From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Wed Jul 1 05:16:08 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] IDEs
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I've had decent success with "Stani's Python Editor":
http://pythonide.stani.be/
Written, by the way, in wxWidgets. And so the circle is closed, and the
elder ones can rest again. I?! I?!
It has great features, but the GUI really is unlike anything you'll run
it in. I prefer Eclipse. Not only because I just love waiting 10 minutes
for my IDE to start, but also because of truly useful features like
PyDev, Subclipse (excellent Subversion integration) and Mylyn (good
integration with Trac, Bugzilla, etc.).
-Tal
From maney at two14.net Thu Jul 2 00:22:18 2009
From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:22:18 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] IDEs
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 01:45:04PM -0500, Garrett Smith wrote:
> I do a lot of work on headless servers (no GUI), so I'm pretty much
> limited to either Emacs or VIM, or develop on the desktop and move JAR
> files around the network (pain) in to use Eclipse (which, IMO, has
If you can run anything you want on the server, X will very happily use
your (local) GUI display with (remote) applications. Not so good over
the public internet, but very usable on a LAN for many things.
Alternately, I've sometimes used sshfs to mount an ad-hoc part of the
remote filesystem locally so that local GUI programs could directly
access the files. sshfs may only be available on Linux, still (it
needs fuse at your end and ssh/sftp access to the remote).
--
Slashdot: confirming Sturgeon's Law, 24x7
From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 20:25:06 2009
From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:25:06 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Google Technology User Group
Message-ID: <43e95380907061125y4795080ak240879aa0bfe9d92@mail.gmail.com>
A new group is starting up in chicago
This is *Google Technology User Group* meeting; *developers*, *students* and
*entrepreneurs* are welcome. This is the first such meeting in Chicago -- it
is loaded with interesting information, it is big, it is ambitious, don't
miss it.
Thanks to courtesy of *Google Inc.* we will meet at their facility at *20 W.
Kinzie, Chicago.*
We will have a lot of short 15 minute presentations to stimulate the ideas
and raise questions after which you will be able to talk to the speaker and
Google employee about what sparked your interests.
The theme of this meeting is:
*"Google tools to jump-start your next idea into a social networking
start-up"*
We hope you will walk out of this meeting super-charged to create the next
big thing, and that this group will become an incubator for a lot of new
ventures in Chicago land area.
Agenda:
5:15 PM - Uki D. Lucas (Chicago-GTUG.com ):
- Introduction
5:30 PM - Gregory Kick (Google.com)
- GData, Guice, Google collections
5:45 PM - Nathan Ingersoll (Google.com)
- project hosting on Google Code
6:00 PM - Jordan Beck (Revere Group)
- GWT and Google AppEngine
- Photo Carousel example Widget
6:15 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group)
- Facebook for Google Web Toolkit
6:30 PM - Trevor Skaife (Revere Group)
- Maven2 dependencies with Google Web Toolkit
6:45 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group)
- Google Friend Connect for Google Web Toolkit
7:00 PM - David Lo (Revere Group)
- Building mobile applications with Android
7:15 PM - Phil Wodarczyk (Revere Group)
- Building application with iPhone (cool bonus presentation)
7:30 PM - 8:00 PM
- Questions and Answers
We will start at 5 PM, but we want to allow 15 minutes for people to arrive
and mingle a bit.
The overhead projector, drinks (maybe beer) and snacks will be provided.
We still have openings for guest speakers (Social Networking, Google
Technology, success stories, etc.), please contact UkiDLucas at mac.com
Follow the news and create a buzz on Twitter by including
#Chicago-GTUGin your posts.
Register for FREE and invite your friends:
http://chicago-gtug-20090710.eventbrite.com/
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From tim.saylor at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 20:39:22 2009
From: tim.saylor at gmail.com (Tim Saylor)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:39:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] BarCamp is this weekend
Message-ID: <9fb45b0b0907061139p2b284b1eua6d0c46779b28ead@mail.gmail.com>
I sent an email last monday to the list about barcamp, but apparently it
never actually went through. Here it is again:
Hey All,
I just wanted to let everyone know that BARcamp Chicago 2009 will be
happening in about two weeks, July 11-12th. It will be taking place at
the UIC Innovation Center (1240 W. Harrison St, Chicago, IL 60607) the
same great venue we had last year. We will open the doors at 10am on
Saturday and keep them open until 10pm on Sunday. The event will begin
on Saturday July 11th at 11am.
What is BARcamp? BARcamp is an ad-hoc gathering born from the desire
for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense
event with discussions, demos, and interaction from participants. The
name BARcamp was inspired as a complement to FOOcamp, a private tech
gathering run by Tim OReilly.
It would be greatly appreciated for those planning on attendee if you
could sign up on the Attendee List on the BARcamp Chicago Website
(http://barcampchicago.com/AttendeeList). This will help us to have
enough food and beverages for all attendees.
As with every year, we have lots of cool talks lined up. The Chicago
Androids will complete their Android 101 series with talks on intents
and services, persistent storage, preferences, SQLite, location
service and maps integration. Then they will put these newly acquired
skills to good use during a code-sprint, concluding their journey
Sunday with a session were they will cover how to publish an App in
the Android Market. You can still catch up and follow the prior
sessions in the series @ http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/2213225/ &
http://blip.tv/file/2280779.
If you have a talk you would like to give on some technology you are
using or have developed or even just a topic near and dear to your
heart please sign up so people can know to expect your talk. You can
sign up here for Saturday
(http://app.barcampchicago.com/SaturdaysAgenda) and here for Sunday
(http://app.barcampchicago.com/SundaysAgenda).
And as the tech content slows down Saturday night, DJ GAZEBO! will
start spinning for the BarCamp Saturday Night Dance Party. Hang
around for the fun and enjoy some beer donated by the Chicago LUG and
Metropolitan Brewery.
You can also stay updated on the planning and events of BARcamp
Chicago by signing up for the BARcamp Chicago Planning List
(https://www.chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo/barcampchicago-planning).
You can also be a fan of BARcamp Chicago on Facebook
(http://www.facebook.com/pages/BARcamp-Chicago/90993363159) or follow
us on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/barcamp_chi).
If you have any questions in regards to BARcamp Chicago 2009 feel free
to contact Kevin Harriss (special.kevin at gmail.com).
CALL FOR HELP:
1) RSVP in some form or fashion,
(http://barcampchicago.com/AttendeeList). Need to size catering.
2) Get your company to participate, sponsor, bring schwag, give a talk
about technology you are using or building.
3) Give a talk. Saturday Signup Page
(http://app.barcampchicago.com/SaturdaysAgenda) Sundays Signup Page
(http://app.barcampchicago.com/SundaysAgenda)
4) Spread the word.
Hope to See You All There,
Tim Saylor
BARcamp Chicago Organizer
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From bray at sent.com Tue Jul 7 02:31:12 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:31:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Something will happen this month :)
Message-ID:
Keep Thursday night open :)
Brian Ray
From joshuacronemeyer at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 04:20:35 2009
From: joshuacronemeyer at gmail.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:20:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] IDEs
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Woah,
hold everything. eclim sounds awesome. i'm downloading it right now and
keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't the most buggy nightmarish
frankenstein of all time. If it works as advertised this could be very
cool.
thanks!
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Steven Githens wrote:
> Garrett Smith wrote:
>
>> ----- "Brian Ray" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Allan Spale wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> +1 for Eclipse (desktop editing)
>>>> +1 for Emacs (remote editing)
>>>>
>>>> I would be curious to know if there is a nice open source GUI builder
>>>> for Python (regardless of widget toolkit) that is not buggy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eclipse integration would be very nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am not sure if you looked it wxPython at all. But it also has some GUI
>>> builders that generate code or uses mozilla-ish xml to dynamically build
>>> gui. I used wxWidgets for some commercial products so it really is not buggy
>>> if you know what your doing; however, it was the C++ interface. Moving to
>>> the Python wx from there made life really easy.
>>> If I would have gone straight to wxPython I think I would have gotten
>>> extremely frustrated (as many do) because the API does not really read
>>> that easily. QT is also really nice.
>>>
>>> Concerning IDE's
>>>
>>> +1 Komodo
>>> +1 VIM
>>>
>>> I also tried Netbeans Python Beta recently which did a really good job
>>> at some stuff; although, I unsure about how well the debugger works. I
>>> just did not have enough time to play around with it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I do a lot of work on headless servers (no GUI), so I'm pretty much
>> limited to either Emacs or VIM, or develop on the desktop and move JAR
>> files around the network (pain) in to use Eclipse (which, IMO, has
>> become an outstanding IDE over the years).
>>
>> I've been using VIM, but Emacs is the clear editor of choice for Erlang
>> development, which I'm doing more of. And since Emacs has pretty deep
>> support for everything else, I'm gonna make the switch.
>>
>> We'll see how the Java stuff goes. As far as Python, the basic
>> python-mode is already an improvement over what I was using in VIM.
>>
>>
>
> You might want to check out eclim too. It connects/integrates Vim to a
> headless Eclipse ( or headed, or embedded editor )
> and get the same sort of Java autocomplete and refactoring stuff via
> regular Vim stuff (like ctrl-n ).
>
> I think it's pretty flexible, so it might be able to harness PyDev and
> other Eclipse plugins as well.
>
> http://eclim.sourceforge.net/
>
> -Steve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
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From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jul 7 06:13:50 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:13:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: July 9 ChiPy Meeting
Message-ID: <549053140907062113t34caa174v23dfc81710f42483@mail.gmail.com>
Chicago Python User Group
=========================
Put on your hawaiian shirt and attend the best meeting of July 2009.
Topics:
* Garrett Smith: asynchronous vs threaded programming in Python
* David Beazley: mind-blowing presentation about how the Python GIL
actually works and why it's even worse than most people even imagine.
7:00pm Thursday July 9, 2009
Sully's House Tap Room and Grill
1501 N Dayton Street
Chicago, IL 60642
(773) 244-1234
http://www.sullyshouse.com
Added bonus in this month's announcement: spam!
