From carl at personnelware.com  Mon Nov  2 03:01:00 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:01:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
Message-ID: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>

It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?

Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
care as long as it results in someone talking about something.

-- 
Carl K

From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov  2 03:07:17 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:07:17 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>

* Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu

I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system, which 
is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python app into a 
Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not neat at all 
and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with poisonous, man-eating 
crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.

(I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not 
ready quite yet.)

On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>
> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>
>    

From wscullin at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 03:48:40 2009
From: wscullin at gmail.com (William Scullin)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:48:40 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>

James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.

Time:
"Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."

Content:
Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%

Abstract:
Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
confidently proceed with future projects with Python.

( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )

Slides:
http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en

- William


On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>
> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From danieltpeters at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 12:14:19 2009
From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 05:14:19 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Idea for a brief talk at next meeting
Message-ID: <9c8415cd0911020314q5f8bb30fy5415fd060201726c@mail.gmail.com>

I would love to do a brief talk on MIT's OpenCourseWare class that uses
Python as an introduction to computing.  I've done a bit of research on why
they made the change from a scheme based course to python.  I've taken the
class (via OCW) as well,  so I can talk about how they use python language
specific constructs to frame an introduction to computation.

Daniel Peters
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From pfein at pobox.com  Mon Nov  2 16:24:02 2009
From: pfein at pobox.com (Pete)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:24:02 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
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On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Tal Liron wrote:

> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>
> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,  
> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python  
> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not  
> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with  
> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.

-1 This sounds more like a talk about Debian/Launchpad than Python,  
something that's going to to be of limited interest to a large %age of  
our audience.

If it can be made to focus specifically on Python issues (ie, how do  
you go from a distutils/setuptools install script to a .deb?), I'd be  
more amenable.

From g at rre.tt  Mon Nov  2 16:36:54 2009
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:36:54 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>

I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
presentations.

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com> wrote:
> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
>
> Time:
> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
>
> Content:
> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
>
> Abstract:
> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>
> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
>
> Slides:
> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
>
> - William
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>
>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From g at rre.tt  Mon Nov  2 16:45:26 2009
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:45:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <6B16AC2B-DBA5-4178-8EAD-1744573B0C2B@pobox.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
	<6B16AC2B-DBA5-4178-8EAD-1744573B0C2B@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <ce2570e20911020745p49e14c7ehf00d0cb629d97949@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Pete <pfein at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>
>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>
>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system, which is
>> actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python app into a
>> Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not neat at all and in
>> fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with poisonous, man-eating crocodiles.
>> I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>
> -1 This sounds more like a talk about Debian/Launchpad than Python,
> something that's going to to be of limited interest to a large %age of our
> audience.
>
> If it can be made to focus specifically on Python issues (ie, how do you go
> from a distutils/setuptools install script to a .deb?), I'd be more
> amenable.

Heh, heh, another opportunity to disagree with Pete :)

I'll +1 this -- it's got plenty of Python and Tal will make it interesting.

Garrett

From samir at esamir.com  Mon Nov  2 17:07:53 2009
From: samir at esamir.com (Samir Faci)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:07:53 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Idea for a brief talk at next meeting
In-Reply-To: <9c8415cd0911020314q5f8bb30fy5415fd060201726c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9c8415cd0911020314q5f8bb30fy5415fd060201726c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9db93b0e0911020807s4de21834jd796424ee58685cd@mail.gmail.com>

wow.. scheme for an intro course seems pretty hardcore.  How many
freshmen can we make cry in under an hour?



On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would love to do a brief talk on MIT's OpenCourseWare class that uses
> Python as an introduction to computing.? I've done a bit of research on why
> they made the change from a scheme based course to python.? I've taken the
> class (via OCW) as well,? so I can talk about how they use python language
> specific constructs to frame an introduction to computation.
>
> Daniel Peters
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
--
Samir Faci
*insert title*
`fortune`

From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 18:19:11 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:19:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911020919i74e74875sb4dbd6fb793171be@mail.gmail.com>

They are giving the talk the Monday Nov 16 (right?)
http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171

So it would be best for them to give it to us first.  better for us to
have it after they have used the conference to practice at :)


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
> I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
> be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
> contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
> presentations.
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
>> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
>> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
>> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
>>
>> Time:
>> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
>>
>> Content:
>> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
>>
>> Abstract:
>> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
>> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
>> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
>> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
>> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
>> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
>> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
>> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
>> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
>> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
>> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
>> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
>> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
>> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
>> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
>> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>>
>> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
>>
>> Slides:
>> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
>>
>> - William
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>
>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl K
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Carl K

From g at rre.tt  Mon Nov  2 18:32:01 2009
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911020919i74e74875sb4dbd6fb793171be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911020919i74e74875sb4dbd6fb793171be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce2570e20911020932k3948904fy8e0ca838ce510563@mail.gmail.com>

It'd be a good synergy I think to give it us first -- we don't need
polish for goodness sake :)

So thoughts on opening up Nov for dedicated coverage of "Python for
Scientific and High Performance Computing" by the aforementioned
gang-of-three?

I realize it's a bit heavy handed to push the other volunteer topics
off for a month, so feel free to shoot this down.

Garrett

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:
> They are giving the talk the Monday Nov 16 (right?)
> http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171
>
> So it would be best for them to give it to us first. ?better for us to
> have it after they have used the conference to practice at :)
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
>> I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
>> be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
>> contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
>> presentations.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
>>> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
>>> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
>>> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
>>>
>>> Time:
>>> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
>>>
>>> Content:
>>> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
>>> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
>>> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
>>> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
>>> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
>>> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
>>> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
>>> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
>>> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
>>> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
>>> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
>>> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
>>> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
>>> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
>>> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
>>> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>>>
>>> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
>>>
>>> Slides:
>>> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
>>>
>>> - William
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>>>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>
>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carl K
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 18:50:11 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:50:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
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I am OK with dedicating the meeting - it's 3 speakers, so it will be
interesting.  we could give them boxing gloves.  even if they don't
start swinging, it will be fun to watch them try to type.

I personally want to see the PPA talk.  It could be squeezed into 30
min, but that's at odds with squeezing in more content and it would be
a shame to cut Q&A short.

If we pare or pair the full version of it with the Python at MIT it
would be a great meeting to encourage outsiders to come, like the
local Linux heads.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
> It'd be a good synergy I think to give it us first -- we don't need
> polish for goodness sake :)
>
> So thoughts on opening up Nov for dedicated coverage of "Python for
> Scientific and High Performance Computing" by the aforementioned
> gang-of-three?
>
> I realize it's a bit heavy handed to push the other volunteer topics
> off for a month, so feel free to shoot this down.
>
> Garrett
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They are giving the talk the Monday Nov 16 (right?)
>> http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171
>>
>> So it would be best for them to give it to us first. ?better for us to
>> have it after they have used the conference to practice at :)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
>>> I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
>>> be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
>>> contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
>>> presentations.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
>>>> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
>>>> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
>>>> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
>>>>
>>>> Time:
>>>> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
>>>>
>>>> Content:
>>>> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
>>>> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
>>>> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
>>>> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
>>>> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
>>>> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
>>>> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
>>>> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
>>>> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
>>>> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
>>>> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
>>>> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
>>>> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
>>>> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
>>>> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
>>>> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>>>>
>>>> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
>>>>
>>>> Slides:
>>>> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
>>>>
>>>> - William
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>>>>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carl K
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
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>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov  2 20:57:30 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:57:30 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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Hey guys,

No problem to postpone mine.

Also, I definitely would make it Python-centric. The point is that you will
come out of the talk knowing exactly how to push Python into Launchpad, and
eventually into Ubuntu. It's very different than pushing, say, C code.

I also thought to give a general introduction to Debian packaging, which of
course is not Python-specific, but I can limit that to a quick 5 minute
slideshow extravaganza.

-Tal

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am OK with dedicating the meeting - it's 3 speakers, so it will be
> interesting.  we could give them boxing gloves.  even if they don't
> start swinging, it will be fun to watch them try to type.
>
> I personally want to see the PPA talk.  It could be squeezed into 30
> min, but that's at odds with squeezing in more content and it would be
> a shame to cut Q&A short.
>
> If we pare or pair the full version of it with the Python at MIT it
> would be a great meeting to encourage outsiders to come, like the
> local Linux heads.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
> > It'd be a good synergy I think to give it us first -- we don't need
> > polish for goodness sake :)
> >
> > So thoughts on opening up Nov for dedicated coverage of "Python for
> > Scientific and High Performance Computing" by the aforementioned
> > gang-of-three?
> >
> > I realize it's a bit heavy handed to push the other volunteer topics
> > off for a month, so feel free to shoot this down.
> >
> > Garrett
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> They are giving the talk the Monday Nov 16 (right?)
> >> http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171
> >>
> >> So it would be best for them to give it to us first.  better for us to
> >> have it after they have used the conference to practice at :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
> >>> I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
> >>> be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
> >>> contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
> >>> presentations.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
> >>>> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
> >>>> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time. We'd
> >>>> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
> >>>>
> >>>> Time:
> >>>> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
> >>>>
> >>>> Content:
> >>>> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
> >>>>
> >>>> Abstract:
> >>>> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
> >>>> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
> >>>> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
> >>>> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
> >>>> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
> >>>> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
> >>>> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
> >>>> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
> >>>> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
> >>>> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
> >>>> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
> >>>> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
> >>>> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
> >>>> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
> >>>> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
> >>>> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
> >>>>
> >>>> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
> >>>>
> >>>> Slides:
> >>>>
> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
> >>>>
> >>>> - William
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
> >>>>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
> >>>>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
> >>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Carl K
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Chicago mailing list
> >>>>> Chicago at python.org
> >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Chicago mailing list
> >>>> Chicago at python.org
> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Chicago mailing list
> >>> Chicago at python.org
> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl K
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago mailing list
> >> Chicago at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov  2 21:03:40 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:03:40 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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Oops, I forgot that I'm giving a talk about Prudence, my open source REST
framework, for ACM on the 12th. It will be a much-expanded version of the
talk I gave at ChiPy a while ago, and will have a lot more Python in it.

