From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 1 17:57:17 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:57:17 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] 2012-04-30 Message-ID: <20120501115717.1f3527bf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Patrick of Nationwide was scoping Python talent Steve Holden http://holdenweb.com/??? http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2010/leaving-python-magazine/ http://www.pythonweekly.com/ http://www.nosqlweekly.com/ http://pycoders.com/ http://www.reddit.com/r/python http://celeryproject.org/ http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyflakes Brandon has integrated pyflakes with his editor (emacs) pyflakes is _much_ faster than pylint STFW for one's pyflakes and one's editor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroku platform as a service less proprietary than other cloud services backed up by normal mostly open source stuff great for non-system administrators Kenneth Reitz http://www.kennethreitz.com/ Craig Kerstiens http://www.craigkerstiens.com/ https://twitter.com/craigkerstiens Raymond Chandler (The Third!!!) playing with both Ruby and Python http://bottlepy.org/docs/dev/ very easy quick web framework Python version of sinatra Potion: wrapper on bottle with rules (ala Ruby) needs help (well Raymond, post such with your github URL) crabapple Raymond's XFCE on Archlinux hacked to be apple-ish HAML & Sass (dmsl/damsel & nemo in python) It's a templating language very popular in Ruby much less typing!!!!!! (Raymond was excited about this!!!) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/HAML https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Don't_repeat_yourself https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sass_(stylesheet_language) http://dmsl.dasa.cc/ tmux lag in responding to chars (e.g., ^C) from clients all viewers seem the same window all viewers see smallest size Jason Green: see aggressive resize http://mutelight.org/articles/practical-tmux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redis "The Joy of Clojure" Damien Conway's masterful "Object-Oriented Perl" (semi) Art House Theaters http://grandviewtheatre.net/Grandview_Theatre/Home.html http://www.drexel.net/ http://studio35.com/ https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Brazil_(film) (of course, Brazil has a connection to Python!!!) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ender's_Game_(series) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Source_Code https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tobias_S._Buckell https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Old_Boy https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bluffton,_Ohio https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wings_of_Desire https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tron https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ferris_Bueller's_Day_Off https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fahrenheit_451 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/The_Blues_Brothers https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hunger_Games https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film) ????/???? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/In_the_Mood_for_Love ????/???? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crouching_Tiger,_Hidden_Dragon ?????/????? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/New_Dragon_Gate_Inn kinda like arty backwards spaghetti western: very very confusing ????/???? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ashes_of_Time ?????????/????????? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Swordsman_II ?? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wing_Chun_(film) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/The_Vengeance_Trilogy From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 1 18:27:30 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:27:30 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] xrandr Message-ID: <20120501122730.4561e1e2.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> The xrandr man page is helpful only with experimentation. 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Since we are not a secret organization like a conference organizing mailing list, or the diversity mailing list, could the following archive be opened to the public: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/ Also: there was a question at the meeting last night about whether someone was a member of the mailing list, and I just discovered that a search for "cohpy mailing list" brings up *two* mailing lists, both of which seem to be active - here is the other one: http://www.meetup.com/Central-Ohio-Python-Users-Group/messages/archive/ I can understand why someone joining the group would see the Meetup mailing list, see that it is currently receiving new messages, and think that joining it has gotten them connected to the group. Whereas they would then miss great messages like this meeting summary, that are only on the private hidden secret inaccessible mailing list hosted on python.org. What should we do about the fact that we have two mailing lists that we expect people to join? -- Brandon Rhodes brandon at rhodesmill.org http://rhodesmill.org/brandon From eric at intellovations.com Tue May 1 19:35:01 2012 From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:35:01 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Mailing List Change Message-ID: All, Previously, the archives of this mailing list available here: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/ were only previously available to list members. I have made a change to this setting. This mailing list archives are now *public*. This is how most mailing lists on an open-source or general topic usually are, but I wanted to mention this here in case anyone was under the assumption that emails to this list were only available to list members (which I doubt, but just in case). Also, as a reminder note that replies to this mailing list's emails by default are sent back to the list, not the original poster. Enjoy! 