From jonathan.hayward at pobox.com Tue May 1 20:15:25 2012 From: jonathan.hayward at pobox.com (Jonathan Hayward) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:15:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for work Message-ID: The system blocked my email with resume because it was over 40k in length. I'm looking for a position where I can have end-to-end responsibility for an area or areas. More than that can be discussed, but that much is important to my success. If you have anything like that, please email me and I'll send you my resume. -- ? Jonathan Hayward, Author, Django JavaScript Integration: AJAX and jQuery ? Author Bio ? Email ? LinkedIn ? Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, Django, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, Perl, PHP, Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML ? Strong written and oral communicator: Toastmaster and published author ? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 June -- I'm out of town for the next meeting :'( On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > +1 May 10th > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: >> >> A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading >> >> ? ?OR >> >> B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- -Ben Toews From jp at zavteq.com Fri May 4 17:14:07 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: + 1 June On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ben Toews wrote: > +1 June -- I'm out of town for the next meeting :'( > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >> +1 May 10th >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>> Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: >>> >>> A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading >>> >>> ? ?OR >>> >>> B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > -Ben Toews > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From thatmattbone at gmail.com Fri May 4 17:16:46 2012 From: thatmattbone at gmail.com (Matt Bone) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:16:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 May On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, JP Bader wrote: > + 1 June > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ben Toews wrote: >> +1 June -- I'm out of town for the next meeting :'( >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>> +1 May 10th >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: >>>> >>>> A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading >>>> >>>> ? ?OR >>>> >>>> B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -Ben Toews >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From chad at glendenin.com Fri May 4 17:36:17 2012 From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:36:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: June 14th. I have to miss the May meeting. :-( On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: > > A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading > > ? ?OR > > B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From m-rich at northwestern.edu Fri May 4 17:35:58 2012 From: m-rich at northwestern.edu (Matthew T Rich) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:35:58 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 May. I'll be out of town for the June meeting. On May 4, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: Ultimate language blowout III competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: A) May 10th at DRW Trading OR B) June 14th at 1871 in Mmart _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Matthew Rich Senior Web Application Developer Northwestern University School of Education and Social Policy Annenberg Hall, Room 249 +1 847 467 2819 m-rich at northwestern.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orblivion at gmail.com Fri May 4 17:55:22 2012 From: orblivion at gmail.com (Dan Krol) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:55:22 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will be out of town by June, so I vote May 10th. That said, if someone else can do Haskell, it may be better that you take up the reins, because you can probably do a better job than me at this point, I have a lot of time constraints at the moment. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Chad Glendenin wrote: > June 14th. > > I have to miss the May meeting. :-( > > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: >> >> A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading >> >> ? ?OR >> >> B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From orblivion at gmail.com Fri May 4 17:55:41 2012 From: orblivion at gmail.com (Dan Krol) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:55:41 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Quick show of hands... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (In which case ignore my vote) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Dan Krol wrote: > I will be out of town by June, so I vote May 10th. > > That said, if someone else can do Haskell, it may be better that you > take up the reins, because you can probably do a better job than me at > this point, I have a lot of time constraints at the moment. > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Chad Glendenin wrote: >> June 14th. >> >> I have to miss the May meeting. :-( >> >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Ultimate language blowout III ?competition at ChiPy Monthly meeting date: >>> >>> A) ?May 10th at DRW Trading >>> >>> ? ?OR >>> >>> B) ?June 14th at 1871 in Mmart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From g at rre.tt Sat May 5 02:03:56 2012 From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:03:56 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] ZeroMQ event, Sat May 19 Message-ID: If you have Sat May 19th free, or part of it, this will be an excellent event: http://www.zeromq.org/event:chicago-2012-05 This crowd is polyglot, very smart, and is generally tackling hard problems. They also drink, seriously [1]. If you don't feel like signing up for the wikidot thing just to add your name, let me know off list and I can add it easily enough. Garrett [1] Optional, afterward From toba at des.truct.org Sat May 5 08:09:50 2012 From: toba at des.truct.org (Eric Stein) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 01:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] ZeroMQ event, Sat May 19 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA4C42E.7020308@des.truct.org> Ooh, tempting. Eric On 05/04/2012 07:03 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: > If you have Sat May 19th free, or part of it, this will be an excellent event: > > http://www.zeromq.org/event:chicago-2012-05 > > This crowd is polyglot, very smart, and is generally tackling hard problems. > > They also drink, seriously [1]. > > If you don't feel like signing up for the wikidot thing just to add > your name, let me know off list and I can add it easily enough. > > Garrett > > [1] Optional, afterward > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Mon May 7 02:55:22 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 19:55:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Census and my decisison Message-ID: Thursday will be the Ultimate Langage Competition Round III. The reasons why we picked that date: we were fairly split (sorry for those who can not make it), DRW is a cool new venue and can hold crowds in case this happens, and, last but not least, we are planning a very special "Python Open Data Summit" in conjunction with Chicago Open Government (who has embarked on some Big Data projects using Python). So... stay tuned on how to spread the word and participate on the "Ultimate Langage Competition Round III" at DRW this Thursday. RSVP is open http://chipy.org and more details are to follow. -- Brian Ray @brianray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Guido van Rossum Chicago Python User Group ========================= Special Event: "Ultimate Language Shootout III" The last two times we held this event it was a blast. Even if your just coming to watch/vote there really is no other event like this anywhere in Chicago or anywhere else. Where else can you talk about any language you want to an attentive crowd? See how Python compares. This month will be held at the exciting new venue DRW Trading. They have plenty of room and have offered to cater the event. What fine hosts they will be! This will be the best competition ever hosted by ChiPy. ** Feel Free to Redistribute this information to any language oriented group in Chicago land area ** RSVP at?http://chipy.org/ Please bring your ID Quick Links: YES?http://chipy.org/meetings/rsvp/46/yes MAYBE?http://chipy.org/meetings/rsvp/46/maybe When ---- Thursday May 10, 2012 at 7PM till a winner is announced Where ----- DRW Trading 540 W. Madison 3rd FL Directions once you're in the building: Walk into the lobby, take the elevators up to the 2nd floor. Once past security, walk past the elevators and take escalators up to the 3rd Floor. The Competition --------------- Each participant gets only 5-10 minutes (depending on entries). The person who makes the best case wins! They can do whatever they want-- just as long as each presentation is about some programming language other than Python and make at least one comparison to Python during the talk. Sign up: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFdET2FPcjdfa3FCLXlWZ2ZRUFJoN3c6MA See who is in the running: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tWDOaOr7_kqB-yVgfQPRh7w&single=true&gid=0&output=html There will be a cash prize for the best presentation (not the best language, we already know that winner) given of $200. Plus you will be considered really cool for awhile and your friends will be highly impressed. About ChiPy ----------- ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers. Participants range from absolute beginners to seasoned veterans. In short, *everyone* is welcome (including you)! Every second thursday of the month ChiPy members gather to give talks on a wide variety of topics related to Python and related technology. Our community benefits from a variety of participants, so we would love it if you would make yourself a participant! ChiPy website: http://chipy.org ChiPy Mailing List: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chipy-announce Python website: http://python.org -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 From brianhray at gmail.com Mon May 7 17:08:28 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:08:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] language ideas for the shootout Message-ID: I want everyone on this list to forward the invite to at least one friend or group ;) We have a good space this time and let's fill it up. Here are some languages from the Ultimate Language shootout I (January 2009): C - Daniel tcl/tk - tentative Logo - Ian B Smalltalk -Ian B Groovy - David S JAVA - Garrett S Ruby - Frederick P JavaScript - Frederick P Boo - Feihong H C++ - Allan L Lua - Allan L Clojure - Cosmin S C# - Marc T* *... many more Here are some from II (February 2010): C++ brian R Fortran William S Emacs Lisp Christopher W Erlang Garrett Haskell Tristan JavaScript fhsu Factor tyler G Ruby jim *Common Lisp Frank D* Perl Clyde F Forth Phil R Java brian B F-Script Jeff Limbo Jeff S Closure Jeff R ... there were more The Competition --------------- Each participant gets only 5-10 minutes (depending on entries). The person who makes the best case wins! They can do whatever they want-- just as long as each presentation is about some programming language other than Python and make at least one comparison to Python during the talk. Sign up: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFdET2FPcjdfa3FCLXlWZ2ZRUFJoN3c6MA See who is in the running: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tWDOaOr7_kqB-yVgfQPRh7w&single=true&gid=0&output=html There will be a cash prize for the best presentation (not the best language, we already know that winner) given of $200. Plus you will be considered really cool for awhile and your friends will be highly impressed. -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Mon May 7 17:12:05 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:12:05 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] language ideas for the shootout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone know someone who uses scala in a production environment who could talk about it? There was a really thoughtful rant about it with respect to its use at yammer. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > I want everyone on this list to forward the invite to at least one friend or > group ;) We have a good space this time and let's fill it up. > > Here are some languages from the Ultimate Language shootout I (January > 2009): > > C - Daniel > tcl/tk - tentative > Logo - Ian B > Smalltalk -Ian B > Groovy - David S > JAVA - Garrett S > Ruby - Frederick P > JavaScript - Frederick?P > Boo - Feihong H > C++ - Allan L > Lua - Allan L > Clojure - Cosmin S > C# - Marc T > ... many more > > > > Here are some from II (February 2010): > > C++ brian R > Fortran William S > Emacs Lisp Christopher W > Erlang Garrett > Haskell Tristan > JavaScript fhsu > Factor tyler G > Ruby jim > Common Lisp Frank D > Perl Clyde F > Forth Phil R > Java brian B > F-Script Jeff > Limbo Jeff S > Closure Jeff R > ... there were more > > > > The Competition > --------------- > Each participant gets only 5-10 minutes (depending on entries). The > person who makes the best case wins! They can do whatever they want-- > just as long as each presentation is about some programming language > other than Python and make at least one comparison to Python during > the talk. > > Sign up: > https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFdET2FPcjdfa3FCLXlWZ2ZRUFJoN3c6MA > See who is in the running: > http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tWDOaOr7_kqB-yVgfQPRh7w&single=true&gid=0&output=html > > There will be a cash prize for the best presentation (not the best > language, we already know that winner) given of $200. Plus you will be > considered really cool for awhile and your friends will be highly > impressed. > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From jp at zavteq.com Mon May 7 17:16:25 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] language ideas for the shootout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had offered to talk about it, but I don't use it in a production envrionment (not yet at least). JP On May 7, 2012 10:12 AM, "sheila miguez" wrote: > Does anyone know someone who uses scala in a production environment > who could talk about it? > > There was a really thoughtful rant about it with respect to its use at > yammer. > > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > I want everyone on this list to forward the invite to at least one > friend or > > group ;) We have a good space this time and let's fill it up. > > > > Here are some languages from the Ultimate Language shootout I (January > > 2009): > > > > C - Daniel > > tcl/tk - tentative > > Logo - Ian B > > Smalltalk -Ian B > > Groovy - David S > > JAVA - Garrett S > > Ruby - Frederick P > > JavaScript - Frederick P > > Boo - Feihong H > > C++ - Allan L > > Lua - Allan L > > Clojure - Cosmin S > > C# - Marc T > > ... many more > > > > > > > > Here are some from II (February 2010): > > > > C++ brian R > > Fortran William S > > Emacs Lisp Christopher W > > Erlang Garrett > > Haskell Tristan > > JavaScript fhsu > > Factor tyler G > > Ruby jim > > Common Lisp Frank D > > Perl Clyde F > > Forth Phil R > > Java brian B > > F-Script Jeff > > Limbo Jeff S > > Closure Jeff R > > ... there were more > > > > > > > > The Competition > > --------------- > > Each participant gets only 5-10 minutes (depending on entries). The > > person who makes the best case wins! They can do whatever they want-- > > just as long as each presentation is about some programming language > > other than Python and make at least one comparison to Python during > > the talk. > > > > Sign up: > > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFdET2FPcjdfa3FCLXlWZ2ZRUFJoN3c6MA > > See who is in the running: > > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tWDOaOr7_kqB-yVgfQPRh7w&single=true&gid=0&output=html > > > > There will be a cash prize for the best presentation (not the best > > language, we already know that winner) given of $200. Plus you will be > > considered really cool for awhile and your friends will be highly > > impressed. > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Mon May 7 17:35:04 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:35:04 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] language ideas for the shootout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dude! sign up anyway. first come first serve. Ps. here's the yammer/scala story http://codahale.com/the-rest-of-the-story/ due to leaked email http://codahale.com/downloads/email-to-donald.txt On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM, JP Bader wrote: > I had offered to talk about it, but I don't use it in a production > envrionment (not yet at least). > > JP > > On May 7, 2012 10:12 AM, "sheila miguez" wrote: >> >> Does anyone know someone who uses scala in a production environment >> who could talk about it? >> >> There was a really thoughtful rant about it with respect to its use at >> yammer. From damonwang at uchicago.edu Tue May 8 06:25:26 2012 From: damonwang at uchicago.edu (Damon Wang) Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 23:25:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Census and my decisison In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120508042526.GA2256@dubhe.cs.uchicago.edu> On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:55:22PM -0500, Brian Ray wrote: > Thursday will be the Ultimate Langage Competition Round III. The reasons > why we picked that date: we were fairly split (sorry for those who can not > make it), DRW is a cool new venue and can hold crowds in case this > happens, and, last but not least, we are planning a very special > "Python?Open?Data?Summit" in conjunction with Chicago Open Government (who > has embarked on some Big Data projects using Python). > So... stay tuned on how to spread the word and participate on the > "Ultimate Langage Competition Round III" at DRW this Thursday. ?RSVP is > open [1]http://chipy.org and more details are to follow. The "who's running" link currently shows only C++, Common Lisp, AS3, Scala, and Rust. Surely that's not all. Does nobody know Haskell or OCaml or Perl6 or FORTRAN or Prolog or Erlang? I'd love to see those talks. Yours, Damon Wang > -- > Brian Ray? > @brianray > > References > > Visible links > 1. http://chipy.