[Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ???

Joshua Herman zitterbewegung at gmail.com
Wed Sep 30 06:00:39 CEST 2015 

I talk with someone with a PhD once a week. You should be less intimidated
by qualifications.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:51 PM Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hey Will,
>
> Yep, I know you're right.  I gotta do some networking and meet the right
> people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest
> programmer in the world!  Sarcasm intended.  I'll be happy if I can become
> the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!!  :-)
>
> I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend
> some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings.  Besides, I really NEED to learn
> some serious web development.  So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the
> knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning,
> some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea.
> But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers
> really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff.  I
> gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck.  Besides, it
> looks fun!
>
> I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups.  I just hope
> nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our little
> Python retard!"  If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I won't
> attend any of the meetings!!!!   :-)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of
>> biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it.  I know
>> that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every
>> month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely
>> friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are
>> looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post
>> graduation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Will
>>
>> --
>> William Clemens
>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>
>>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!!  LOL!!!!
>>>
>>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right?
>>> Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy.  Although I would probably
>>> learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's
>>> got that* PhD*, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows
>>> everything about computer science, right?   :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear lewit,
>>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ?
>>>> Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or
>>>> during winter break?
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Joshua herman
>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly!  I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable
>>>>> because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator!  I mean.... I know the
>>>>> basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool
>>>>> stuff.  But changing $PATH is a little scary to me!  On the rare occasion
>>>>> when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor.  The great
>>>>> thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original
>>>>> with a tilde following the name of the file.  So if I want to edit bash.rc
>>>>> I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~.  If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then
>>>>> I just do this:
>>>>>
>>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc
>>>>>
>>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file.  It overwrites the messed up
>>>>> file with the original correct file.  BUT in general I'm very nervous about
>>>>> doing system changes like that.  I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and
>>>>> Kali Linux a while back.  Big mistake!!!!  I mistakenly deleted the grub
>>>>> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!!  I had to do a fresh install of
>>>>> Ubuntu on my hard drive.  That wasn't fun!  (Ubuntu is pretty easy to
>>>>> install.  Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about
>>>>> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my
>>>>> knowledge of modern computation.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night.  The problem is that
>>>>> those are always scheduled for a Thursday night.  That's when I have my
>>>>> Informatics class.  And since the class meets up once a week, missing a
>>>>> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh hey there Safia!  Thanks for writing.  Much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
>>>>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for
>>>>>> your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally
>>>>>> not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It
>>>>>> will almost surely break your code portability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to
>>>>>> Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be
>>>>>> more then happy to get you started down the right path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> William Clemens
>>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman <
>>>>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in
>>>>>>> the following manner.
>>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten
>>>>>>> telling me the general syntax rules.
>>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen
>>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython
>>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda
>>>>>>> 8. I am here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better
>>>>>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/
>>>>>>> financial oriented people are doing the following.
>>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work
>>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser?
>>>>>>> possibly you don't even have a local install of python .
>>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision.
>>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>>>>> ?. Do web development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we
>>>>>>> should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason
>>>>>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is
>>>>>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to
>>>>>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a
>>>>>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long!  Sorry!  Just trying to
>>>>>>>>> explain what's going on.  I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE
>>>>>>>>> to access all the modules that Anaconda can access.  Not really sure how to
>>>>>>>>> do it without tearing apart my operating system.  (And I really don't want
>>>>>>>>> to do that! )  I must say
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll
>>>>>>>> have a question like this and will google and see some related stack
>>>>>>>> overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle
>>>>>>>> in anaconda
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing
>>>>>>>> list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE
>>>>>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is
>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It
>>>>>>>> involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and
>>>>>>>> you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't
>>>>>>>> know if the answer works, but it something to try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> shekay at pobox.com
>>>>>>>>
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