So, conflict. Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?

Ooh, check out the hot picture of me:

http://www.chicagoacm.org/

-Tal


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com>wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> No problem to postpone mine.
>
> Also, I definitely would make it Python-centric. The point is that you will
> come out of the talk knowing exactly how to push Python into Launchpad, and
> eventually into Ubuntu. It's very different than pushing, say, C code.
>
> I also thought to give a general introduction to Debian packaging, which of
> course is not Python-specific, but I can limit that to a quick 5 minute
> slideshow extravaganza.
>
> -Tal
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am OK with dedicating the meeting - it's 3 speakers, so it will be
>> interesting.  we could give them boxing gloves.  even if they don't
>> start swinging, it will be fun to watch them try to type.
>>
>> I personally want to see the PPA talk.  It could be squeezed into 30
>> min, but that's at odds with squeezing in more content and it would be
>> a shame to cut Q&A short.
>>
>> If we pare or pair the full version of it with the Python at MIT it
>> would be a great meeting to encourage outsiders to come, like the
>> local Linux heads.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
>> > It'd be a good synergy I think to give it us first -- we don't need
>> > polish for goodness sake :)
>> >
>> > So thoughts on opening up Nov for dedicated coverage of "Python for
>> > Scientific and High Performance Computing" by the aforementioned
>> > gang-of-three?
>> >
>> > I realize it's a bit heavy handed to push the other volunteer topics
>> > off for a month, so feel free to shoot this down.
>> >
>> > Garrett
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> They are giving the talk the Monday Nov 16 (right?)
>> >> http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171
>> >>
>> >> So it would be best for them to give it to us first.  better for us to
>> >> have it after they have used the conference to practice at :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
>> >>> I'd vote to dedicate an entire meeting to this. I'm not suggesting it
>> >>> be Nov, but this is some pretty sweet stuff and since there's three
>> >>> contributors, it'd be in keeping with Chipy's tradition of multiple
>> >>> presentations.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:48 PM, William Scullin <wscullin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> James Snyder, Nick Romero, Massimo DiPierro and I have a tutorial
>> >>>> about 3.5 hours in length for Supercomputing 09 in Portland, Oregon
>> >>>> that we might be able to cut to fit available ChiPy meeting time.
>> We'd
>> >>>> welcome any option to rehearse and any feedback on slides.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Time:
>> >>>> "Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Content:
>> >>>> Introductory: 20% Intermediate: 60% Advanced: 20%
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Abstract:
>> >>>> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
>> >>>> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
>> >>>> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
>> >>>> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
>> >>>> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
>> >>>> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
>> >>>> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information.
>> The
>> >>>> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices
>> using
>> >>>> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
>> >>>> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
>> >>>> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
>> >>>> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
>> >>>> address all libraries and application domains, at the end
>> participants
>> >>>> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
>> >>>> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
>> >>>> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ( http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171 )
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Slides:
>> >>>>
>> http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWPA-6VEuhB3ZGd3Z3ducnhfMzJndnAyZ25kbg&hl=en
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - William
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best
>> meeting
>> >>>>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?
>>  got
>> >>>>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I
>> don't
>> >>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Carl K
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Chicago mailing list
>> >>>>> Chicago at python.org
>> >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Chicago mailing list
>> >>>> Chicago at python.org
>> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >>>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Chicago mailing list
>> >>> Chicago at python.org
>> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carl K
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Chicago mailing list
>> >> Chicago at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Chicago mailing list
>> > Chicago at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From bray at sent.com  Mon Nov  2 21:10:17 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:10:17 -0600
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:

>  Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?


YES :)

Brian Ray




From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 22:50:52 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:50:52 -0600
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>
>> ?Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?
>
>
> YES :)

Welp, that settles that problem.

"Py for Sci & HPC"  was next in line.   I motion we give them the whole meeting.

Py4Sci&HPC
PySH

pronounced "fish"

-- 


Carl K

From g at rre.tt  Mon Nov  2 23:12:43 2009
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:12:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>>
>>> ?Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?
>>
>>
>> YES :)
>
> Welp, that settles that problem.
>
> "Py for Sci & HPC" ?was next in line. ? I motion we give them the whole meeting.

+1

From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Tue Nov  3 00:10:20 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:10:20 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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+1000.

Looks like I'll be doing my PPA talk on Dec 10, and it could be that the
Linux group will be invited to, for some hot cross-pollination action.

I'm sure I can expect all ChiPy regulars to be kind and courteous to our
poverty-stricken guests.

-Tal

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?
> >>
> >>
> >> YES :)
> >
> > Welp, that settles that problem.
> >
> > "Py for Sci & HPC"  was next in line.   I motion we give them the whole
> meeting.
>
> +1
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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From cwebber at dustycloud.org  Tue Nov  3 00:36:45 2009
From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber)
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:36:45 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
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I'm also going to +1 this.

I'm greatly, greatly interested in this topic.  Plus, there are plenty
of challenges in packaging stuff with python nicely.

It's a talk I've been hoping someone would do for a while :)


Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Pete <pfein at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>>
>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>
>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system, which is
>>> actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python app into a
>>> Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not neat at all and in
>>> fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with poisonous, man-eating crocodiles.
>>> I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>
>> -1 This sounds more like a talk about Debian/Launchpad than Python,
>> something that's going to to be of limited interest to a large %age of our
>> audience.
>>
>> If it can be made to focus specifically on Python issues (ie, how do you go
>> from a distutils/setuptools install script to a .deb?), I'd be more
>> amenable.
>
> Heh, heh, another opportunity to disagree with Pete :)
>
> I'll +1 this -- it's got plenty of Python and Tal will make it interesting.
>
> Garrett
> _______________________________________________
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From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu  Tue Nov  3 00:43:06 2009
From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo Di Pierro)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:43:06 -0600
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	<ce2570e20911020745p49e14c7ehf00d0cb629d97949@mail.gmail.com>
	<877hu8qz1u.fsf@dustycloud.org>
Message-ID: <F03316C2-E3A2-40CC-BBFA-17040B1F60C1@cs.depaul.edu>

I am very much interested in learning how to make debian packages and  
how to use launchpad better.


On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:

> I'm also going to +1 this.
>
> I'm greatly, greatly interested in this topic.  Plus, there are plenty
> of challenges in packaging stuff with python nicely.
>
> It's a talk I've been hoping someone would do for a while :)
>
>
> Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Pete <pfein at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>
>>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,  
>>>> which is
>>>> actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python app  
>>>> into a
>>>> Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not neat at  
>>>> all and in
>>>> fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with poisonous, man-eating  
>>>> crocodiles.
>>>> I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>>
>>> -1 This sounds more like a talk about Debian/Launchpad than Python,
>>> something that's going to to be of limited interest to a large  
>>> %age of our
>>> audience.
>>>
>>> If it can be made to focus specifically on Python issues (ie, how  
>>> do you go
>>> from a distutils/setuptools install script to a .deb?), I'd be more
>>> amenable.
>>
>> Heh, heh, another opportunity to disagree with Pete :)
>>
>> I'll +1 this -- it's got plenty of Python and Tal will make it  
>> interesting.
>>
>> Garrett
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From pfein at pobox.com  Tue Nov  3 04:30:13 2009
From: pfein at pobox.com (Pete)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:30:13 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911021350h5358b8eco729eef11ef09577@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911020919i74e74875sb4dbd6fb793171be@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020932k3948904fy8e0ca838ce510563@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911020950k13b1b8j2f670614b7d3db1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<120d8d780911021157m5329caf3q8c0d851b7449bc42@mail.gmail.com>
	<120d8d780911021203g3120b205tf02f566193ed7dd4@mail.gmail.com>
	<58C69F64-9935-475E-BA26-7000847E2443@sent.com>
	<549053140911021350h5358b8eco729eef11ef09577@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8FF2619B-3A1F-4F46-8CED-1B91168EEBEF@pobox.com>

+1

On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>>
>>>  Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?
>>
>>
>> YES :)
>
> Welp, that settles that problem.
>
> "Py for Sci & HPC"  was next in line.   I motion we give them the  
> whole meeting.
>
> Py4Sci&HPC
> PySH
>
> pronounced "fish"
>
> -- 
>
>
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From robkapteyn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 14:03:22 2009
From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:03:22 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <8FF2619B-3A1F-4F46-8CED-1B91168EEBEF@pobox.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<acff52240911011848u3a54270dw7ad31d25cf2f8610@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020736l1f83c00bp5248a4cb894af1a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911020919i74e74875sb4dbd6fb793171be@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce2570e20911020932k3948904fy8e0ca838ce510563@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911020950k13b1b8j2f670614b7d3db1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<120d8d780911021157m5329caf3q8c0d851b7449bc42@mail.gmail.com>
	<120d8d780911021203g3120b205tf02f566193ed7dd4@mail.gmail.com>
	<58C69F64-9935-475E-BA26-7000847E2443@sent.com>
	<549053140911021350h5358b8eco729eef11ef09577@mail.gmail.com>
	<8FF2619B-3A1F-4F46-8CED-1B91168EEBEF@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <EAC5D567-9DD4-47A2-8983-25FA138600CB@gmail.com>

+1   I also like the python/supercomputer talks.