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Tue May 8 16:21:15 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 09:21:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Census and my decisison In-Reply-To: <20120508042526.GA2256@dubhe.cs.uchicago.edu> References: <20120508042526.GA2256@dubhe.cs.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Damon Wang wrote: > > The "who's running" link currently shows only C++, Common Lisp, AS3, > Scala, and Rust. Surely that's not all. Does nobody know Haskell or > OCaml or Perl6 or FORTRAN or Prolog or Erlang? I'd love to see those > talks. > > Did you want to grab one or two of those? 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Cezar wrote the code, but I can't figure out if it has been deployed: https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/commit/a8a20f273a6799ea180251c8680603bf5f5ba2e1#diff-1 +????url(r'(?P\d+)/topics.json',?topics_json,?name="topics.json"), this was merged (I guess) but I don't see it here: https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/urls.py -- Carl K From carl at personnelware.com Thu May 10 16:26:52 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Is there a URL I can hit to get tonights talk data? > > Cezar wrote the code, but I can't figure out if it has been deployed: > > ?https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/commit/a8a20f273a6799ea180251c8680603bf5f5ba2e1#diff-1 > +????url(r'(?P\d+)/topics.json',?topics_json,?name="topics.json"), > ?this was merged (I guess) > ?but I don't see it here: > https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/urls.py ignore above - I was looking in the wrong place. found the code here: https://github.com/brianray/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/urls.py But I am guessing it has not been put onto the site? http://chipy.org/meetings/46/topics.json 404 > > -- > Carl K -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:30:52 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:30:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... Message-ID: great crowd... now we need a couple more contestants. I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. Sign up See who is in the running It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the most fun sometimes. Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. -- Brian Ray @brianray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herbieman2000 at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:34:54 2012 From: herbieman2000 at gmail.com (Frank Duncan) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How long do we have per talk? Have we reached a consensus on that? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > great crowd... now we need ?a couple more contestants. > > I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. > > Sign up > > See who is in the running > > It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the > most fun sometimes. ?Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it > will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:40:00 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:40:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Frank Duncan wrote: > How long do we have per talk? ?Have we reached a consensus on that? > 5 may be too short, 10 too long... not sure if that helps. plan for 5 and we will see if we can give everyone a little extra. -- Brian Ray @brianray From danieltpeters at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:44:14 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:44:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The code hasn't hit the live branch yet. Both the dev database and dev branch on the server have been updated, but this hasn't been merged with the live branch. A series of other patches got added a week ago that I've been trying to test on a staging server and been hitting a wall. I'd rather try and update the site once the meeting has already started tonight (if possible) rather than push to it and bring the site down (and knockout rsvp's) a couple of hours before they're actually needed. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > Is there a URL I can hit to get tonights talk data? > > > > Cezar wrote the code, but I can't figure out if it has been deployed: > > > > > https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/commit/a8a20f273a6799ea180251c8680603bf5f5ba2e1#diff-1 > > > + url(r'(?P\d+)/topics.json', topics_json, name="topics.json"), > > this was merged (I guess) > > but I don't see it here: > > https://github.com/emperorcezar/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/urls.py > > ignore above - I was looking in the wrong place. > found the code here: > https://github.com/brianray/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/urls.py > But I am guessing it has not been put onto the site? > > http://chipy.org/meetings/46/topics.json 404 > > > > > > -- > > Carl K > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 18:46:45 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:46:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Peters wrote: > The code hasn't hit the live branch yet.? Both the dev database and dev > branch on the server have been updated, but this hasn't been merged with the > live branch.? A series of other patches got added a week ago that I've been > trying to test on a staging server and been hitting a wall.? I'd rather try > and update the site once the meeting has already started tonight (if > possible) rather than push to it and bring the site down (and knockout > rsvp's) a couple of hours before they're actually needed. > I agree in your choice to wait till the meeting has started or after. Thanks for volunteering to do this. -- Brian Ray @brianray From shekay at pobox.com Thu May 10 19:00:42 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:00:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If anyone here uses R, I'd enjoy seeing a contrast and compare. Everyone I approached at work who uses it has other plans tonight, and the general call the ML group resulted in no takers. I looked through an R book and felt I'd rather use python for that stuff, but that's about 10 seconds. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > great crowd... now we need ?a couple more contestants. > > I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. > > Sign up > > See who is in the running > > It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the > most fun sometimes. ?Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it > will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. -- sheila From carl at personnelware.com Thu May 10 19:05:40 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Peters wrote: >> The code hasn't hit the live branch yet.? Both the dev database and dev >> branch on the server have been updated, but this hasn't been merged with the >> live branch.? A series of other patches got added a week ago that I've been >> trying to test on a staging server and been hitting a wall.? I'd rather try >> and update the site once the meeting has already started tonight (if >> possible) rather than push to it and bring the site down (and knockout >> rsvp's) a couple of hours before they're actually needed. >> > > I agree in your choice to wait till the meeting has started or after. > > Thanks for volunteering to do this. > Is there a dev or testing instance I can hit? -- Carl K From jp at zavteq.com Thu May 10 20:05:14 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you just volunteer for a 10 second talk about R? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > If anyone here uses R, I'd enjoy seeing a contrast and compare. > Everyone I approached at work who uses it has other plans tonight, and > the general call the ML group resulted in no takers. I looked through > an R book and felt I'd rather use python for that stuff, but that's > about 10 seconds. > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> great crowd... now we need ?a couple more contestants. >> >> I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. >> >> Sign up >> >> See who is in the running >> >> It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the >> most fun sometimes. ?Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it >> will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From eviljoel at linux.com Thu May 10 20:43:58 2012 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Brian, So, I'm a little confused about the format for this. If I wanted to show off Java, do I just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 minutes? Is that how this works? I was kind of thinking this was a programming competition or something. Thanks, EJ On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, JP Bader wrote: > Did you just volunteer for a 10 second talk about R? > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> If anyone here uses R, I'd enjoy seeing a contrast and compare. >> Everyone I approached at work who uses it has other plans tonight, and >> the general call the ML group resulted in no takers. I looked through >> an R book and felt I'd rather use python for that stuff, but that's >> about 10 seconds. >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> great crowd... now we need ?a couple more contestants. >>> >>> I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. >>> >>> Sign up >>> >>> See who is in the running >>> >>> It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the >>> most fun sometimes. ?Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it >>> will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From carl at personnelware.com Thu May 10 20:50:22 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:50:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 minutes. Bonus points for comparing to Python, extra points for what Python could learn, like maybe explain what a war file is and why anyone should care. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello Brian, > > So, I'm a little confused about the format for this. ?If I wanted to > show off Java, do I just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 > minutes? ?Is that how this works? ?I was kind of thinking this was a > programming competition or something. > > Thanks, > EJ > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, JP Bader wrote: >> Did you just volunteer for a 10 second talk about R? >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> If anyone here uses R, I'd enjoy seeing a contrast and compare. >>> Everyone I approached at work who uses it has other plans tonight, and >>> the general call the ML group resulted in no takers. I looked through >>> an R book and felt I'd rather use python for that stuff, but that's >>> about 10 seconds. >>> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> great crowd... now we need ?a couple more contestants. >>>> >>>> I am a little surprised there is no Ruby, Perl, C#, Java... yet. >>>> >>>> Sign up >>>> >>>> See who is in the running >>>> >>>> It is totally acceptable if you just *talk*. In fact, I think those are the >>>> most fun sometimes. ?Nonetheless, folks to make this even better than it >>>> will be already, someone please sign up to be a contestent. >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> JP Bader >> Principal >> Zavteq, Inc. >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >> 608.692.2468 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 20:51:26 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello Brian, > > So, I'm a little confused about the format for this. ?If I wanted to > show off Java, do I just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 > minutes? ?Is that how this works? ?I was kind of thinking this was a > programming competition or something. > ... not a programming competition, yes you just blab about it and there will be AV if you want to plug in. Basically, you can do whatever you want. If you want to write some code and you can do that in Java in 5 minutes, go for it. You should make at least one language comparison to Python. You will not be disqualified if you don't but the point is to take this opportunity to become aware of what else is outside the walls of Python; meanwhile, while shedding light on by revealing differences. Thanks Evil, good luck. -- Brian Ray @brianray From grettke at acm.org Thu May 10 20:57:07 2012 From: grettke at acm.org (Grant Rettke) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:57:07 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would've been up for a blab but I found out too late. If you have a part 2 that would be awesome. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, eviljoel wrote: >> Hello Brian, >> >> So, I'm a little confused about the format for this. ?If I wanted to >> show off Java, do I just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 >> minutes? ?Is that how this works? ?I was kind of thinking this was a >> programming competition or something. >> > > ... not a programming competition, yes you just blab about it and > there will be AV if you want to plug in. Basically, you can do > whatever you want. If you want to write some code and you can do that > in Java in 5 minutes, go for it. You should make at least one language > comparison to Python. You will not be disqualified if you don't but > the point is to take this opportunity to become aware of what else is > outside the walls of Python; meanwhile, while shedding light on by > revealing differences. > > > Thanks Evil, good luck. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE From chad at glendenin.com Thu May 10 20:59:57 2012 From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:59:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Will the metadata site affect Carl's ability to record the meeting tonight? I have to miss the meeting, but I'd really like to see the shootout, so I hope Carl can record it. Thanks! On Thursday, May 10, 2012, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Peters > wrote: > >> The code hasn't hit the live branch yet. Both the dev database and dev > >> branch on the server have been updated, but this hasn't been merged > with the > >> live branch. A series of other patches got added a week ago that I've > been > >> trying to test on a staging server and been hitting a wall. I'd rather > try > >> and update the site once the meeting has already started tonight (if > >> possible) rather than push to it and bring the site down (and knockout > >> rsvp's) a couple of hours before they're actually needed. > >> > > > > I agree in your choice to wait till the meeting has started or after. > > > > Thanks for volunteering to do this. > > > > Is there a dev or testing instance I can hit? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eviljoel at linux.com Thu May 10 21:02:39 2012 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:02:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello All, OK, I'll do it. My trouble will be comparing it to Python but I'll do my best. Laters, EJ On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, eviljoel wrote: >> Hello Brian, >> >> So, I'm a little confused about the format for this. ?If I wanted to >> show off Java, do I just blab about "why Java is so great" for 5 >> minutes? ?Is that how this works? ?I was kind of thinking this was a >> programming competition or something. >> > > ... not a programming competition, yes you just blab about it and > there will be AV if you want to plug in. Basically, you can do > whatever you want. If you want to write some code and you can do that > in Java in 5 minutes, go for it. You should make at least one language > comparison to Python. You will not be disqualified if you don't but > the point is to take this opportunity to become aware of what else is > outside the walls of Python; meanwhile, while shedding light on by > revealing differences. > > > Thanks Evil, good luck. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 21:04:22 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello All, > > OK, I'll do it. ?My trouble will be comparing it to Python but I'll do my best. > OK, her is the sign up form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFdET2FPcjdfa3FCLXlWZ2ZRUFJoN3c6MA -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 From shekay at pobox.com Thu May 10 21:13:38 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:13:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it's only 5 minutes. you have a few hours still. :) On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Grant Rettke wrote: > I would've been up for a blab but I found out too late. > > If you have a part 2 that would be awesome. -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Thu May 10 21:14:26 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, unless there is a prize for the lamest comparison. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, JP Bader wrote: > Did you just volunteer for a 10 second talk about R? -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Thu May 10 21:15:28 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:15:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Based on my back channel knowledge, I am pretty sure it will. So if someone could stand up a site that provides the data, that would be very helpful. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote: > Will the metadata site affect Carl's ability to record the meeting tonight? > I have to miss the meeting, but I'd really like to see the shootout, so I > hope Carl can record it. Thanks! > > > On Thursday, May 10, 2012, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Peters >> > wrote: >> >> The code hasn't hit the live branch yet.? Both the dev database and dev >> >> branch on the server have been updated, but this hasn't been merged >> >> with the >> >> live branch.? A series of other patches got added a week ago that I've >> >> been >> >> trying to test on a staging server and been hitting a wall.? I'd rather >> >> try >> >> and update the site once the meeting has already started tonight (if >> >> possible) rather than push to it and bring the site down (and knockout >> >> rsvp's) a couple of hours before they're actually needed. >> >> >> > >> > I agree in your choice to wait till the meeting has started or after. >> > >> > Thanks for volunteering to do this. >> > >> >> Is there a dev or testing instance I can hit? >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From jp at zavteq.com Thu May 10 21:16:27 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:16:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Only one way to find out :) On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > No, unless there is a prize for the lamest comparison. > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, JP Bader wrote: >> Did you just volunteer for a 10 second talk about R? > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From grettke at acm.org Thu May 10 21:26:44 2012 From: grettke at acm.org (Grant Rettke) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:26:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More Contestants ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed, I'm up in Milwaukee though and I made other plans already. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > it's only 5 minutes. you have a few hours still. :) > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Grant Rettke wrote: >> I would've been up for a blab but I found out too late. >> >> If you have a part 2 that would be awesome. > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 10 21:28:06 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:28:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dan: I suggest just cloning the branch change the settings to match production and just run on a custom port using the embed web server in a gnu screen--a quick hack to give Carl what he needs. Regards, Brian From danieltpeters at gmail.com Thu May 10 21:34:21 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:34:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] talk metadata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: good call. doing it now On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Dan: > > I suggest just cloning the branch change the settings to match > production and just run on a custom port using the embed web server in > a gnu screen--a quick hack to give Carl what he needs. > > Regards, Brian > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.saylor at gmail.com Thu May 10 23:28:55 2012 From: tim.saylor at gmail.com (Tim Saylor) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:28:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Don't miss the best ever... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone looking for parking? $6 https://spothero.com/spot/366?rid=817&starts=2012-05-10T16%3A00%3A00&ends=2012-05-11T07%3A00%3A00 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Remember to RSVP for tomorrow nights meeting -> http://chipy.org > > Also... > > Sign up > > > See who is in the running > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Fri May 11 00:13:01 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 17:13:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] DRW video setup Message-ID: Anyone know how soon I can get into the room to setup gear? Anyone know anything about the room, like does it have a PA system? -- Carl K From eviljoel at linux.com Fri May 11 01:03:28 2012 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:03:28 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] Don't miss the best ever... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey All, I took the CTA instead of the Metra because I figured I was just going to end up in the loop anyway. Looking at the Map, that didn't work out so well. Eh, more exercise. Later, EJ On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Tim Saylor wrote: > Anyone looking for parking? ?$6 > ?https://spothero.com/spot/366?rid=817&starts=2012-05-10T16%3A00%3A00&ends=2012-05-11T07%3A00%3A00 > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Remember?to RSVP for tomorrow nights meeting -> http://chipy.org >> >> Also... >> >> Sign up >> >> See who is in the running >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Fri May 11 01:28:04 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:28:04 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building Message-ID: Reminder... 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On May 10, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Anyone know how soon I can get into the room to setup gear? > > Anyone know anything about the room, like does it have a PA system? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Fri May 11 02:18:31 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Ultimate Language Shotout III Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is for voting for people present at tonight's meeting... I've invited you to fill out the form *Ultimate Language Shoutout III Results*. To fill it out, visit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDhZd25VWmhDZmMwYjh3a3FCTFRkZ2c6MQ -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Django vs Rails vs Spring vs Lift vs > Yesod vs...? > > -- > blogs: > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Fri May 11 03:15:55 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:15:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] DRW video setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The audio is crap. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > They are well equipped. > > > > On May 10, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> Anyone know how soon I can get into the room to setup gear? >> >> Anyone know anything about the room, like does it have a PA system? >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Carl K From chad at glendenin.com Fri May 11 03:43:48 2012 From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:43:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] future shootout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1, love this idea. I can take node.js + Express. That's been my server-side stack recently, especially to serve RESTful APIs to Ext JS and Sencha Touch front-ends, so I can talk about doing the whole stack in JavaScript. I could also do Play Framework (for Java), Grails, or the roll-your-own approach with Java, Jersey, Spring, Hibernate, and servlets, but I'm sure there are people on this list who have much more knowledge and experience with those stacks than I do. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ross Heflin wrote: > I'd be willing to talk to rails.... been working with it for about a year > and a half now. > > On May 10, 2012 8:12 PM, "John Stoner" wrote: >> >> Maybe after tonight we're all shot out, but at some point?could we do a >> cross-language web framework shootout? Django vs Rails vs Spring vs Lift vs >> Yesod vs...? >> >> -- >> blogs: >> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >> 'In knowledge is power; in? wisdom, humility.' >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri May 11 04:51:29 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:51:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] future shootout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Real question is, who's doing Django? I've been doing Django since 0.95, but I wouldn't call myself and expert. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote: > +1, love this idea. I can take node.js + Express. That's been my > server-side stack recently, especially to serve RESTful APIs to Ext JS > and Sencha Touch front-ends, so I can talk about doing the whole stack > in JavaScript. > > I could also do Play Framework (for Java), Grails, or the > roll-your-own approach with Java, Jersey, Spring, Hibernate, and > servlets, but I'm sure there are people on this list who have much > more knowledge and experience with those stacks than I do. > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ross Heflin > wrote: > > I'd be willing to talk to rails.... been working with it for about a year > > and a half now. > > > > On May 10, 2012 8:12 PM, "John Stoner" wrote: > >> > >> Maybe after tonight we're all shot out, but at some point could we do a > >> cross-language web framework shootout? Django vs Rails vs Spring vs > Lift vs > >> Yesod vs...? > >> > >> -- > >> blogs: > >> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > >> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri May 11 04:53:00 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 21:53:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] DRW video setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my "professional" audio opinion. The song at the end crackling is a major indicator that the speaker system itself is adjusted way wrong. The venue itself is actually really really great if we can solve two things. The lights over the projector, and the audio. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > The audio is crap. > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > They are well equipped. > > > > > > > > On May 10, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > > >> Anyone know how soon I can get into the room to setup gear? > >> > >> Anyone know anything about the room, like does it have a PA system? > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Once past security, walk past the elevators and take escalators up to the 3rd Floor. -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Fri May 11 06:33:09 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 23:33:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Generally, we make a promise to teach, learn ... Vern/Julie and North Chapter people are doing way better than myself. We just need to pick a time and place and find a way to get students and teachers together. From namusoke at hotmail.com Fri May 11 07:36:01 2012 From: namusoke at hotmail.com (Valentina Kibuyaga) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 00:36:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Thank you. Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? Thank you. > CC: chicago at python.org > From: brianhray at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 23:33:09 -0500 > To: chicago at python.org > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building > > Generally, we make a promise to teach, learn ... Vern/Julie and North Chapter people are doing way better than myself. We just need to pick a time and place and find a way to get students and teachers together. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Fri May 11 19:14:15 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:14:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: [PS1] Python Study Group - reboot - changes to schedule and format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This will be of interest to people wanting to learn more about python. PS1 is a Chicago hackerspace located on Elston between Addison and Belmont. http://g.co/maps/3yq69 http://pumpingstationone.org/contact-2/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sacha De'Angeli Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:06 PM Subject: [PS1] Python Study Group - reboot - changes to schedule and format To: "Pumping Station: One Public" , Pumping Station One Hi all, We (the python study group) is making some changes to the event schedule and format and officially rebooting it. There are loads of wonderful free resources out there for beginners learning how to program, but not much in-person support.? We'll provide support from other students and (if we can capture one with the promise of beer) an experienced Python developer to help you work through homework problems and questions. All skill levels welcome! We're meeting at PS1 First and third Thursdays of each month (5/17 is the first event with the new format). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pumping Station One" group. To post to this group, send email to pumping-station-one at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pumping-station-one+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pumping-station-one?hl=en. From shekay at pobox.com Fri May 11 19:20:47 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:20:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Valentina Kibuyaga wrote: > Thank you. > > Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? > > Thank you. What kind of resources are you interested in? Do you like learning with other people, or do you want some self directed study with online materials? There's a python study group that meets at Pumping Station One (PS1). I forwarded an announcement about it to the chipy mailing list just now. It's located on the north side of Chicago. Sometimes people have done one day teaching sessions before. Carl once had an idea of doing short chipy pre-meetings for people new to python. I don't know if he is still interested in that. Some people were talking about improving the django tutorial and perhaps filming it in action. So if people are interested in going through a tutorial on django, raise hands. -- sheila From brian at python.org Fri May 11 20:08:44 2012 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:08:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Open Django Central, here in Chicago - June 8-9 Message-ID: Two more weeks to pick up early bird tickets to Open Django Central -- http://opendjango.com/central/. It's $195 if you're paying, $245 if your boss is, and the rates go up May 26. The event is being held at the Chicago Marriott O'Hare which is right off of the Cumberland blue line stop. From johnstoner2 at gmail.com Fri May 11 20:10:11 2012 From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:10:11 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd be interested in learning more about Django. I've messed with it some, but I feel like it has a different feature set than other web frameworks I've used. I'd actually like a high-level overview of it to get a better handle on the overall feature set. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Valentina Kibuyaga > wrote: > > Thank you. > > > > Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? > > > > Thank you. > > What kind of resources are you interested in? Do you like learning > with other people, or do you want some self directed study with online > materials? > > There's a python study group that meets at Pumping Station One (PS1). > I forwarded an announcement about it to the chipy mailing list just > now. It's located on the north side of Chicago. > > Sometimes people have done one day teaching sessions before. Carl once > had an idea of doing short chipy pre-meetings for people new to > python. I don't know if he is still interested in that. > > Some people were talking about improving the django tutorial and > perhaps filming it in action. So if people are interested in going > through a tutorial on django, raise hands. > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- blogs: http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri May 11 20:23:21 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Open Django Central, here in Chicago - June 8-9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm. Is this like an un-conference? I don't see a schedule. Also. The eventbrite page has it going till 4:30 _am_ on Saturday. I'm assuming that's PM? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > Two more weeks to pick up early bird tickets to Open Django Central -- > http://opendjango.com/central/. It's $195 if you're paying, $245 if > your boss is, and the rates go up May 26. > > The event is being held at the Chicago Marriott O'Hare which is right > off of the Cumberland blue line stop. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Fri May 11 20:29:40 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:29:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it might be good to discuss what is important - like some of the features of Java that Joel brought up: People have heard of it, it is stable, it has a ton of libraries. That is also true for php, but they are still points worth considering. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, John Stoner wrote: > I'd be interested in learning more about Django. I've messed with it some, > but I feel like it has a different feature set than other web frameworks > I've used. I'd actually like a high-level overview of it to get a better > handle on the overall feature set. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Valentina Kibuyaga >> wrote: >> > Thank you. >> > >> > Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? >> > >> > Thank you. >> >> What kind of resources are you interested in? Do you like learning >> with other people, or do you want some self directed study with online >> materials? >> >> There's a python study group that meets at Pumping Station One (PS1). >> I forwarded an announcement about it to the chipy mailing list just >> now. It's located on the north side of Chicago. >> >> Sometimes people have done one day teaching sessions before. Carl once >> had an idea of doing short chipy pre-meetings for people new to >> python. I don't know if he is still interested in that. >> >> Some people were talking about improving the django tutorial and >> perhaps filming it in action. So if people are interested in going >> through a tutorial on django, raise hands. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > blogs: > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > 'In knowledge is power; in? wisdom, humility.' > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From brian at python.org Fri May 11 20:38:14 2012 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 13:38:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Open Django Central, here in Chicago - June 8-9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > Hmm. Is this like an un-conference? I don't see a schedule. I think the schedule just isn't finalized yet. I know Adrian Holovaty is doing something with the conference. http://opendjango.com/en/east/ has a full schedule for the East version if you're looking for an example of what the Central version might look like. > Also. The eventbrite page has it going till 4:30 _am_ on Saturday. I'm > assuming that's PM? Probably. From jp at zavteq.com Fri May 11 21:57:44 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 14:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 for the Django walk through. I've done a lot of the online tutorials, and have started getting deeper into the bowels of python, but would definitely be interested in spending time with Django. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > I think it might be good to discuss what is important - like some of > the features of Java that Joel brought up: People have heard of it, it > is stable, it has a ton of libraries. ?That is also true for php, but > they are still points worth considering. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, John Stoner wrote: >> I'd be interested in learning more about Django. I've messed with it some, >> but I feel like it has a different feature set than other web frameworks >> I've used. I'd actually like a high-level overview of it to get a better >> handle on the overall feature set. >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Valentina Kibuyaga >>> wrote: >>> > Thank you. >>> > >>> > Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? >>> > >>> > Thank you. >>> >>> What kind of resources are you interested in? Do you like learning >>> with other people, or do you want some self directed study with online >>> materials? >>> >>> There's a python study group that meets at Pumping Station One (PS1). >>> I forwarded an announcement about it to the chipy mailing list just >>> now. It's located on the north side of Chicago. >>> >>> Sometimes people have done one day teaching sessions before. Carl once >>> had an idea of doing short chipy pre-meetings for people new to >>> python. I don't know if he is still interested in that. >>> >>> Some people were talking about improving the django tutorial and >>> perhaps filming it in action. So if people are interested in going >>> through a tutorial on django, raise hands. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> -- >> blogs: >> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >> 'In knowledge is power; in? wisdom, humility.' >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From brian at imagescape.com Fri May 11 23:53:25 2012 From: brian at imagescape.com (Brian Moloney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:53:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Djangonauts meetup, May 16th, featuring Steve Holden Message-ID: Greetings ChiPy, A heads up that the next Chicago Djangonauts meeting will be May 16th at 6:30pm. The lineup includes: + Max Mautner will be talking about Fabric/pexpect + George Kappel will be talking about his use of Django for an early-stage startup I am also pleased to announce a special guest presenter will be joining us: Steve Holden. Steve has been a Director of the Python Software Foundation since 2004 and just finished a 4-year term as its Chairman. He is author of the book Python Web Programming and is one of the architects and core contributors to the PyCon and DjangoCon conferences. His latest venture is organizing a series of regional Django conferences called "Open Django" (www.opendjango.com). Our host is Chicago startup Kumbuya.com, located in the Duo Consulting offices at 20 W. Kinzie (15th floor) in Chicago. Kumbuya has graciously offered to provide beer and soft drinks as well as pizza for all attendees. Please remember to RSVP early on either of the following Web pages: Facebook Event page: http://www.facebook.com/events/354605361259918/ Imaginary's Contact Form: http://www.chicagodjango.com/ Hope to see you there! Brian -- Brian J. Moloney Managing Partner Imaginary Landscape, LLC Web Design | Development | Strategy (877) 275-9144 toll free http://imagescape.com http://chicagodjango.com http://twitter.com/Brian_Moloney From jp at zavteq.com Sat May 12 00:15:22 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:15:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Djangonauts meetup, May 16th, featuring Steve Holden In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there a way to register in case we don't have a book of faces account? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Brian Moloney wrote: > Greetings ChiPy, > > A heads up that the next Chicago Djangonauts meeting will be May 16th > at 6:30pm. ?The lineup includes: > > + Max Mautner will be talking about Fabric/pexpect > + George Kappel will be talking about his use of Django for an > early-stage startup > > I am also pleased to announce a special guest presenter will be > joining us: Steve Holden. Steve has been a Director of the Python > Software Foundation since 2004 and just finished a 4-year term as its > Chairman. He is author of the book Python Web Programming and is one > of the architects and core contributors to the PyCon and DjangoCon > conferences. His latest venture is organizing a series of regional > Django conferences called "Open Django" (www.opendjango.com). > > Our host is Chicago startup Kumbuya.com, located in the Duo Consulting > offices at 20 W. Kinzie (15th floor) in Chicago. ?Kumbuya has > graciously offered to provide beer and soft drinks as well as pizza > for all attendees. > > Please remember to RSVP early on either of the following Web pages: > > Facebook Event page: ?http://www.facebook.com/events/354605361259918/ > Imaginary's Contact Form: ?http://www.chicagodjango.com/ > > > Hope to see you there! > > Brian > > -- > Brian J. Moloney > Managing Partner > > Imaginary Landscape, LLC > Web Design | Development | Strategy > (877) 275-9144?toll free > > http://imagescape.com > http://chicagodjango.com > http://twitter.com/Brian_Moloney > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From tim.saylor at gmail.com Sat May 12 00:54:52 2012 From: tim.saylor at gmail.com (Tim Saylor) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:54:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Directions once you're in the building In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm going to be a mentor at the PS:One python study group, I'd be happy to answer Django questions. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM, JP Bader wrote: > +1 for the Django walk through. I've done a lot of the online > tutorials, and have started getting deeper into the bowels of python, > but would definitely be interested in spending time with Django. > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > I think it might be good to discuss what is important - like some of > > the features of Java that Joel brought up: People have heard of it, it > > is stable, it has a ton of libraries. That is also true for php, but > > they are still points worth considering. > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, John Stoner > wrote: > >> I'd be interested in learning more about Django. I've messed with it > some, > >> but I feel like it has a different feature set than other web frameworks > >> I've used. I'd actually like a high-level overview of it to get a better > >> handle on the overall feature set. > >> > >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, sheila miguez > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Valentina Kibuyaga > >>> wrote: > >>> > Thank you. > >>> > > >>> > Therefore, are these additional learning resources for Python? > >>> > > >>> > Thank you. > >>> > >>> What kind of resources are you interested in? Do you like learning > >>> with other people, or do you want some self directed study with online > >>> materials? > >>> > >>> There's a python study group that meets at Pumping Station One (PS1). > >>> I forwarded an announcement about it to the chipy mailing list just > >>> now. It's located on the north side of Chicago. > >>> > >>> Sometimes people have done one day teaching sessions before. Carl once > >>> had an idea of doing short chipy pre-meetings for people new to > >>> python. I don't know if he is still interested in that. > >>> > >>> Some people were talking about improving the django tutorial and > >>> perhaps filming it in action. So if people are interested in going > >>> through a tutorial on django, raise hands. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> sheila > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> blogs: > >> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > >> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is causing me grief, which is why the language vids will probably never be finished. Lots of people have offered to help, Cezar wrote some code: https://github.com/brianray/Chipy/pull/24#issuecomment-5034506 2 meetings have gone by and it isn't in production yet. My guess is there is most of the site isn't used, so removing it won't cause any problems. It was an educational project, I also guess the eduction part is done, perhaps there is one more lesson, the cost of technical debt. So I am up for starting over. What do we need? Where there ever any docs for the existing site? -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Sat May 12 20:25:23 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 13:25:23 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] website re-replacement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5BAB7B21-0456-467B-A0B3-024572F78289@gmail.com> This is my fault, the code is done but I failed to organize it's release in production. We will make that happen. -Brian From danieltpeters at gmail.com Sat May 12 22:44:15 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:44:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] website re-replacement In-Reply-To: <5BAB7B21-0456-467B-A0B3-024572F78289@gmail.com> References: <5BAB7B21-0456-467B-A0B3-024572F78289@gmail.com> Message-ID: i honestly think that the code thats in there thats chipy specific would be fine, just rip out all of the non-essential pinax code. I haven't used pinax a great deal but I think whats in there right now is from the before the "fresh-start" branch. if the meetings app, maybe a mapping app and a couple of other apps were kept in and the rest removed it would probably be fairly easy to just add it to a base fresh-start pinax clone, from the current stable. That way Cezars code that you need would be fine, and we wouldn't have to worry about maintaining 35+ apps that we don't really need. if this is incoherent its because bear with. I also think theres some quite a bit of spam accounts created that need to be cleared out. side note, its not entirely Brians fault, I volunteered to test all of the current site figure out whats wrong, fell down on that one. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > This is my fault, the code is done but I failed to organize it's release > in production. We will make that happen. > > -Brian > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danieltpeters at gmail.com Sat May 12 22:51:25 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:51:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] website re-replacement In-Reply-To: References: <5BAB7B21-0456-467B-A0B3-024572F78289@gmail.com> Message-ID: bear with in that its saturday morning, i have yet to find a cup of coffee. my apologies. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > i honestly think that the code thats in there thats chipy specific would > be fine, just rip out all of the non-essential pinax code. I haven't used > pinax a great deal but I think whats in there right now is from the before > the "fresh-start" branch. if the meetings app, maybe a mapping app and a > couple of other apps were kept in and the rest removed it would probably be > fairly easy to just add it to a base fresh-start pinax clone, from the > current stable. That way Cezars code that you need would be fine, and we > wouldn't have to worry about maintaining 35+ apps that we don't really > need. if this is incoherent its because bear with. I also think theres > some quite a bit of spam accounts created that need to be cleared out. > > side note, its not entirely Brians fault, I volunteered to test all of the > current site figure out whats wrong, fell down on that one. > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> This is my fault, the code is done but I failed to organize it's release >> in production. We will make that happen. >> >> -Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Mon May 14 14:54:29 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:54:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Congrats Frank Duncan Message-ID: Congrats to Frank Duncan (defending champion) who won our Ultimate Language shootout III on Common Lisp. 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URL: From shekay at pobox.com Mon May 14 17:15:21 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:15:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Congrats Frank Duncan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Grant Rettke wrote: >> >> I wasn't able to attend. Why did Lisp win? >> > > No, Frank won. We voted on the best presentation. It so happens he presented > on Lisp. I ranked his talk high. I also ranked some of the others. Pete's presentation on coffeescript, for example. I like the presentations where people have a visual demonstration of code doing things. Frank took some python code, and had a slide where he moved the elements around in to an AST and then showed how that morphs in to lisp, and he did some cool overlay visualization (similar to the talk where someone had a nice ascii arrow spiral). Pete's talk had a live window where he talked and typed coffeescript at the same time and you could see the resulting javascript in the adjoining window. They both had good verbal blahblahblahs but the screen stuff was good. I ranked some of the other talks high as well (Brian had everyone vote on a Likert type of scale, 1 to 5). I can't remember all of my rankings! lesson: animate your code when you give a talk. oh! go is an interesting language! sort of reminds me of erlang too, you can write things mentally sequentially and it handles the heavy lifting for you, or perhaps I completely misunderstood that. I forgot to go read up on it. (I guess I probbly ranked the go talk high too!) -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Mon May 14 17:16:55 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Congrats Frank Duncan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh and could also be due to the lisp folk song at the end. :) hmm, this calls for song/voting studies. speaking of folk songs. pycon has yet to catch up with the tcl conference I attended a long time ago. We had tcl filk from Clif Flynt. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Grant Rettke wrote: > I wasn't able to attend. Why did Lisp win? -- sheila From brian at imagescape.com Mon May 14 22:55:20 2012 From: brian at imagescape.com (Brian Moloney) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:55:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] More information about Wednesday's Djangonauts meetup with Steve Holden Message-ID: Hi ChiPy, Steve added some more information about his presentation that I wanted to share: Hey, everyone! We are hoping to try some new things at Open Django Central, so I'd like to take the opportunity of running a few ideas by you and picking your brains, if you don't mind. I'll also update you on progress towards this year's DjangoCon, which is being held in Washington, DC in September. Also I'll have a few Python 3 stickers to give away. My Raspberry Pi has not arrived yet, but if it gets here in time I will be happy to bring it to the meeting. That new piece of hardware represents a great opportunity to move Python (and Django, if people get behind it) forward hugely. Bear in mind that so far only 10,000 have been produced but there's a waiting list of over 350,000 units. I think this is going to bring Python into renewed prominence. If there's time I'd also like to describe an experiment I am running with courseware from O'Reilly to help people build custom courses. As always, I will be happy to meet as many Django users as possible! ADDITIONAL PRESENTATIONS - Max Mautner will be talking about Fabric/pexpect - George Kappel will be talking about his use of Django for an early-stage startup MORE INFORMATION Information and RSVP on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/events/354605361259918/ Facebook alternative information and RSVP: http://www.chicagodjango.com/news/announcements/2012/may/chicago-djangonauts-meetup-may-16th/ Please RSVP ASAP, so we can gauge how much food/drink to order. Also, because this is a downtown location you'll need to be on a list. See you Wednesday! Brian -- Brian J. 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Are you a critical thinker who's able to learn new skills and apply them in clever ways to the job at hand? If so, we're looking for you! Leapfrog Online is the leading independent digital direct marketing firm in the country, developing programs for Fortune 500 marketers to find and convert the right customers. We?re not your average marketing company, though. We stake our business directly on the success of our products, our Clients? business results, and ultimately, their satisfaction. We're a small company, and to feel at-home here, you need to thrive in a fast-paced environment, be self-motivated and a resourceful independent-thinker who works well independently and in a collaborative team environment. Leapfrog is committed to agile project management and open-source software. Test Engineers at Leapfrog work closely with the business side to understand how a Web site is supposed to behave, and equally closely with the technology side to make sure it really does behave that way. We automate our tests using a variety of open-source testing tools and frameworks including twill (mechanize), Selenium (including Selenium Grid), and others. We all write a lot in Python and spend a bunch of time in a Unix terminal. Sometimes we write applications, do Web site design (HTML/CSS/JavaScript), handle small system administration tasks, or write monitoring scripts. We write test plans, and find and investigate software bugs. Sometimes we fix them ourselves; mostly, though, we figure out what?s wrong, what?s right, write it up, and work with the other Engineers to get it fixed. Sound interesting to you? If so, then you should know our requirements are a bachelor?s degree, an intense attention to detail, a love of learning, a passion for problem-solving, and a good attitude and sense of responsibility. 