[Chicago] Python and web

Jonathan Hayward christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com
Sun Mar 14 21:52:29 CET 2010


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Massimo Di Pierro
<mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu>wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> web2py is doing well.
>
> We we have 1700 users on the mailing list and we have added lots of
> features over time. We have 2-10 commits every day. Almost all of them are
> about new features. We always managed to do so without breaking backward
> compatibility. We are now at version 1.76.5.
>
> The big discussion on our mailing list these days is plugins. We have a
> plugin system (mostly a web interface to package a subset of an app and
> install a subset of a app). We also have a system of "components" i.e.
> sub-model-view-controllers that work as autonomous entities and can be
> embedded in pages via ajax. plugins usually define components (like
> comments, tagging, etc) but can be more general that that.
>
> Some people are asking for new/different features. Some people want a
> strict set of rules to make sure plugins can "plug and play" without any
> tweaking (I agree with that). Some people want to re-factor the current
> system and not to allow any application subset to be a plugin only
> components. This would provide more isolation of plugins but limit what they
> can do. Other people want web2py level plugins as opposed to application
> level plugins. This would make plugins reusable across multiple apps but
> would make apps not portable and introduce dependencies.
>
> We are moving to a new web server (Rocket).
>
> We have completely re-factored the Database Abstraction Layer so that it is
> still backward compatible but much more modular and the code is cleaner. It
> will be easy to build adapters for the various NoDBs out there. It is in
> trunk but has not replaced the current DAL yet because needs more tests.
>
> What's up with you?
>
>
Right now I've been jobhunting and I may be writing a technical book soon.
I've been continuing to write for my website. Things have been a bit quiet.


> Massimo
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Jonathan Hayward wrote:
>
> Good to hear from you! How are you? How is web2py progressing?
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Massimo Di Pierro <
> mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> You said: "Jonathan Hayward, a Senior Web Developer who cares deeply about
>> usability"
>> so I thought I should mention I use web2py. ;-)
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Jonathan Hayward wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Atul Varma <varmaa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I use bare WSGI (PEP 333) to implement REST APIs which are used by JS
>>> code running in browsers.
>>>
>>> - Atul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jonathan Hayward
>>>> <christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Could I ask a brief and informal survey:
>>>> > For those of you who are using Python for the web, what are you using?
>>>> > Python and bare CGI? Python and a homebrew framework? Python and
>>>> Django?
>>>> > Python and TurboGears? Python and something else?
>>>>
>>>> Django.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking into using another layer on top of Django:
>>>> http://www.pinaxproject.com/
>>>>
>>>> In the next month or so I will likely redo one of my sites using it.
>>>>
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> Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML
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→ Jonathan Hayward, a Senior Web Developer who cares deeply about usability
→ www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhayward • jonathan.hayward at pobox.com
→ Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, Perl, PHP,
Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML
→ With a good interest in the human side of computing and making software
and websites a joy to use
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