This weekend: http://barcampchicago.com
July 11-12 2009 (whole weekend, 24 hours a day)!
1240 W. Harrison St, Chicago, IL 60607
Same great venue as last year!
About ChiPy
-----------
ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.
ChiPy website:
ChiPy Mailing List:
ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List:
Python website:
--
Carl K
From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jul 7 06:16:20 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:16:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: July 9 ChiPy Meeting (now with new topics!)
Message-ID: <549053140907062116o15ce002cyac9bd6cf349f0783@mail.gmail.com>
Chicago Python User Group
=========================
Put on your hawaiian shirt and attend the best meeting of July 2009.
Topics:
* James Snyder: PyMite http://www.pythononachip.org "a
significant subset of the Python language on microcontrollers without
an OS." PyMite ligntning talk at PyCon09
http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/1996853/ "lets Python run in a BILLION new
places." And a special guest via the intertubes: Dean Hall, the lead
PyMite developer: "July 9th is open for me and I'd be interested in
virtual-attending and helping out with Q&A." Exactly how that happens
is to be determined. Probably the FireFox3.5 Video tag.
* Chris Webber: Vidscraper - Library for getting metadata
about video urls. Clean-ish solution for a messy problem. Given html
containing media, returns a dictionary of {"title": "That guy on cam",
"description": "lol that guy", "file_url": "http://foo.bar/foo.mp4"} -
slightly related to:
http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2008/10/announcing-miro-local-tv/
* Daniel Griffin: couchdb http://couchdb.apache.org
7:00pm Thursday July 9, 2009
Sully's House Tap Room and Grill
1501 N Dayton Street
Chicago, IL 60642
(773) 244-1234
http://www.sullyshouse.com
Added bonus in this month's announcement: spam!
This weekend: ?http://barcampchicago.com
July 11-12 2009 (whole weekend, 24 hours a day)!
1240 W. Harrison St, Chicago, IL 60607
Same great venue as last year!
About ChiPy
-----------
ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.
ChiPy website:
ChiPy Mailing List:
ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List:
Python website:
--
Carl K
--
Carl K
From jsudlow at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 10:19:20 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 03:19:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] IDEs
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I"ve used ERIC IDE for a lot of my python projects. Its lightweight and does
what I want it to do. I'm not picky, but I dont like eclipse because its so
overblown for the simple python scripts or django files I need to write.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
wrote:
> Woah,
>
> hold everything. eclim sounds awesome. i'm downloading it right now and
> keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't the most buggy nightmarish
> frankenstein of all time. If it works as advertised this could be very
> cool.
>
> thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Steven Githens wrote:
>
>> Garrett Smith wrote:
>>
>>> ----- "Brian Ray" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Allan Spale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for Eclipse (desktop editing)
>>>>> +1 for Emacs (remote editing)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be curious to know if there is a nice open source GUI builder
>>>>> for Python (regardless of widget toolkit) that is not buggy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Eclipse integration would be very nice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if you looked it wxPython at all. But it also has some GUI
>>>> builders that generate code or uses mozilla-ish xml to dynamically build
>>>> gui. I used wxWidgets for some commercial products so it really is not buggy
>>>> if you know what your doing; however, it was the C++ interface. Moving to
>>>> the Python wx from there made life really easy.
>>>> If I would have gone straight to wxPython I think I would have gotten
>>>> extremely frustrated (as many do) because the API does not really read
>>>> that easily. QT is also really nice.
>>>>
>>>> Concerning IDE's
>>>>
>>>> +1 Komodo
>>>> +1 VIM
>>>>
>>>> I also tried Netbeans Python Beta recently which did a really good job
>>>> at some stuff; although, I unsure about how well the debugger works. I
>>>> just did not have enough time to play around with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do a lot of work on headless servers (no GUI), so I'm pretty much
>>> limited to either Emacs or VIM, or develop on the desktop and move JAR
>>> files around the network (pain) in to use Eclipse (which, IMO, has
>>> become an outstanding IDE over the years).
>>>
>>> I've been using VIM, but Emacs is the clear editor of choice for Erlang
>>> development, which I'm doing more of. And since Emacs has pretty deep
>>> support for everything else, I'm gonna make the switch.
>>>
>>> We'll see how the Java stuff goes. As far as Python, the basic
>>> python-mode is already an improvement over what I was using in VIM.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You might want to check out eclim too. It connects/integrates Vim to a
>> headless Eclipse ( or headed, or embedded editor )
>> and get the same sort of Java autocomplete and refactoring stuff via
>> regular Vim stuff (like ctrl-n ).
>>
>> I think it's pretty flexible, so it might be able to harness PyDev and
>> other Eclipse plugins as well.
>>
>> http://eclim.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From herbieman2000 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:13:53 2009
From: herbieman2000 at gmail.com (Frank Duncan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:13:53 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] IDEs
In-Reply-To:
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<4A4A6141.8060709@mtu.edu>
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Eclim is the best thing since sliced bread. Have been using it at my
dayjob for some 3 years now. I still use eclipse for remote debugging/
stepping though.
Frank
On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:19 AM, Jon Sudlow wrote:
> I"ve used ERIC IDE for a lot of my python projects. Its lightweight
> and does what I want it to do. I'm not picky, but I dont like
> eclipse because its so overblown for the simple python scripts or
> django files I need to write.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Josh Cronemeyer > wrote:
> Woah,
>
> hold everything. eclim sounds awesome. i'm downloading it right
> now and keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't the most buggy
> nightmarish frankenstein of all time. If it works as advertised
> this could be very cool.
>
> thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Steven Githens
> wrote:
> Garrett Smith wrote:
> ----- "Brian Ray" wrote:
>
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Allan Spale wrote:
>
>
> +1 for Eclipse (desktop editing)
> +1 for Emacs (remote editing)
>
> I would be curious to know if there is a nice open source GUI
> builder for Python (regardless of widget toolkit) that is not buggy.
>
>
> Eclipse integration would be very nice.
>
> I am not sure if you looked it wxPython at all. But it also has some
> GUI builders that generate code or uses mozilla-ish xml to
> dynamically build gui. I used wxWidgets for some commercial
> products so it really is not buggy if you know what your doing;
> however, it was the C++ interface. Moving to the Python wx from
> there made life really easy.
> If I would have gone straight to wxPython I think I would have
> gotten extremely frustrated (as many do) because the API does not
> really read
> that easily. QT is also really nice.
>
> Concerning IDE's
>
> +1 Komodo
> +1 VIM
>
> I also tried Netbeans Python Beta recently which did a really good job
> at some stuff; although, I unsure about how well the debugger
> works. I just did not have enough time to play around with it.
>
>
> I do a lot of work on headless servers (no GUI), so I'm pretty much
> limited to either Emacs or VIM, or develop on the desktop and move JAR
> files around the network (pain) in to use Eclipse (which, IMO, has
> become an outstanding IDE over the years).
>
> I've been using VIM, but Emacs is the clear editor of choice for
> Erlang
> development, which I'm doing more of. And since Emacs has pretty deep
> support for everything else, I'm gonna make the switch.
>
> We'll see how the Java stuff goes. As far as Python, the basic
> python-mode is already an improvement over what I was using in VIM.
>
>
> You might want to check out eclim too. It connects/integrates Vim
> to a headless Eclipse ( or headed, or embedded editor )
> and get the same sort of Java autocomplete and refactoring stuff via
> regular Vim stuff (like ctrl-n ).
>
> I think it's pretty flexible, so it might be able to harness PyDev
> and other Eclipse plugins as well.
>
> http://eclim.sourceforge.net/
>
> -Steve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From bray at sent.com Tue Jul 7 18:23:10 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:23:10 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: ChiPy-announce post from
trishtan.mosley@acquitygroup.com requires approval
References:
Message-ID: <33827AAB-3B7F-42FB-8210-3F9771A6B7CC@sent.com>
Passing this along:
> ? Acquity Group, a Digital Consulting Firm headquartered here in
> Chicago is looking for a Python Developer who also has strong Front-
> End development capabilities and in interest in expanding their
> skill-set to include mobile development. To be considered for the
> position, please contact Trishtan Mosley. Trishtan.mosley at acquitygroup.com
> .
>
> Best,
>
>
> Trishtan Mosley
>
> Sr. Corporate Recruiter
>
> Acquity Group | BRANDS AND BUSINESSES. ELEVATED.
>
> V 312.427.2097 | M 815.353.6432 | F 312.427.2471
>
> 500 West Madison Street, Suite 2200, Chicago, IL 60661 | www.acquitygroup.com
>
>
> This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use
> of the person to whom it has been sent, and may contain information
> that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the
> intended recipient or have received this message in error, you are
> not authorized to copy, distribute, or otherwise use this message or
> its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-
> mail and permanently delete this message and any attachments.
> Acquity Group makes no warranty that this e-mail is error or virus
> free.
>
>
>
>
From trishtan.mosley at acquitygroup.com Tue Jul 7 17:43:34 2009
From: trishtan.mosley at acquitygroup.com (Mosley, Trishtan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:43:34 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] FT Python and Front-End Development Opportunity Available
Message-ID: <039630A7D31BDD40A7BD746D108B55950185824A@srv-ag8.acquitygroup.com>
Hello,
Will you please pass along the information below?
- Acquity Group, a Digital Consulting Firm headquartered here in
Chicago is looking for a Python Developer who also has strong Front-End
development capabilities and in interest in expanding their skill-set to
include mobile development. To be considered for the position, please
contact Trishtan Mosley. Trishtan.mosley at acquitygroup.com.
Best,
Trishtan Mosley
Sr. Corporate Recruiter
Acquity Group | BRANDS AND BUSINESSES. ELEVATED.
V 312.427.2097 | M 815.353.6432 | F 312.427.2471
500 West Madison Street, Suite 2200, Chicago, IL 60661 |
www.acquitygroup.com
This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of
the person to whom it has been sent, and may contain information that is
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From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jul 8 16:41:55 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: July 9 ChiPy Meeting (now with more topics!)