On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:30 PM, Pete wrote:

> +1
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the date for ChiPy absolutely set for the 12th?
>>>
>>>
>>> YES :)
>>
>> Welp, that settles that problem.
>>
>> "Py for Sci & HPC"  was next in line.   I motion we give them the  
>> whole meeting.
>>
>> Py4Sci&HPC
>> PySH
>>
>> pronounced "fish"
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Nov  6 17:38:47 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:38:47 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
Message-ID: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>

Mas,

Will you confirm

Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be confirmed)

And what is the address?

-- 
Carl K

From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu  Fri Nov  6 17:45:57 2009
From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo Di Pierro)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:45:57 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
In-Reply-To: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>

Hi Carl

Room 924
College of Computing and Digital Media
DePaul University
243 S Wabash Ave
Chicago



On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:

> Mas,
>
> Will you confirm
>
> Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be  
> confirmed)
>
> And what is the address?
>
> -- 
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 17:58:22 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:58:22 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
In-Reply-To: <E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>
References: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>
Message-ID: <549053140911060858neba4082k3c410a30a31f3531@mail.gmail.com>

yay.

Can I get into the room around 6?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
<mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> Hi Carl
>
> Room 924
> College of Computing and Digital Media
> DePaul University
> 243 S Wabash Ave
> Chicago
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>
>> Mas,
>>
>> Will you confirm
>>
>> Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be confirmed)
>>
>> And what is the address?
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Carl K

From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu  Fri Nov  6 18:11:03 2009
From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo Di Pierro)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:11:03 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
In-Reply-To: <549053140911060858neba4082k3c410a30a31f3531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>
	<549053140911060858neba4082k3c410a30a31f3531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8CB234F-8519-478C-9C31-35B53C6687BF@cs.depaul.edu>

The room is booked for 7. I do not know if there is a class before  
that. It is likely. We already have video equipment in there since it  
is used to teach digital cinema. It is also a green room. I will try  
find out more and get back to you.

Massimo

On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:

> yay.
>
> Can I get into the room around 6?
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
> <mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Carl
>>
>> Room 924
>> College of Computing and Digital Media
>> DePaul University
>> 243 S Wabash Ave
>> Chicago
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>
>>> Mas,
>>>
>>> Will you confirm
>>>
>>> Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be  
>>> confirmed)
>>>
>>> And what is the address?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl K
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 18:39:49 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:39:49 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
In-Reply-To: <D8CB234F-8519-478C-9C31-35B53C6687BF@cs.depaul.edu>
References: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>
	<549053140911060858neba4082k3c410a30a31f3531@mail.gmail.com>
	<D8CB234F-8519-478C-9C31-35B53C6687BF@cs.depaul.edu>
Message-ID: <549053140911060939p6d882e3arcccbad093e1e26ca@mail.gmail.com>

You don't have the good video equipment :)

also, any chance of me getting a wired internet connection?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
<mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> The room is booked for 7. I do not know if there is a class before that. It
> is likely. We already have video equipment in there since it is used to
> teach digital cinema. It is also a green room. I will try find out more and
> get back to you.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>
>> yay.
>>
>> Can I get into the room around 6?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
>> <mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Carl
>>>
>>> Room 924
>>> College of Computing and Digital Media
>>> DePaul University
>>> 243 S Wabash Ave
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mas,
>>>>
>>>> Will you confirm
>>>>
>>>> Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be confirmed)
>>>>
>>>> And what is the address?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carl K
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Carl K

From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu  Fri Nov  6 19:06:12 2009
From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo Di Pierro)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:12 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] topic locked in.. now for a venue
In-Reply-To: <549053140911060939p6d882e3arcccbad093e1e26ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911060838p8fef786w3b800eaaa344b728@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4B9A34C-09D2-45CA-A10D-CFBBB3055B4B@cs.depaul.edu>
	<549053140911060858neba4082k3c410a30a31f3531@mail.gmail.com>
	<D8CB234F-8519-478C-9C31-35B53C6687BF@cs.depaul.edu>
	<549053140911060939p6d882e3arcccbad093e1e26ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1614A72E-8797-4CEF-880C-CBC61BE945A5@cs.depaul.edu>


On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:

> You don't have the good video equipment :)

I sure don't. The school has a $30K camcorder but I would not know how  
to operate it. You are the man. Use yours.

> also, any chance of me getting a wired internet connection?

That should be no problem.

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
> <mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>> The room is booked for 7. I do not know if there is a class before  
>> that. It
>> is likely. We already have video equipment in there since it is  
>> used to
>> teach digital cinema. It is also a green room. I will try find out  
>> more and
>> get back to you.
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>
>>> yay.
>>>
>>> Can I get into the room around 6?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Massimo Di Pierro
>>> <mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carl
>>>>
>>>> Room 924
>>>> College of Computing and Digital Media
>>>> DePaul University
>>>> 243 S Wabash Ave
>>>> Chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mas,
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you confirm
>>>>>
>>>>> Thursday 7:00pm November 12th 2009 at DePaul Downtown (To be  
>>>>> confirmed)
>>>>>
>>>>> And what is the address?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carl K
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl K
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From carl at personnelware.com  Sun Nov  8 05:27:37 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:27:37 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] November meeting: Py 4 sci and supercomputing
Message-ID: <549053140911072027q34a70652ya26e55ac9bdb13de@mail.gmail.com>

Chicao Python Users Group
=========================

Come join us for our best meeting ever!

Topics
------
1. 7:00 Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing.


Details
-------

1. Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing.

William R. Scullin  (Argonne National Laboratory),
Massimo Di Pierro  (DePaul University),
Nichols A. Romero  (Argonne National Laboratory),
James B. Snyder  (Northwestern University)

Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
confidently proceed with future projects with Python.

http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171


Location
--------
DePaul University
College of Computing and Digital Media
Room 924
243 S Wabash Ave
Chicago, IL  60604

http://maps.google.com/places/us/chicago/s-wabash-ave/243/-college-of-computing-and-digital-media-depaul-university

http://www.cdm.depaul.edu


About the group
---------------
ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.

ChiPy website: <http://chipy.org>
ChiPy Mailing List: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago>
Python website: <http://python.org>

-- 
Carl K

From samir at esamir.com  Mon Nov  9 18:12:43 2009
From: samir at esamir.com (Samir Faci)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:12:43 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] November meeting: Py 4 sci and supercomputing
In-Reply-To: <549053140911072027q34a70652ya26e55ac9bdb13de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911072027q34a70652ya26e55ac9bdb13de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9db93b0e0911090912u105eac2bsbfa72f6fc991b8eb@mail.gmail.com>

So.. silly question.. but when is the actual date/time of the conference?



On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> Chicao Python Users Group
> =========================
>
> Come join us for our best meeting ever!
>
> Topics
> ------
> 1. 7:00 Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing.
>
>
> Details
> -------
>
> 1. Python for Scientific and High Performance Computing.
>
> William R. Scullin ?(Argonne National Laboratory),
> Massimo Di Pierro ?(DePaul University),
> Nichols A. Romero ?(Argonne National Laboratory),
> James B. Snyder ?(Northwestern University)
>
> Python, a high-level portable multi-paradigm interpreted programming
> language is becoming increasingly popular with the scientific and HPC
> communities due to ease of use, large collection of modules,
> adaptability, and strong support from vendors and community alike.
> This tutorial provides an introduction to Python focused on HPC and
> scientific computing. Throughout, we provide concrete examples,
> hands-on examples, and links to additional sources of information. The
> result will be a clear sense of possibilities and best practices using
> Python in HPC environments. We will cover several key concepts:
> language basics, NumPy and SciPy, parallel programming, performance
> issues, integrating C and Fortran, basic visualization, large
> production codes, and finding resources. While it is impossible to
> address all libraries and application domains, at the end participants
> should be able to write a simple application making use of parallel
> programming techniques, visualize the output, and know how to
> confidently proceed with future projects with Python.
>
> http://scyourway.supercomputing.org/conference/view/tut171
>
>
> Location
> --------
> DePaul University
> College of Computing and Digital Media
> Room 924
> 243 S Wabash Ave
> Chicago, IL ?60604
>
> http://maps.google.com/places/us/chicago/s-wabash-ave/243/-college-of-computing-and-digital-media-depaul-university
>
> http://www.cdm.depaul.edu
>
>
> About the group
> ---------------
> ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
> Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
> Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
> efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.
>
> ChiPy website: <http://chipy.org>
> ChiPy Mailing List: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago>
> Python website: <http://python.org>
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
--
Samir Faci
*insert title*
`fortune`

From szybalski at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 15:31:28 2009
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:31:28 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] multiprocess/multithread web app to rsyslog
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70911091727s2d1e0f1fy289efa22b3f04d4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70911091727s2d1e0f1fy289efa22b3f04d4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <804e5c70911120631i775e22a6id0486aba7056e61e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Would anybody know how to configure rsyslog so that I can send
messages to it from my python app?

I have a web application that is deployed in multi-thread and process
environment and I need to log information to a file (not db). One
solution is to create your own logging deamon (twisted) that listens
and saves your info or use the existing one like rsyslog in debian.

scenario: ( 3 processes and 10 threads each).

I want to log search query string from users to a file ?called
todaysdate.log ...20091109.log

Here is a sample python file...I have another one that uses
multiprocess to simulate mulithread writing to a file.


