From vicepresident at nzpug.org  Mon Apr  5 09:32:23 2010
From: vicepresident at nzpug.org (Tim Knapp)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:32:23 +1200
Subject: [Conferences] Updating pycon.org page with latest Kiwi PyCon 2010
	dates
Message-ID: <1270452743.2632.16.camel@monty>

Hello,

We have finalised the dates for the next Kiwi PyCon 2010 event so could
someone kindly update the pycon.org page to say:
Kiwi PyCon 2010 will take place on November 20 & 21 in Waitangi, New
Zealand.

More info here: http://nz.pycon.org/

Thanks,
Tim


From goodger at python.org  Wed Apr 14 17:17:53 2010
From: goodger at python.org (David Goodger)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:17:53 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] Updating pycon.org page with latest Kiwi PyCon
	2010 dates
In-Reply-To: <1270452743.2632.16.camel@monty>
References: <1270452743.2632.16.camel@monty>
Message-ID: <p2t4335d2c41004140817g513bf31dn5f296e0996bbd1be@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 03:32, Tim Knapp <vicepresident at nzpug.org> wrote:
> We have finalised the dates for the next Kiwi PyCon 2010 event so could
> someone kindly update the pycon.org page to say:
> Kiwi PyCon 2010 will take place on November 20 & 21 in Waitangi, New
> Zealand.

Done!

-- 
David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger>

From vicepresident at nzpug.org  Wed Apr 14 17:32:58 2010
From: vicepresident at nzpug.org (Tim Knapp)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:32:58 +1200
Subject: [Conferences] Updating pycon.org page with latest Kiwi PyCon
 2010 dates
In-Reply-To: <p2t4335d2c41004140817g513bf31dn5f296e0996bbd1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1270452743.2632.16.camel@monty>
	<p2t4335d2c41004140817g513bf31dn5f296e0996bbd1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1271259178.2794.44.camel@monty>

On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 11:17 -0400, David Goodger wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 03:32, Tim Knapp <vicepresident at nzpug.org> wrote:
> > We have finalised the dates for the next Kiwi PyCon 2010 event so could
> > someone kindly update the pycon.org page to say:
> > Kiwi PyCon 2010 will take place on November 20 & 21 in Waitangi, New
> > Zealand.

Thanks!

> 
> Done!
> 



From liew_beng_keat at rp.sg  Thu Apr 15 08:40:24 2010
From: liew_beng_keat at rp.sg (Liew Beng Keat)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:40:24 +0800
Subject: [Conferences] PyCon APAC - Tutorial + Conference Registration Open
	- NOW!
Message-ID: <70C1A5315505C942A8274FCA16F363AF3A8ABA29BD@STAFFMAIL1.rp.edu.sg>

Hi all

Registration for PyCon Asia Pacific is OPEN!
(Early bird registration - by end April 2010)

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We look forward to seeing you in Singapore!

Sincerely
PyCon APAC Organizing Committee

PS : If you've never been to Singapore, check out : http://www.yoursingapore.com/content/traveller/en/experience.html




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From whykay at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 00:29:07 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:29:07 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
Message-ID: <l2nd228254c1004191529nc28b0d3x88b6daf25d473be3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Python Ireland will be holding our inaugural PyCon Ireland on Saturday 17th
July and Sunday 18th July 2010. It will take place in the heart of Dublin
city, Ireland.

Would you be able to add PyCon Ireland to PyCon's list at pycon.org?

You can find more details at: python.ie/pyconireland

Thanks,

/// Vicky Lee (Organiser)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
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From goodger at python.org  Tue Apr 20 03:08:40 2010
From: goodger at python.org (David Goodger)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:08:40 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <l2nd228254c1004191529nc28b0d3x88b6daf25d473be3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <l2nd228254c1004191529nc28b0d3x88b6daf25d473be3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2g4335d2c41004191808w361f8123pf60b16749d93cee@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 18:29, Vicky Twomey-Lee <whykay at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Python Ireland will be holding our inaugural PyCon Ireland on Saturday 17th
> July and Sunday 18th July 2010. It will take place in the heart of Dublin
> city, Ireland.
> Would you be able to add PyCon Ireland to PyCon's list at pycon.org?
> You can find more details at: python.ie/pyconireland

Done. I also added PyCon Ireland to http://www.python.org/community/workshops/

-- 
David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger>

From whykay at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 12:54:25 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:54:25 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <r2g4335d2c41004191808w361f8123pf60b16749d93cee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <l2nd228254c1004191529nc28b0d3x88b6daf25d473be3@mail.gmail.com> 
	<r2g4335d2c41004191808w361f8123pf60b16749d93cee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <o2id228254c1004200354w4f424de7ze2fc5c7ed1aa9e@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks very much.