Message-ID: <549053140907080741u69787a9q743edde76ee66d38@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> Chicago Python User Group
> =========================
>
> Put on your hawaiian shirt and attend the best meeting of July 2009.
>
> Topics:
>
> ? ? ? ?* James Snyder: PyMite http://www.pythononachip.org "a
> significant subset of the Python language on microcontrollers without
> an OS." PyMite ligntning talk at PyCon09
> http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/1996853/ "lets Python run in a BILLION new
> places." And a special guest via the intertubes: Dean Hall, the lead
> PyMite developer: "July 9th is open for me and I'd be interested in
> virtual-attending and helping out with Q&A." Exactly how that happens
> is to be determined. Probably the FireFox3.5 Video tag.
>
> ? ? ? ?* Chris Webber: Vidscraper - Library for getting metadata
> about video urls. Clean-ish solution for a messy problem. Given html
> containing media, returns a dictionary of {"title": "That guy on cam",
> "description": "lol that guy", "file_url": "http://foo.bar/foo.mp4"} -
> slightly related to:
> http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2008/10/announcing-miro-local-tv/
>
> ? ? ? ?* Daniel Griffin: couchdb http://couchdb.apache.org
* Rohit Sankaran: Rendezvous - for scheduling meetings and other
events. It's not the same codebase as Meetshop but it strives for
similar functionality.
>
> 7:00pm Thursday July 9, 2009
>
> Sully's House Tap Room and Grill
> 1501 N Dayton Street
> Chicago, IL 60642
> (773) 244-1234
> http://www.sullyshouse.com
>
> Added bonus in this month's announcement: spam!
> This weekend: ?http://barcampchicago.com
> July 11-12 2009 (whole weekend, 24 hours a day)!
> 1240 W. Harrison St, Chicago, IL 60607
> Same great venue as last year!
>
>
> About ChiPy
> -----------
> ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
> Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
> Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
> efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.
>
> ChiPy website:
> ChiPy Mailing List:
> ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List:
>
> Python website:
>
> --
> Carl K
>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
>
--
Carl K
From bray at sent.com Wed Jul 8 16:42:34 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:42:34 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: [Chicago Python User Group] Update of "FrontPage" by
CarlKarsten
References: <20090708143309.28735.37992@chipy.org>
Message-ID: <36C8D286-AB96-4513-AFE8-5B7DD418F858@sent.com>
Begin forwarded message:
> From: noreply at chipy.org
> Date: July 8, 2009 9:33:09 AM CDT
> To: noreply at chipy.org
> Subject: [Chicago Python User Group] Update of "FrontPage" by
> CarlKarsten
>
> Dear Wiki user,
>
> You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Chicago
> Python User Group" for change notification.
>
> The following page has been changed by CarlKarsten:
> http://chipy.org/FrontPage
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> * Daniel Griffin: couchdb http://couchdb.apache.org
>
> - * Rohit Sankaran: Meetshop NG - It's for scheduling meetings and
> other events. It's not the same codebase as Meetshop but it strives
> for similar functionality.
> + * Rohit Sankaran: Rendezvous - for scheduling meetings and other
> events. It's not the same codebase as Meetshop but it strives for
> similar functionality.
Anybody recall Meetshop. See our efforts always go rewarded... there
just is some lag, like 3 years of lag :)
Brian Ray
From maney at two14.net Wed Jul 8 17:49:49 2009
From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:49:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: [Chicago Python User Group] Update
of "FrontPage" by CarlKarsten
In-Reply-To: <36C8D286-AB96-4513-AFE8-5B7DD418F858@sent.com>
References: <20090708143309.28735.37992@chipy.org>
<36C8D286-AB96-4513-AFE8-5B7DD418F858@sent.com>
Message-ID: <20090708154949.GB25784@furrr.two14.net>
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:42:34AM -0500, Brian Ray wrote:
> Anybody recall Meetshop. See our efforts always go rewarded... there
> just is some lag, like 3 years of lag :)
Oh. Yeah, I remember, but I always figured that with a silly name like
that it would take three-four years for someone to repurpose it under a
more marketable title. Extrapolating from that, Plan9's remix should
be underway by, oh, 2050 or so. :-)
--
To read a book, to think it over, and to write out notes
is a useful exercise; a book which will not repay some hard thought
is not worth publishing. -- Maria Mitchell
From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jul 8 18:26:41 2009
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:26:41 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] skipping thursday
Message-ID:
Hi Guys,
Despite it being the best ever, I'm skipping this week's meeting to go
see the theatre implementation of Little Brother.
http://craphound.com/?p=2277
Since I am not a social person, I probably will skip the pre-show meet
Cory wine bacchanalia, but want to share in case any of you are more
social.
so, does anyone know what his europycon keynote was about?
--
sheila
From dsellis at praxismi.com Wed Jul 8 17:46:53 2009
From: dsellis at praxismi.com (Dean Sellis)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Sub-Contracting Opportunity
Message-ID: <3BE40764-71A6-4A49-88BF-848BFC91E148@praxismi.com>
Hello,
Praxis Management International is looking for a Python developer in
the Chicago area with Django experience to work on custom projects for
our clients. Our clients are in the pharmaceutical industry and we
develop small applications for forecasting, tracking and reporting on
various pharma business operations. This is a sub-contracting
opportunity. If you are interested you can contact me any time. Dean
Sellis .
Thanks,
Dean
---
Dean Sellis
Praxis Management International, LLC
100 N Field Dr, Lake Forest, IL 60045
P: 1-847-295-7160
From ross at crowdspring.com Wed Jul 8 19:18:22 2009
From: ross at crowdspring.com (Ross Kimbarovsky)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:18:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING is looking for a Designer/Front-End Developer
Message-ID:
crowdSPRING is hiring! We're looking for an awesome web designer/front-end
developer (big plus if they have python/django experience). Know anyone?
http://jobs.37signals.com/jobs/5311
Ross
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From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:09:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] CouchDB Info
Message-ID: <3db160680907092009q3f29ac73qb9196b99b6c70b75@mail.gmail.com>
Based on some feedback I think I missed really covering some things. I
attached my code snippets and if your on a mac you can get CouchDBX and try
it yourself. The Map/Reduce functions are essentially the key to the whole
thing.
My Presentation: http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dd6zv5sx_9g34qqgd7
My source files are attached - you need python 2.6 and this
http://code.google.com/p/couchdb-python/
I will also happily answer any questions people have. If you ever uses
databases of any kind read this: http://books.couchdb.org/relax/why-couchdb
Thanks,
Dan
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From special.kevin at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 07:53:34 2009
From: special.kevin at gmail.com (Kevin Harriss)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:53:34 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Don't Forget BARcamp Chicago 2009 Is This Weekend
Message-ID: <97b3d1fd0907092253o1973fe15wb578ce646dea66bc@mail.gmail.com>
Hey all,
I want to remind everyone that BARcamp Chicago 2009 is coming up this
weekend. Please tell your friends, family, neighbors and even enemies
to attend. This year we will be holding it at the UIC Innovation
Center (1240 W. Harrison). This is the same great venue we had last
year for BARcamp Chicago. The doors will open at 10am on Saturday and
an Welcome/Introduction to BARcamp will happen at 11am. The first
talks will start at 12:00pm on Saturday.
As with every year, there are a lot of great talks already listed to
be given. These talks cover such various topics as Digital Astronomy,
Creating and Keeping a Startup in Chicago, Getting Funding for a
Startup, Nitrogen an Erlang based web framework, Miro the Online Video
Family and Chemistry with Ferrofluids. Along with the talks there will
be an Android 101 series and an Android code sprint taking place
during BARcamp. Make sure to stick around Saturday night for the the
BARcamp Chicago Dance Party with DJ GAZEBO!. Once all the talks finish
up we will turn the main talk room into an all night dance party.
If you have any questions feel free to contact Kevin Harriss
(special.kevin at gmail.com). I look forward to seeing you all at BARcamp
Chicago 2009. You can stay updated with the ongoings of BARcamp
Chicago 2009 by following us on twitter at
http://www.twitter.com/barcamp_chi. You can also find out more
information by visiting our website at http://www.barcampchicago.com.
Kevin Harriss
From carl at personnelware.com Sat Jul 11 13:07:05 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:07:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] July 9 ChiPy Videos
Message-ID: <549053140907110407t129650d0rde45390993f5cf7b@mail.gmail.com>
PyMite http://blip.tv/file/2345450
Vidscraper http://blip.tv/file/2345426
CouchDB http://blip.tv/file/2345425
--
Carl K
From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jul 14 17:48:28 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:48:28 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python 101 day
Message-ID: <549053140907140848l921a5eer6c0b8da86b83188c@mail.gmail.com>
At barcamp I promised to give a 2 hour overview of Python syntax
sometime in August.
Like I put on the wiki:
* As much Python as you can learn in 2 hours by CarlKarsten.
* Either August 15 (Saturday) or 16 Sunday. 3-5,
* We can do 12:30-5 if we get $300food/drink+60tip commitment. so 10
people spending $30 on lunch, drinks and dinner.
* Preparation: Join the list, get Python running on your laptop. Join
the ChiPy `mailing list`_.
There were at least 5 people that were interested, so I want at least
that many people showing up. I don't care if it s the 5 from barcamp,
just so I am not doing a formal lesson in front of 2 people. I should
have collected names, there, but welcome to barcamp. If anyone knows
some of the people who raised their hand, make sure they get in touch
with me - email, #chipy, reply to this tread, maybe I can get
Rendezvous involved.
--
Carl K
From reddeadresolve at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 19:46:42 2009
From: reddeadresolve at gmail.com (redDEAD)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Carl you can put me on the list for the python crash course. I'm down for
any of the days mentioned.
Matthew A.
redDEADresolve at gmail.com
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>
> At barcamp I promised to give a 2 hour overview of Python syntax
> sometime in August.