#-----test.py ----
from logging.handlers import SysLogHandler
import logging
# create logger
logger = logging.getLogger("myapp")
logger.setLevel(logging.DEBUG)
ch = SysLogHandler('/dev/log')
ch.setLevel(logging.DEBUG)
# create formatter
formatter = logging.Formatter("%(asctime)s - %(name)s - %(levelname)s
- %(message)s")
# add formatter to ch
ch.setFormatter(formatter)
logger.addHandler(ch)
logger.info('This is a message')


How can I setup rsyslog to filter "myapp" and save the messages to a
file in /home/lucas/myapp/20091109.txt


Have you used something else to log data into a file from
multi-process/thread program? (no DB do, just file)

Thanks,
Lucas

From chad at glendenin.com  Thu Nov 12 17:07:31 2009
From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:07:31 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] free second edition of Beazley's book
Message-ID: <191d03ff0911120807mce7ee6esc163944eb49d2313@mail.gmail.com>

Does anybody want a copy of the second edition of Dave Beazley's book,
Python Essential Reference? It's from 2001, covering Python 2.1, so
it's not up-to-date, but it still might be useful to somebody who's
getting started with Python.

I'll bring it to the ChiPy meeting tonight if anybody wants it.

ccg

From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 00:24:54 2009
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:24:54 -0800
Subject: [Chicago] Pycon Poster Session
Message-ID: <f604188c0911121524l60ee416h20a8b6910a135893@mail.gmail.com>

FYI...

Here's a link to something I just posted to Edu-sig, the Python in
Education group:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2009-November/009664.html
(about getting work exhibited thru Pycons)

This posting in turn links to something archived with Portland Python
User Group (PPUG).

Here's a blogged write up of our most recent PPUG meeting this
Tuesday, just for fun:

http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2009/11/ppug-20091110.html

My best to Chipy,

Kirby Urner
in Portland, Oregon
(PSF '09)

isepp.org (board member)
4dsolutions.net (company)

From d-beazley at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 13 13:39:11 2009
From: d-beazley at sbcglobal.net (David Beazley)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:39:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
Message-ID: <BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>

On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential  
Reference book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine  
signed copies of 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office.   If  
someone wants one, perhaps as some kind of historical record of when  
Python was simpler, send me an email and I'll bring a copy to the next  
Chipy meeting.

Cheers,
Dave


From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Nov 13 15:21:23 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:21:23 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] vids
Message-ID: <549053140911130621l229f6378j49310ba6b164447@mail.gmail.com>

I broke itin to 4 partt - first 2 are up:
http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/2844247/
http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/2844521/

-- 
Carl K

From choman at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 17:15:37 2009
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:15:37 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>

you wouldn't be willing to ship one to omaha?

If it helps to bribe, I will buy ya a beer sometime ;) maybe even at the
omaha python meeting


Chad, CISSP

Charles de Gaulle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html>
- "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs."

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential Reference
> book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed copies of
> 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office.   If someone wants one, perhaps
> as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send me an
> email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From jsudlow at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 20:25:22 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:25:22 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
	<d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb9a21ad0911131125i434e784cs47e75496e00d03ab@mail.gmail.com>

I know this is  way off topic, but do any of you know IBM system 370
assembler language?

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:

> you wouldn't be willing to ship one to omaha?
>
> If it helps to bribe, I will buy ya a beer sometime ;) maybe even at the
> omaha python meeting
>
>
> Chad, CISSP
>
> Charles de Gaulle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html> - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs."
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential Reference
>> book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed copies of
>> 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office.   If someone wants one, perhaps
>> as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send me an
>> email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From johnstoner2 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 20:33:48 2009
From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:33:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <eb9a21ad0911131125i434e784cs47e75496e00d03ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
	<d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb9a21ad0911131125i434e784cs47e75496e00d03ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74ee3f2b0911131133x567004afs348d664b4b1746f5@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know it currently, but I've seen it many years ago. Integrated into
the IBM PL/x family of languages.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this is  way off topic, but do any of you know IBM system 370
> assembler language?
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you wouldn't be willing to ship one to omaha?
>>
>> If it helps to bribe, I will buy ya a beer sometime ;) maybe even at the
>> omaha python meeting
>>
>>
>> Chad, CISSP
>>
>> Charles de Gaulle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html> - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs."
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential
>>> Reference book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed
>>> copies of 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office.   If someone wants one,
>>> perhaps as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send
>>> me an email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>


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From samir at esamir.com  Fri Nov 13 20:43:59 2009
From: samir at esamir.com (Samir Faci)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:43:59 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <74ee3f2b0911131133x567004afs348d664b4b1746f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
	<d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb9a21ad0911131125i434e784cs47e75496e00d03ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<74ee3f2b0911131133x567004afs348d664b4b1746f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9db93b0e0911131143l21ae32b4ta4c808e7593b3a69@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure I want to own up to it... but.. maybe?   What's your question on?



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM, John Stoner <johnstoner2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know it currently, but I've seen it many years ago. Integrated into
> the IBM PL/x family of languages.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know this is? way off topic, but do any of you know IBM system 370
>> assembler language?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> you wouldn't be willing to ship one to omaha?
>>>
>>> If it helps to bribe, I will buy ya a beer sometime ;) maybe even at the
>>> omaha python meeting
>>>
>>>
>>> Chad, CISSP
>>>
>>> Charles de Gaulle ?- "The better I get to know men, the more I find
>>> myself loving dogs."
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential
>>>> Reference book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed
>>>> copies of 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office. ? If someone wants one,
>>>> perhaps as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send
>>>> me an email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> --
> blogs:
> http://www.generosity.org/stoner/
> http://boogiepants.typepad.com/
> 'In knowledge is power; in ?wisdom, humility.'
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
--
Samir Faci
*insert title*
`fortune`

From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Nov 13 21:21:20 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:21:20 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] HPC meeting vids done
Message-ID: <549053140911131221t21ff0e8dx8cd457e9f57102f4@mail.gmail.com>

vids listed here: http://chipy.org/Past_Meetings

-- 
Carl K

From jsudlow at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 21:38:43 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:38:43 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <9db93b0e0911131143l21ae32b4ta4c808e7593b3a69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
	<d74b4e610911130815i3aab495ek54c97df236fcd06e@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb9a21ad0911131125i434e784cs47e75496e00d03ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<74ee3f2b0911131133x567004afs348d664b4b1746f5@mail.gmail.com>
	<9db93b0e0911131143l21ae32b4ta4c808e7593b3a69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb9a21ad0911131238u7c718caar8f4ff6192d34e21e@mail.gmail.com>

Dont worry, I'm not asking you to debug a 400 line program. I am working
with packed decimal numbers. The assignment calls for 2 decimal places to
the right of precision. For instance 10.23

When you Divide Pack decimal numberes like
NUM1  DC PL4'22'
NUM2  DC PL2'3'

DP NUM1,NUM2

... In NUM1 there is 7C00003C the remainder is even 3 bytes making plenty of
room for his other friends "the 3's" (22/7=1.3333)

The problem is, when I use the divide pack command, the remainder is always
only 1 byte. It only gives one byte of precision. Is there a precision
switch or flag I need to call to get two decimal places to the right? Do I
have to set something up earlier in the program to get the precision I need.
I've tried multiplying the operands by 10 and 100 to induce the the
fractional parts into the whole quotient of the answer, did not work, I"ve
tried increasing the remainder part the operation, did not work only padded
with zeros at the beginning.

Thanks for any help you could give, if you dont know thats OK too......Why
can't python turn high level statements directly into ibm system370
assembler code? Get on it would you guido ;)
-Jon

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Samir Faci <samir at esamir.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure I want to own up to it... but.. maybe?   What's your question
> on?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM, John Stoner <johnstoner2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't know it currently, but I've seen it many years ago. Integrated
> into
> > the IBM PL/x family of languages.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I know this is  way off topic, but do any of you know IBM system 370
> >> assembler language?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> you wouldn't be willing to ship one to omaha?
> >>>
> >>> If it helps to bribe, I will buy ya a beer sometime ;) maybe even at
> the
> >>> omaha python meeting
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chad, CISSP
> >>>
> >>> Charles de Gaulle  - "The better I get to know men, the more I find
> >>> myself loving dogs."
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <
> d-beazley at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential
> >>>> Reference book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine
> signed
> >>>> copies of 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office.   If someone
> wants one,
> >>>> perhaps as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler,
> send
> >>>> me an email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Chicago mailing list
> >>>> Chicago at python.org
> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Chicago mailing list
> >>> Chicago at python.org
> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago mailing list
> >> Chicago at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > blogs:
> > http://www.generosity.org/stoner/
> > http://boogiepants.typepad.com/
> > 'In knowledge is power; in  wisdom, humility.'
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Samir Faci
> *insert title*
> `fortune`
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From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 21:44:50 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:44:50 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <549053140911131244q68f5519cm28aff7a916600451@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential Reference
> book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed copies of
> 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office. ? If someone wants one, perhaps
> as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send me an
> email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.

I'll take one.  If you want to give me a few to ship down to PyCon
maybe Goodger, Holden, etc would want one.


-- 
Carl K

From verisimilidude at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 21:47:52 2009
From: verisimilidude at gmail.com (Phil Robare)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:47:52 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] vids
In-Reply-To: <549053140911130621l229f6378j49310ba6b164447@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911130621l229f6378j49310ba6b164447@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ad48f980911131247t6ab46a69n539ce83af5d2bf7@mail.gmail.com>

Amazing turn-around time.  Thanks Carl

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> I broke itin to 4 partt - first 2 are up:
> http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/2844247/
> http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/2844521/
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From verisimilidude at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 22:00:10 2009
From: verisimilidude at gmail.com (Phil Robare)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:00:10 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] IBM Assembler - was Re:  Free Essential Reference Books
Message-ID: <6ad48f980911131300w609a423fu2a2ce3475953527b@mail.gmail.com>

The place I was consulting at a year ago had an Intel based AS400
running an emulator for a PowerPC based AS400 running a mainframe
emulator (3830?) that was running a System 370 emulator.  This last
was running their core accounting system that was written in BAL (370
Assembler) in the 70s.  And I was told it ran faster today than it did
on any of the previous machines.

