[Chicago] Thanks for having me!

Carl Karsten carl at personnelware.com
Fri Aug 11 13:08:45 EDT 2017


somewhat related:
http://youtu.be/p0iIMDC5BT8
InvestiGator
by Eric Schles
How I use Python to fight slavery.



On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Michael Tamillow <
mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You know, I don't know that much about it. I think it may be related to
Title 47. Maybe Title 2 should stay the way it is.
>
> I don't want to live in a world where the internet belongs to those who
can afford it either, when there is more than enough to go around for
everybody's true interests.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Chris Foresman <foresmac at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> I’ve read extensively about the various lawsuits, etc, involving
Backpage, I have I yet to see anywhere they claim Title II “protects” them.
I believe they have appealed more to First Amendment rights and DMCA safe
harbor provisions. What about Title II ISP net neutrality regulations can
“protect” them from abetting human trafficking? I’m not asking to watch a
movie on the subject, and I don’t think it’s unfair to explain the
reasoning behind such an incredible claim.
>>
>>
>> Chris Foresman
>> foresmac at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Michael Tamillow <
mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is explained in the movie, I Am Jane Doe, which is generally a legal
movie.
>>
>> Backpages has been sued many times, and continues to win every lawsuit
on the defense that Title 2 protects them.
>>
>> Title 2 is not causing the Human Trafficking. It is just not preventing
it adequately.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Chris Foresman <foresmac at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> You have failed to establish any causal link between the implications
of Title II and human trafficking. Please explain.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Foresman
>>> foresmac at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Michael Tamillow <
mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would take everything John Oliver says with a grain of salt. Looks
like your analysis is most likely correct but I don't see any code, and the
level of fraud seems very amatuer - including the FCC's filtering of
comments. Do we live in 1960?
>>>
>>> One of the strongest outcries against title 2 is human trafficking,
which is being perpetrated on and by Backpages.com, but they repeatedly
deny it because they hide behind vague terminology. Likewise, there are
some sites that have sprung up as a chance to extort people based on lewd
photos. You've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette, right?
>>>
>>> http://www.iamjanedoefilm.com/
>>>
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/parents-found-missing-daughter-backpage-fight-justice-part-44753036
>>>
>>> Google's corporate policy used to be "Don't be evil" but it seems they
have succumbed to the hypocrisy of the world. Can't everyone get behind
what's right? It's not changing title 2 that matters. It is how is it
changed.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Chris Sinchok <chris at sinchok.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey All,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for having me last night to talk about my FCC project.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is interested, you can view the slides here:
https://gitpitch.com/csinchok/chipy-fcc-presentation
>>>>
>>>> My original blog post is here:
https://medium.com/@csinchok/an-analysis-of-the-anti-title-ii-bots-463f184829bc
>>>>
>>>> For further reading on this issue:
>>>>
>>>> http://jeffreyfossett.com/2017/05/13/fcc-filings.html
>>>>
https://medium.com/@nhf/whats-up-with-all-of-those-identical-comments-on-the-fcc-net-neutrality-docket-105835f59c3e
>>>>
http://gizmodo.com/can-john-oliver-s-pro-net-neutrality-commenters-compete-1795095982
>>>>
>>>> For anyone with questions, etc, feel free to reach out, this is a
topic I am pretty obsessed with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Sinchok
>>>>
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