>
> Like I put on the wiki:
>
> * As much Python as you can learn in 2 hours by CarlKarsten.
> * Either August 15 (Saturday) or 16 Sunday. 3-5,
> * We can do 12:30-5 if we get $300food/drink+60tip commitment. so 10
> people spending $30 on lunch, drinks and dinner.
> * Preparation: Join the list, get Python running on your laptop. Join
> the ChiPy `mailing list`_.
>
> There were at least 5 people that were interested, so I want at least
> that many people showing up. I don't care if it s the 5 from barcamp,
> just so I am not doing a formal lesson in front of 2 people. I should
> have collected names, there, but welcome to barcamp. If anyone knows
> some of the people who raised their hand, make sure they get in touch
> with me - email, #chipy, reply to this tread, maybe I can get
> Rendezvous involved.
>
>
> --
> Carl K
>
>
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From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:44:36 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <549053140907151144m4c8fffc2h334cfae5177dfa87@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM, redDEAD wrote:
> Carl you can put me on the list for the python crash course. I'm down for
> any of the days mentioned.
Some time I will have a more formal sign up, make sure you get on that.
I will search my in box for messages and try to find people who are
interested know, but I might miss some. bwtween the 2 of us trying, I
am sure one will succeed.
--
Carl K
From ladams at ladams.interaccess.com Wed Jul 15 20:08:13 2009
From: ladams at ladams.interaccess.com (ladams)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:08:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20090715180814.1D3821FA1@swiftsure.concentric.com>
Carl,
In answer to your request for feedback, I was one of the BARcamp hand raisers. I also indicated that either day would be fine with me. And of course, I am willing to pay $30 for lunch to support the cause.
On another note there is a limit to how much I can python (or anything) I can learn in two hours. but I will do what I can that day.
By the way I appreciate your efforts in setting this up and in doing the training so let me thank you in advance.
Gil Adams
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At barcamp I promised to give a 2 hour overview of Python syntax
sometime in August.
Like I put on the wiki:
* As much Python as you can learn in 2 hours by Carl Karsten.
* Either August 15 (Saturday) or 16 Sunday. 3-5,
* We can do 12:30-5 if we get $300food/drink+60tip commitment. so 10
people spending $30 on lunch, drinks and dinner.
* Preparation: Join the list, get Python running on your laptop. Join
the ChiPy `mailing list`_.
There were at least 5 people that were interested, so I want at least
that many people showing up. I don't care if it s the 5 from barcamp,
just so I am not doing a formal lesson in front of 2 people. I should
have collected names, there, but welcome to barcamp. If anyone knows
some of the people who raised their hand, make sure they get in touch
with me - email, #chipy, reply to this tread, maybe I can get
Rendezvous involved.
Carl K
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From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jul 15 20:52:17 2009
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:52:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <549053140907151144m4c8fffc2h334cfae5177dfa87@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<549053140907151144m4c8fffc2h334cfae5177dfa87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM, redDEAD wrote:
>> Carl you can put me on the list for the python crash course. I'm down for
>> any of the days mentioned.
>
> Some time I will have a more formal sign up, make sure you get on that.
I just noticed that Tim set up a wiki page for a python class for
pumpingstationone
Maybe you could use this page or make your own on the chipy wiki if
people want that class to be different. Or maybe the page could be
split up into pages per section. or something.
--
sheila
From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jul 15 20:54:43 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:54:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <20090715180814.1D3821FA1@swiftsure.concentric.com>
References:
<20090715180814.1D3821FA1@swiftsure.concentric.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907151154n7ba30c5w7e465f50cf683a1c@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM, ladams wrote:
> Carl,
>
>
> In answer to your request for feedback, I was one of the BARcamp hand raisers. ?I also indicated that either day would be fine with me. ?And of course, I am willing to pay $30 for lunch to support the cause.
The food is good.
>
> On another note there is a limit to how much I can python (or anything) I can learn in two hours. but I will do what I can that day.
I hope to talk for about 2 hours, then an hour or so of Q&A. I
believe most of the talk will be "yeah, thats easy.... get on to
interesting stuff" "thats easy.... and interesting, cool! more of
that!" and a few "omg, my head hurts. I am going to have to look at
the video later."
>
> By the way I appreciate your efforts in setting this up and in doing the training so let me thank you in advance.
>
you're welcome. the response has been pretty good, which makes me
feel pretty good :)
--
Carl K
From szybalski at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 22:36:35 2009
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
Message-ID: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
Would anybody know if there a standard python pdf library that can
extract information from a pdf?
I'm looking to extract:
1. Subject
2. Created Date
3. Number of Pages
Anybody know how to do that?
Thanks,
Lucas
--
Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
OpenLdap - From start to finish.
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
From ianb at colorstudy.com Thu Jul 16 00:17:13 2009
From: ianb at colorstudy.com (Ian Bicking)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:17:13 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
PDFMiner perhaps.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
> Hello,
> Would anybody know if there a standard python pdf library that can
> extract information from a pdf?
>
> I'm looking to extract:
>
> 1. Subject
> 2. Created Date
> 3. Number of Pages
>
> Anybody know how to do that?
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>
>
> --
> Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
> OpenLdap - From start to finish.
> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
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From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:20:18 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
In-Reply-To:
References: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907151520t356bb5d2sc91b96e4cfa33329@mail.gmail.com>
my guess:
https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~poppler-python
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
> PDFMiner perhaps.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lukasz Szybalski
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Would anybody know if there a standard python pdf library that can
>> extract information from a pdf?
>>
>> I'm looking to extract:
>>
>> 1. Subject
>> 2. Created Date
>> 3. Number of Pages
>>
>> Anybody know how to do that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>> --
>> Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
>> OpenLdap - From start to finish.
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
>
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From cosmin at offbytwo.com Thu Jul 16 01:51:08 2009
From: cosmin at offbytwo.com (Cosmin Stejerean)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:51:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
Message-ID:
There was supposed to be a Chicago Clojure meetup tonight, but it
looks like most of the regulars can't make it. So if you have nothing
else to do I invite you to come grab some beers at Sully's, I should
be here for a while.
Cosmin Stejerean (m)
From jsudlow at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 01:58:22 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:58:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
In-Reply-To: <549053140907151520t356bb5d2sc91b96e4cfa33329@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
<549053140907151520t356bb5d2sc91b96e4cfa33329@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
I really like pyPdf, search on google for it. Its real easy to extract data
and do other cool stuff. The attractive thing about pyPDF is its an all
python library so all you have to do is download the module for it, put it
in your python path and import it. Their are several examples on the
internet. Its not too bad.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> my guess:
>
> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~poppler-python
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
> > PDFMiner perhaps.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lukasz Szybalski
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Would anybody know if there a standard python pdf library that can
> >> extract information from a pdf?
> >>
> >> I'm looking to extract:
> >>
> >> 1. Subject
> >> 2. Created Date
> >> 3. Number of Pages
> >>
> >> Anybody know how to do that?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lucas
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
> >> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
> >> OpenLdap - From start to finish.
> >> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago mailing list
> >> Chicago at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ian Bicking | http://blog.ianbicking.org |
> > http://topplabs.org/civichacker
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: david.durham.jr at gmail.com (David Durham)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:08:31 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
> There was supposed to be a Chicago Clojure meetup tonight, but it looks like
> most of the regulars can't make it. So if ?you have nothing else to do I
> invite you to come grab some beers at Sully's, I should be here for a while.
I could be enticed to meet up. I do request that this time you not
personally attack me for not using emacs, and that I still be allowed
to make fun of programmers using "dual monitors." (I.e., those who
have not discovered the virtual desktops concept. I.i.e, (wo)men who
are unable to achieve on a level field of play.)
-Dave
From dgriff1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 19:12:58 2009
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:12:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <3db160680907161012x4f89e438xc05a0eb08d029006@mail.gmail.com>
We all know vim is the best text editor.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM, David Durham wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Cosmin Stejerean
> wrote:
> > There was supposed to be a Chicago Clojure meetup tonight, but it looks
> like
> > most of the regulars can't make it. So if you have nothing else to do I
> > invite you to come grab some beers at Sully's, I should be here for a
> while.
>
> I could be enticed to meet up. I do request that this time you not
> personally attack me for not using emacs, and that I still be allowed
> to make fun of programmers using "dual monitors." (I.e., those who
> have not discovered the virtual desktops concept. I.i.e, (wo)men who
> are unable to achieve on a level field of play.)
>
> -Dave
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To: <3db160680907161012x4f89e438xc05a0eb08d029006@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<3db160680907161012x4f89e438xc05a0eb08d029006@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:12, Daniel Griffin wrote:
> We all know vim is the best text editor.
and three monitors are better than two.
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From wscullin at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 19:39:02 2009
From: wscullin at gmail.com (William Scullin)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To:
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I wonder if that also applies to screen readers for the visually impaired?
- William
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:12, Daniel Griffin wrote:
>>
>> We all know vim is the best text editor.
>
> and three monitors are better than two.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
From dgriff1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 19:44:22 2009
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To:
References:
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1 monitor for your browser, 1 to hold your 2-4 vim windows and 1 to hold
itunes. Its perfect!
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM, William Scullin wrote:
> I wonder if that also applies to screen readers for the visually impaired?
>
> - William
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Brian Curtin
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:12, Daniel Griffin wrote:
> >>
> >> We all know vim is the best text editor.
> >
> > and three monitors are better than two.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From: david.durham.jr at gmail.com (David Durham)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:52:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] beers at sully's tonight?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM, David Durham wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
>> There was supposed to be a Chicago Clojure meetup tonight, but it looks like
>> most of the regulars can't make it. So if ?you have nothing else to do I
>> invite you to come grab some beers at Sully's, I should be here for a while.
>
> I could be enticed to meet up. ?I do request that this time you not
> personally attack me for not using emacs, and that I still be allowed
> to make fun of programmers using "dual monitors." ? (I.e., those who
> have not discovered the virtual desktops concept. I.i.e, (wo)men who
> are unable to achieve on a level field of play.)