So which is it Jon, are you trying to maintain something like that or
are you doing a demo for the Computer Museum?

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> Thanks for any help you could give, if you dont know thats OK too......Why
> can't python turn high level statements directly into ibm system370
> assembler code? Get on it would you guido ;)
> -Jon
>

From jsudlow at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 22:09:42 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:09:42 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] IBM Assembler - was Re: Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <6ad48f980911131300w609a423fu2a2ce3475953527b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ad48f980911131300w609a423fu2a2ce3475953527b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb9a21ad0911131309g26fd4563x6cc11e63902dca20@mail.gmail.com>

HAHA, I'm not doing stuff for mueseams. Thats amazing how intricate all
those emulators were. I'm trying to pass this graduate school course.... Its
the first mandatory class you have to take and its a weed out course.
-Jon

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Phil Robare <verisimilidude at gmail.com>wrote:

> The place I was consulting at a year ago had an Intel based AS400
> running an emulator for a PowerPC based AS400 running a mainframe
> emulator (3830?) that was running a System 370 emulator.  This last
> was running their core accounting system that was written in BAL (370
> Assembler) in the 70s.  And I was told it ran faster today than it did
> on any of the previous machines.
>
> So which is it Jon, are you trying to maintain something like that or
> are you doing a demo for the Computer Museum?
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > Thanks for any help you could give, if you dont know thats OK
> too......Why
> > can't python turn high level statements directly into ibm system370
> > assembler code? Get on it would you guido ;)
> > -Jon
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From samir at esamir.com  Sat Nov 14 00:51:15 2009
From: samir at esamir.com (Samir Faci)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:51:15 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] IBM Assembler - was Re: Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <eb9a21ad0911131309g26fd4563x6cc11e63902dca20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ad48f980911131300w609a423fu2a2ce3475953527b@mail.gmail.com>
	<eb9a21ad0911131309g26fd4563x6cc11e63902dca20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9db93b0e0911131551h6f11aabaj7f0ae57523b79614@mail.gmail.com>

NIU by any chance?

hercules is the only mainframe emulator that I know of.. which
required you to have the obscure installation disc and be able to
install a mainframe OS.  If this was purely cobol, I would direct you
to opencobol... but for mainframe ASM.. I'm a bit rusty on.

I do have my old notes and ppt that were supposed to enlighten us as
to the ways of mainframes.. and big blue, which you're welcome to if
you'd like.  But I'm not motivated enough to decipher how my old code
worked/didn't work from 5+ years ago.

--
Samir

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA, I'm?not doing stuff for mueseams. Thats amazing how intricate all
> those emulators were.?I'm trying to pass this graduate school course.... Its
> the first mandatory class you have to take and its a weed out course.
> -Jon
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Phil Robare <verisimilidude at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The place I was consulting at a year ago had an Intel based AS400
>> running an emulator for a PowerPC based AS400 running a mainframe
>> emulator (3830?) that was running a System 370 emulator. ?This last
>> was running their core accounting system that was written in BAL (370
>> Assembler) in the 70s. ?And I was told it ran faster today than it did
>> on any of the previous machines.
>>
>> So which is it Jon, are you trying to maintain something like that or
>> are you doing a demo for the Computer Museum?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jon Sudlow <jsudlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > ...
>> > Thanks for any help you could give, if you dont know thats OK
>> > too......Why
>> > can't python turn high level statements directly into ibm system370
>> > assembler code? Get on it would you guido ;)
>> > -Jon
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
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>
>



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*insert title*
`fortune`

From verisimilidude at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 16:33:45 2009
From: verisimilidude at gmail.com (Phil Robare)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:33:45 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Free Essential Reference Books
In-Reply-To: <BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.24.1258110001.19791.chicago@python.org>
	<BEDCD731-9109-4D94-B3AE-A188A5DA10FA@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <6ad48f980911170733s5cb8c1a4p9db706490d51cb61@mail.gmail.com>

As a bibliophile with too many books already I'd love to have a copy
of version 1.  And when you bring it I'll get you to sign my copy of
Version 3.  I could give you a few Hollerith cards in return if you'd
like.

Thanks,
Phil

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, David Beazley <d-beazley at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On the subject of Chad's offer to give away his Python Essential Reference
> book, I'll just add that I probably have about 20 pristine signed copies of
> 1st and 2nd editions sitting in my office. ? If someone wants one, perhaps
> as some kind of historical record of when Python was simpler, send me an
> email and I'll bring a copy to the next Chipy meeting.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From knorby at uchicago.edu  Sat Nov 21 23:21:49 2009
From: knorby at uchicago.edu (Karl Norby)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:49 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] PS1 Hackathons
Message-ID: <a4254efb0911211421o63490b64r72182783dcc9d472@mail.gmail.com>

Pumping Station: One (http://pumpingstationone.org/) has been holding
monthly hackathons for the past few months, and we've been doing it
with so much success that we're going to have two of them!

The first all-night event this month is new. It will be held this
Saturday, the 21st. It's called Hackathon: Bring the Noise, and is
dedicated to loud projects, such as construction, woodworking, DJing,
and any other sort of

The second event is our regularly-scheduled Hackathon!, and it's
happening on Saturday the 28th. We'll be keeping the power tools off
so that people can concentrate on coding, and other mind-intensive
activities. So far, we've had a wide berth of projects, from Perl and
Python development to emacs modes to web design to driver development.

Everyone's welcome to come to both. They both start at 8pm, and will
go on as long as the Red Bull floweth.

Pumping Station: One is located at 3354 N. Elston, Chicago, IL. If the
door is locked, ring the bell.

Thanks,
-Karl Norby

From cwebber at dustycloud.org  Mon Nov 23 03:23:38 2009
From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:23:38 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] PS1 Hackathons
In-Reply-To: <a4254efb0911211421o63490b64r72182783dcc9d472@mail.gmail.com>
	(Karl Norby's message of "Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:49 -0600")
References: <a4254efb0911211421o63490b64r72182783dcc9d472@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87einqrnbp.fsf@dustycloud.org>

Hey Karl,

This seems interesting, and sounds like something I'd like to attend,
though this month I can't.  Will these events be happening every month?


Karl Norby <knorby at uchicago.edu> writes:

> Pumping Station: One (http://pumpingstationone.org/) has been holding
> monthly hackathons for the past few months, and we've been doing it
> with so much success that we're going to have two of them!
>
> The first all-night event this month is new. It will be held this
> Saturday, the 21st. It's called Hackathon: Bring the Noise, and is
> dedicated to loud projects, such as construction, woodworking, DJing,
> and any other sort of
>
> The second event is our regularly-scheduled Hackathon!, and it's
> happening on Saturday the 28th. We'll be keeping the power tools off
> so that people can concentrate on coding, and other mind-intensive
> activities. So far, we've had a wide berth of projects, from Perl and
> Python development to emacs modes to web design to driver development.
>
> Everyone's welcome to come to both. They both start at 8pm, and will
> go on as long as the Red Bull floweth.
>
> Pumping Station: One is located at 3354 N. Elston, Chicago, IL. If the
> door is locked, ring the bell.
>
> Thanks,
> -Karl Norby
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago

From cwebber at dustycloud.org  Mon Nov 23 03:27:48 2009
From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:27:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com> (Tal Liron's message of
	"Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:07:17 -0600")
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
Message-ID: <878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>

So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
already knows what they're doing."

So, consider presenting for next month? :)

Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com> writes:

> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>
> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>
> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
> ready quite yet.)
>
> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>>
>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>
>>    
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago

From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov 23 04:16:12 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:16:12 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
	<878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>
Message-ID: <4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>

Thanks! Carl wrote me to ask and I already said yes, so I guess it's 
set. IN STONE.

-Tal

On 11/22/2009 08:27 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
> So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
> thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
> already knows what they're doing."
>
> So, consider presenting for next month? :)
>
> Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>  writes:
>
>    
>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>
>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
>> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
>> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
>> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
>> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>
>> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
>> ready quite yet.)
>>
>> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>      
>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
>>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>
>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>      
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>    

From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 05:22:25 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:22:25 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com> <878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>
	<4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911222022i36624f8bp335fa757c567aece@mail.gmail.com>

yep.

we should set up a web site for this kinda stuff :)

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com> wrote:
> Thanks! Carl wrote me to ask and I already said yes, so I guess it's set. IN
> STONE.
>
> -Tal
>
> On 11/22/2009 08:27 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>>
>> So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
>> thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
>> already knows what they're doing."
>>
>> So, consider presenting for next month? :)
>>
>> Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com> ?writes:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>
>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
>>> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
>>> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
>>> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
>>> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>>
>>> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
>>> ready quite yet.)
>>>
>>> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>>>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>
>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Carl K

From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov 23 05:24:11 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:24:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911222022i36624f8bp335fa757c567aece@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
	<878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>	<4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>
	<549053140911222022i36624f8bp335fa757c567aece@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B0A0E6B.1030601@threecrickets.com>

There are lots of blog posts out there about this Python on Launchpad, 
but they honestly are all pretty useless.