Cheers,

/// Vicky

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:08 AM, David Goodger <goodger at python.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 18:29, Vicky Twomey-Lee <whykay at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Python Ireland will be holding our inaugural PyCon Ireland on Saturday
> 17th
> > July and Sunday 18th July 2010. It will take place in the heart of Dublin
> > city, Ireland.
> > Would you be able to add PyCon Ireland to PyCon's list at pycon.org?
> > You can find more details at: python.ie/pyconireland
>
> Done. I also added PyCon Ireland to
> http://www.python.org/community/workshops/
>
> --
> David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger>
>
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From mmueller at python-academy.de  Tue Apr 20 13:14:29 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:14:29 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
Message-ID: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>

Seems to me that it kind of overlaps with EuroPython:

http://www.europython.eu/

Is this intended or accident?

I guess, people would have to decide to attend one of
these conference. I don't know if this a good idea.

Mike

Vicky Twomey-Lee schrieb:
 > Hi All,
 >
 > Python Ireland will be holding our inaugural PyCon Ireland on Saturday
 > 17th July and Sunday 18th July 2010. It will take place in the heart of
 > Dublin city, Ireland.
 >
 > Would you be able to add PyCon Ireland to PyCon's list at pycon.org
 > <http://pycon.org>?
 >
 > You can find more details at: python.ie/pyconireland
 > <http://python.ie/pyconireland>
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > /// Vicky Lee (Organiser)
 >
 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 > ~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
 > ~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 >
 >
 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
 > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
 >
 > This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential 
information should not be discussed here.


From whykay at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 13:30:02 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:30:02 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <m2nd228254c1004200430gbb38724fv8be9bcf6f5d35335@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have asked Europython folks and got a reply with an ok to hold it. We are
holding PyCon Ireland on these dates just prior to Europython as more of a
warm up to them, and an opportunity for folks who are going to EuroPython to
drop by and visit Dublin.

>From chatting to other delegates in last year's EuroPython, seems like
people are interested in visiting Dublin.

Cheers,

/// Vicky

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de>wrote:

> Seems to me that it kind of overlaps with EuroPython:
>
> http://www.europython.eu/
>
> Is this intended or accident?
>
> I guess, people would have to decide to attend one of
> these conference. I don't know if this a good idea.
>
> Mike
>
> Vicky Twomey-Lee schrieb:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Python Ireland will be holding our inaugural PyCon Ireland on Saturday
> > 17th July and Sunday 18th July 2010. It will take place in the heart of
> > Dublin city, Ireland.
> >
> > Would you be able to add PyCon Ireland to PyCon's list at pycon.org
> > <http://pycon.org>?
>
> >
> > You can find more details at: python.ie/pyconireland
> > <http://python.ie/pyconireland>
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > /// Vicky Lee (Organiser)
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > ~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
> > ~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
> >
> > This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential
> information should not be discussed here.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
>
> This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential
> information should not be discussed here.
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 17:15:16 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:15:16 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On 20 April 2010 12:14, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:

> Seems to me that it kind of overlaps with EuroPython:
>
> http://www.europython.eu/
>
> Is this intended or accident?
>
> It's intended in so far as it's known about: as I recall Vicky had problems
in finding another date, and asked if the overlap was OK with us at EP.

On the basis that the Irish event overlaps just the EP tutorials, we thought
it was OK. As Birmingham is just a short hop from Dublin, people can attend
both events quite easily.

I guess, people would have to decide to attend one of
> these conference. I don't know if this a good idea.
>
> Well, it's not a good idea for EP organisers! I'd wanted to go to the
Dublin event, but now I can't :-(

FWIW, 11 people came from Ireland to last year's EP, and 2 of them have
booked for EP2010 so far.

Best wishes,
John
-- 
EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010,
Birmingham, UK
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From carl at personnelware.com  Tue Apr 20 17:27:26 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:27:26 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
	<u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2l549053141004200827i3e5f51bchf625f5de3a26824c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 20 April 2010 12:14, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>>
>> Seems to me that it kind of overlaps with EuroPython:
>>
>> http://www.europython.eu/
>>
>> Is this intended or accident?
>>
> It's intended in so far as it's known about: as I recall Vicky had problems
> in finding another date, and asked if the overlap was OK with us at EP.
>
> On the basis that the Irish event overlaps just the EP tutorials, we thought
> it was OK. As Birmingham is just a short hop from Dublin, people can attend
> both events quite easily.
>
>> I guess, people would have to decide to attend one of
>> these conference. I don't know if this a good idea.
>>
> Well, it's not a good idea for EP organisers! I'd wanted to go to the Dublin
> event, but now I can't :-(
>
> FWIW, 11 people came from Ireland to last year's EP, and 2 of them have
> booked for EP2010 so far.
>

I am guessing there is 0.0 chance of rescheduling.  If so, lets see
how things play out and put some extra effort into gathering
statistics to help plan future events.

-- 
Carl K

From whykay at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 17:35:51 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:35:51 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
	<u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2ud228254c1004200835x8c717886kba2d6fadb34b7e38@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Just to let people know that our intention was not to detract attention away
from EuroPython. We wanted to compliment EuroPython as a "warm-up to" and a
chance to visit Dublin beforehand.

Thanks, John, for your response. It's nice to have your support. Hopefully
when we find our footing this year, we can arrange our next conf date that
is suitable for more people, even you. It sometimes does feel like
organising for wedding. :)

Cheers,

/// Vicky

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:15 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On 20 April 2010 12:14, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that it kind of overlaps with EuroPython:
>>
>> http://www.europython.eu/
>>
>> Is this intended or accident?
>>
>> It's intended in so far as it's known about: as I recall Vicky had
> problems in finding another date, and asked if the overlap was OK with us at
> EP.
>
> On the basis that the Irish event overlaps just the EP tutorials, we
> thought it was OK. As Birmingham is just a short hop from Dublin, people can
> attend both events quite easily.
>
> I guess, people would have to decide to attend one of
>> these conference. I don't know if this a good idea.
>>
>> Well, it's not a good idea for EP organisers! I'd wanted to go to the
> Dublin event, but now I can't :-(
>
> FWIW, 11 people came from Ireland to last year's EP, and 2 of them have
> booked for EP2010 so far.
>
> Best wishes,
> John
> --
> EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010,
> Birmingham, UK
>
> _______________________________________________
> Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
>
> This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential
> information should not be discussed here.
>
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From mmueller at python-academy.de  Tue Apr 20 18:01:56 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:01:56 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Long-term planning of Python events
Message-ID: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>

Hi All,

I am starting a new thread about coordinating of
dates of Python conference, workshops, bar camps
an the like.

A few years ago I organized a Python workshop for
German speaking people. After all was set (room etc.),
I was very surprised to see the announcement of PyCon UK
at the very same date I put the workshop. If I had known
before, I could have easily moved the workshop at least
two weeks away. A few people would have gone to both
events, but had to decide for one (me included).

I would like to have a kind of long-term internal planning
calendar for Python event organizers. Something like a wiki
page with login for list members for instance.
Planning horizon should be one year and more.

Maybe there is something like this already and I am just
no aware of it. Again, I am talking of date planning way
before the official announcement.

Ideas welcome.

Mike

From yarkot1 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 19:52:10 2010
From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:52:10 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] Long-term planning of Python events
In-Reply-To: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
References: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <p2i24433c3c1004201052u3dcb6bd9z5e22f7da8b6ce3d2@mail.gmail.com>

I thought this would be easier, but perhaps this isn't too bad:

If someone wanted to aggregate national-level PyCon conferences in something
like Google Calendar, and post that:

http://blog.ouseful.info/2008/12/04/displaying-events-from-multiple-google-calendars-in-a-single-embedded-calendar-view/

Perhaps someone knows of alternative ways...

But an aggregate calendar would be useful, both for community, and for
planners.

- Yarko

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am starting a new thread about coordinating of
> dates of Python conference, workshops, bar camps
> an the like.
>
> A few years ago I organized a Python workshop for
> German speaking people. After all was set (room etc.),
> I was very surprised to see the announcement of PyCon UK
> at the very same date I put the workshop. If I had known
> before, I could have easily moved the workshop at least
> two weeks away. A few people would have gone to both
> events, but had to decide for one (me included).
>
> I would like to have a kind of long-term internal planning
> calendar for Python event organizers. Something like a wiki
> page with login for list members for instance.
> Planning horizon should be one year and more.
>
> Maybe there is something like this already and I am just
> no aware of it. Again, I am talking of date planning way
> before the official announcement.
>
> Ideas welcome.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
>
> This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential
> information should not be discussed here.
>
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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Tue Apr 20 20:08:36 2010
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:08:36 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Long-term planning of Python events
In-Reply-To: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
References: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <201004202008.37018.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Tuesday 20 April 2010 18:01:56 Mike M?ller wrote:
>
> I would like to have a kind of long-term internal planning
> calendar for Python event organizers. Something like a wiki
> page with login for list members for instance.
> Planning horizon should be one year and more.

Choosing dates, or perhaps I should say choosing *between* dates, has appeared 
to be quite a haphazard affair, at least for EuroPython conferences as long 
as I remember. I imagine that venue availability is the primary constraint 
around which everything else has to work - John will be able to confirm this, 
I'm sure - but I recall only fairly lukewarm discussions about avoiding other 
open source conferences when choosing which dates to go for, although I think 
everyone has tried to avoid obvious Python-related events.

Sometimes, given a set of dates, a scheduling collision is unavoidable: take a 
look at the LWN calendar (http://lwn.net/Calendar/) for an idea of the scale 
of the problem. The best option may then involve just deciding to collide 
with the more insular events like GUADEC, which I think happened in 2008, and 
assume that most of the people who go to those things probably wouldn't want 
to come to something like EuroPython, anyway.

I'd like to see more cooperation, potentially with some of the other more 
general conferences, since it always seems like everyone just decides on 
their own and then announces, but I doubt that it's always like that. Bulking 
up the Python Events page on the Python Wiki, or perhaps having a Planned 
Python Events page, would be rather useful. And to loosen that venue 
constraint, the further ahead the planning goes, the better.

Paul

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Tue Apr 20 22:13:28 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:13:28 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
Message-ID: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>

When I reply to a message from the list it goes
to the private address of the sender rather than the
list. I need to manually construct the message
supplying the list address myself.