Just realized that Cosmin's message was from Wednesday .. and I guess
that no Chipy folks are meeting up tonight.
-Dave
From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jul 21 04:45:53 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:45:53 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
In-Reply-To:
References: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
<549053140907151520t356bb5d2sc91b96e4cfa33329@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907201945s5b77724cw8ffad36cbd0ad121@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jon Sudlow wrote:
> pyPDF
Thankyou *4
>>> from pyPdf import PdfFileWriter, PdfFileReader
>>> input1 = PdfFileReader(open('test.pdf','rb'))
>>> print input1.getNumPages()
3
I needed that.
--
Carl K
From bray at sent.com Tue Jul 21 05:12:34 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:12:34 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
Message-ID: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
We got an offer from John Hunter to present on his Matplotlib http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
at a future ChiPy meeting. Any interest?
Technically, I am not organizing next meeting. Yes I did solicit Dr.
Hunter, force of habit :]
Nonetheless, John's previous ChiPy presentation was really great. This
time I promised our AV has improved.
Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
-- Brian Ray
From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jul 21 05:34:25 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907202034j5b098219tdcbfb5860168c33c@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Brian Ray wrote:
> We got an offer from John Hunter to present on his Matplotlib
> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/?at a future ChiPy meeting. ?Any interest?
>
> Technically, I am not organizing next meeting. Yes I did solicit Dr. Hunter,
> force of habit :]
>
> Nonetheless, John's previous ChiPy presentation was really great. This time
> I promised our AV has improved.
>
> Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
>
I like it. Not sure I have a need for it,but I like it.
--
Carl K
From cwebber at dustycloud.org Tue Jul 21 05:36:56 2009
From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:36:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com> (Brian Ray's
message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:12:34 -0500")
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID: <874ot67llz.fsf@grumps.dustycloud.org>
If he is down for presenting, I am down for watching.
Brian Ray writes:
> We got an offer from John Hunter to present on his Matplotlib
> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
> at a future ChiPy meeting. Any interest?
>
> Technically, I am not organizing next meeting. Yes I did solicit
> Dr. Hunter, force of habit :]
>
> Nonetheless, John's previous ChiPy presentation was really great. This
> time I promised our AV has improved.
>
> Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
>
> -- Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
From swgithen at mtu.edu Tue Jul 21 05:42:54 2009
From: swgithen at mtu.edu (Steven Githens)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:42:54 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID: <4A65393E.5070204@mtu.edu>
Brian Ray wrote:
> We got an offer from John Hunter to present on his Matplotlib
> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ at a future ChiPy meeting. Any
> interest?
>
> Technically, I am not organizing next meeting. Yes I did solicit Dr.
> Hunter, force of habit :]
>
> Nonetheless, John's previous ChiPy presentation was really great. This
> time I promised our AV has improved.
>
> Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
+1 This looks awesome. The AV improvement is also awesome, can't wait
to watch it on Blip ( I have been chronically out of the midwest on 2nd
thursdays this whole summer ).
-s
>
> -- Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
From jsudlow at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 06:25:33 2009
From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:25:33 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Extract information from PDF
In-Reply-To: <549053140907201945s5b77724cw8ffad36cbd0ad121@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70907151336ra614d73ye243adb29e06e5ad@mail.gmail.com>
<549053140907151520t356bb5d2sc91b96e4cfa33329@mail.gmail.com>
<549053140907201945s5b77724cw8ffad36cbd0ad121@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
No problem buddy, I thought pyPDF was really slick myself. Python is
amazing, in three lines of code you completed your goal.
In the future, if you ever try to extract data from the pdf into a string
and then write that string to a plain text file, you might get an encoding
ASCII error. Its a common error but its not well documented, let me know and
I'll point you in the right direction if it comes up.
-Jon
On 7/20/09, Carl Karsten wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jon Sudlow wrote:
> > pyPDF
>
> Thankyou *4
>
> >>> from pyPdf import PdfFileWriter, PdfFileReader
> >>> input1 = PdfFileReader(open('test.pdf','rb'))
> >>> print input1.getNumPages()
> 3
>
> I needed that.
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From tpollari at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 17:39:21 2009
From: tpollari at gmail.com (Ted Pollari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:39:21 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID:
On Jul 20, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Brian Ray wrote:
> Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
as +1 as I can be...
-tcp
From robkapteyn at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 18:33:55 2009
From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID:
That would be awesome ;-)
Matplotlib does more than just graphs, by the way.
John did a presentation for us ~4-5 years ago, but the projector was
not working and we had to stand around his laptop.
It was awesome anyway.
He should know that we are now very well equipped in the projector/AV
area.
I would say more more about his last presentation, but I don't want to
upstage whatever he is planning for this time ;-)
-Rob
On Jul 20, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Brian Ray wrote:
> We got an offer from John Hunter to present on his Matplotlib http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
> at a future ChiPy meeting. Any interest?
>
> Technically, I am not organizing next meeting. Yes I did solicit Dr.
> Hunter, force of habit :]
>
> Nonetheless, John's previous ChiPy presentation was really great.
> This time I promised our AV has improved.
>
> Lets all make some pretty graphs with Python. What do you say?
>
> -- Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
From jdh2358 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 18:37:52 2009
From: jdh2358 at gmail.com (John Hunter)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:37:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
Message-ID: <88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Rob Kapteyn wrote:
> That would be awesome ;-)
> Matplotlib does more than just graphs, by the way.
>
> John did a presentation for us ~4-5 years ago, but the projector was not
> working and we had to stand around his laptop.
> It was awesome anyway.
> He should know that we are now very well equipped in the projector/AV area.
>
> I would say more more about his last presentation, but I don't want to
> upstage whatever he is planning for this time ;-)
Thanks all for the vote of confidence -- I am looking forward to a
chipy presentation with audio/visual! Any chance we can have internet
connectivity too? IOne of the things I would like to show off are
some of our sphinx extensions for mathtext and embedding figures, eg
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/users/mathtext.html
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/api/axes_api.html#matplotlib.axes.Axes.acorr
and some of the demos pull data down off the internet....
JDH
From cosmin at offbytwo.com Tue Jul 21 18:46:40 2009
From: cosmin at offbytwo.com (Cosmin Stejerean)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:46:40 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
<88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <383bbcce0907210946o18f8c642q9438c59a4fefe9fd@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM, John Hunter wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Rob Kapteyn wrote:
> > That would be awesome ;-)
> > Matplotlib does more than just graphs, by the way.
> >
> > John did a presentation for us ~4-5 years ago, but the projector was not
> > working and we had to stand around his laptop.
> > It was awesome anyway.
> > He should know that we are now very well equipped in the projector/AV
> area.
> >
> > I would say more more about his last presentation, but I don't want to
> > upstage whatever he is planning for this time ;-)
>
> Thanks all for the vote of confidence -- I am looking forward to a
> chipy presentation with audio/visual! Any chance we can have internet
> connectivity too?
Assuming we meet at Sully's internet will be available.
--
Cosmin Stejerean
http://offbytwo.com
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From dgriff1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 19:53:42 2009
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:53:42 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <383bbcce0907210946o18f8c642q9438c59a4fefe9fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
<88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
<383bbcce0907210946o18f8c642q9438c59a4fefe9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3db160680907211053n2ad1718eh2f42884383e970ad@mail.gmail.com>
We have done sullys twice in a row or maybe more now, probably time for a
change.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM, John Hunter wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Rob Kapteyn
>> wrote:
>> > That would be awesome ;-)
>> > Matplotlib does more than just graphs, by the way.
>> >
>> > John did a presentation for us ~4-5 years ago, but the projector was not
>> > working and we had to stand around his laptop.
>> > It was awesome anyway.
>> > He should know that we are now very well equipped in the projector/AV
>> area.
>> >
>> > I would say more more about his last presentation, but I don't want to
>> > upstage whatever he is planning for this time ;-)
>>
>> Thanks all for the vote of confidence -- I am looking forward to a
>> chipy presentation with audio/visual! Any chance we can have internet
>> connectivity too?
>
>
> Assuming we meet at Sully's internet will be available.
>
> --
> Cosmin Stejerean
> http://offbytwo.com
>
>
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From bray at sent.com Tue Jul 21 19:56:33 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:56:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <3db160680907211053n2ad1718eh2f42884383e970ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
<88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
<383bbcce0907210946o18f8c642q9438c59a4fefe9fd@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID:
On Jul 21, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Daniel Griffin wrote:
> We have done sullys twice in a row or maybe more now, probably time
> for a change.
Generally, I agree with this statement. I like moving meetings around.
Nonetheless, I think we need to be sure to have great AV / Internet
connection for John's presentation.
Regards,
Brian Ray
From chad at glendenin.com Tue Jul 21 21:34:54 2009
From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
<88e473830907210937x5c547d80ic243c32fd082d4b2@mail.gmail.com>
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Maybe we should try to find a local college to host the meeting, so
that we could encourage more students and faculty in the area to stop
by for the presentation. Even though I'm not actively doing the
academic thing at the moment, I still have the lingering ambition of
getting scientists to stop using proprietary software,[1] which means
convincing them to let go of MatLab.[2]
There are Python-friendly folks at the Univ of Chicago that we could
probably convince to help us find some space there, but if I remember
correctly from the days when Ted, Michael, the Humanized guys, and
other UofC people made up a bigger force within ChiPy, we still never
managed to convince the rest of you to make the trek to the South
Side... But let me know if you're interested, and I'll ask around.
ccg
[1] Maybe I'm a zealot, but I think that the closed, anti-sharing
philosophy of proprietary software is antithetical to the philosophy
of openness that is fundamental in science.
[2] It seems that they like MatLab for two reasons: (1) the language,
which includes syntactic sugar for things like vector and matrix
operations, and (2) graphing. For (1), we have Octave to replace the
language, but I'd rather bring people into the Python community, and
for (2), matplotlib.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Brian Ray wrote:
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Daniel Griffin wrote:
>
>> We have done sullys twice in a row or maybe more now, probably time for a
>> change.
