[Distutils] Colour this bikeshed: Name for setuptools fork

Ben Finney ben+python at benfinney.id.au
Fri Jul 17 11:38:41 CEST 2009


Lennart Regebro <regebro at gmail.com> writes:

> Very good argumentation, except that argument that wee need to
> separate us from setuptools. Normally in an unfriendly fork I would
> disagree. This is however not an unfriendly fork. It's a friendly
> fork, and we do it because we must.

Whether or not the fork is friendly, it is a fork, not a continuation.
Also, there never really was a “setuptools 1”. I think it's only going
to be confusing to call this “setuptools 2”.

> So, while you have arguments for having a good name, I think that in
> the end it's so hard to come up with a good name that you usually have
> to settle for one that is not bad.

Undoubtedly, it's often the case that one must choose the least worst
name that one comes up with, because the best is already taken. But we
can surely do better than “distribute” or “setuptools 2”.

> So, something that is easy to remember, easy to say and doesn't mean
> anything rude in Norwegian. :-)

Greg Ewing <greg.ewing at canterbury.ac.nz> writes:

> Are there any Monty Python sketches that relate to packaging or
> distribution? That's the only way to find names for really *important*
> things in Python.:-)

Nice idea.

Okay, how about: “Red Barrel”.

In Episode 31, the “Travel Agent” sketch features a customer (with a
strange speech impediment) wanting to book a package tour, but he ends
up blathering on endlessly about bad experiences he's had on previous
package tours so the travel agent never actually manages to talk about
their tours <URL:http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/package.htm>.

The customer makes many references to an ale named “Watney's Red Barrel”
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watney_Combe_%26_Reid#Watneys_Red_Barrel>,
to the point that this is the name many people associate with the sketch
itself.

So I propose the name “Red Barrel” as directly suggesting packaging
(barrels), and having the reference to a popular Monty Python sketch —
a sketch about package tours, hence another “package” reference.

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