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Eric On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Brandon Rhodes wrote: > These lists of links are resources that get posted after each meetup are > incredible, and I would love to be able to tweet links to them for > everyone else in the Python community - and local people seeing them > might think about joining the meetup. However, our python.org mailing > list is secret, so that no one can see the archives without a password. > > Since we are not a secret organization like a conference organizing > mailing list, or the diversity mailing list, could the following archive > be opened to the public: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/ > > Also: there was a question at the meeting last night about whether > someone was a member of the mailing list, and I just discovered that a > search for "cohpy mailing list" brings up *two* mailing lists, both of > which seem to be active - here is the other one: > > http://www.meetup.com/Central-Ohio-Python-Users-Group/messages/archive/ > > I can understand why someone joining the group would see the Meetup > mailing list, see that it is currently receiving new messages, and think > that joining it has gotten them connected to the group. Whereas they > would then miss great messages like this meeting summary, that are only > on the private hidden secret inaccessible mailing list hosted on > python.org. > > What should we do about the fact that we have two mailing lists that we > expect people to join? > > -- > Brandon Rhodes brandon at rhodesmill.org > http://rhodesmill.org/brandon > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 1 19:57:14 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:57:14 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Guido's Inspiration Message-ID: <20120501135714.2eccea1b.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> by the folks who's work inspired Guido: Monty Python and the Holy Grail http://studio35.com/comingsoon.html Ni! From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 1 20:55:14 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 14:55:14 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Archive is Now Public: Please Obfuscate Email Addresses In-Reply-To: References: <20120501115717.1f3527bf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <8762cfltog.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> Message-ID: <20120501145514.50f2e43a.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:38:55 -0400, Eric Floehr wrote: > 1. Made the archives of the CentralOH Python mailing list at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh public. Cool! Please mangle/obfuscate the email addresses to thwart the the spammers. From eric at intellovations.com Tue May 1 21:14:32 2012 From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:14:32 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Archive is Now Public: Please Obfuscate Email Addresses In-Reply-To: <20120501145514.50f2e43a.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120501115717.1f3527bf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <8762cfltog.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> <20120501145514.50f2e43a.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: Jim, The following is set to Yes: *obscure_addresses* (privacy): Show member addresses so they're not directly recognizable as email addresses? Setting this option causes member email addresses to be transformed when they are presented on list web pages (both in text and as links), so they're not trivially recognizable as email addresses. The intention is to prevent the addresses from being snarfed up by automated web scanners for use by spammers. -Eric On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:55 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:38:55 -0400, Eric Floehr > wrote: > > > 1. Made the archives of the CentralOH Python mailing list at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh public. > > Cool! > > Please mangle/obfuscate the email addresses to thwart the the spammers. > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 1 22:30:52 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:30:52 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Archive is Now Public: Please Obfuscate Email Addresses: Minor Obfuscation Seems Sufficient In-Reply-To: References: <20120501115717.1f3527bf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <8762cfltog.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> <20120501145514.50f2e43a.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120501163052.07e9e392.