>
>
> Generally, I agree with this statement. I like moving meetings around.
>
> Nonetheless, I think we need to be sure to have great AV / Internet
> connection for John's presentation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
From cosmin at offbytwo.com Tue Jul 21 21:59:18 2009
From: cosmin at offbytwo.com (Cosmin Stejerean)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:59:18 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
In-Reply-To: <191d03ff0907211234n2e9c51cfx64927f21030aa650@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27DC413D-AAE6-4D58-867F-79C4EE8B7A7C@sent.com>
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote:
> Maybe we should try to find a local college to host the meeting, so
> that we could encourage more students and faculty in the area to stop
> by for the presentation.
I like that idea in general, but I'm curious how many students and faculty
are going to be around given that it's the middle of the summer.
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From: tpollari at gmail.com (Ted Pollari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:05:20 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
> I like that idea in general, but I'm curious how many students and
> faculty are going to be around given that it's the middle of the
> summer.
Many faculty are around to some extent -- in some views, the Summer is
the best time because students aren't around ;-)
-tcp
From chad at glendenin.com Tue Jul 21 22:11:33 2009
From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:11:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
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That's what I was about to say. Also, from what I've seen, grad
students in the sciences tend to be around in the summer for the same
reason -- they can make some progress their dissertation work without
the constant interruptions of grading homework and running lab
sessions.
ccg
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Ted Pollari wrote:
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
>
>> I like that idea in general, but I'm curious how many students and faculty
>> are going to be around given that it's the middle of the summer.
>
>
> Many faculty are around to some extent -- in some views, the Summer is the
> best time because students aren't around ;-)
>
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From tpollari at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 22:04:34 2009
From: tpollari at gmail.com (Ted Pollari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:04:34 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote:
> There are Python-friendly folks at the Univ of Chicago that we could
> probably convince to help us find some space there, but if I remember
> correctly from the days when Ted, Michael, the Humanized guys, and
> other UofC people made up a bigger force within ChiPy, we still never
> managed to convince the rest of you to make the trek to the South
> Side... But let me know if you're interested, and I'll ask around.
>
> ccg
While I've always been open to trying to host (I could probably do it
if I asked), the sad truth is that the UofC is difficult to get to for
those not in Hyde Park, particularly after hours. If the group's
interested, I can check with the powers that be and see what we can
do...
I think the realities are that it'd be easier to focus attention on
faculty and staff at academic institutions and get them to come to our
meetings -- but there are challenges in that too... firstly, planning
a bit more in advance so that we can pitch cool topics like matplotlib
and spread the word, when appropriate.
-ted
From szybalski at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 23:49:32 2009
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:49:32 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
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Hello,
Just an FYI and response to my email in March.
To answer the question "which workflow software for me.....?"
The solution to the workflow software was ...... TRAC
Here is what we needed:
1. system supporting attachments (xmlrpc plugin for trac)
2. something which takes a fax, and turns it into a pdf (hylafax +
tiff2pdf + pyPDF to extract information like Subject, faxed date, and
fax number)
3. Initial stuff coming in would be 'new'. After looking at
something, you could assign it to the right group, who could then look
at it, and process/reassign it as necessary. It is kinda the same
workflow as typical ticket systems.
4. Q: Well,,bug trucking system would be an overkill???. We are talking about
moving files around from one folder to another folder. 1mb x 500 * 365 days
So in a week we are talking about 3500 bugs?
A: someone has to read each of the 3,500 files? I think a request tracker
is actually a good fit.
5. Added 2 custom fields for out ( xyz number, and abc number ) for
easy searching/indexing('new' folder needs to be index by users )
6. Additionally, using a ticket system would cause the following side
effects (which you described as things needed here or earlier):
- Maintain status: New, Open, In Progress, etc. I imagine you could
create status types as necessary.
- Maintain information of who does what.
- Maintain comments by people processing the request (if necessary).
- Maintain group information, sending to groups, processing of the
same request by many people in a group.
- Maintain access restrictions between different data from different users.
- Maintain very lengthy history without serious defects.
7.Created SQL reports so we can trac who, how many are open, how many
came in, how many closed, still opened after 15 days, ....
8. milestone = Departments (stages in processing)
version = "state we are doing business in"
component = "some special category like Second Request"
abc_number, xyz_number for fast indexing and integration with other systems.
So even do I initially was looking for a Document Management
Software/workflow software, it seems as TRAC was a best fit. The key
was to concentrate on the process and not where the data is coming
from. As soon as the process was figured out everything just fell into
proper place.
A month later (since the start) and 17,000 tickets in the system (at
least 17000 pages less to print) we are going strong! Fast, stable and
reliable.
Thanks,
Lucas
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:01 AM,
curtin at computer.org wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
> Did you get any response to this? If you get anything can you either summarize to the group, or send me a copy of your summary?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: "Lukasz Szybalski" <>
> To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <>
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:04:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
>
> Hello,
> Does anybody know of a good workflow software? I need a software that
> can take incoming pdfs (from 50-500 a day) and distribute them to
> individual users or groups. If its sent to a group then it needs to
> manage the files in that queue, until they are processed or sent
> somewhere else. Would be nice of it allow for lables (to do, need more
> information, etc)
>
> Any ideas, links, free or not, python?
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>
>
>
> --
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From nadra.yazaji at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 01:10:54 2009
From: nadra.yazaji at gmail.com (Nadra Yazaji)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:10:54 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] John Hunter at Future ChiPy Meeting
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Hello Guys,
i am new in this group, but i needs you help.....
i am still a beginer with Python , but sooooooooooo interested in learning
it.
Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
Thanks
Nadra
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ted Pollari wrote:
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote:
>
> There are Python-friendly folks at the Univ of Chicago that we could
>> probably convince to help us find some space there, but if I remember
>> correctly from the days when Ted, Michael, the Humanized guys, and
>> other UofC people made up a bigger force within ChiPy, we still never
>> managed to convince the rest of you to make the trek to the South
>> Side... But let me know if you're interested, and I'll ask around.
>>
>> ccg
>>
>
>
> While I've always been open to trying to host (I could probably do it if I
> asked), the sad truth is that the UofC is difficult to get to for those not
> in Hyde Park, particularly after hours. If the group's interested, I can
> check with the powers that be and see what we can do...
>
> I think the realities are that it'd be easier to focus attention on faculty
> and staff at academic institutions and get them to come to our meetings --
> but there are challenges in that too... firstly, planning a bit more in
> advance so that we can pitch cool topics like matplotlib and spread the
> word, when appropriate.
>
> -ted
>
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:28:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Nadra Yazaji wrote:
> Hello Guys,
>
> i am new in this group, but i needs you help.....
>
> i am still a beginer with Python , but sooooooooooo interested in learning
> it.
> Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
right now: surf around http://pycon.blip.tv then hit
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#next-meeting
Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#tutorial-day
--
Carl K
From nadra.yazaji at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 01:30:26 2009
From: nadra.yazaji at gmail.com (Nadra Yazaji)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:30:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
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Thank you so much, i will sure do that, and i really do appreciate your help
Nadra
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Nadra Yazaji
> wrote:
> > Hello Guys,
> >
> > i am new in this group, but i needs you help.....
> >
> > i am still a beginer with Python , but sooooooooooo interested in
> learning
> > it.
> > Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
>
> right now: surf around http://pycon.blip.tv then hit
> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
>
> Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#next-meeting
>
> Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#tutorial-day
>
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From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:58:39 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
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If you want to become a python ninja, you need to start applying your skills
right away, because simply knowing the semantics and rules and the way
python interprets data is not going to get you very far. You'll just know
how to do everything but have nothing to do.
If you want to improve yourself I would start looking at all the things
python drives. These are exciting because the simplicity of python comes
alive as you work with these different frameworks.
Start picking up framework experience with Python. I would highly recomend
Django, its a framework for dynamic websites which is really good.
Python can be used to create GIMP scripts with, which is pretty sweet.
If you want to make 2d games, Pygame is an AWSOME library. I used it to
create ubuntu fighter. Where you played the ubuntu logo shooting "GPL"
bullets at the M$ ships
Get pySQL and start learning how to interact with Databases, this is a very
valuable skill!
I can't remember but there are 3d engines written in python too.
I list all of these because, beyond the study of the language, the way I
really and truly learned the ins and outs of it was in the terminal hacking
away. And thus, you need a test project to experiment with. Making games was
fun for me. Maybe you'll like the dynamic websites? Its up to you. As the
other people said as well, go to the python meetings. I have only been too
one or two meetings, but when I went to them, afterwards I had to put my
head down for 5 mins. because you truly learn a lot!
-Jon
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Nadra Yazaji wrote:
> Thank you so much, i will sure do that, and i really do appreciate your
> help
>
> Nadra
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Nadra Yazaji
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Guys,
>> >
>> > i am new in this group, but i needs you help.....
>> >
>> > i am still a beginer with Python , but sooooooooooo interested in
>> learning
>> > it.
>> > Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
>>
>> right now: surf around http://pycon.blip.tv then hit
>> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
>>
>> Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#next-meeting
>>
>> Come to http://chipy.org/FrontPage#tutorial-day
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From: nadra.yazaji at gmail.com (nadra.yazaji at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:04:16 +0000
Subject: [Chicago] Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
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thank you for the helpful information. Really do appreciate it
Nadra
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 02:22:21 2009
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:21 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Any ideas about how can i imporive myself?
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:04 PM, wrote:
> thank you for the helpful information. Really do appreciate it
> Nadra
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
Hi Nadra -- in addition to excellent advice already given, search
your own heart about what interests you personally, outside of Python
in particular, and use that as a motivation to either join a project
or start a new one. Some people care about music, get into PyGame or
PyMedia for that reason. I don't know of a BlackBerry is Python
programmable (probably not smart enough) but "device control" is
definitely a turn on for *some* people. No one else can tell you what
you care about, so don't be shy about asking yourself pointed
questions, listening hard to what you say.
http://pymedia.org/
http://pygame.org/
In my case, I like the idea of native American kids learning to code
their own slot machines, look to Paul Allen and other foundations for
outreach opportunities. You'll see evidence of that interest in the
"rich data structures" I use to teach about Python dictionaries:
http://www.mail-archive.com/edu-sig at python.org/msg04728.html
http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2008/07/python-project.html
If we're lucky, some of these kids'll be contacting Vern Ceder about
getting some poster space at an upcoming Pycon. We shall see.
Grownups also get to play.
Kirby
From ross at crowdspring.com Wed Jul 22 01:54:58 2009
From: ross at crowdspring.com (Ross Kimbarovsky)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:54:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
Message-ID:
Hey guys - we're not quite ready yet (still working hard to complete
our refactoring project to Python/Django), but we'd love to host an
upcoming meeting (probably in September) and volunteer to do one of
the presentations at that meeting (sharing what we've learned during
our refactoring project).
Just wanted to throw this out there (saw that there's discussion about
locations for future meetings). We've got A/V and solid internet. And
a ping-pong table. :)
Best,
Ross
_____
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P: 312.962.7700
M: 847.275.9004
http://www.crowdspring.com
http://www.twitter.com/rosskimbarovsky
From tpollari at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 02:32:46 2009
From: tpollari at gmail.com (Ted Pollari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:32:46 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
In-Reply-To:
References:
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Ross Kimbarovsky wrote:
> Just wanted to throw this out there (saw that there's discussion about
> locations for future meetings). We've got A/V and solid internet. And
> a ping-pong table. :)
Where are you located? It all sounds like an excellent offer, so
assuming you're transit enabled, I'm all for it!
-ted
From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Wed Jul 22 03:48:49 2009
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
In-Reply-To:
References:
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crowdSPRING is at 1200 W. Lake (and Racine).
Tentative title for a proposed future talk: "Why Django Sucks." It would
include some live stats and live rants. Too provocative?
-Tal (now at crowdSPRING)
> Where are you located? It all sounds like an excellent offer, so
> assuming you're transit enabled, I'm all for it!
From tpollari at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 04:22:43 2009
From: tpollari at gmail.com (Ted Pollari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:22:43 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
> crowdSPRING is at 1200 W. Lake (and Racine).
>
> Tentative title for a proposed future talk: "Why Django Sucks." It
> would include some live stats and live rants. Too provocative?
Naw -- you'd have to try harder than that. But don't -- that wasn't a
challenge.
So, based on everything, I propose that we stay @ Sully's for August
and head to crowdSPRING for September -- unless someone else wants to
speak up with a different venue for August.
-ted
From g at rre.tt Wed Jul 22 04:26:36 2009
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
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That's pretty sweet! I think this would make for an outstanding Thurs
night presentation, if you might happen to have the time and
inclination to put something together :)
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just an FYI and response to my email in March.
>
>
> To answer the question "which workflow software for me.....?"
>
> The solution to the workflow software was ...... TRAC
>
>
> Here is what we needed:
> 1. system supporting attachments (xmlrpc plugin for trac)
> 2. something which takes a fax, and turns it into a pdf (hylafax +
> tiff2pdf + pyPDF to extract information like Subject, faxed date, and
> fax number)
> 3. Initial stuff coming in would be 'new'. ?After looking at
> something, you could assign it to the right group, who could then look
> at it, and process/reassign it as necessary. ?It is kinda the same
> workflow as typical ticket systems.
> 4. Q: Well,,bug trucking system would be an overkill???. We are talking about
> moving files around from one folder to another folder. 1mb x 500 * 365 days
> So in a week we are talking about 3500 bugs?
> A: someone has to read each of the 3,500 files? I think a request tracker
> is actually a good fit.
> 5. Added 2 custom fields for out ( xyz number, and abc number ) for
> easy searching/indexing('new' folder needs to be index by users )
> 6. Additionally, using a ticket system would cause the following side
> effects (which you described as things needed here or earlier):
> - Maintain status: New, Open, In Progress, etc. ?I imagine you could
> create status types as necessary.
> - Maintain information of who does what.
> - Maintain comments by people processing the request (if necessary).
> - Maintain group information, sending to groups, processing of the
> same request by many people in a group.
> - Maintain access restrictions between different data from different users.
> - Maintain very lengthy history without serious defects.
> 7.Created SQL reports so we can trac who, how many are open, how many
> came in, how many closed, still opened after 15 days, ....
> 8. milestone = Departments (stages in processing)
> ? version = "state we are doing business in"
> ?component = "some special category like Second Request"
> abc_number, xyz_number for fast indexing and integration with other systems.
>
>
> So even do I initially was looking for a Document Management
> Software/workflow software, it seems as TRAC was a best fit. The key
> was to concentrate on the process and not where the data is coming
> from. As soon as the process was figured out everything just fell into
> proper place.
>
> A month later (since the start) and 17,000 tickets in the system (at
> least 17000 pages less to print) we are going strong! Fast, stable and
> reliable.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:01 AM,
> curtin at computer.org wrote:
>> Hi Lucas,
>> Did you get any response to this? If you get anything can you either summarize to the group, or send me a copy of your summary?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Craig
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> From: "Lukasz Szybalski" <>
>> To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <>
>> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:04:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
>>
>> Hello,
>> Does anybody know of a good workflow software? I need a software that
>> can take incoming pdfs (from 50-500 a day) and distribute them to
>> individual users or groups. If its sent to a group then it needs to
>> manage the files in that queue, until they are processed or sent
>> somewhere else. Would be nice of it allow for lables (to do, need more
>> information, etc)
>>
>> Any ideas, links, free or not, python?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> How to create python package?
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/PythonPaste
>> Bazaar and Launchpad
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/Bazaar
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
> OpenLdap - From start to finish.
> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
From dgriff1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 04:34:26 2009
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
In-Reply-To:
References: <804e5c70903020704h29f35fe6kc86f71f85834d38d@mail.gmail.com>
<1430040874.1561171236171715297.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
<804e5c70907211449y731a5244p257b93a8453e856a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3db160680907211934t13412180p9c9af2cd94aada02@mail.gmail.com>
What database did you hook trac to?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> That's pretty sweet! I think this would make for an outstanding Thurs
> night presentation, if you might happen to have the time and
> inclination to put something together :)
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Lukasz Szybalski
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just an FYI and response to my email in March.
> >
> >
> > To answer the question "which workflow software for me.....?"
> >
> > The solution to the workflow software was ...... TRAC
> >
> >
> > Here is what we needed:
> > 1. system supporting attachments (xmlrpc plugin for trac)
> > 2. something which takes a fax, and turns it into a pdf (hylafax +
> > tiff2pdf + pyPDF to extract information like Subject, faxed date, and
> > fax number)
> > 3. Initial stuff coming in would be 'new'. After looking at
> > something, you could assign it to the right group, who could then look
> > at it, and process/reassign it as necessary. It is kinda the same
> > workflow as typical ticket systems.
> > 4. Q: Well,,bug trucking system would be an overkill???. We are talking
> about
> > moving files around from one folder to another folder. 1mb x 500 * 365
> days
> > So in a week we are talking about 3500 bugs?
> > A: someone has to read each of the 3,500 files? I think a request tracker
> > is actually a good fit.
> > 5. Added 2 custom fields for out ( xyz number, and abc number ) for
> > easy searching/indexing('new' folder needs to be index by users )
> > 6. Additionally, using a ticket system would cause the following side
> > effects (which you described as things needed here or earlier):
> > - Maintain status: New, Open, In Progress, etc. I imagine you could
> > create status types as necessary.
> > - Maintain information of who does what.
> > - Maintain comments by people processing the request (if necessary).
> > - Maintain group information, sending to groups, processing of the
> > same request by many people in a group.
> > - Maintain access restrictions between different data from different
> users.
> > - Maintain very lengthy history without serious defects.
> > 7.Created SQL reports so we can trac who, how many are open, how many
> > came in, how many closed, still opened after 15 days, ....
> > 8. milestone = Departments (stages in processing)
> > version = "state we are doing business in"
> > component = "some special category like Second Request"
> > abc_number, xyz_number for fast indexing and integration with other
> systems.
> >
> >
> > So even do I initially was looking for a Document Management
> > Software/workflow software, it seems as TRAC was a best fit. The key
> > was to concentrate on the process and not where the data is coming
> > from. As soon as the process was figured out everything just fell into
> > proper place.
> >
> > A month later (since the start) and 17,000 tickets in the system (at
> > least 17000 pages less to print) we are going strong! Fast, stable and
> > reliable.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lucas
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:01 AM,
> > curtin at computer.org wrote:
> >> Hi Lucas,
> >> Did you get any response to this? If you get anything can you either
> summarize to the group, or send me a copy of your summary?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Craig
> >> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >> From: "Lukasz Szybalski" <>
> >> To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:04:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> >> Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Does anybody know of a good workflow software? I need a software that
> >> can take incoming pdfs (from 50-500 a day) and distribute them to
> >> individual users or groups. If its sent to a group then it needs to
> >> manage the files in that queue, until they are processed or sent
> >> somewhere else. Would be nice of it allow for lables (to do, need more
> >> information, etc)
> >>
> >> Any ideas, links, free or not, python?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lucas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> How to create python package?
> >> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/PythonPaste
> >> Bazaar and Launchpad
> >> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/Bazaar
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago mailing list
> >> Chicago at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
> > http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
> > OpenLdap - From start to finish.
> > http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:12:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
In-Reply-To: <4A667001.2020308@threecrickets.com>
References:
<4A667001.2020308@threecrickets.com>
Message-ID: <20090722031249.GC12516@furrr.two14.net>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:48:49PM -0500, Tal Liron wrote:
> Tentative title for a proposed future talk: "Why Django Sucks." It would
> include some live stats and live rants. Too provocative?