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URL: From robkapteyn at gmail.com Wed May 16 07:05:24 2012 From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 00:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Congrats Frank Duncan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hmmm . . . not a folk song, but . . . there was a lot of good comedy material in most of those presentations. maybe enough for a skit in the style of Monty Python's Flying Circus ? (it almost WAS like that, wasn't it ?) and Guido would love it -- he never liked the snake analogy. I know we have the talent in our group -- Garrett and Chris Webber come to mind. We just need to schedule a skit writing jam session after one of our meetings ;) On May 14, 2012, at 10:16 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > oh and could also be due to the lisp folk song at the end. :) hmm, > this calls for song/voting studies. > > speaking of folk songs. pycon has yet to catch up with the tcl > conference I attended a long time ago. We had tcl filk from Clif > Flynt. > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Grant Rettke wrote: >> I wasn't able to attend. Why did Lisp win? > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri May 18 18:06:49 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework Message-ID: Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most minor of them. Code complication and organization ========================== Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter information, a place to propose a talk, etc. The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. System administration tasks ===================== The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. What my plan is ============ All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only real way to go with something that complicated. The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over code from the old site. I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really shouldn't need admining. What can you do to help ================== People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience would be greatly appreciated. If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some great advice. I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github Thanks! [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harks > dave at dwink.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Sat May 19 00:23:52 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:23:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I added some issues that would help Carl and something that I would like. Basically it would allow meetings to be exported in json and ical format. One would be used to generate the videos for the site. The other would be so that I could subscribe to a chipy calendar. ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > Yes, thank you for doing this. Its reassuring to know that (way) more > experienced people were seeing the same things I was.? I have a test for > your json view, some other assorted bits lying around, I'll fork the repo > and follow up with a pull request. > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, David Harks wrote: >> >> >> On May 18, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Adam Cezar Jenkins wrote: >> >> What can you do to help >> ================== >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design >> experience would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> I'm in, I've done some Django work and am reasonably comfortable there. >> Just let me know what you need. >> >> d >> >> David W. Harks >> dave at dwink.net >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From danieltpeters at gmail.com Sat May 19 02:04:08 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:04:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the json is already in there, or was in the older one. It exports to chipy.org/meetings/$meeting_id/topics.json and I think ical might already be in there as well. but that could very well be an artifact of pinax. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > I added some issues that would help Carl and something that I would like. > > Basically it would allow meetings to be exported in json and ical > format. One would be used to generate the videos for the site. The > other would be so that I could subscribe to a chipy calendar. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: > > Yes, thank you for doing this. Its reassuring to know that (way) more > > experienced people were seeing the same things I was. I have a test for > > your json view, some other assorted bits lying around, I'll fork the repo > > and follow up with a pull request. > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, David Harks wrote: > >> > >> > >> On May 18, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Adam Cezar Jenkins wrote: > >> > >> What can you do to help > >> ================== > >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design > >> experience would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> > >> I'm in, I've done some Django work and am reasonably comfortable there. > >> Just let me know what you need. > >> > >> d > >> > >> David W. Harks > >> dave at dwink.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Sat May 19 10:16:33 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 03:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my email I talked about django-piston. It's pushing out a generic api. http://chipy.org/api/meetings/ The topics.json I wrote is broken because other changes in the repo changed the models and I didn't know about it. One of the reasons for using Symposium is that Carl and I have already done the JSON dance with them and it has it built in. As far as iCal, it does have it, you can see the code at https://github.com/brianray/Chipy/blob/master/meetings/views.py#L76 It's good you opened the issue since it gives a good place to hammer out any details and keep a discussion going about it. More importantly, reminds us to port that part over. :) On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > the json is already in there, or was in the older one. It exports to > chipy.org/meetings/$meeting_id/topics.json > > > > and I think ical might already be in there as well. but that could very > well be an artifact of pinax. > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > >> I added some issues that would help Carl and something that I would like. >> >> Basically it would allow meetings to be exported in json and ical >> format. One would be used to generate the videos for the site. The >> other would be so that I could subscribe to a chipy calendar. >> ---Profile:--- >> http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Peters >> wrote: >> > Yes, thank you for doing this. Its reassuring to know that (way) more >> > experienced people were seeing the same things I was. I have a test for >> > your json view, some other assorted bits lying around, I'll fork the >> repo >> > and follow up with a pull request. >> > >> > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:23 PM, David Harks wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 18, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Adam Cezar Jenkins wrote: >> >> >> >> What can you do to help >> >> ================== >> >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design >> >> experience would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm in, I've done some Django work and am reasonably comfortable there. >> >> Just let me know what you need. >> >> >> >> d >> >> >> >> David W. 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URL: From namusoke at hotmail.com Mon May 21 21:38:06 2012 From: namusoke at hotmail.com (Valentina Kibuyaga) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 14:38:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at programming. Please instruct me in how I can be of assistance. Thank you, Valentina KibuyagaDate: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com To: chicago at python.org Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most minor of them. Code complication and organization ========================== Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter information, a place to propose a talk, etc. The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. System administration tasks ===================== The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. What my plan is ============ All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only real way to go with something that complicated. The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over code from the old site. I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really shouldn't need admining. What can you do to help ================== People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience would be greatly appreciated. If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some great advice. I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github Thanks! [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Mon May 21 22:36:19 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:36:19 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are starting from a completely beginner level, the openhatch missions seem a good place to start learning how to contribute to projects in general. . Perhaps we could meet at pumpingstationone's "python office hours", and I could sit down and help walk through missions. (if meeting at ps1 on Thursdays isn't handy, maybe we could figure out some other coworking space -- or maybe just chat on irc?) (details on the python office hours at ps1: ) On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga wrote: > I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at > programming. > > Please instruct me in how I can be of assistance. > > > Thank you, > > Valentina Kibuyaga > ________________________________ -- sheila From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Mon May 21 23:23:00 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:23:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga wrote: > I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at > programming. > > Please instruct me in how?I?can be of assistance. > > > ?Thank you, > > Valentina Kibuyaga > ________________________________ > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 > From: emperorcezar at gmail.com > To: chicago at python.org > Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > > > Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on > Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most > minor of them. > > Code complication and organization > ========================== > > Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. > Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. > Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or > just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in > there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter > information, a place to propose a talk, etc. > > The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out > correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory > structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses > django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. > > System administration tasks > ===================== > > The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there > are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and > media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. > > > What my plan is > ============ > > All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to > implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. > > There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a > clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] > project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could > be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as > talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. > > Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest > thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has > finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo > that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only > real way to go with something that complicated. > > The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over > code from the old site. > > I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull > requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site > there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't > communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of > the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy > that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. > > The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of > software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org > should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on > something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we > currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, > etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More > importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really > shouldn't need admining. > > > What can you do to help > ================== > People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience > would be greatly appreciated. > > If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull > request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would > be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some > great advice. > > I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring > something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can > find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org > > I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two > lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can > start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at > http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github > > Thanks! > > [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy > [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From carl at personnelware.com Mon May 21 23:30:01 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:30:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Except the readme comes from symposium, and it is broken. submitting a patch now... stand by. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to > setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga > wrote: >> I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at >> programming. >> >> Please instruct me in how?I?can be of assistance. >> >> >> ?Thank you, >> >> Valentina Kibuyaga >> ________________________________ >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 >> From: emperorcezar at gmail.com >> To: chicago at python.org >> Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework >> >> >> Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on >> Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most >> minor of them. >> >> Code complication and organization >> ========================== >> >> Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. >> Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. >> Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or >> just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in >> there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter >> information, a place to propose a talk, etc. >> >> The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out >> correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory >> structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses >> django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. >> >> System administration tasks >> ===================== >> >> The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there >> are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and >> media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. >> >> >> What my plan is >> ============ >> >> All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to >> implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. >> >> There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a >> clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] >> project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could >> be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as >> talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. >> >> Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest >> thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has >> finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo >> that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only >> real way to go with something that complicated. >> >> The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over >> code from the old site. >> >> I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull >> requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site >> there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't >> communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of >> the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy >> that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. >> >> The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of >> software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org >> should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on >> something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we >> currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, >> etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More >> importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really >> shouldn't need admining. >> >> >> What can you do to help >> ================== >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience >> would be greatly appreciated. >> >> If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull >> request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would >> be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some >> great advice. >> >> I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring >> something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can >> find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org >> >> I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two >> lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can >> start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at >> http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github >> >> Thanks! >> >> [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy >> [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion >> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service >> _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Carl K From emperorcezar at gmail.com Mon May 21 23:40:32 