I promise to take whatever comes out of my talk and turn it into a 
simple, informative, step-by-step web page. How's that?

-Tal

On 11/22/2009 10:22 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> yep.
>
> we should set up a web site for this kinda stuff :)
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Thanks! Carl wrote me to ask and I already said yes, so I guess it's set. IN
>> STONE.
>>
>> -Tal
>>
>> On 11/22/2009 08:27 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>>      
>>> So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
>>> thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
>>> already knows what they're doing."
>>>
>>> So, consider presenting for next month? :)
>>>
>>> Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>    writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>
>>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
>>>> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
>>>> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
>>>> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
>>>> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>>>
>>>> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
>>>> ready quite yet.)
>>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
>>>>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>      
>
>
>    

From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 05:27:48 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:27:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <4B0A0E6B.1030601@threecrickets.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com> <878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>
	<4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>
	<549053140911222022i36624f8bp335fa757c567aece@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B0A0E6B.1030601@threecrickets.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911222027h16506164jc618c63b6d87fc33@mail.gmail.com>

Thats cool too, but I was talking about some place where we could post
meeting information.  we could setup a wiki - someone should register
http://chipy.org

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com> wrote:
> There are lots of blog posts out there about this Python on Launchpad, but
> they honestly are all pretty useless.
>
> I promise to take whatever comes out of my talk and turn it into a simple,
> informative, step-by-step web page. How's that?
>
> -Tal
>
> On 11/22/2009 10:22 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>
>> yep.
>>
>> we should set up a web site for this kinda stuff :)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>
>> ?wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks! Carl wrote me to ask and I already said yes, so I guess it's set.
>>> IN
>>> STONE.
>>>
>>> -Tal
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2009 08:27 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
>>>> thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
>>>> already knows what they're doing."
>>>>
>>>> So, consider presenting for next month? :)
>>>>
>>>> Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com> ? ?writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
>>>>> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
>>>>> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
>>>>> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
>>>>> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>>>>
>>>>> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
>>>>> ready quite yet.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>>>> ever. ?Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on? ?got
>>>>>> something to share? ?got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
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From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Mon Nov 23 05:28:21 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:28:21 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] fishing for talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911222027h16506164jc618c63b6d87fc33@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911011801t401ae7aci9d343ece475c4ece@mail.gmail.com>	<4AEE3ED5.9030908@threecrickets.com>
	<878wdyrn4r.fsf@dustycloud.org>	<4B09FE7C.10300@threecrickets.com>	<549053140911222022i36624f8bp335fa757c567aece@mail.gmail.com>	<4B0A0E6B.1030601@threecrickets.com>
	<549053140911222027h16506164jc618c63b6d87fc33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B0A0F65.80402@threecrickets.com>

My sarcasm organ exploded.

On 11/22/2009 10:27 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> Thats cool too, but I was talking about some place where we could post
> meeting information.  we could setup a wiki - someone should register
> http://chipy.org
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>  wrote:
>    
>> There are lots of blog posts out there about this Python on Launchpad, but
>> they honestly are all pretty useless.
>>
>> I promise to take whatever comes out of my talk and turn it into a simple,
>> informative, step-by-step web page. How's that?
>>
>> -Tal
>>
>> On 11/22/2009 10:22 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>      
>>> yep.
>>>
>>> we should set up a web site for this kinda stuff :)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Thanks! Carl wrote me to ask and I already said yes, so I guess it's set.
>>>> IN
>>>> STONE.
>>>>
>>>> -Tal
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2009 08:27 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> So I'm actually learning about this now in my "spare time", and I keep
>>>>> thinking, "Man, I really hope this will be presented soon by someone who
>>>>> already knows what they're doing."
>>>>>
>>>>> So, consider presenting for next month? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tal Liron<tal.liron at threecrickets.com>      writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> * Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd give an introduction to the whole Debian distribution system,
>>>>>> which is actually pretty neat, and show you how to push your Python
>>>>>> app into a Personal Package Archive (PPA) on Launchpad, which is not
>>>>>> neat at all and in fact is an undocumented abyss teeming with
>>>>>> poisonous, man-eating crocodiles. I'll save you from the crocodiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I am planning a talk on Django and scalability later on, but am not
>>>>>> ready quite yet.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/01/2009 08:01 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> It's that time again: time to figure out how to make the best meeting
>>>>>>> ever.  Talks are always a good idea. What are people working on?  got
>>>>>>> something to share?  got a problem you would like discussed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask what ChiPy can do for you, or what you can do for ChiPy - I don't
>>>>>>> care as long as it results in someone talking about something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>      
>
>
>    

From knorby at uchicago.edu  Mon Nov 23 08:56:54 2009
From: knorby at uchicago.edu (Karl Norby)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:56:54 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] PS1 Hackathons
In-Reply-To: <87einqrnbp.fsf@dustycloud.org>
References: <a4254efb0911211421o63490b64r72182783dcc9d472@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87einqrnbp.fsf@dustycloud.org>
Message-ID: <a4254efb0911222356l6d3e5b06gff91ad972a434e59@mail.gmail.com>

Forgot to mention that... The hackathons are on the 3rd and 4th
Saturday of the month, always starting at 8. The one aimed at coders
is on the 4th Saturdays.

Thanks,
-Karl

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 20:23, Christopher Allan Webber
<cwebber at dustycloud.org> wrote:
> Hey Karl,
>
> This seems interesting, and sounds like something I'd like to attend,
> though this month I can't. ?Will these events be happening every month?
>
>
> Karl Norby <knorby at uchicago.edu> writes:
>
>> Pumping Station: One (http://pumpingstationone.org/) has been holding
>> monthly hackathons for the past few months, and we've been doing it
>> with so much success that we're going to have two of them!
>>
>> The first all-night event this month is new. It will be held this
>> Saturday, the 21st. It's called Hackathon: Bring the Noise, and is
>> dedicated to loud projects, such as construction, woodworking, DJing,
>> and any other sort of
>>
>> The second event is our regularly-scheduled Hackathon!, and it's
>> happening on Saturday the 28th. We'll be keeping the power tools off
>> so that people can concentrate on coding, and other mind-intensive
>> activities. So far, we've had a wide berth of projects, from Perl and
>> Python development to emacs modes to web design to driver development.
>>
>> Everyone's welcome to come to both. They both start at 8pm, and will
>> go on as long as the Red Bull floweth.
>>
>> Pumping Station: One is located at 3354 N. Elston, Chicago, IL. If the
>> door is locked, ring the bell.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Karl Norby
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From carl at personnelware.com  Tue Nov 24 08:36:21 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:36:21 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: [pyatl] Moving From Python 2 to Python 3 and
	Addison-Wesley contest
In-Reply-To: <1529430870.1258984601604.JavaMail.nobody@james0>
References: <1529430870.1258984601604.JavaMail.nobody@james0>
Message-ID: <549053140911232336q26f46e9es8760f4b4b4d4702c@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning, everyone!

As part of the promotion of Mark Summerfield's second edition of
"Programming in Python 3", Addison-Wesley is also releasing "Moving
>From Python 2 to Python 3", a PDF cheat-sheet for Python 2 programmers
wishing to start developing using Python 3. It lists names and idioms
that have changed between the versions, showing how to change your
code from Python 2-style to Python 3.1-style.

You can download the cheat-sheet, as well as enter a contest open
exclusively to user group members for the chance to win one of five
?Python prize packs?. ?If you're interested go to:

? ? ? ?http://www.informit.com/promotions/promotion.aspx?promo=137495

And make sure to fill in the user group field with PyATL^wChiPy!

Doug^wCarl

From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 19:50:11 2009
From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:50:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
Message-ID: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Pythonistas!  I probably mentioned this before but here it is
again.  I'm part of this really amazing volunteer group in Chicago
called CHIRP and we're starting an honest to god real community radio
station in Chicago.  Here's an earlier pic of our broadcast studio
before it was finished:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thursdayinjune/3945357881/in/pool-chirp
We are launching the Web only stream on January 15th at
http://chirpradio.org/ (woo!)  In the meantime you can find out more
about the station at http://www.chicagoindependentradioproject.org/
We should have an Low Power FM station within the next year or two
since the bill to allow urban LPFM is actually making some headway in
congress after 9 years of bouncing around.  It passed the House vote
this month.

Why am I telling you all this?  Because even though we have a ton of
people volunteering (nearly 65 *active* volunteers, 100+ total) there
are only two programmers, d'oh! myself and Jon Trowbridge from Google.
 We're pretty psyched about the software we are building.  There are a
couple apps and they run in Django on the Google App Engine.
Everything is open source and you can check out the code, run the
tests, run the dev server or whatever from here:
http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/  It's not really meant to be an
open source tool for *other* stations to use but with a little extra
effort and documentation it could be.

We could desperately use some help though because Jan 15th is rapidly
approaching.  It's a really fun group to be a part of and I think
Chicago isn't even prepared for how much COOLER it will be when this
radio station starts broadcasting 24 hours a day.

Are you interested in becoming part of the magic?  We're looking for
someone who might be psyched to hack on some Python / Django code with
us, most likely on the weekend or in the evenings while drinking beer
with us.

More specifically, we could really use someone who might be able to
take on ownership of the Traffic Log application, here:
http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/source/browse/#hg/traffic_log
This app is used to rotate the PSAs that DJs will need to read while on the air.

Here is a run down of the other apps we have been working on:

DJ Database -- this allows DJs to browse the digital mp3 library
(currently 2TB) that the station will use for daily operation.  The
Music Director also needs to manage heavy rotation and light rotation
and DJs need to mark tracks for profanity and write short reviews of
the good stuff to help other DJs.

Playlist Tracker -- this is what DJs use while on the air in the
studio to enter in what they play, complete with some Ajax goodnesss
to autocomplete against the digital library and keep data entry quick
and painless.

All of this still needs work!!

If you want to be a DJ on the station then helping out with the code
is a great way to get started on your volunteer hours.  Each DJ needs
to put in about 20 hours per quarter of volunteer time (something like
that).  I will warn you that people have been working really hard on
this for several years so it might take a while to get a DJ slot.  You
will need to go through an audition and may also need to undergo
training (but that's provided).

Kumar

From selizondo at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 20:37:57 2009
From: selizondo at gmail.com (selizondo)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:37:57 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
In-Reply-To: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5626be60911241137x4e746e59h4015f098433f7663@mail.gmail.com>

Kumar,

sounds like fun, when is the next code meetup?

Thanks,
Salomon



On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Kumar McMillan
<kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Pythonistas! ?I probably mentioned this before but here it is
> again. ?I'm part of this really amazing volunteer group in Chicago
> called CHIRP and we're starting an honest to god real community radio
> station in Chicago. ?Here's an earlier pic of our broadcast studio
> before it was finished:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/thursdayinjune/3945357881/in/pool-chirp
> We are launching the Web only stream on January 15th at
> http://chirpradio.org/ (woo!) ?In the meantime you can find out more
> about the station at http://www.chicagoindependentradioproject.org/
> We should have an Low Power FM station within the next year or two
> since the bill to allow urban LPFM is actually making some headway in
> congress after 9 years of bouncing around. ?It passed the House vote
> this month.
>
> Why am I telling you all this? ?Because even though we have a ton of
> people volunteering (nearly 65 *active* volunteers, 100+ total) there
> are only two programmers, d'oh! myself and Jon Trowbridge from Google.
> ?We're pretty psyched about the software we are building. ?There are a
> couple apps and they run in Django on the Google App Engine.
> Everything is open source and you can check out the code, run the
> tests, run the dev server or whatever from here:
> http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/ ?It's not really meant to be an
> open source tool for *other* stations to use but with a little extra
> effort and documentation it could be.
>
> We could desperately use some help though because Jan 15th is rapidly
> approaching. ?It's a really fun group to be a part of and I think
> Chicago isn't even prepared for how much COOLER it will be when this
> radio station starts broadcasting 24 hours a day.
>
> Are you interested in becoming part of the magic? ?We're looking for
> someone who might be psyched to hack on some Python / Django code with
> us, most likely on the weekend or in the evenings while drinking beer
> with us.
>
> More specifically, we could really use someone who might be able to
> take on ownership of the Traffic Log application, here:
> http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/source/browse/#hg/traffic_log
> This app is used to rotate the PSAs that DJs will need to read while on the air.
>
> Here is a run down of the other apps we have been working on:
>
> DJ Database -- this allows DJs to browse the digital mp3 library
> (currently 2TB) that the station will use for daily operation. ?The
> Music Director also needs to manage heavy rotation and light rotation
> and DJs need to mark tracks for profanity and write short reviews of
> the good stuff to help other DJs.
>
> Playlist Tracker -- this is what DJs use while on the air in the
> studio to enter in what they play, complete with some Ajax goodnesss
> to autocomplete against the digital library and keep data entry quick
> and painless.
>
> All of this still needs work!!
>
> If you want to be a DJ on the station then helping out with the code
> is a great way to get started on your volunteer hours. ?Each DJ needs
> to put in about 20 hours per quarter of volunteer time (something like
> that). ?I will warn you that people have been working really hard on
> this for several years so it might take a while to get a DJ slot. ?You
> will need to go through an audition and may also need to undergo
> training (but that's provided).
>
> Kumar
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 21:43:44 2009
From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:43:44 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
In-Reply-To: <5626be60911241137x4e746e59h4015f098433f7663@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626be60911241137x4e746e59h4015f098433f7663@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b571660a0911241243w759f6d29lf2edcc5a2840de4f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, selizondo <selizondo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kumar,
>
> sounds like fun, when is the next code meetup?
>
> Thanks,
> Salomon

Hey Salomon,
We're going to have an informal meetup for those of us on the tech
angle (6 or so people) Sunday December 6th.  Please come by if you are
remotely interested, just to listen in and hear a bit about what we're
focusing on next.  This is open to anyone else too, just let me know
off list and I'll send you the details when they are available.

>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Kumar McMillan
> <kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Pythonistas! ?I probably mentioned this before but here it is
>> again. ?I'm part of this really amazing volunteer group in Chicago
>> called CHIRP and we're starting an honest to god real community radio
>> station in Chicago. ?Here's an earlier pic of our broadcast studio
>> before it was finished:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/thursdayinjune/3945357881/in/pool-chirp
>> We are launching the Web only stream on January 15th at
>> http://chirpradio.org/ (woo!) ?In the meantime you can find out more
>> about the station at http://www.chicagoindependentradioproject.org/
>> We should have an Low Power FM station within the next year or two
>> since the bill to allow urban LPFM is actually making some headway in
>> congress after 9 years of bouncing around. ?It passed the House vote
>> this month.
>>
>> Why am I telling you all this? ?Because even though we have a ton of
>> people volunteering (nearly 65 *active* volunteers, 100+ total) there
>> are only two programmers, d'oh! myself and Jon Trowbridge from Google.
>> ?We're pretty psyched about the software we are building. ?There are a
>> couple apps and they run in Django on the Google App Engine.
>> Everything is open source and you can check out the code, run the
>> tests, run the dev server or whatever from here:
>> http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/ ?It's not really meant to be an
>> open source tool for *other* stations to use but with a little extra
>> effort and documentation it could be.
>>
>> We could desperately use some help though because Jan 15th is rapidly
>> approaching. ?It's a really fun group to be a part of and I think
>> Chicago isn't even prepared for how much COOLER it will be when this
>> radio station starts broadcasting 24 hours a day.
>>
>> Are you interested in becoming part of the magic? ?We're looking for
>> someone who might be psyched to hack on some Python / Django code with
>> us, most likely on the weekend or in the evenings while drinking beer
>> with us.
>>
>> More specifically, we could really use someone who might be able to
>> take on ownership of the Traffic Log application, here:
>> http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/source/browse/#hg/traffic_log
>> This app is used to rotate the PSAs that DJs will need to read while on the air.
>>
>> Here is a run down of the other apps we have been working on:
>>
>> DJ Database -- this allows DJs to browse the digital mp3 library
>> (currently 2TB) that the station will use for daily operation. ?The
>> Music Director also needs to manage heavy rotation and light rotation
>> and DJs need to mark tracks for profanity and write short reviews of
>> the good stuff to help other DJs.
>>
>> Playlist Tracker -- this is what DJs use while on the air in the
>> studio to enter in what they play, complete with some Ajax goodnesss
>> to autocomplete against the digital library and keep data entry quick
>> and painless.
>>
>> All of this still needs work!!
>>
>> If you want to be a DJ on the station then helping out with the code
>> is a great way to get started on your volunteer hours. ?Each DJ needs
>> to put in about 20 hours per quarter of volunteer time (something like
>> that). ?I will warn you that people have been working really hard on
>> this for several years so it might take a while to get a DJ slot. ?You
>> will need to go through an audition and may also need to undergo
>> training (but that's provided).
>>
>> Kumar
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 05:32:41 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:32:41 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
In-Reply-To: <b571660a0911241243w759f6d29lf2edcc5a2840de4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626be60911241137x4e746e59h4015f098433f7663@mail.gmail.com>
	<b571660a0911241243w759f6d29lf2edcc5a2840de4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911242032i51b164aeh3a38a4e41fdfa121@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kumar McMillan
<kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, selizondo <selizondo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kumar,
>>
>> sounds like fun, when is the next code meetup?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Salomon
>
> Hey Salomon,
> We're going to have an informal meetup for those of us on the tech
> angle (6 or so people) Sunday December 6th. ?Please come by if you are
> remotely interested, just to listen in and hear a bit about what we're
> focusing on next. ?This is open to anyone else too, just let me know
> off list and I'll send you the details when they are available.

Setup a group or something maybe tied to:
http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/

Or send me some old skool email - either way I am interested.

-- 
Carl K

From jsudlow at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 05:58:10 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:10 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
In-Reply-To: <549053140911242032i51b164aeh3a38a4e41fdfa121@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b571660a0911241050k72a9fd05s495cc498a7776387@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626be60911241137x4e746e59h4015f098433f7663@mail.gmail.com>
	<b571660a0911241243w759f6d29lf2edcc5a2840de4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<549053140911242032i51b164aeh3a38a4e41fdfa121@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb9a21ad0911242058o28f8b806tff75d9ad007d4030@mail.gmail.com>

If I were not in grad school I would say yes

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kumar McMillan
> <kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, selizondo <selizondo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Kumar,
> >>
> >> sounds like fun, when is the next code meetup?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Salomon
> >
> > Hey Salomon,
> > We're going to have an informal meetup for those of us on the tech
> > angle (6 or so people) Sunday December 6th.  Please come by if you are
> > remotely interested, just to listen in and hear a bit about what we're
> > focusing on next.  This is open to anyone else too, just let me know
> > off list and I'll send you the details when they are available.
>
> Setup a group or something maybe tied to:
> http://code.google.com/p/chirpradio/
>
> Or send me some old skool email - either way I am interested.
>
> --
> Carl K
>  _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Nov 25 08:31:16 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:31:16 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
Message-ID: <549053140911242331t421a0c98lb2dc406b3a450a8c@mail.gmail.com>

Next ChiPy is Thurs Dec 10.