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 1 May 2012 15:14:32 -0400, Eric Floehr wrote: > The following is set to Yes: > > *obscure_addresses* (privacy): Show member addresses so they're not > directly recognizable as email addresses? > > Setting this option causes member email addresses to be transformed when > they are presented on list web pages (both in text and as links), so > they're not trivially recognizable as email addresses. The intention is to > prevent the addresses from being snarfed up by automated web scanners for > use by spammers. Let's hope that the spammers don't understand 's/ at /@/'. Comparing to the archives of another list I'm on, they have the same minor obfuscation, but I'm not getting much spam from posting to that other list, so it's likely sufficient. Let's hope it stays that way. From patrick.shuff at gmail.com Sun May 6 22:39:32 2012 From: patrick.shuff at gmail.com (Patrick Shuff) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 16:39:32 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Amazon AWS API Infrastructure Message-ID: Hi everyone. Good to meet everybody the other night at the user group meeting. I hope my questions about promoting python in the enterprise didn't come across as "scoping python talent". That was not my intention. And we're not currently hiring :) Okay, now on to my questions: Does anyone have any knowledge of a project that basically replicates Amazon's API Infrastructure i.e. create API Access Keys/Secret Key. I was thinking instead of re-invent the wheel allowing developers to access an API, I could re-use most authentication code from the boto library. Thoughts? Also along the same lines, what are folks using to authenticate server requests using username/passwords? I've looked into OpenID. Is this the right choice? Please note I am not using Django and would prefer this be framework agnostic. Preferably it would be something with client code already available in most languages (javascript, python, etc). It would be nice to just wrap my framework handlers with decorators for all the authentication stuff (changing bits and pieces where necessary). Thanks everyone! Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is called openstack: http://openstack.org/ Is this what you're looking for? -Austin On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Shuff wrote: > Hi everyone. ?Good to meet everybody the other night at the user group > meeting. ?I hope my questions about promoting python in the enterprise > didn't come across as "scoping python talent". ?That was not my intention. > ?And we're not currently hiring :) > > Okay, now on to my questions: > > Does anyone have any knowledge of a project that basically replicates > Amazon's API Infrastructure i.e. create API Access Keys/Secret Key. ?I was > thinking instead of re-invent the wheel allowing developers to access an > API, I could re-use most authentication code from the boto library. > ?Thoughts? > > Also along the same lines, what are folks using to authenticate server > requests using username/passwords? ?I've looked into OpenID. ? Is this the > right choice? ?Please note I am not using Django and would prefer this be > framework agnostic. ?Preferably?it would be something with client code > already available in most languages (javascript, python, etc). > > It would be nice to just wrap my framework handlers with decorators for all > the authentication stuff (changing bits and pieces where necessary). > > Thanks everyone! > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > From patrick.shuff at gmail.com Mon May 7 02:18:35 2012 From: patrick.shuff at gmail.com (Patrick Shuff) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 20:18:35 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Amazon AWS API Infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the response Austin. Actually the only thing I am interested in is the authentication mechanisms that AWS provides with its REST API. Basically a server implementation of the Access Key and Secret Access Key. Patrick On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Austin Godber wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > There is an open source cloud infrastructure project, implemented in > python no less, with an API that I think is identical to amazons. It > is called openstack: > > http://openstack.org/ > > Is this what you're looking for? > > -Austin > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Shuff > wrote: > > Hi everyone. Good to meet everybody the other night at the user group > > meeting. I hope my questions about promoting python in the enterprise > > didn't come across as "scoping python talent". That was not my > intention. > > And we're not currently hiring :) > > > > Okay, now on to my questions: > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge of a project that basically replicates > > Amazon's API Infrastructure i.e. create API Access Keys/Secret Key. I > was > > thinking instead of re-invent the wheel allowing developers to access an > > API, I could re-use most authentication code from the boto library. > > Thoughts? > > > > Also along the same lines, what are folks using to authenticate server > > requests using username/passwords? I've looked into OpenID. Is this > the > > right choice? Please note I am not using Django and would prefer this be > > framework agnostic. Preferably it would be something with client code > > already available in most languages (javascript, python, etc). > > > > It would be nice to just wrap my framework handlers with decorators for > all > > the authentication stuff (changing bits and pieces where necessary). > > > > Thanks