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:40:32 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fixed it. https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org/blob/develop/README.md On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Except the readme comes from symposium, and it is broken. > > submitting a patch now... stand by. > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: > > If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to > > setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. > > ---Profile:--- > > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga > > wrote: > >> I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at > >> programming. > >> > >> Please instruct me in how I can be of assistance. > >> > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Valentina Kibuyaga > >> ________________________________ > >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 > >> From: emperorcezar at gmail.com > >> To: chicago at python.org > >> Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > >> > >> > >> Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with > master on > >> Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most > >> minor of them. > >> > >> Code complication and organization > >> ========================== > >> > >> Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site > is. > >> Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way > overkill. > >> Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused > or > >> just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all > this in > >> there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter > >> information, a place to propose a talk, etc. > >> > >> The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out > >> correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The > directory > >> structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It > uses > >> django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. > >> > >> System administration tasks > >> ===================== > >> > >> The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that > there > >> are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The > db and > >> media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. > >> > >> > >> What my plan is > >> ============ > >> > >> All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to > >> implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated > maner. > >> > >> There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first > is a > >> clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] > >> project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It > could > >> be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as > >> talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. > >> > >> Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the > easiest > >> thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad > Pinax has > >> finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github > repo > >> that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only > >> real way to go with something that complicated. > >> > >> The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port > over > >> code from the old site. > >> > >> I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull > >> requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old > site > >> there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people > weren't > >> communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json > of > >> the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to > deploy > >> that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. > >> > >> The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of > >> software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that > Chipy.org > >> should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on > >> something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that > we > >> currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions > issues, > >> etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More > >> importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really > >> shouldn't need admining. > >> > >> > >> What can you do to help > >> ================== > >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design > experience > >> would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull > >> request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It > would > >> be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some > >> great advice. > >> > >> I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to > bring > >> something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can > >> find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org > >> > >> I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have > two > >> lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can > >> start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at > >> http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy > >> [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion > >> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service > >> _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[etc] -- sheila From emperorcezar at gmail.com Mon May 21 23:47:25 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:47:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm all about answering questions. :) On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > This is intuitive to some of us, but if someone is completely new, > maybe they don't know how to do all of this. > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: > > If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to > > setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. > [etc] > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Tue May 22 00:24:43 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 17:24:43 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Valentina Kibuyaga: Signup for a free plan here: https://github.com/signup/free . Remember your username and password. After you sign up for a free plan then follow the tutorial on setting up git http://help.github.com/win-set-up-git/ (if you are on mac or linux then choose that in the first paragraph). After that fork the repository once you are logged in. If you have questions you can contact me through Skype which my username is zitterbewegung or by phone at (630) 384-9637 Maybe we ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > I'm all about answering questions. :) > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >> This is intuitive to some of us, but if someone is completely new, >> maybe they don't know how to do all of this. >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joshua Herman >> wrote: >> > If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to >> > setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. >> [etc] >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From namusoke at hotmail.com Tue May 22 00:25:38 2012 From: namusoke at hotmail.com (Valentina Kibuyaga) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 17:25:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Thanks for responding. Over the weekend, I created a github account and forked the github repository. I will read the README file and follow the instructions to setup the environment. Thank you, Valentina Kibuyaga > From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:23:00 -0500 > To: chicago at python.org > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > > If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to > setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga > wrote: > > I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at > > programming. > > > > Please instruct me in how I can be of assistance. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Valentina Kibuyaga > > ________________________________ > > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 > > From: emperorcezar at gmail.com > > To: chicago at python.org > > Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > > > > > > Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on > > Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most > > minor of them. > > > > Code complication and organization > > ========================== > > > > Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. > > Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. > > Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or > > just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in > > there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter > > information, a place to propose a talk, etc. > > > > The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out > > correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory > > structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses > > django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. > > > > System administration tasks > > ===================== > > > > The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there > > are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and > > media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. > > > > > > What my plan is > > ============ > > > > All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to > > implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. > > > > There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a > > clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] > > project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could > > be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as > > talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. > > > > Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest > > thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has > > finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo > > that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only > > real way to go with something that complicated. > > > > The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over > > code from the old site. > > > > I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull > > requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site > > there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't > > communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of > > the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy > > that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. > > > > The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of > > software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org > > should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on > > something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we > > currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, > > etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More > > importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really > > shouldn't need admining. > > > > > > What can you do to help > > ================== > > People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience > > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull > > request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would > > be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some > > great advice. > > > > I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring > > something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can > > find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org > > > > I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two > > lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can > > start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at > > http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github > > > > Thanks! > > > > [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy > > [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion > > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service > > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would fork the github repository first. > > ---Profile:--- > > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga > > wrote: > >> I would like to help in anyway possible; however, I am a novice at > >> programming. > >> > >> Please instruct me in how I can be of assistance. > >> > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Valentina Kibuyaga > >> ________________________________ > >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:06:49 -0500 > >> From: emperorcezar at gmail.com > >> To: chicago at python.org > >> Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > >> > >> > >> Few days ago. I did work and brought the Chipy.org up to date with master on > >> Github. The current site has some real issues, the design being the most > >> minor of them. > >> > >> Code complication and organization > >> ========================== > >> > >> Currently the code[1] itself is way over complicated for what the site is. > >> Pinax is an _ok_ platform, but in it's old incarnation, it's way overkill. > >> Take a look at the code. There is lots of cruft in there that's unused or > >> just not useful such as tribes, swap, bookmarks, etc. Even with all this in > >> there, there isn't things that could be useful, such as presenter > >> information, a place to propose a talk, etc. > >> > >> The structure of the code has issues also. Settings aren't broken out > >> correctly. The media directory lives in the code directory. The directory > >> structure can go too many levels. There are no real db migrations. It uses > >> django-piston (which can't be installed using pip). It goes on. > >> > >> System administration tasks > >> ===================== > >> > >> The system it is on has some major issues. The first of all being that there > >> are many permissions issues and the machine is behind on updates. The db and > >> media isn't backed up. There's no staging setup, no real way to deploy. > >> > >> > >> What my plan is > >> ============ > >> > >> All the above resulted in the situation where changes are difficult to > >> implement, and even more difficult to deploy in an easy or automated maner. > >> > >> There are two major things I'm planning to do with the site. The first is a > >> clean state implementation. My plan is to start with the Symposium[2] > >> project. Symposium is a new Pinax project for conference websites. It could > >> be used to introduce some very useful features to the Chipy site such as > >> talk proposals, easier meeting scheduling, etc. > >> > >> Symposium is used for the Pycon and Djangocon sites. It's not the easiest > >> thing to setup, but it provides a good starting point and I'm glad Pinax has > >> finally gone in the correct direction by making the project a github repo > >> that you can fork and develop on top of. Which in my opinion is the only > >> real way to go with something that complicated. > >> > >> The plan is to set that up, get some new templates in place, and port over > >> code from the old site. > >> > >> I plan to use the git flow development method and github pull > >> requests/issues for features and code review 90% of things. On the old site > >> there was a lot of development going on in the backend that people weren't > >> communicating. If you remember the email from Carl recently about json of > >> the talks. I implemented that and found out only when I went in to deploy > >> that someone had setup piston in the repo, but it was never deployed. > >> > >> The system itself. The Chipy site should not be a complicated piece of > >> software. In the world of PaaS[3] there isn't really a reason that Chipy.org > >> should be running on it's own VM/Slice. Chipy.org should be running on > >> something like Heroku/Dotcloud/Gondor/Etc. to avoid the situation that we > >> currently face on the system of it being out of date, permissions issues, > >> etc. This would allow us to easily spin up staging instances. More > >> importantly, it would remove the burden of admining a system that really > >> shouldn't need admining. > >> > >> > >> What can you do to help > >> ================== > >> People with Django experience, and especially anyone with design experience > >> would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> If you do want to help and don't have experience, you can submit a pull > >> request and we can review it and make sure everything is in order. It would > >> be a good chance for you to have your coding looked over and gather some > >> great advice. > >> > >> I'm also looking for feature suggestions and requests. The best way to bring > >> something up is as an issue or a pull request in the repo, which you can > >> find at https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org > >> > >> I'm a huge fan of pull requests being feature requests, so if you have two > >> lines of code ready to go, start a pull request and the discussion can > >> start. For an idea of that workflow, take a look at > >> http://zachholman.com/talk/how-github-uses-github-to-build-github > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/brianray/Chipy > >> [2] https://github.com/pinax/symposion > >> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service > >> _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dave at dwink.net Tue May 22 00:58:30 2012 From: dave at dwink.net (David Harks) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 17:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy site code Message-ID: I grabbed the site from github and was happily installing stuff in my virtualenv, when: Obtaining pinax-theme-bootstrap from git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap (from -r requirements/base.txt (line 23)) Updating /Users/dharks/Documents/code/chipyenv/src/pinax-theme-bootstrap clone (to 2.0-less) Could not find a tag or branch '2.0-less', assuming commit. fatal: ambiguous argument '2.0-less': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. Use '--' to separate paths from revisions Looks like it's because of this in requirements/base.txt: -e git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap On github, I'm only seeing a 0.1.X-less branch, not 2.0-less. Is the intended version the master, or the older branch? Thanks! d David W. Harks dave at dwink.net From danieltpeters at gmail.com Tue May 22 01:07:43 2012 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy site code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had the same problem. I think I just changed the requirements file and grabbed an older version. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Harks wrote: > I grabbed the site from github and was happily installing stuff in my > virtualenv, when: > > Obtaining pinax-theme-bootstrap from git+git:// > github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap(from -r requirements/base.txt (line 23)) > Updating /Users/dharks/Documents/code/chipyenv/src/pinax-theme-bootstrap > clone (to 2.0-less) > Could not find a tag or branch '2.0-less', assuming commit. > fatal: ambiguous argument '2.0-less': unknown revision or path not in the > working tree. > Use '--' to separate paths from revisions > > Looks like it's because of this in requirements/base.txt: > -e git+git:// > github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap > > On github, I'm only seeing a 0.1.X-less branch, not 2.0-less. Is the > intended version the master, or the older branch? > > Thanks! > > d > > David W. Harks > dave at dwink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue May 22 01:24:21 2012 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:24:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy site code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That looks like a problem in pinax repo, right? If so, be sure and post this to the pinax issue tracker. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > I had the same problem.? I think I just changed the requirements file and > grabbed an older version. > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Harks wrote: >> >> I grabbed the site from github and was happily installing stuff in my >> virtualenv, when: >> >> Obtaining pinax-theme-bootstrap from >> git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap >> (from -r requirements/base.txt (line 23)) >> ?Updating /Users/dharks/Documents/code/chipyenv/src/pinax-theme-bootstrap >> clone (to 2.0-less) >> ?Could not find a tag or branch '2.0-less', assuming commit. >> fatal: ambiguous argument '2.0-less': unknown revision or path not in the >> working tree. >> Use '--' to separate paths from revisions >> >> Looks like it's because of this in requirements/base.txt: >> -e >> git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap >> >> On github, I'm only seeing a 0.1.X-less branch, not 2.0-less. Is the >> intended version the master, or the older branch? >> >> Thanks! >> >> d >> >> David W. Harks >> dave at dwink.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From dave at dwink.net Tue May 22 01:47:28 2012 From: dave at dwink.net (David Harks) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:47:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy site code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CC70E2C-08E7-43F8-BD5B-C9C1F1195634@dwink.net> No, it's an issue with the requirements file, specifically the '@2.0-less'. I've got the symposion stuff up and running now; I had to adjust the project directory name from 'chipy.org', to 'chipy' (the '.' confused the module loader), and adjust the ROOT_URLCONF to just 'urls' instead of symposion_project.urls. I'm committing the changes and will issue a pull request shortly. On May 21, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > That looks like a problem in pinax repo, right? > > If so, be sure and post this to the pinax issue tracker. > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: >> I had the same problem. I think I just changed the requirements file and >> grabbed an older version. >> >> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Harks wrote: >>> >>> I grabbed the site from github and was happily installing stuff in my >>> virtualenv, when: >>> >>> Obtaining pinax-theme-bootstrap from >>> git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap >>> (from -r requirements/base.txt (line 23)) >>> Updating /Users/dharks/Documents/code/chipyenv/src/pinax-theme-bootstrap >>> clone (to 2.0-less) >>> Could not find a tag or branch '2.0-less', assuming commit. >>> fatal: ambiguous argument '2.0-less': unknown revision or path not in the >>> working tree. >>> Use '--' to separate paths from revisions >>> >>> Looks like it's because of this in requirements/base.txt: >>> -e >>> git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap >>> >>> On github, I'm only seeing a 0.1.X-less branch, not 2.0-less. Is the >>> intended version the master, or the older branch? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> d >>> >>> David W. Harks >>> dave at dwink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago David W. Harks dave at dwink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Tue May 22 02:06:40 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your welcome Valentina. Congrats on figuring it out! ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Valentina Kibuyaga wrote: > Thanks for allowing me to part of the process, and if I have any questions, > I will?definitely?ask! > > Valentina Kibuyaga > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:47:25 -0500 > From: emperorcezar at gmail.com > To: chicago at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework > > I'm all about answering questions. :) > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > > This is intuitive to some of us, but if someone is completely new, > maybe they don't know how to do all of this. > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: >> If you want to help out with this follow the readme instructions to >> setup the environment. I would fork the github repository first. > [etc] > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue May 22 02:16:17 2012 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:16:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy site code In-Reply-To: <5CC70E2C-08E7-43F8-BD5B-C9C1F1195634@dwink.net> References: <5CC70E2C-08E7-43F8-BD5B-C9C1F1195634@dwink.net> Message-ID: I haven't changed anything from symposium other than the directory name, so it's likely broken in both. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:47 PM, David Harks wrote: > No, it's an issue with the requirements file, specifically the > '@2.0-less'. > > I've got the symposion stuff up and running now; I had to adjust the > project directory name from 'chipy.org', to 'chipy' (the '.' confused the > module loader), and adjust the ROOT_URLCONF to just 'urls' instead of > symposion_project.urls. > > I'm committing the changes and will issue a pull request shortly. > > On May 21, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > That looks like a problem in pinax repo, right? > > If so, be sure and post this to the pinax issue tracker. > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: > > I had the same problem. I think I just changed the requirements file and > > grabbed an older version. > > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Harks wrote: > > > I grabbed the site from github and was happily installing stuff in my > > virtualenv, when: > > > Obtaining pinax-theme-bootstrap from > > > git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap > > (from -r requirements/base.txt (line 23)) > > Updating /Users/dharks/Documents/code/chipyenv/src/pinax-theme-bootstrap > > clone (to 2.0-less) > > Could not find a tag or branch '2.0-less', assuming commit. > > fatal: ambiguous argument '2.0-less': unknown revision or path not in the > > working tree. > > Use '--' to separate paths from revisions > > > Looks like it's because of this in requirements/base.txt: > > -e > > > git+git://github.com/pinax/pinax-theme-bootstrap.git at 2.0-less#egg=pinax-theme-bootstrap > > > On github, I'm only seeing a 0.1.X-less branch, not 2.0-less. 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Okay, then I will be in attendance next week. Happy Memorial Day weekend!Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 09:11:41 -0500 From: shekay at gmail.com To: chicago at python.org Subject: Re: [Chicago] Chipy.org site rework The pumpingstationone group isn't meeting tomorrow, they meet next week. On May 23, 2012 8:09 AM, "Valentina Kibuyaga" wrote: > > I will be in attendance tomorrow. > > Thank you. [...] > (details on the python office hours at ps1: > > ) > > > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 24 21:31:31 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:31:31 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] June's Meeting: The Python Open Data Summit on Thursday June 14th Message-ID: Registration is now open: http://chipy.org/ This will be a special meeting held together with OpenGovChicago focused on Open Data and efforts underway that utilize Python heavily to process this data. This will also be a great opportunity to hold our first meeting at http://www.1871.com/. This is super duper exiting folks and this will be our best meeting ever. There will be presentations from OpenGovChicago and we will have our own. If your an Open Data expert, chime in and propose your talk. This is going to be great! More details to follow; however RSVP today and save that date! Cheers, Brian PS (Coming Soon in July) we will welcome back a presentation from our long time member Adrian Holovaty-- co-creator of the Django Web framework, founder of EveryBlock http://www.everyblock.com/, and an advocate of "journalism via computer programming." I also promised ping pong tables. -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 From livne at uchicago.edu Mon May 28 23:40:53 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:40:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC3F0E5.7010606@uchicago.edu> Dear All, I would like to install a local package management server like PyPI. I tried to install chisop but encountered many problems regarding dependency versions (unclear which django it's using: 1.4 vs. 1.3). Can someone recommend a good PyPI server that runs on linux, has user accounts and preferably a nice web front-end? Thanks, Oren -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Mon May 28 23:53:08 2012 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC3F0E5.7010606@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC3F0E5.7010606@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC3F3C4.6010902@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From livne at uchicago.edu Mon May 28 23:27:16 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation Message-ID: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> Dear All, I would like to install a local package management server like PyPI. I tried to install chisop but encountered many problems regarding dependency versions (unclear which django it's using: 1.4 vs. 1.3). Can someone recommend a good PyPI server that runs on linux, has user accounts and preferably a nice web front-end? Thanks, Oren -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Tue May 29 00:07:23 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:07:23 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: It seems like they want you to use https://github.com/benliles/djangopypi now. I think this replaced chisop ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear All, > > I would like to install a local package management server like PyPI. I tried > to install chisop but encountered many problems regarding dependency > versions (unclear which django it's using: 1.4 vs. 1.3). Can someone > recommend a good PyPI server that runs on linux, has user accounts and > preferably a nice web front-end? > > Thanks, > Oren > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From chicagomackay at gmail.com Tue May 29 05:24:10 2012 From: chicagomackay at gmail.com (Alex MacKay) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:24:10 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge Message-ID: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> I am looking for someone that can assist me. I am learning Python, need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. I understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial questions, etc. I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. Starbucks is a good place to meet. Is there anyone in the area that is available and can assist. Thanks. From johnstoner2 at gmail.com Tue May 29 05:46:34 2012 From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: It should already be there. Is there a particular build you want or something? On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: > I am looking for someone that can assist me. ?I am learning Python, need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. ?I understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial questions, etc. > I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. ?Starbucks is a good place to meet. ?Is there anyone in the area that is available and can assist. ?Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- blogs: http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ 'In knowledge is power; in? wisdom, humility.' From chicagomackay at gmail.com Tue May 29 14:10:27 2012 From: chicagomackay at gmail.com (Alex MacKay) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:10:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have basic questions for someone that has not really developed on Unix, coded in Python or object oriented language, making sure I install at the root directory on Apple, how I make the version I am installing the default when starting Python, etc, etc, etc, etc. On May 28, 2012, at 10:46 PM, John Stoner wrote: > It should already be there. Is there a particular build you want or something? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: >> I am looking for someone that can assist me. I am learning Python, need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. I understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial questions, etc. >> I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. Starbucks is a good place to meet. Is there anyone in the area that is available and can assist. Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > blogs: > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From joe at germuska.com Tue May 29 14:29:12 2012 From: joe at germuska.com (Joe Germuska) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:29:12 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D338CD0-34CC-4D19-916A-04E9FD1667F1@germuska.com> For installing correctly: http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install/osx/ That might keep you busy until you find the in-person person you seek... Joe On May 28, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: > I am looking for someone that can assist me. I am learning Python, need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. I understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial questions, etc. > I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. Starbucks is a good place to meet. Is there anyone in the area that is available and can assist. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Joe Germuska Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com * http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska "Participation. That's what's gonna save the human race." --Pete Seeger From livne at uchicago.edu Tue May 29 14:54:12 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> Thank you so much for you responses, Joshua and Tal! Joshua: it seems chisop is a GUI built on top of djangopypi. Neither worked for me. I ended up using http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ClueReleaseManager Tal: this is what the manager does for you, but additionally provides security roles and supposedly an easy way to upload/download a file that is in line with pip. I have another question: can someone recommend a good tutorial of the python language for scientific computing people? I'm a former Java and MATLAB developer and am looking to use python for high-performance computing applications involving large networks. The tutorial should be comprehensive enough, but not a reference manual. Thanks, Oren From shekay at gmail.com Tue May 29 15:04:46 2012 From: shekay at gmail.com (sheila miguez) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: On the first and third Thursday of the month there are python classes at pumpingstationone http://pumpingstationone.org/2012/05/learn-programming-with-python-office-hours/ I'm going to try to attend to help with beginners and more advanced people will be there to help with experienced people. I use python on a Mac and instead of using the default install I install homebrew and brew install python. So, there are a few different ways people deal with python on macs. * homebrew install * python install from the python site * default Mac install (meh) On May 29, 2012 7:10 AM, "Alex MacKay" wrote: > I have basic questions for someone that has not really developed on Unix, > coded in Python or object oriented language, making sure I install at the > root directory on Apple, how I make the version I am installing the default > when starting Python, etc, etc, etc, etc. > > > On May 28, 2012, at 10:46 PM, John Stoner wrote: > > > It should already be there. Is there a particular build you want or > something? > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay > wrote: > >> I am looking for someone that can assist me. I am learning Python, > need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. I > understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial > questions, etc. > >> I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. Starbucks is a > good place to meet. Is there anyone in the area that is available and can > assist. Thanks. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > -- > > blogs: > > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > > 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:02:17 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:02:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: I looked at some SciPy conferences and they had a tutorial http://conference.scipy.org/scipy2011/tutorials.php#anthony ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Thank you so much for you responses, Joshua and Tal! > > Joshua: it seems chisop is a GUI built on top of djangopypi. Neither worked > for me. I ended up using http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ClueReleaseManager > > Tal: this is what the manager does for you, but additionally provides > security roles and supposedly an easy way to upload/download a file that is > in line with pip. > > I have another question: can someone recommend a good tutorial of the python > language for scientific computing people? I'm a former Java and MATLAB > developer and am looking to use python for high-performance computing > applications involving large networks. The tutorial should be comprehensive > enough, but not a reference manual. > > Thanks, > Oren > From johnstoner2 at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:50:01 2012 From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: For development I do Python in an Ubuntu image under Virtualbox on my Mac. For just learning, I don't really see a problem with the default install. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > On the first and third Thursday of the month there are python classes at > pumpingstationone > http://pumpingstationone.org/2012/05/learn-programming-with-python-office-hours/ > > I'm going to try to attend to help with beginners and more advanced people > will be there to help with experienced people. > > I use python on a Mac and instead of using the default install I install > homebrew and brew install python. > > So, there are a few different ways people deal with python on macs. > * homebrew install > * python install from the python site > * default Mac install (meh) > > On May 29, 2012 7:10 AM, "Alex MacKay" wrote: >> >> I have basic questions for someone that has not really developed on Unix, >> coded in Python or object oriented language, making sure I install at the >> root directory on Apple, how I make the version I am installing the default >> when starting Python, etc, etc, etc, etc. >> >> >> On May 28, 2012, at 10:46 PM, John Stoner wrote: >> >> > It should already be there. Is there a particular build you want or >> > something? >> > >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay >> > wrote: >> >> I am looking for someone that can assist me. ?I am learning Python, >> >> need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. ?I >> >> understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial >> >> questions, etc. >> >> I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. ?Starbucks is a >> >> good place to meet. ?Is there anyone in the area that is available and can >> >> assist. ?Thanks. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > blogs: >> > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >> > 'In knowledge is power; in ?wisdom, humility.' >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- blogs: http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ 'In knowledge is power; in? wisdom, humility.' From tim.saylor at gmail.com Wed May 30 07:19:38 2012 From: tim.saylor at gmail.com (Tim Saylor) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for Python knowledge In-Reply-To: References: <2AB9B8C5-FB82-434F-AA83-3BCE4F5C5814@gmail.com> Message-ID: To be clear, it's not a python class, it's a python study group and experienced pythonista office hours. There's no lessons involved, you study on your own and bring questions that have you stumped. If you come there will be plenty of people who can help you get started. Just wanted to clarify because last time we had a bunch of people asking when the class started, and I don't want attendees to be disappointed. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > On the first and third Thursday of the month there are python classes at > pumpingstationone > http://pumpingstationone.org/2012/05/learn-programming-with-python-office-hours/ > > I'm going to try to attend to help with beginners and more advanced people > will be there to help with experienced people. > > I use python on a Mac and instead of using the default install I install > homebrew and brew install python. > > So, there are a few different ways people deal with python on macs. > * homebrew install > * python install from the python site > * default Mac install (meh) > On May 29, 2012 7:10 AM, "Alex MacKay" wrote: > >> I have basic questions for someone that has not really developed on Unix, >> coded in Python or object oriented language, making sure I install at the >> root directory on Apple, how I make the version I am installing the default >> when starting Python, etc, etc, etc, etc. >> >> >> On May 28, 2012, at 10:46 PM, John Stoner wrote: >> >> > It should already be there. Is there a particular build you want or >> something? >> > >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Alex MacKay >> wrote: >> >> I am looking for someone that can assist me. I am learning Python, >> need to know how to install correctly on Mac, basics of language etc. I >> understand the value of books but I am looking for assistance with initial >> questions, etc. >> >> I live in the River North / Gold Coast area of Chicago. Starbucks is >> a good place to meet. Is there anyone in the area that is available and >> can assist. 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URL: From wscullin at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:52:20 2012 From: wscullin at gmail.com (William Scullin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:52:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Hi Oren, What area of science? I may be able to give you some domain-specific pointers off-list. For general knowledge, past SC and SciPy tutorial videos are online and Hans Petter Langtangen has a couple of decent books out with my preference to "Python Scripting for Computational Science" for folks coming from Matlab. - William On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Thank you so much for you responses, Joshua and Tal! > > Joshua: it seems chisop is a GUI built on top of djangopypi. Neither worked > for me. I ended up using http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ClueReleaseManager > > Tal: this is what the manager does for you, but additionally provides > security roles and supposedly an easy way to upload/download a file that is > in line with pip. > > I have another question: can someone recommend a good tutorial of the python > language for scientific computing people? I'm a former Java and MATLAB > developer and am looking to use python for high-performance computing > applications involving large networks. The tutorial should be comprehensive > enough, but not a reference manual. > > Thanks, > Oren > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From livne at uchicago.edu Wed May 30 19:39:25 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:39:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC65B4D.5000205@uchicago.edu> Dear William, Thank you for the book reference! It is likely exactly what I needed! Believe it or not, I chose python for my application last week inspired by your talk about ANL's priorities for scientific computing languages (found online recording). So far I've programmed all my HPC projects in C, C++, and Java. The application area is graph theory in human genetics. Oren On 05/30/2012 10:52 AM, William Scullin wrote: > Hi Oren, > > What area of science? I may be able to give you some domain-specific > pointers off-list. For general knowledge, past SC and SciPy tutorial > videos are online and Hans Petter Langtangen has a couple of decent > books out with my preference to "Python Scripting for Computational > Science" for folks coming from Matlab. > > - William > From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Wed May 30 21:40:53 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:40:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: <4FC65B4D.5000205@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> <4FC65B4D.5000205@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: What kind of database are you using for your graph theory computations? I am interested in doing graph computations also. ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear William, > > Thank you for the book reference! It is likely exactly what I needed! > > Believe it or not, I chose python for my application last week inspired by > your talk about ANL's priorities for scientific computing languages (found > online recording). So far I've programmed all my HPC projects in C, C++, > and Java. > > The application area is graph theory in human genetics. > > Oren > > > On 05/30/2012 10:52 AM, William Scullin wrote: > >> Hi Oren, >> >> What area of science? I may be able to give you some domain-specific >> pointers off-list. For general knowledge, past SC and SciPy tutorial >> videos are online and Hans Petter Langtangen has a couple of decent >> books out with my preference to "Python Scripting for Computational >> Science" for folks coming from Matlab. >> >> - William >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Wed May 30 21:42:10 2012 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:42:10 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Happy hour Message-ID: Hey all, I just wanted to share a meetup that I help organize: Chicago Dev Happy Hour. Normally I try and find sponsors to buy us alcohol, so we can schmooze, talk geek, and have someone else pick up the tab. This week we don't have a sponsor, but we'd still love to have you join us. Details are here: http://www.meetup.com/chicagodev/ Free to join, we're happy to have anyone, and we don't discriminate against any language...honestly. Please join at your convenience. Tonight, 7pm, Monk's downtown. Cheers, -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From shekay at pobox.com Wed May 30 22:52:24 2012 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:52:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Happy hour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh cool, the potluck sounds neat. If you fill up, maybe pick a good weather outdoors place for it to get more room. Like Wells Park, in the same area. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM, JP Bader wrote: > Hey all, > > I just wanted to share a meetup that I help organize: Chicago Dev > Happy Hour. ?Normally I try and find sponsors to buy us alcohol, so we > can schmooze, talk geek, and have someone else pick up the tab. ?This > week we don't have a sponsor, but we'd still love to have you join us. > > Details are here: http://www.meetup.com/chicagodev/ > > Free to join, we're happy to have anyone, and we don't discriminate > against any language...honestly. ?Please join at your convenience. > Tonight, 7pm, Monk's downtown. > > Cheers, > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- sheila From livne at uchicago.edu Wed May 30 23:27:06 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:27:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyPI Server Implementation In-Reply-To: References: <4FC3EDB4.6070203@uchicago.edu> <4FC4C6F4.7000903@uchicago.edu> <4FC65B4D.5000205@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC690AA.7060302@uchicago.edu> This hasn't been decided yet, but you can download my own test graph collection here http://code.google.com/p/lamg/downloads/list On 5/30/2012 2:40 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > What kind of database are you using for your graph theory > computations? I am interested in doing graph computations also. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Oren Livne > wrote: > > Dear William, > > Thank you for the book reference! It is likely exactly what I needed! > > Believe it or not, I chose python for my application last week > inspired by your talk about ANL's priorities for scientific > computing languages (found online recording). So far I've > programmed all my HPC projects in C, C++, and Java. > > The application area is graph theory in human genetics. > > Oren > > > On 05/30/2012 10:52 AM, William Scullin wrote: > > Hi Oren, > > What area of science? I may be able to give you some > domain-specific > pointers off-list. For general knowledge, past SC and SciPy > tutorial > videos are online and Hans Petter Langtangen has a couple of > decent > books out with my preference to "Python Scripting for > Computational > Science" for folks coming from Matlab. > > - William > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From livne at uchicago.edu Thu May 31 20:31:21 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:31:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx Message-ID: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Dear All, I have a 3600-node DAG. The draw() method is very slow and generates a bad layout, which looks like an undirected graph layout. Is there a faster and better option in python? Thanks, Oren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Thu May 31 20:33:47 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:33:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Graphviz might be better http://networkx.lanl.gov/reference/drawing.html#module-networkx.drawing.nx_agraph ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > draw() -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 31 20:55:59 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: I am not sure about networkx. But I presume it is something that spits out SVG no? If your ok with pushing (blitting) pixels yourself, I do know is that matplotlib uses AGG http://www.antigrain.com/ for one drawing backend. The author is probably still on this list and presents from time to time. Likewise, I believe you can go to Postscript or SVG with your own tools and let whatever rendering that needs done to be done on case by case basis. -- Brian Ray @brianray From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Thu May 31 21:04:03 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:04:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Pygraphviz can output SVG http://networkx.lanl.gov/pygraphviz/pygraphviz.pdfthe thing I suggested before. ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I am not sure about networkx. But I presume it is something that spits > out SVG no? > > If your ok with pushing (blitting) pixels yourself, I do know is that > matplotlib uses AGG http://www.antigrain.com/ for one drawing backend. > The author is probably still on this list and presents from time to > time. > > Likewise, I believe you can go to Postscript or SVG with your own > tools and let whatever rendering that needs done to be done on case by > case basis. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From livne at uchicago.edu Thu May 31 22:35:03 2012 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <4FC7D5F7.2020502@uchicago.edu> Unfortunately, networkx.pygraphviz_layout(graph) is also extremely slow. Why is a such small DAG taxing on those layout programs? One topologically-sort nodes and place them accordingly fairly quickly. Can I supply an initial guess (=guide) for node positions to the layout calls? Doesn't seem like it from the docs. Thanks, Oren On 05/31/2012 02:04 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > Pygraphviz can output SVG > http://networkx.lanl.gov/pygraphviz/pygraphviz.pdf the thing I > suggested before. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > > I am not sure about networkx. But I presume it is something that spits > out SVG no? > > If your ok with pushing (blitting) pixels yourself, I do know is that > matplotlib uses AGG http://www.antigrain.com/ for one drawing backend. > The author is probably still on this list and presents from time to > time. > > Likewise, I believe you can go to Postscript or SVG with your own > tools and let whatever rendering that needs done to be done on case by > case basis. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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RSVP if you want to be cool. -- Brian Ray @brianray From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Thu May 31 23:21:48 2012 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:21:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: <4FC7D5F7.2020502@uchicago.edu> References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> <4FC7D5F7.2020502@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Uh, now that I think about it you might want to layout the 3600 node DAG using a spring layout http://networkx.lanl.gov/reference/generated/networkx.drawing.layout.spring_layout.html#networkx.drawing.layout.spring_layout You might want to consider exporting the graph in graphviz and doing drawing in a different program like Gephi. ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > Unfortunately, networkx.pygraphviz_layout(graph) is also extremely slow. > Why is a such small DAG taxing on those layout programs? One > topologically-sort nodes and place them accordingly fairly quickly. Can I > supply an initial guess (=guide) for node positions to the layout calls? > Doesn't seem like it from the docs. > > Thanks, > Oren > > > On 05/31/2012 02:04 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > > Pygraphviz can output SVG > http://networkx.lanl.gov/pygraphviz/pygraphviz.pdf the thing I suggested > before. > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> I am not sure about networkx. But I presume it is something that spits >> out SVG no? >> >> If your ok with pushing (blitting) pixels yourself, I do know is that >> matplotlib uses AGG http://www.antigrain.com/ for one drawing backend. >> The author is probably still on this list and presents from time to >> time. >> >> Likewise, I believe you can go to Postscript or SVG with your own >> tools and let whatever rendering that needs done to be done on case by >> case basis. >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu May 31 23:28:27 2012 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:28:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy Shirts Message-ID: As requested... http://chipy.logosoftwear.com/ -- Brian Ray @brianray From jdh2358 at gmail.com Thu May 31 23:48:46 2012 From: jdh2358 at gmail.com (John Hunter) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:48:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Drawing DAG in networkx In-Reply-To: References: <4FC7B8F9.5070807@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Networkx already has a matplotlib backend, so I don't think this route will help. On May 31, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I am not sure about networkx. But I presume it is something that spits > out SVG no? > > If your ok with pushing (blitting) pixels yourself, I do know is that > matplotlib uses AGG http://www.antigrain.com/ for one drawing backend. > The author is probably still on this list and presents from time to > time. > > Likewise, I believe you can go to Postscript or SVG with your own > tools and let whatever rendering that needs done to be done on case by > case basis. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago