) Doesn't matter to me where in the process it happens at :) I don't install from source. 

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