Seems like other people have the same problem.
In the last thread "Long-term planning of Python events"
I got two private answers, where they seem to be directed
towards the list. Just look a the archives

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/conferences/2010-April/thread.html

to sees if your message made it there.

Being a Mailman list administrators myself, I know that there is an
option `reply_goes_to_list` that can be set to either `sender`, `list`, or
`explicit address`. I would prefer `list`, which allows to just press
reply to answer to the list.

Any opinions?

Mike

From carl at personnelware.com  Tue Apr 20 22:29:37 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:29:37 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
> When I reply to a message from the list it goes
> to the private address of the sender rather than the
> list. I need to manually construct the message
> supplying the list address myself.
>
> Seems like other people have the same problem.
> In the last thread "Long-term planning of Python events"
> I got two private answers, where they seem to be directed
> towards the list. Just look a the archives
>
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/conferences/2010-April/thread.html
>
> to sees if your message made it there.
>
> Being a Mailman list administrators myself, I know that there is an
> option `reply_goes_to_list` that can be set to either `sender`, `list`, or
> `explicit address`. I would prefer `list`, which allows to just press
> reply to answer to the list.
>
> Any opinions?

Hitler!

Here is my solution:


    message = email.message_from_string(stdin)


    # Munge the Reply-To for lists that don't.
    if not message["Reply-To"]:

        # Look for an address here...
        # check X-BeenThere, List-Post, Cc, Return-Path
        xrt=message.get('X-BeenThere')
        if not xrt:
            # or burried in here:
            xrt=message.get('List-Post')
            if xrt:
                xrt = xrt.split(':')[1].rstrip('>')
            else:
                xrt=message.get('Cc')
                if not xrt:
                    # Return-Path: <owner-nanog at merit.edu>
                    xrt = message.get('Return-Path')

        message["X-xrt"] = xrt

        # if we have an address, see if the domain is special
        if xrt:
            specials=['python.org','lists.idyll.org',
                    'lists.ubuntu.com', 'ubuntu.org',
                    'lists.sourceforge.net',
                    'lists.mysql.com',
                    'redhat.com', ]

            if True in [special in xrt for special in specials]:
                message["Reply-To"] = xrt

    print message
    sys.exit(0)

-- 
Carl K

From catherine.devlin at gmail.com  Tue Apr 20 22:36:18 2010
From: catherine.devlin at gmail.com (Catherine Devlin)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:36:18 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] Fwd:  Long-term planning of Python events
In-Reply-To: <w2g6523e39a1004201152v3d0aa9dbm746a4cc7147799aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
	<w2g6523e39a1004201152v3d0aa9dbm746a4cc7147799aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <s2u6523e39a1004201336vcecb4ac1ya4e2d6aaa9b75b75@mail.gmail.com>

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents looks useful, but underused, and
insufficiently well-known.

... but, of course, event organizers may not think to get an event listed
there until long after they've made their decision, and you've made yours.
It definitely doesn't meet your yearlong planning horizon requirement... I
wonder if there's any hope of getting that level of planning.  Our first
PyOhio took place about four months after we first *imagined* it...


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de>wrote:

> I would like to have a kind of long-term internal planning
> calendar for Python event organizers. Something like a wiki
> page with login for list members for instance.
> Planning horizon should be one year and more.
>
-- 
- Catherine
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/
*** PyOhio 2010 * July 31 - Aug 1 * Columbus, OH * pyohio.org ***
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From lac at openend.se  Tue Apr 20 23:42:48 2010
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:42:48 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: Message from Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> of "Tue,
	20 Apr 2010 23:37:43 +0200."
	<201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se> 
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se> 
Message-ID: <201004202142.o3KLgmAU003218@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:37:43 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
>Notes like this, clearly sent to the sender only, should not by hijacked


I meant -- notes like this, clearly meant to be sent to the original sender only
---

sorry to be unclear.

Laura

From lac at openend.se  Tue Apr 20 23:40:53 2010
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:40:53 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: Message from Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com> of "Tue,
	20 Apr 2010 16:29:37 EDT."
	<r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201004202140.o3KLerRA003175@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:29:37 EDT, Carl Karsten writes:

<a python program>

....

Way cool Carl. :-)

Mind If I send your solutuion to others I find who don't want to give
up their mailers?

Laura


From lac at openend.se  Tue Apr 20 23:37:43 2010
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:37:43 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: Message from =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=
	<mmueller@python-academy.de> of "Tue,
	20 Apr 2010 22:13:28 +0200." <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de> 
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de> 
Message-ID: <201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se>

You need a better mailer, one that lets you post to 'all' 'list only' and
'to the sender only'.

Your proposed solution works for you by absolutely breaking things for
those of us who already have mailers who work that way.  It sets up
an absolute rule so that those of us who do reply to the sender end up
with what we sent, intended not for the list, out in the list.

The downside of sending something to one person when you meant to send
to the list is that you have to send it again.  The downside of having
your list silently take your responses sent to the sender only and
broadcast them to the list can be spectacularly worse, especially when
your absolutely-meant-to-be-only-to-the-sender, and sent that way note
said:

'Why do you keep responding to this moron XXX (also on the list)?  We
all know he is wrong, and that we will never convince him of this fact.
Stop wasting all of our valuable time by arguing with him.  It only
encourages him, because he not arguing in order to reach some consensus.
He's arguing because it is fun.'

Notes like this, clearly sent to the sender only, should not by hijacked
by the list and posted to the whole list.  People who have the ability to
discriminate should be free to do so, and people who do not have such freedom 
should get a new mailer.

see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

but the above is from my personal experience.

Laura


From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Tue Apr 20 23:57:50 2010
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:57:50 -0700
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100420215750.GA22657@panix.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010, Carl Karsten wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Any opinions?
> 
> Hitler!

That is very far from funny.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code."
--Bill Harlan

From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Tue Apr 20 23:59:04 2010
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:59:04 -0700
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <20100420215904.GB22657@panix.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010, Laura Creighton wrote:
>
> see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Laura speaks for me.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code."
--Bill Harlan

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Wed Apr 21 00:23:46 2010
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:23:46 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Fwd:  Long-term planning of Python events
In-Reply-To: <s2u6523e39a1004201336vcecb4ac1ya4e2d6aaa9b75b75@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
	<w2g6523e39a1004201152v3d0aa9dbm746a4cc7147799aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<s2u6523e39a1004201336vcecb4ac1ya4e2d6aaa9b75b75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201004210023.46720.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Tuesday 20 April 2010 22:36:18 Catherine Devlin wrote:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents looks useful, but underused, and
> insufficiently well-known.

It is linked to from the main site, though. Your mission is to tell us how to 
get there from the main page. ;-) Such matters of site structure are perhaps 
of more interest to the revitalised pydotorg-www list, however.

I keep showing the following calendar off because it looks nicer and is meant 
to work in a Wiki context (rather than being some all-Google external thing):

http://wiki.fsfe.org/FellowshipEvents

It would be completely possible to have tentative events in the same view as 
real events, perhaps only visible to conference planning people. The prettier 
such stuff is, the more likely they'll use it and not replicate it in a 
Google-only environment. :-)

> ... but, of course, event organizers may not think to get an event listed
> there until long after they've made their decision, and you've made yours.
> It definitely doesn't meet your yearlong planning horizon requirement... I
> wonder if there's any hope of getting that level of planning.  Our first
> PyOhio took place about four months after we first *imagined* it...

Even if you're planning at short notice, there's still the advantage of having 
other conferences listed for a long period of time as some kind of "warning" 
about appropriate dates. Meanwhile, those other conferences can't do much 
about someone planning something which clashes with their dates at the last 
minute, but by then they'll have announced their event several times and will 
hopefully have attracted a good number of participants.

Paul

P.S. In KMail, I chose "Reply to Mailing-List" to reply to this message. ;-)

From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Apr 21 00:25:14 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:25:14 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <20100420215750.GA22657@panix.com>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100420215750.GA22657@panix.com>
Message-ID: <r2z549053141004201525z83c5cf4dzc82a6fc4b026ae1e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010, Carl Karsten wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any opinions?
>>
>> Hitler!
>
> That is very far from funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


-- 
Carl K

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Wed Apr 21 02:44:05 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:44:05 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de>
	<201004202137.o3KLbhQd002223@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <4BCE4A55.4010709@python-academy.de>

Laura Creighton schrieb:
> You need a better mailer, one that lets you post to 'all' 'list only' and
> 'to the sender only'.

Thanks for the pointer.
Just pressing 'reply to all' will do the trick.

Mike

From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Apr 21 03:16:20 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:16:20 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] List settings - answer to private address
In-Reply-To: <201004202140.o3KLerRA003175@theraft.openend.se>
References: <4BCE0AE8.9020506@python-academy.de> <carl@personnelware.com>
	<r2h549053141004201329kd1bb3555x3012e80cddde27d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<201004202140.o3KLerRA003175@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <k2g549053141004201816ud843b543me8efdaf5300cd14@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:
> In a message of Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:29:37 EDT, Carl Karsten writes:
>
> <a python program>
>
> ....
>
> Way cool Carl. :-)

Thanks.  version 1 of that code was my first Python ever.  It was so
easy I completely missed how cool Python was.   I seriously thought
something like "huh, I guess this is like a better bash."   Then  2
years later I had reason to look at Python again, and only then did I
get it.   I kick myself often.

>
> Mind If I send your solutuion to others I find who don't want to give
> up their mailers?

Not at all.  here is the whole thing, complete with my honey pot and
white list anti-spam processing tangled up in it.


#!/usr/bin/python

import sys, email, email.Message, MySQLdb, re, string

def DebugOut( tcX ):
    if debugOutput:
        print tcX

# Define the WhereConstuct class
class WhereConstuct:

    def __init__(self):
        self.lWhereClauseExpressions = []
        self.lValues = []

    def addToWhereClause(self, tuValue, tcExpr ):
        tuValue = tuValue.strip()
        if tuValue:
            DebugOut( "#1 tuValue='" + tuValue + "'" )
            self.lValues = self.lValues + [tuValue]
            self.lWhereClauseExpressions =
self.lWhereClauseExpressions + [tcExpr+"=%s"]

    def getValues(self):
        return tuple( self.lValues )
    def getWhereClause(self, tcOperator ):
        return string.join( self.lWhereClauseExpressions, " " +
tcOperator + " " )


def getCursor():

    import connectInfo

    user = connectInfo.user
    host = connectInfo.host
    db = connectInfo.db
    password = connectInfo.password

    connection = MySQLdb.Connect(user=user, host=host, db=db, passwd=password)

    return connection.cursor()

def LogStat( tcDesc ):
    if not cursor.execute(
        "update Stats set nCount = nCount + 1 where cDesc = %s", tcDesc ):
        cursor.execute(
            "insert into Stats ( nCount, cDesc ) values ( 1, %s )", tcDesc )

def MarkMessage( tcMessage, tcSpamness ):
    DebugOut( tcSpamness )
    LogStat( tcSpamness )
    tcMessage.add_header("X-Spamness", tcSpamness )
    return True

def InWhiteList( txCursor, tcName, tcAddr ):

    oWhere = WhereConstuct()
    DebugOut( "tcName:'" + tcName + "'" )
    oWhere.addToWhereClause( tcName, "cFromName" )
    oWhere.addToWhereClause( tcAddr, "cFromAddr" )

    lcWhere = oWhere.getWhereClause("or")

    if lcWhere:
        llVars = oWhere.getValues()
        DebugOut( lcWhere )
        DebugOut( llVars )
        return txCursor.execute("update WhiteList "
          "set nCount = nCount +1"
                   " where " + lcWhere, llVars )

    return False

def HasCodeWord( txCursor, tcBody ):
    # Search the message for some tagline
    return False

def IsSpamSubject( txCursor, tcSubject, rcRule ):

    if not tcSubject:
        rcRule = "None"
        return True
    elif re.search( '.[\s\.]{10,}.', tcSubject ):
        rcRule = "10 spaces or dots"
        return True
    elif re.search( '[\x00-\x1f,\x7b-\xff]{10,}', tcSubject ):
        rcRule = "Odd Chars"
        return True
    elif re.search( '(&#[0-9]*;){3,}', tcSubject ):
        rcRule = "html"
        return True
    elif len( tcSubject ) > 20 and tcSubject.count(' ') > 2:

        txCursor.execute("select kSpamSubjects_pk "
                       "  from SpamSubjects "
                       " where cSubject = %s ", (tcSubject) )

        dataSet = cursor.fetchall()
        numberOfEntries = len(dataSet)

        if numberOfEntries > 0:

            kSpamSubjects = dataSet[0][0]
            cursor.execute("update SpamSubjects "
                "set nBlocks = nBlocks + 1"
                " where kSpamSubjects_pk = %s ",  (kSpamSubjects))
            rcRule = "Found in List"
            return True
    return False

def IsSpamFrom(txCursor, tcName, tcAddr):

    txCursor.execute("select kBlackList_pk "
                    "  from BlackList "
                    " where cFromName=%s "
                    "   and cFromAddr=%s ", (tcName, tcAddr))

    dataSet = txCursor.fetchall()
    numberOfEntries = len(dataSet)

    if numberOfEntries > 0:
        lkBlackList = dataSet[0][0]
        txCursor.execute("update BlackList "
        "set nBlocks = nBlocks + 1"
        " where kBlackList_pk = %i ", (lkBlackList))
        return True
    else:
        return False

# begin main

# look for command line parameters
debugOutput = False
for arg in sys.argv:
    if arg == '-d':
        debugOutput = True
"""
for argNum in range(len(sys.argv)):
 # if argNum == 0:
  # ignore, as it is the name of this script
    if sys.argv[argNum] == '-d':
        debugOutput = True
"""

# Check to see if anything was piped in. If not, don't continue
if sys.stdin.isatty():
    DebugOut( "Expected a piped email message, got nothing." )
else:
    # Get stdin text (sys.stdin is a file object):
    stdin = sys.stdin.read()

    message = email.message_from_string(stdin)

    fromHeader = message["From"]
    lcSubject = message["Subject"]
    lcBody = message["Body"]

    if lcSubject:
        DebugOut( "lcSubject %s." % lcSubject )

    if fromHeader:
            DebugOut( "Message is from %s." % fromHeader )

    if lcBody:
            DebugOut( "Body %s" % lcBody )

    # Split the From header into separate name and address fields:
    # lcName, lcAddress = email.Message.utils.parseaddr(fromHeader)
    lcName, lcAddress = email.Message.Utils.parseaddr(fromHeader)
    DebugOut( " Name: %s\n Addr: %s" % (lcName, lcAddress) )

    cursor = getCursor()
    lcRule = "test"

    del message["X-Priority"]

    if InWhiteList(cursor, lcName, lcAddress):
        MarkMessage( message, "Ham - whitelist name>" + lcName + "<" )
        message["X-Priority"] = "2"

    elif HasCodeWord( cursor, lcBody ):
        MarkMessage( message, "Ham - CodeWord." )
    elif IsSpamSubject( cursor, lcSubject, lcRule ):
        MarkMessage( message, "Spam - Subject " + lcRule )
    elif IsSpamFrom( cursor, lcName, lcAddress ):
        MarkMessage( message, "Spam - blacklist." )
    else:
        MarkMessage( message, "Ham - Unknown." )

    message.add_header("X-MI-Name", lcName )
    message.add_header("X-MI-Addr", lcAddress )

    # Munge the Reply-To for lists that don't.
    if not message["Reply-To"]:

        # Look for an address here...
        # check X-BeenThere, List-Post, Cc, Return-Path
        xrt=message.get('X-BeenThere')
        if not xrt:
            # or burried in here:
            xrt=message.get('List-Post')
            if xrt:
                xrt = xrt.split(':')[1].rstrip('>')
            else:
                xrt=message.get('Cc')
                if not xrt:
                    # Return-Path: <owner-nanog at merit.edu>
                    xrt = message.get('Return-Path')

        message["X-xrt"] = xrt

        # if we have an address, see if the domain is special
        if xrt:
            specials=['python.org','lists.idyll.org',
                    'lists.ubuntu.com', 'ubuntu.org',
                    'lists.sourceforge.net',
                    'lists.mysql.com',
                    'redhat.com', ]

            if True in [special in xrt for special in specials]:
                message["Reply-To"] = xrt

    print message
    sys.exit(0)





-- 
Carl K

From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Apr 21 22:12:19 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:12:19 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] Fwd: Long-term planning of Python events
In-Reply-To: <201004210023.46720.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <4BCDCFF4.1030906@python-academy.de>
	<w2g6523e39a1004201152v3d0aa9dbm746a4cc7147799aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<s2u6523e39a1004201336vcecb4ac1ya4e2d6aaa9b75b75@mail.gmail.com>
	<201004210023.46720.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <z2g549053141004211312t82a910b0wa3be13ba38f219db@mail.gmail.com>

bold +1 /bold

On Apr 20, 2010 5:23 PM, "Paul Boddie" <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:

On Tuesday 20 April 2010 22:36:18 Catherine Devlin wrote:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents...
It is linked to from the main site, though. Your mission is to tell us how
to
get there from the main page. ;-) Such matters of site structure are perhaps
of more interest to the revitalised pydotorg-www list, however.

I keep showing the following calendar off because it looks nicer and is
meant
to work in a Wiki context (rather than being some all-Google external
thing):

http://wiki.fsfe.org/FellowshipEvents

It would be completely possible to have tentative events in the same view as
real events, perhaps only visible to conference planning people. The
prettier
such stuff is, the more likely they'll use it and not replicate it in a
Google-only environment. :-)


> ... but, of course, event organizers may not think to get an event listed
> there until long afte...
Even if you're planning at short notice, there's still the advantage of
having
other conferences listed for a long period of time as some kind of "warning"
about appropriate dates. Meanwhile, those other conferences can't do much
about someone planning something which clashes with their dates at the last
minute, but by then they'll have announced their event several times and
will
hopefully have attracted a good number of participants.

Paul

P.S. In KMail, I chose "Reply to Mailing-List" to reply to this message. ;-)

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From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Thu Apr 22 06:28:11 2010
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:28:11 +1000
Subject: [Conferences] PyCon Australia 2010 update
Message-ID: <l2h249b6faa1004212128s6a8c2369rcee08b02ee9e4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Here's some updates for PyCon Australia 2010, to be held at the Sydney
Masonic Center over the weekend of June 26 and 27.

1. Registration is now open
2. Keynotes announced
3. Call For Proposals proceeds
4. Several sponsors confirmed

Please pass this message on to those you feel will find it
interesting.


Registration Is Now Open
========================

We offer two levels of registration for PyCon Australia 2010:

Full (Early Bird) - $165
   This is the registration rate for regular attendees. We're
   offering a limited Early Bird rate for the first 50 to
   registration. Once the Early Bird slots are filled
   registration will increase to $220.

   Full registration includes one seat at the conference dinner
   on Saturday night.

Student - $44
   For students able to present a valid student card we're offering
   this reduced rate. Student registrations do not include a seat
   at the conference dinner.

Additional seats at the conference dinner may be purchased for $77
each.

All prices include GST.

Information about the registration process is on the PyCon Australia
website.

Register here: http://pycon-au.org/reg


Keynotes Announced
==================

We're pleased to announce the keynote line-up for PyCon Australia 2010.

Saturday: Mark Pesce

   "Mark Pesce, one of the early pioneers in Virtual Reality is a
   writer, researcher and teacher. The co-inventor of VRML, he is
   the author of five books and numerous papers on the future of
   technology." - Wikipedia


Saturday evening dinner: Anthony Baxter

   Anthony Baxter has been involved in the open source community
   for more than a decade, largely working in Python and on
   Python. He's working for Google now.


Sunday: Nick Hodge

   Nick Hodge is a Professional Geek at Microsoft in Australia.
   Professional Geek is a polite way of saying he does stuff with
   software running on computers. Previously, he has worked for
   Adobe and Apple.


Call For Proposals
==================

We've had a great response to the Call For Proposals but there's
still time left and plenty of program to fill.

Presentation subjects may range from reports on open source,
academic and commercial projects to tutorials and case studies.
As long as a presentation is interesting and potentially useful
to the Python community, it will be considered for inclusion in
the program.

We're especially interested in short presentations that will teach
conference-goers something new and useful. Can you show attendees
how to use a module? Explore a Python language feature? Package
an application?

Submit your proposal here: http://pycon-au.org/cfp


Sponsors Confirmed
==================

We have confirmed several sponsors for the conference:

   Gold: Microsoft                <http://www.microsoft.com.au/>
 Silver: Anchor                   <http://anchor.com.au/>
 Silver: Thousand Parsec Project  <http://thousandparsec.net/>
In Kind: Linux Australia          <http://linux.org.au/>

Thanks to our sponsors for helping make the event a reality.


    Richard Jones
    PyCon Australia 2010

From wescpy at gmail.com  Sat Apr 24 01:32:48 2010
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:32:48 -0700
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <p2ud228254c1004200835x8c717886kba2d6fadb34b7e38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
	<u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
	<p2ud228254c1004200835x8c717886kba2d6fadb34b7e38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2n78b3a9581004231632u5c97869epa2f20f0e3936a5d@mail.gmail.com>

one thing to note is that there definitely is *some* overlap as PyCon
IE is scheduled on the exact days as the EP tutorials. it would also
be good to set topics that don't overlap as well (if it were possible)
to make it more "continuous" rather than having repeat talks.

-- wesley
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
    http://corepython.com

wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
http://cyberwebconsulting.com

From whykay at gmail.com  Sat Apr 24 09:35:07 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <x2n78b3a9581004231632u5c97869epa2f20f0e3936a5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
	<u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
	<p2ud228254c1004200835x8c717886kba2d6fadb34b7e38@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2n78b3a9581004231632u5c97869epa2f20f0e3936a5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n2vd228254c1004240035pfcd7a6b3o24c76f64b4749071@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

When we asked we didn't realised the tutorials were on. We thought
that if we'd hold it the weekend before it when we looking at dates.

On behalf of Python Ireland, apologies to those who can't make it.
Also, thanks to folks here who ended up starting another thread to
deal with preventing event clashes in the future.

It's been a huge learning experience for me and my committee so far,
and I'm so impressed with so many pycons held globally.

Cheers,

/// Vicky

On Saturday, April 24, 2010, wesley chun <wescpy at gmail.com> wrote:
> one thing to note is that there definitely is *some* overlap as PyCon
> IE is scheduled on the exact days as the EP tutorials. it would also
> be good to set topics that don't overlap as well (if it were possible)
> to make it more "continuous" rather than having repeat talks.
>
> -- wesley
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
>  ? ?http://corepython.com
>
> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
> python training and technical consulting
> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
>

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From wescpy at gmail.com  Sat Apr 24 09:58:31 2010
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:58:31 -0700
Subject: [Conferences] Add PyCon Ireland 2010 to pycon.org's list?
In-Reply-To: <n2vd228254c1004240035pfcd7a6b3o24c76f64b4749071@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCD8C95.1010605@python-academy.de>
	<u2mff8a32f1004200815u8dab3b3yc152e5122eea7d89@mail.gmail.com>
	<p2ud228254c1004200835x8c717886kba2d6fadb34b7e38@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2n78b3a9581004231632u5c97869epa2f20f0e3936a5d@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2vd228254c1004240035pfcd7a6b3o24c76f64b4749071@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <k2x78b3a9581004240058h8519263ajbe136e82d8e38db7@mail.gmail.com>

vicky,

apologies are not needed, especially to *this* mailing list which is a
bunch of people who are passionate about Python and want to see
PyCon's all over the planet. perhaps you want to target those who
signed up for EuroPython tutorials instead? ;-)

anyway, kudos again to you for being bold enough to host such a
gathering in your country. one at a time, Python *will* eventually
take over the world! :-)

cheers,
-wesley


On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Vicky Twomey-Lee <whykay at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When we asked we didn't realised the tutorials were on. We thought
> that if we'd hold it the weekend before it when we looking at dates.
>
> On behalf of Python Ireland, apologies to those who can't make it.
> Also, thanks to folks here who ended up starting another thread to
> deal with preventing event clashes in the future.
>
> It's been a huge learning experience for me and my committee so far,
> and I'm so impressed with so many pycons held globally.
>
> Cheers,
>
> /// Vicky
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2010, wesley chun <wescpy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> one thing to note is that there definitely is *some* overlap as PyCon
>> IE is scheduled on the exact days as the EP tutorials. it would also
>> be good to set topics that don't overlap as well (if it were possible)
>> to make it more "continuous" rather than having repeat talks.
>>
>> -- wesley
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
>> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
>> ?? ?http://corepython.com
>>
>> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
>> python training and technical consulting
>> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
>> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
>>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
> ~~ ? ? ? http://www.python.ie ? ? ~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>



-- 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
    http://corepython.com

"Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
    http://withdjango.com

wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
http://cyberwebconsulting.com