From ken at marc.com  Wed Jul  1 17:51:56 1998
From: ken at marc.com (Ken Seehof)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:51:56 -0700
Subject: [C++-SIG] GRAD
Message-ID: <359A5B1B.802B1BB6@marc.com>

Does anyone know anything about GRAD?

Is it free?  Where can I download it?  Can I buy it?

If not, is there anything out there better than SWIG for wrapping C++
code?  What about MESS, is it any good?

- Ken

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From donb at zippy.boston.sgi.com  Wed Jul  1 20:00:59 1998
From: donb at zippy.boston.sgi.com (Donald Beaudry)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 14:00:59 -0400
Subject: [C++-SIG] GRAD 
References: <359A5B1B.802B1BB6@marc.com>
Message-ID: <199807011800.OAA13210@zippy.boston.sgi.com>

Ken Seehof <ken at marc.com> wrote,
> If not, is there anything out there better than SWIG for wrapping C++
> code?  What about MESS, is it any good?

I happen to think the MESS is good, but then, I am a bit biased ;) The
MESS, however, isnt directly useful for creating wrappers, at least
not in the same sense that SWIG is.  The MESS does however make
wrapping complex datatypes much more straightforward than doing them
my hand.  I find it quite useful in the output of wrapper generators.
Since there hasnt been much (or any) demand for it, I havnt made a new
release of the MESS in quite a while.  I could be talked into it
though.

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                  ...So much code, so little time...




From beazley at sol.cs.utah.edu  Wed Jul  1 22:56:28 1998
From: beazley at sol.cs.utah.edu (David Beazley)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:56:28 -0600
Subject: [C++-SIG] GRAD 
In-Reply-To: <199807011800.OAA13210@zippy.boston.sgi.com>
References: <359A5B1B.802B1BB6@marc.com>
	<199807011800.OAA13210@zippy.boston.sgi.com>
Message-ID: <199807012056.OAA18251@sol.cs.utah.edu>

Donald Beaudry writes:
 > Ken Seehof <ken at marc.com> wrote,
 > > If not, is there anything out there better than SWIG for wrapping C++
 > > code?  What about MESS, is it any good?
 > 
 > I happen to think the MESS is good, but then, I am a bit biased ;) The
 > MESS, however, isnt directly useful for creating wrappers, at least
 > not in the same sense that SWIG is.  The MESS does however make
 > wrapping complex datatypes much more straightforward than doing them
 > my hand.  I find it quite useful in the output of wrapper generators.
 > Since there hasnt been much (or any) demand for it, I havnt made a new
 > release of the MESS in quite a while.  I could be talked into it
 > though.
 > 

SWIG is undergoing abit of a reorganization these days as well.  When
it's all said and done, it may be possible to have SWIG target
something like MESS or Extension Classes as an alternative to its
current approach.

Cheers,

Dave





From jim.fulton at Digicool.com  Wed Jul  1 23:29:02 1998
From: jim.fulton at Digicool.com (Jim Fulton)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:29:02 -0400
Subject: [C++-SIG] GRAD
References: <359A5B1B.802B1BB6@marc.com>
		<199807011800.OAA13210@zippy.boston.sgi.com> <199807012056.OAA18251@sol.cs.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <359AAA1E.6162@digicool.com>

David Beazley wrote:
> 
> Donald Beaudry writes:
>  > Ken Seehof <ken at marc.com> wrote,
>  > > If not, is there anything out there better than SWIG for wrapping C++
>  > > code?  What about MESS, is it any good?
>  >
>  > I happen to think the MESS is good, but then, I am a bit biased ;) The
>  > MESS, however, isnt directly useful for creating wrappers, at least
>  > not in the same sense that SWIG is.  The MESS does however make
>  > wrapping complex datatypes much more straightforward than doing them
>  > my hand.  I find it quite useful in the output of wrapper generators.
>  > Since there hasnt been much (or any) demand for it, I havnt made a new
>  > release of the MESS in quite a while.  I could be talked into it
>  > though.
>  >
> 
> SWIG is undergoing abit of a reorganization these days as well.  When
> it's all said and done, it may be possible to have SWIG target
> something like MESS or Extension Classes as an alternative to its
> current approach.

That would be very cool.  I'll be happy to help any
way I can with targeting ExtensionClass. :-)

Jim

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