Come, let us compare notes... :-)
--
The people who are serious in the open source world
don't really think that making money is an evil process.
Not even Richard Stallman. Where you get that from is your
cliche 12-year old on Slashdot who doesn't understand it. -- Bruce Perens
From joe at germuska.com Wed Jul 22 13:54:46 2009
From: joe at germuska.com (Joe Germuska)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:54:46 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] crowdSPRING will be happy to host a future meeting
In-Reply-To: <4A667001.2020308@threecrickets.com>
References:
<4A667001.2020308@threecrickets.com>
Message-ID: <242960fe0907220454m23268a8ay69112216e70c112@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Tal Liron wrote:
> Tentative title for a proposed future talk: "Why Django Sucks." It would
> include some live stats and live rants. Too provocative?
>
Cal Henderson (Flickr) did "Why I Hate Django" at DjangoCon2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Fr65PFqfk
Joe
--
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From bray at sent.com Wed Jul 22 16:46:33 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:46:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Mobile device testing
Message-ID: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
Hey all:
Hope mobile testing is not to far off topic for this list; although, I
know we have some experts so I thought I would give it a swing.
I have a client who wants me to convert their existing survey (done in
ExtJS, over Django, btw) to be viewable from a particular mobile
phone's browser. I am already detecting and parsing User Agents.
Currently I send them to a page saying to use a desktop computer. I
do not mind re-writing the form for mobile devices. Testing is the
bigger issue here.
I saw this site http://ready.mobi/ Not sure if their is a better
way. Is there a way to run test nightly with perhaps a Python
framework to test mobile devices. Under the hood I am sure these
testing sites use some Lint engines. Any ideas how I test my product
in the most Pythonic way possible?
Brian Ray
From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jul 22 16:58:20 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Mobile device testing
In-Reply-To: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
References: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907220758n9569eddn8f2ebbc3263a080b@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote:
> Hey all:
>
> Hope mobile testing is not to far off topic for this list; although, I know
> we have some experts so I thought I would give it a swing.
>
> I have a client who wants me to convert their existing survey (done in
> ExtJS, over Django, btw) to be viewable from a particular mobile phone's
> browser. I am already detecting and parsing User Agents. Currently I send
> them to a page saying to use a desktop computer. ?I do not mind re-writing
> the form for mobile devices. Testing is the bigger issue here.
>
> I saw this site http://ready.mobi/ ?Not sure if their is a better way. ?Is
> there a way to run test nightly with perhaps a Python framework to test
> mobile devices. ?Under the hood I am sure these testing sites use some Lint
> engines. Any ideas how I test my product in the most Pythonic way possible?
you might want to see this iPhoneCamp video:
"Unit Testing using Google Toolbox for Mac" by Rusty Zarse
But I can't show it because I don't have a release. I am guessing it
is an oversite, cuz the camera was 20' from him and he didn't object.
But I can't figure out how to contact him. I found a blog and a
company, posted to "contact me" but have not heard back. find me an
email address and I will take care of the release issue.
>
> Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
--
Carl K
From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Wed Jul 22 16:50:42 2009
From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:50:42 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Mobile device testing
In-Reply-To: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
References: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
Message-ID: <4A672742.6060206@mail.edisonave.net>
Hello,
IF you have some cash to burn you could use Device Anywhere
http://www.deviceanywhere.com
It isn't cheap though:
https://www.deviceanywhere.com/index.aspx?sid=2&ssid=8&cid=65
The nice thing is that you can test your app on the actual
hardware/software of the phone.
-Tom
Brian Ray wrote:
> Hey all:
>
> Hope mobile testing is not to far off topic for this list; although, I
> know we have some experts so I thought I would give it a swing.
>
> I have a client who wants me to convert their existing survey (done in
> ExtJS, over Django, btw) to be viewable from a particular mobile phone's
> browser. I am already detecting and parsing User Agents. Currently I
> send them to a page saying to use a desktop computer. I do not mind
> re-writing the form for mobile devices. Testing is the bigger issue here.
>
> I saw this site http://ready.mobi/ Not sure if their is a better way.
> Is there a way to run test nightly with perhaps a Python framework to
> test mobile devices. Under the hood I am sure these testing sites use
> some Lint engines. Any ideas how I test my product in the most Pythonic
> way possible?
>
> Brian Ray
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jul 22 17:43:40 2009
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Mobile device testing
In-Reply-To: <549053140907220758n9569eddn8f2ebbc3263a080b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7BCC035F-79EE-4063-AEA1-F09F4CC9CDD7@sent.com>
<549053140907220758n9569eddn8f2ebbc3263a080b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <549053140907220843h54b94389h48da2c6b068faa05@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Carl Karsten wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote:
>> Hey all:
>>
>> Hope mobile testing is not to far off topic for this list; although, I know
>> we have some experts so I thought I would give it a swing.
>>
>> I have a client who wants me to convert their existing survey (done in
>> ExtJS, over Django, btw) to be viewable from a particular mobile phone's
>> browser. I am already detecting and parsing User Agents. Currently I send
>> them to a page saying to use a desktop computer. ?I do not mind re-writing
>> the form for mobile devices. Testing is the bigger issue here.
>>
>> I saw this site http://ready.mobi/ ?Not sure if their is a better way. ?Is
>> there a way to run test nightly with perhaps a Python framework to test
>> mobile devices. ?Under the hood I am sure these testing sites use some Lint
>> engines. Any ideas how I test my product in the most Pythonic way possible?
>
> you might want to see this iPhoneCamp video:
> "Unit Testing using Google Toolbox for Mac" by Rusty Zarse
>
> But I can't show it because I don't have a release. ?I am guessing it
> is an oversite, cuz the camera was 20' from him and he didn't object.
> But I can't figure out how to contact him. ?I found a blog and a
> company, posted to "contact me" but have not heard back. ?find me an
> email address and I will take care of the release issue.
Bam:
>From Rusty Zarse
To Carl
Hi Carl,
I got your note through Ockham. Absolutely, you can post my iPhone
talks. I was pleased that they went as well as they did. It was an
excellent unconference.
Thanks
Rusty Zarse _________________
CTO Ockham Research
rzarse at ockhamresearch.com
678-461-9792
--
Carl K
From szybalski at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 05:17:37 2009
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:17:37 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
In-Reply-To:
References: <804e5c70903020704h29f35fe6kc86f71f85834d38d@mail.gmail.com>
<1430040874.1561171236171715297.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
<804e5c70907211449y731a5244p257b93a8453e856a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <804e5c70907222017u49bda126j99d2f23fa6b0e633@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> That's pretty sweet! I think this would make for an outstanding Thurs
> night presentation, if you might happen to have the time and
> inclination to put something together :)
Not this month, sorry.
Mysql
Lucas
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just an FYI and response to my email in March.
>>
>>
>> To answer the question "which workflow software for me.....?"
>>
>> The solution to the workflow software was ...... TRAC
>>
>>
>> Here is what we needed:
>> 1. system supporting attachments (xmlrpc plugin for trac)
>> 2. something which takes a fax, and turns it into a pdf (hylafax +
>> tiff2pdf + pyPDF to extract information like Subject, faxed date, and
>> fax number)
>> 3. Initial stuff coming in would be 'new'. ?After looking at
>> something, you could assign it to the right group, who could then look
>> at it, and process/reassign it as necessary. ?It is kinda the same
>> workflow as typical ticket systems.
>> 4. Q: Well,,bug trucking system would be an overkill???. We are talking about
>> moving files around from one folder to another folder. 1mb x 500 * 365 days
>> So in a week we are talking about 3500 bugs?
>> A: someone has to read each of the 3,500 files? I think a request tracker
>> is actually a good fit.
>> 5. Added 2 custom fields for out ( xyz number, and abc number ) for
>> easy searching/indexing('new' folder needs to be index by users )
>> 6. Additionally, using a ticket system would cause the following side
>> effects (which you described as things needed here or earlier):
>> - Maintain status: New, Open, In Progress, etc. ?I imagine you could
>> create status types as necessary.
>> - Maintain information of who does what.
>> - Maintain comments by people processing the request (if necessary).
>> - Maintain group information, sending to groups, processing of the
>> same request by many people in a group.
>> - Maintain access restrictions between different data from different users.
>> - Maintain very lengthy history without serious defects.
>> 7.Created SQL reports so we can trac who, how many are open, how many
>> came in, how many closed, still opened after 15 days, ....
>> 8. milestone = Departments (stages in processing)
>> ? version = "state we are doing business in"
>> ?component = "some special category like Second Request"
>> abc_number, xyz_number for fast indexing and integration with other systems.
>>
>>
>> So even do I initially was looking for a Document Management
>> Software/workflow software, it seems as TRAC was a best fit. The key
>> was to concentrate on the process and not where the data is coming
>> from. As soon as the process was figured out everything just fell into
>> proper place.
>>
>> A month later (since the start) and 17,000 tickets in the system (at
>> least 17000 pages less to print) we are going strong! Fast, stable and
>> reliable.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:01 AM,
>> curtin at computer.org wrote:
>>> Hi Lucas,
>>> Did you get any response to this? If you get anything can you either summarize to the group, or send me a copy of your summary?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Craig
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: "Lukasz Szybalski" <>
>>> To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:04:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>>> Subject: [Chicago] workflow software?
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Does anybody know of a good workflow software? I need a software that
>>> can take incoming pdfs (from 50-500 a day) and distribute them to
>>> individual users or groups. If its sent to a group then it needs to
>>> manage the files in that queue, until they are processed or sent
>>> somewhere else. Would be nice of it allow for lables (to do, need more
>>> information, etc)
>>>
>>> Any ideas, links, free or not, python?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> How to create python package?
>>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/PythonPaste
>>> Bazaar and Launchpad
>>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/Bazaar
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
>> OpenLdap - From start to finish.
>> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
--
Using rsync. How to setup rsyncd.
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/rsync
OpenLdap - From start to finish.
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/OpenLdap