From clavallee01 at icloud.com  Fri Dec  1 13:29:35 2023
From: clavallee01 at icloud.com (Craig Lavallee)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 13:29:35 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
Message-ID: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>

MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
    pip
NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??

python setup.py sdist
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    python setup.py sdist
           ^^^^^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
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From brywilharris at gmail.com  Fri Dec  1 14:12:48 2023
From: brywilharris at gmail.com (Bryan Harris)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:12:48 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
In-Reply-To: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
References: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CADYFESGQeZ667Axf4CXZLgU-vFjmY8wpeE-fDfS8hcimxdkvCw@mail.gmail.com>

You probably don't have python in your path.  Check here:
 https://www.honchosearch.com/blog/seo/install-python-modulespackage-using-idle-mac

Bryan Harris
brywilharris at gmail.com

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 1:49?PM Craig Lavallee via CentralOH
<centraloh at python.org> wrote:
>
> MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:
>
>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>
>     pip
>
> NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??
>
>
> python setup.py sdist
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1
>
>     python setup.py sdist
>
>            ^^^^^
>
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From y2k at y2kbugger.com  Fri Dec  1 14:16:21 2023
From: y2k at y2kbugger.com (Zak Kohler)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:16:21 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
In-Reply-To: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
References: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAD8FQQ3EY8b03-JFmdawqqNCUHsR68qi0JL_D-c8L47Ohi9W4w@mail.gmail.com>

The problem is you should be running terminal commands in a terminal and
Python code in idle. The pip commands should be run in bash.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 13:49 Craig Lavallee via CentralOH <
centraloh at python.org> wrote:

> MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:
>
>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>
>     pip
>
> NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??
>
>
> python setup.py sdist
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1
>
>     python setup.py sdist
>
>            ^^^^^
>
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From brywilharris at gmail.com  Fri Dec  1 14:29:05 2023
From: brywilharris at gmail.com (Bryan Harris)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:29:05 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
In-Reply-To: <CAD8FQQ3EY8b03-JFmdawqqNCUHsR68qi0JL_D-c8L47Ohi9W4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
 <CAD8FQQ3EY8b03-JFmdawqqNCUHsR68qi0JL_D-c8L47Ohi9W4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYFESFMtNqQvH_9Xg0JWCLkvw8k3k_S03h7vK_CNyvenYF9Lg@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, you got it right.  He's trying to run bash commands in the python shell.
Bryan Harris
brywilharris at gmail.com

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 2:16?PM Zak Kohler <y2k at y2kbugger.com> wrote:
>
> The problem is you should be running terminal commands in a terminal and Python code in idle. The pip commands should be run in bash.
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 13:49 Craig Lavallee via CentralOH <centraloh at python.org> wrote:
>>
>> MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:
>>
>>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>
>>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>
>>     pip
>>
>> NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??
>>
>>
>> python setup.py sdist
>>
>>   File "<stdin>", line 1
>>
>>     python setup.py sdist
>>
>>            ^^^^^
>>
>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
>> CentralOH at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From brywilharris at gmail.com  Fri Dec  1 14:30:24 2023
From: brywilharris at gmail.com (Bryan Harris)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:30:24 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
In-Reply-To: <CADYFESFMtNqQvH_9Xg0JWCLkvw8k3k_S03h7vK_CNyvenYF9Lg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
 <CAD8FQQ3EY8b03-JFmdawqqNCUHsR68qi0JL_D-c8L47Ohi9W4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYFESFMtNqQvH_9Xg0JWCLkvw8k3k_S03h7vK_CNyvenYF9Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYFESEY1OC=43+qLORw6Kc8Hhd=mCD6zn7wUs3-z5O_xXa8Gw@mail.gmail.com>

Python 3.11.2 (main, Mar 13 2023, 12:18:29) [GCC 12.2.0] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> pip
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip'?
>>>

Bryan Harris
brywilharris at gmail.com

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 2:29?PM Bryan Harris <brywilharris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, you got it right.  He's trying to run bash commands in the python shell.
> Bryan Harris
> brywilharris at gmail.com
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 2:16?PM Zak Kohler <y2k at y2kbugger.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is you should be running terminal commands in a terminal and Python code in idle. The pip commands should be run in bash.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 13:49 Craig Lavallee via CentralOH <centraloh at python.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:
> >>
> >>  Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>
> >>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> >>
> >>     pip
> >>
> >> NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??
> >>
> >>
> >> python setup.py sdist
> >>
> >>   File "<stdin>", line 1
> >>
> >>     python setup.py sdist
> >>
> >>            ^^^^^
> >>
> >> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CentralOH mailing list
> >> CentralOH at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentralOH mailing list
> > CentralOH at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From jocassid at gmail.com  Fri Dec  1 21:29:49 2023
From: jocassid at gmail.com (John Cassidy)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:29:49 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python 3.13.0a2
In-Reply-To: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
References: <6279DE6B-C37E-42B1-9108-AB856230C243@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAGt6Gbe4wTAXGiXuATDo37h-vQiy5Ebfye-=M4wtb1ZOYWf1xQ@mail.gmail.com>

Out of curiosity,  what package are you trying to install with pip?

IDLE is handy when you're starting with the Python language and it's
standard library.   That said, there are better code editors and usually by
the time someone getting into 3rd party libraries they've moved on to
another editor.

Unfortunately,  I'm not a Mac user, but this looks like a good set of
instructions for getting started on a mac:
https://docs.python.org/3/using/mac.html

If you're in the Columbus area, COHPY (cohpy.org) has informal meetings
(dojos) every Thursday night.  These are a good place to get help with
technical issues.

If you want you can send me an email at jocassid at gmail.com.  If you can let
me know: what package you're trying to install, whether you're new to
Python and/or programming in generals, whether there some tutorial that
you're following, are you familiar with virtual environments (i.e. the venv
module) that would give me a better idea of what you're dealing with.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 1:49 PM Craig Lavallee via CentralOH <
centraloh at python.org> wrote:

> MAC user & I can not run any commands for IDEL. For instance:
>
>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>
>     pip
>
> NameError: name 'pip' is not defined. Did you mean: 'zip??
>
>
> python setup.py sdist
>
>   File "<stdin>", line 1
>
>     python setup.py sdist
>
>            ^^^^^
>
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
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