We currently have:
Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu (Tal Liron)

Who else wants to talk?

-- 
Carl K

From danieltpeters at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:29:13 2009
From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:29:13 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
Message-ID: <9c8415cd0911250829y44c3d334p9c102a6742df60b6@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try to make the 6th of december meeting, this sounds _awesome_.
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From matt.dorn at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 23:17:12 2009
From: matt.dorn at gmail.com (Matt Dorn)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:17:12 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
Message-ID: <bb5a3b520911281417u3b0e412ega294e1ac0fbcc619@mail.gmail.com>

> Next ChiPy is Thurs Dec 10.
>
> We currently have:
> Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu (Tal Liron)
>
> Who else wants to talk?

I'd like to give a talk on creating REST-ful Web apps with Django
Piston, and how that makes it easy to give those apps a rich Ajax-y
interface with Ext JS.

Any interest?

Matt

From carl at personnelware.com  Sat Nov 28 23:25:01 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:25:01 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
In-Reply-To: <bb5a3b520911281417u3b0e412ega294e1ac0fbcc619@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb5a3b520911281417u3b0e412ega294e1ac0fbcc619@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911281425p25f20434je85f0fcc1c5fc7c3@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Matt Dorn <matt.dorn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Next ChiPy is Thurs Dec 10.
>>
>> We currently have:
>> Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu (Tal Liron)
>>
>> Who else wants to talk?
>
> I'd like to give a talk on creating REST-ful Web apps with Django
> Piston, and how that makes it easy to give those apps a rich Ajax-y
> interface with Ext JS.
>
> Any interest?

Yeah - I just did a ajxy Django login - it was a bit harder than I
expected, so yeah, I think that would be good.

-- 
Carl K

From rodguze at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 23:33:27 2009
From: rodguze at gmail.com (Rodrigo Guzman)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:33:27 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
In-Reply-To: <549053140911281425p25f20434je85f0fcc1c5fc7c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb5a3b520911281417u3b0e412ega294e1ac0fbcc619@mail.gmail.com> 
	<549053140911281425p25f20434je85f0fcc1c5fc7c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7d1acd10911281433w12e341dawf7a193d388050529@mail.gmail.com>

+1.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Matt Dorn <matt.dorn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Next ChiPy is Thurs Dec 10.
>>>
>>> We currently have:
>>> Packaging Python for Debian/Ubuntu (Tal Liron)
>>>
>>> Who else wants to talk?
>>
>> I'd like to give a talk on creating REST-ful Web apps with Django
>> Piston, and how that makes it easy to give those apps a rich Ajax-y
>> interface with Ext JS.
>>
>> Any interest?
>
> Yeah - I just did a ajxy Django login - it was a bit harder than I
> expected, so yeah, I think that would be good.
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From danieltpeters at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 12:03:26 2009
From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:03:26 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
Message-ID: <9c8415cd0911290303r7c449cf8t6d30a8be1b4e4734@mail.gmail.com>

+1
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From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 17:20:37 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:20:37 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talk: REST-ful Web apps with Django Piston
Message-ID: <549053140911290820u2ee481b3h411fc0a1200fab99@mail.gmail.com>

Matt Dorn -  REST-ful Web apps with Django Piston

and how that makes it easy to give those apps a rich Ajax-y
interface with Ext JS.

Can I get a slightly larger (2 or 3 lines) description?

30 min talk, 15 min Q&A enough?


On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
Carl K

From matt.dorn at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 19:38:41 2009
From: matt.dorn at gmail.com (Matt Dorn)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:38:41 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talk: REST-ful Web apps with Django Piston
In-Reply-To: <549053140911290820u2ee481b3h411fc0a1200fab99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549053140911290820u2ee481b3h411fc0a1200fab99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B12BFB1.8050103@gmail.com>

Carl Karsten wrote:
> Can I get a slightly larger (2 or 3 lines) description?
> 
> 30 min talk, 15 min Q&A enough?

I was originally going to try to give this talk at the upcoming PyCon -- 
I won't be doing it, since there was a very similar proposal that got 
chosen instead.  But below is part of the proposal I sent.  I can make 
it fit the 30 min time frame.

--

Summary:
A common complaint about Django, the leading Python web application 
framework, is that it doesn't make writing REST APIs easy enough.  In 
fact the paradigm for a typical Django application involves views which 
map to HTML page templates.  With end users increasingly expecting rich 
interfaces with the responsiveness of a desktop application, this 
paradigm is being superseded.   Fortunately a third-party Django 
application called Piston fills the gap.  Django/Piston can be combined 
with the Ext JS JavaScript framework and widget set to create 
attractive, responsive Web applications, and this talk will show you how.

Outline:
* REST overview
* Ajax overview
* Overview of REST options for Django
* Why Piston over other options
* Creating a REST interface to your Django models
* Writing an Ext JS application that consumes your Django app's RESTful API


From cfkarsten at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 19:57:59 2009
From: cfkarsten at gmail.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:57:59 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talk: REST-ful Web apps with Django Piston
In-Reply-To: <4B12BFB1.8050103@gmail.com>
References: <549053140911290820u2ee481b3h411fc0a1200fab99@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B12BFB1.8050103@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140911291057x790d4e20g53bcdd6c24fc98b8@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Matt Dorn <matt.dorn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Carl Karsten wrote:
>>
>> Can I get a slightly larger (2 or 3 lines) description?
>>
>> 30 min talk, 15 min Q&A enough?
>
> I was originally going to try to give this talk at the upcoming PyCon -- I
> won't be doing it, since there was a very similar proposal that got chosen
> instead. ?But below is part of the proposal I sent. ?I can make it fit the
> 30 min time frame.
>
> --
>
> Summary:
> A common complaint about Django, the leading Python web application
> framework, is that it doesn't make writing REST APIs easy enough. ?In fact
> the paradigm for a typical Django application involves views which map to
> HTML page templates. ?With end users increasingly expecting rich interfaces
> with the responsiveness of a desktop application, this paradigm is being
> superseded. ? Fortunately a third-party Django application called Piston
> fills the gap. ?Django/Piston can be combined with the Ext JS JavaScript
> framework and widget set to create attractive, responsive Web applications,
> and this talk will show you how.
>
> Outline:
> * REST overview
> * Ajax overview
> * Overview of REST options for Django
> * Why Piston over other options
> * Creating a REST interface to your Django models
> * Writing an Ext JS application that consumes your Django app's RESTful API

Very nice.  No need to shorten it.  plan on 45+15.

This will give us 2 great talks which I am sure will fill up the meeting.


-- 
Carl K

From mandric at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 21:38:48 2009
From: mandric at gmail.com (Milan Andric)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:38:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] OT: starting a radio station (hackers needed)
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Sorry, did I miss the meeting time and location?  All I picked up here was
Dec 6.

Danka,

Milan

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'll try to make the 6th of december meeting, this sounds _awesome_.
>
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From cweisert at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 13 22:19:01 2009
From: cweisert at sbcglobal.net (Conrad Weisert)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:19:01 -0000
Subject: [Chicago] IBM Assembler
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On Nov 13, 2009, at 13:00, Phil Robare wrote:

> This last was running their core accounting system that was written in 
> BAL (370
> Assembler) in the 70s.  And I was told it ran faster today than it did 
> on any of the previous machines.

Strictly speaking "BAL" denotes Basic Assembly Language, the subset of 
full 360/370 assembly language that didn't use macros or other 
"advanced" features.  To write a production application in BAL in the 
1970s would have been extremely unenlightened.

Conrad Weisert
cweisert at acm.org
http://www.idinews.com
(773)  736-9661


From swilson at callone.com  Fri Nov 20 22:56:10 2009
From: swilson at callone.com (Sue Wilson)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:10 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] Job Listing for Call one
Message-ID: <4B07107A.7000609@callone.com>

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Chicago, is looking for a developer with Python experience to design,
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From wscullin at alcf.anl.gov  Sat Nov 28 23:27:31 2009
From: wscullin at alcf.anl.gov (William Scullin)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:27:31 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Dec talks
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+1

On Nov 28, 2009 5:17 PM, "Matt Dorn" <matt.dorn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Next ChiPy is Thurs Dec 10. > > We currently have: > Packaging Python for
Debian/Ubuntu (Tal Liron...
I'd like to give a talk on creating REST-ful Web apps with Django
Piston, and how that makes it easy to give those apps a rich Ajax-y
interface with Ext JS.

Any interest?

Matt

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From jsudlow at gmail.com  Mon Nov 30 20:55:07 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:55:07 -0600
Subject: [Chicago] IBM Assembler
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i started this thread on assemblers I think because I asked a question. Just
wanted everyone to know it has been resolved. I'm working on my last
assignment, than I will be done with BAL!

Unrelated, but whoever was talking about Django Piston, GOOD JOB, Piston is
great. Ive been experimenting with it on the local dev server and you can
roll out pretty good web apps quick. I like it!
-jon

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Conrad Weisert <cweisert at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> On Nov 13, 2009, at 13:00, Phil Robare wrote:
>
> This last was running their core accounting system that was written in BAL
>> (370
>> Assembler) in the 70s.  And I was told it ran faster today than it did on
>> any of the previous machines.
>>
>
> Strictly speaking "BAL" denotes Basic Assembly Language, the subset of full
> 360/370 assembly language that didn't use macros or other "advanced"
> features.  To write a production application in BAL in the 1970s would have
> been extremely unenlightened.
>
> Conrad Weisert
> cweisert at acm.org
> http://www.idinews.com
> (773)  736-9661
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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