everyone! > > Patrick > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentralOH mailing list > > CentralOH at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kris at rkrishardy.com Mon May 7 02:31:43 2012 From: kris at rkrishardy.com (Kris Hardy) Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 18:31:43 -0600 Subject: [CentralOH] Amazon AWS API Infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll also throw in Deltacloud and Aeolus. You might want to see how they're handling things. Not sure if it helps you at all, though. -Kris On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Patrick Shuff wrote: > Thanks for the response Austin. > > Actually the only thing I am interested in is the authentication > mechanisms that AWS provides with its REST API. Basically a server > implementation of the Access Key and Secret Access Key. > > Patrick > > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Austin Godber wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> >> There is an open source cloud infrastructure project, implemented in >> python no less, with an API that I think is identical to amazons. It >> is called openstack: >> >> http://openstack.org/ >> >> Is this what you're looking for? >> >> -Austin >> >> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Shuff >> wrote: >> > Hi everyone. Good to meet everybody the other night at the user group >> > meeting. I hope my questions about promoting python in the enterprise >> > didn't come across as "scoping python talent". That was not my >> intention. >> > And we're not currently hiring :) >> > >> > Okay, now on to my questions: >> > >> > Does anyone have any knowledge of a project that basically replicates >> > Amazon's API Infrastructure i.e. create API Access Keys/Secret Key. I >> was >> > thinking instead of re-invent the wheel allowing developers to access an >> > API, I could re-use most authentication code from the boto library. >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > Also along the same lines, what are folks using to authenticate server >> > requests using username/passwords? I've looked into OpenID. Is this >> the >> > right choice? Please note I am not using Django and would prefer this >> be >> > framework agnostic. 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Grandview Cafe has been a nice after-meeting spot, but I think parking space and size of the place are issues for a full meeting. I am also open to suggestions. Please place your vote here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DGTH99N (you may choose more than one) If your favorite spot isn't listed, lobby your fellow Pythonistas here for a write-in. Location will be the place that gets the most votes, and will be announced here next Monday, May 14, so vote early! Cheers, Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What workarounds do you know of to get tmux to respond to input? From yanovich.1 at osu.edu Tue May 8 06:11:48 2012 From: yanovich.1 at osu.edu (Michael Yanovich) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 00:11:48 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] 2012-04-30: tmux lag In-Reply-To: <20120508000752.472cc79e.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120501115717.1f3527bf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <20120508000752.472cc79e.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <4FA89D04.6000602@osu.edu> In these cases, I've heard someone mention that you should be able to kill the tmux window. Someone else did this for me once, but the window within tmux itself became unresponsive, where even ^C wasn't working. So this might be a bit too extreme. kill-window [-t target-window] (alias: killw) Kill the current window or the window at target-window, removing it from any sessions to which it is linked. On 05/08/2012 12:07 AM, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2012 11:57:17 -0400, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > >> tmux >> lag in responding to chars (e.g., ^C) from clients > > For example, execute the following in screen or tmux, > then try to stop the scrolling with ^S or ^C. > > find / 2>&1 > > Both screen and tmux can have trouble stopping in a timely > manner, but tmux can be so unresponsive as to be unusable. > > When screen is slow to respond, tricks such as switching to a > different window, or resizing the window, or minimizing the > GUI window can help. Those workarounds have not worked with > tmux. > > What workarounds do you know of to get tmux to respond to input? > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh -- Michael Yanovich -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So Winking Lizard it is. Next Monday, May 21, at 6pm. Our June meeting will be June 25 at TechColumbus, and we will have a couple of folks talking. Cheers, Eric On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Eric Floehr wrote: > All, > > As Memorial Day is the last Monday in May, we will be meeting a week early > on Monday, May 21. > > Unfortunately, TechColumbus is booked up that evening, so I was thinking we > could meet at a nice bar and grille to eat, drink, socialize, and talk > Python. > > A few suggestions of places that would be big enough to handle a few rowdy > Pythonistas: Brazenhead on 5th (central), Winking Lizard at Crosswords > (north), or Rusty Bucket in Dublin (northwest). ?Grandview Cafe has been a > nice after-meeting spot, but I think parking space and size of the place are > issues for a full meeting. > > I am also open to suggestions. > > Please place your vote here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DGTH99N (you may > choose more than one) ?If your favorite spot isn't listed, lobby your fellow > Pythonistas here for a write-in. > > Location will be the place that gets the most votes, and will be announced > here next Monday, May 14, so vote early! > > Cheers, > Eric > From eric at intellovations.com Tue May 15 18:57:37 2012 From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:37 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Code to Refactor In-Reply-To: <20120515114151.54dd08a9.