[Chicago] [OT] Dijit Widgets

Sat Nov 3 16:25:20 CET 2007

My work got into dojo using the tree widgets..  It is actually a nice
javascript toolkit, and performance has certainly improved since 0.4.  It's
very simple to manage too.  Everyone is encouraged to check it out.

On 11/2/07, Stephen Z <sjzabel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That is pretty much what we are using over here at Optaros; lots of
> prototype/scriptaculous for general things, yui for widgets and yui
> grids/font/reset and blueprints for css.
>
> ExtJS is also starting to be put into heavy rotation; while I have not
> personally used it, the developers that have speak pretty highly of
> it.
>
> The others that I would add to the list are Mootools and jQuery. I
> personally try to sneak Mootool in if the site does need a lot of
> scriptaculous like effects. I don't have a lot of experience with
> jQuery, but I know that it is what the Drupal community uses in most
> of their plugins and most developers that have used it say that it is
> pretty convenient. From personal experience jQuery is only library
> that allows a convenient way to rename its $() notation so that it can
> be used in conjunction with Prototype or Mootools.
>
> I have used most of these libraries in Django projects with much
> success :) While there is nothing builtin like RoR, template tags and
> an additional views file named ajax_views.py keep everything pretty
> manageable.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2007 6:17 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> > I'm +1 on YUI too. Until then I had been using prototypejs but YUI has
> > lots of people using it,  which translates into results when you are
> > searching.  When I get a minute to breathe I plan on trying out ExtJS.
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> > On 11/1/07, Chuck Martin <cwurld at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I am not sure what you mean by "forces you to use
> > > Yahoo services". I can't speak for the whole package,
> > > but the parts I am using seem to be self contained
> > > javascript that can run independent of the yahoo
> > > website.
> > >
> > > Maybe the confusion comes from the 2 ways you can use
> > > the code. You can download it and serve it from your
> > > own server. Or you can have the yahoo server serve the
> > > code for you. The advantage of having yahoo serve it
> > > is you will always have the most recent version. Since
> > > they are so active, I think that is a big plus.
> > >
> > > Or the confusion may come from one of yahoo's css
> > > files. They have one that they encourage all users to
> > > use. What is does is explicitly set a bunch of styles.
> > > They say the reason they do this is to create a
> > > consistent starting point. Without that css, each
> > > browser sets defaults for all those styles. Using this
> > > style sheet is optional. I found that it helped me
> > > avoid a lot of problems and made my webpage behave
> > > more consistently across browsers. But even with this
> > > style sheet, I can set my styles to whatever I want.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, I don't recall what version of Dojo I used.
> > > It was 9 months ago. It looked promising then. If I
> > > had to start from scratch today, I would definitely
> > > look into dojo.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Adam Jenkins <emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've heard good things, but I've also heard that YUI
> > > > "forces" (defaults) you
> > > > into using Yahoo services?
> > > > Yea, I heard about Dojo having incomplete
> > > > documentation. Could I ask, what
> > > > version were you using? They seem to be up to 0.9
> > > > and 1.0 beta.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/1/07, Chuck Martin <cwurld at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > About 9 months ago, I tried using dojo with my
> > > > Django
> > > > > site. Although dojo looked promising, I found it
> > > > > frustrating to use. The documentation was
> > > > incomplete
> > > > > and sometimes contradictory. I had the most luck
> > > > when
> > > > > I used their unit tests as documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > About the same time, I also explored Yahoo's User
> > > > > Interface (YUI) library. I had much better luck
> > > > with
> > > > > it. It has better documentation and lots of
> > > > examples.
> > > > > So dropped Dojo and am using YUI exclusively.
> > > > >
> > > > > YUI also has an incredibly active Yahoo Users
> > > > Group
> > > > > and it appears that they have people on the
> > > > payroll
> > > > > who work on this code full time.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that real amazed me was I was using
> > > > their
> > > > > layout code and ran into troubles with Safari. So
> > > > I
> > > > > posted a note on the message board. Some one
> > > > responded
> > > > > quickly and we exchanged several messages. I turns
> > > > out
> > > > > he was one of the Yahoo developers. Since I could
> > > > not
> > > > > resolve the problem, he actually logged into my
> > > > > webpage and worked on the problem for several
> > > > hours.
> > > > > Unfortunately he could not resolve it, but I
> > > > applaud
> > > > > the effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think putting YUI in the public domain is good
> > > > for
> > > > > Yahoo and good for the rest of us. They get a huge
> > > > > group of testers for free and we get some pretty
> > > > > robust code.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just recently caught up with Dojo...these
> > > > neat-o
> > > > > > "Dijits" seem like
> > > > > > they're God's gift to Javascript, which makes me
> > > > > > sort of weary.
> > > > > > Especially as I can't find anyone actually using
> > > > > > them, and the demo
> > > > > > page on the main Dojo site appears broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone using these things?  I'm really hoping
> > > > > > they're awesome, as I
> > > > > > dislike layout and design, and love data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
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