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120515114151.54dd08a9.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: The need to return variable lengths pretty much rules out a generator. If s is a string, you could just use a memory file, i.e. StringIO: import cStringIO # Use cStringIO over StringIO for speed stringfile = cStringIO.StringIO(s) next_n = stringfile.read(n) -Eric On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, wrote: > What's a better way of doing the following? > Iterators come to mind, but the need to get a > variable lengths seems to screw that up. > > class dribbler(): > ? ?def __init__(self, s): > ? ? ? ?self.s = s > ? ? ? ?self.i = 0 > > ? ?def get_next_n(self, n): > ? ? ? ?s = self.s[self.i:self.i + n] > ? ? ? ?self.i += n > ? ? ? ?return s > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh From jshaffstall at gmail.com Tue May 15 19:31:35 2012 From: jshaffstall at gmail.com (Jay Shaffstall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:31:35 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques? Message-ID: Hi all, We're experimenting with offering our Computer Science I class in Python rather than Java next year at Muskingum University. I'm super excited, because I don't get enough opportunity to play in Python and this gives me a great excuse. I also think students will be able to get to do more fun stuff than we could in Java. I'd like to get suggestions from people who know Python better than I do about the most important Pythonic techniques to learn. Keep in mind I only have one semester, so there will be a limit to what I can do. But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you make sure you taught them above all else? Thanks in advance, Jay From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 15 19:50:18 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:50:18 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques?: Clarity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120515135018.40027120.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:31:35 -0400, Jay Shaffstall wrote: > But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you > make sure you taught them above all else? Clarity. I don't know how much that can be taught. I think it has to be learned by suffering through code that lacks it. From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue May 15 19:51:54 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:51:54 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Code to Refactor: cStringIO.read() In-Reply-To: References: <20120515114151.54dd08a9.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120515135154.40de37db.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:37 -0400, Eric Floehr wrote: > .read(n) Cool! Thanks! From jshaffstall at gmail.com Tue May 15 19:53:05 2012 From: jshaffstall at gmail.com (Jay Shaffstall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:53:05 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques?: Clarity In-Reply-To: <20120515135018.40027120.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120515135018.40027120.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:31:35 -0400, Jay Shaffstall wrote: > >> But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you >> make sure you taught them above all else? > > Clarity. > > I don't know how much that can be taught. > I think it has to be learned by suffering through code that lacks it. *laugh* Yes, most of the important software development traits have to be learned by either making the mistakes yourself or suffering through someone else's mistakes. I'm honest with students about that. But language specific techniques, at least, we can teach. Jay From brian.costlow at gmail.com Tue May 15 19:59:18 2012 From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:59:18 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jay, As someone with a physics background who self-taught himself to program, SICP was pretty invaluable. While you want the students to write Pythonically, that is use the preferred language idioms, a grasp of CS basics is, I think, more important to take away from a CS 1 course. MIT replaced their old SICP/Scheme-based CS Intro course with a similar Python based one, and that course is mostly replicated as part of MIT's OCW offering. You might want to take a look there as inspiration. http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/ On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jay Shaffstall wrote: > Hi all, > > We're experimenting with offering our Computer Science I class in > Python rather than Java next year at Muskingum University. I'm super > excited, because I don't get enough opportunity to play in Python and > this gives me a great excuse. I also think students will be able to > get to do more fun stuff than we could in Java. > > I'd like to get suggestions from people who know Python better than I > do about the most important Pythonic techniques to learn. Keep in > mind I only have one semester, so there will be a limit to what I can > do. But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you > make sure you taught them above all else? > > Thanks in advance, > Jay > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at intellovations.com Tue May 15 20:29:20 2012 From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:29:20 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jay, > We're experimenting with offering our Computer Science I class in > Python rather than Java next year at Muskingum University. > I'd like to get suggestions from people who know Python better than I > do about the most important Pythonic techniques to learn. > But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you > make sure you taught them above all else? This is an intro to computer science class, so I assume these are people fairly new to computer science. List comprehensions and extended slicing have to be my favorite Pythonic techniques (others may say generators or metaclasses), but I don't think that's important, and you can be a successful Python programmer without knowing anything about that. The key to what makes Python a *great* language is you can get stuff done quickly, with little boilerplate, and the constructs are readable and make sense compared to many languages. You can read and understand the code you wrote six months ago. With that said, you've had a successful CS 101 class if students can get stuff done that they need to do quickly and easily. Python enables that, but how? Here are what I think are the top two things to teach above all else: 1. Interactivity. Not a day goes by that I don't fire up the Python interactive shell to do a quick calculation, parse, or some other thing. Interactivity allows you to "play around" with code and data. When I'm writing a new web scraper, I'll load up the html page via lxml in the shell (python is built in obviously, but ipython has some nice features like tab-completion, easy help, etc.), and play around with different searches, xpaths, etc. to find out how best to pull out what I need. 2. Libraries. Sure, at some point you want to teach the fundamentals (i.e. sorting algorithms and such) but that can wait along with machine language, Von Neumann architectures, turing completeness, big O, etc. What should really be taught in CS 101 is how to translate from what you need done into working code. For most things, there is already going to be a library out there does most or all of what they need. Teach them how to find those libraries (google searching, examples, etc.) and how to install them (pip, etc.). Learning how to navigate through libraries to find what you need rather than building it yourself is more fundamental than knowing what big O means. Give them a taste for the amazing amount of stuff that's out there, like PIL, or pygame, or lxml, or requests, that will show them that whatever cool, fun, interesting, helpful idea they have, they'll be able to see it through. In the end it isn't so much about the language, as it is about getting things done. I grew up on the VIC-20 and C64 BASIC, which is interactive, and while it didn't have much in the way of libraries, it was accessible the way libraries make things today. I couldn't parse xml on my VIC-20, but I could change the color of a pixel on the screen very easily. That's what is missing today with computers: they are powerful beasts that will bend to your bidding, but they aren't interactive or accessible. Instead, they are just Facebook terminals. That's what Python brings to the table. It helps you solve problems. And that's really, fundamentally, what CS is all about. -Eric From davelist at mac.com Tue May 15 20:36:30 2012 From: davelist at mac.com (davelist at mac.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:36:30 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Most important Python techniques? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45741DBF-4F9A-4BAF-AAAF-0575D321D49A@mac.com> Jay, We've been using Python in CS1 for about 10 years at Capital. We then use a mixture of Python and C++ in the rest of the curriculum so students also get a better understanding of some of the lower-level details that Python hides such as memory management and an understanding of pointers. The combination has worked very well for us and our students. We can do more interesting assignments in CS1. The students can focus more on problem solving/algorithms and less on syntax issues. Companies that hire our students tell us they are happy with the solid foundation our students have and that they are quickly able to learn whatever language or concepts they need to on the job. We use John Zelle's book in CS1 and then John and I co-wrote a CS2 book that starts with Python and then transitions to C++ about half way through the semester. Now the students can focus We then cover the rest of the book in a third course. The only downside I would say is because we spend more time learning a new language, students don't develop design skills as early as I would like. We do a project-based software engineering course so we spend more time on design there. Here's the two books we use: http://mcsp.wartburg.edu/zelle/python/ https://fbeedle.com/content/data-structures-and-algorithms-using-python-and-c There's a Python CS1 book by a MSU professor that also looks good: http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse231/PracticeOfComputingUsingPython/index.php David M. Reed Professor of Computer Science Capital University On May 15, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Brian Costlow wrote: > Jay, > > As someone with a physics background who self-taught himself to program, SICP was pretty invaluable. > > While you want the students to write Pythonically, that is use the preferred language idioms, a grasp of CS basics is, I think, more important to take away from a CS 1 course. > > MIT replaced their old SICP/Scheme-based CS Intro course with a similar Python based one, and that course is mostly replicated as part of MIT's OCW offering. > > You might want to take a look there as inspiration. > > http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/ > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jay Shaffstall wrote: > Hi all, > > We're experimenting with offering our Computer Science I class in > Python rather than Java next year at Muskingum University. I'm super > excited, because I don't get enough opportunity to play in Python and > this gives me a great excuse. I also think students will be able to > get to do more fun stuff than we could in Java. > > I'd like to get suggestions from people who know Python better than I > do about the most important Pythonic techniques to learn. Keep in > mind I only have one semester, so there will be a limit to what I can > do. But if you were teaching someone new to Python, what would you > make sure you taught them above all else? > > Thanks in advance, > Jay From mark at microenh.com Wed May 16 01:51:52 2012 From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:51:52 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Tyler Shipe sent you a message: Python Help In-Reply-To: <651668216.1337124423015.JavaMail.nobody@app20.meetup.com> References: <651668216.1337124423015.JavaMail.nobody@app20.meetup.com> Message-ID: <740F7F96-5E05-49BE-9D8D-5B2B715890CC@microenh.com> Tyler, Too bad you can't make the DoJoe's but getting people up to speed is one of the things we do. Feel free to ask me Python questions. I've been working with Python for several years and like it. Right now, I'm working on a major project in PHP so I'm not spending as much time with Python as I used to. I'l try and answer your questions, but are you aware of the Central Ohio Python group's email list at CentralOh at python.org? Questions asked there will be seen by a number of Pythonistas. Feel free to use it to help with your learning. Mark On May 15, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Meetup wrote: > > > > Meetup Message from: Tyler Shipe, Member of The Central Ohio Python Users Group > Python Help > > Hi Mark > I saw your profile on MeetUp for the Python DoJoe event. I am currently learning Python and am spending most of my free time on this endeavor. I'm in Cincinnati so can't make the MeetUp but would love to chat/ask questions if you're available through email or another channel. > > Thanks! > Tyler Shipe is also a member of: > IndyDjango > 47 Djangonauts ? Indianapolis, IN > IndyPy Meetup > 185 Pythoneers ? Indianapolis, IN > > CincyPy Meetup > 50 Members ? Cincinnati, OH > To report abuse or block this person, please click here. > Add info at meetup.com to your address book to receive all Meetup emails > To manage your email settings, click here > Meetup, PO Box 4668 #37895 New York, New York 10163-4668 > Meetup HQ in NYC is hiring! http://www.meetup.com/jobs/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Sat May 19 00:07:31 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:07:31 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Guido's Inspiration In-Reply-To: <20120501135714.2eccea1b.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120501135714.2eccea1b.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120518180731.39ce828f.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:57:14 -0400, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > by the folks who's work inspired Guido: > > Monty Python and the Holy Grail > http://studio35.com/comingsoon.html The future is nigh. Sunday: http://studio35.com/ From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Sat May 19 00:10:33 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:10:33 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Guido's Inspiration In-Reply-To: <20120518180731.39ce828f.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120501135714.2eccea1b.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <20120518180731.39ce828f.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120518181033.5731321a.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:07:31 -0400, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > The future is nigh. Sunday: http://studio35.com/ Oops, well not so nigh, more like more than half a fortnight. From eric at intellovations.com Tue May 22 14:53:00 2012 From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:53:00 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Links from last night Message-ID: Last night's Central Ohio Python meeting was a lot of fun! I wanted to share a few links that were mentioned in conversations I was in last night for the benefit of the whole group. If you have other links and tidbits to share, please reply! First, Ramond Chandler is working on a cool new startup called Grammar Tree that will provide tool, activities, and assessments for teachers and students in language arts. He is planning on building the system using Django and Python: http://www.grammartree.org Raymond is also looking for some part-time Django consulting work to help in the transition between corporate/state job and startup, so if you know of anyone that needs Django or Python development, send him a note! While not strictly Python related, there was a discussion about teaching from first principles, and Pete Carswell had some thoughts on teaching computer graphics from first principles. I mentioned that there was a recent book/workbook on teaching computer CPU/machine language/assembly from first principles that was very well reviewed (and is on my wish list). The book is called "The Elements of Computing Systems: Building a Modern Computer From First Principles". Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/The-Elements-Computing-Systems-Principles/dp/0262640686 While the book came out in 2005, it recently has gained some attention. Here is the book author's page: http://www1.idc.ac.il/tecs/ The interesting approach this book takes is that it's software-based. You create a CPU, but you create it by simulation. One person even decided to implement the CPU in Minecraft! http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/virtual-computers/ And finally, here is the author himself talking about the approach and the book... From NAND to Tetris in 12 steps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtXvUoPx4Qs We also talked about Ray Tracing and how Nvidia recently demo'ed real-time ray tracing in their latest chip set. Here is the video: http://youtu.be/h5mRRElXy-w?hd=1 Cheers, Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amonroe at columbus.rr.com Wed May 23 03:17:31 2012 From: amonroe at columbus.rr.com (R. Alan Monroe) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 21:17:31 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Links from last night In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <721396792.20120522211731@columbus.rr.com> > The interesting approach this book takes is that it's > software-based. ?You create a CPU, but you create it by simulation. Slick. Started going through this course. Alan From david at wwcols.com Wed May 23 16:45:54 2012 From: david at wwcols.com (david chew) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:45:54 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] CentralOH Digest, Vol 61, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <290EEC4B-D0E2-4A7D-ACF3-6F446FC5EAFA@wwcols.com> Richard chandler contact info? On May 23, 2012, at 6:00 AM, centraloh-request at python.org wrote: > Send CentralOH mailing list submissions to > centraloh at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > centraloh-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > centraloh-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CentralOH digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Links from last night (Eric Floehr) > 2. Re: Links from last night (R. Alan Monroe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:53:00 -0400 > From: Eric Floehr > To: Central Ohio Python Users Group > Subject: [CentralOH] Links from last night > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Last night's Central Ohio Python meeting was a lot of fun! > > I wanted to share a few links that were mentioned in conversations I was in > last night for the benefit of the whole group. If you have other links and > tidbits to share, please reply! > > First, Ramond Chandler is working on a cool new startup called Grammar Tree > that will provide tool, activities, and assessments for teachers and > students in language arts. He is planning on building the system using > Django and Python: http://www.grammartree.org > > Raymond is also looking for some part-time Django consulting work to help > in the transition between corporate/state job and startup, so if you know > of anyone that needs Django or Python development, send him a note! > > > While not strictly Python related, there was a discussion about teaching > from first principles, and Pete Carswell had some thoughts on teaching > computer graphics from first principles. I mentioned that there was a > recent book/workbook on teaching computer CPU/machine language/assembly > from first principles that was very well reviewed (and is on my wish list). > The book is called "The Elements of Computing Systems: Building a Modern > Computer From First Principles". Here is the link: > http://www.amazon.com/The-Elements-Computing-Systems-Principles/dp/0262640686 > > While the book came out in 2005, it recently has gained some attention. > Here is the book author's page: http://www1.idc.ac.il/tecs/ > > The interesting approach this book takes is that it's software-based. You > create a CPU, but you create it by simulation. One person even decided to > implement the CPU in Minecraft! > http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/virtual-computers/ > > And finally, here is the author himself talking about the approach and the > book... From NAND to Tetris in 12 steps: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtXvUoPx4Qs > > > > We also talked about Ray Tracing and how Nvidia recently demo'ed real-time > ray tracing in their latest chip set. 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Started going through this course. > > Alan > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > > End of CentralOH Digest, Vol 61, Issue 8 > **************************************** > From brian.costlow at gmail.com Fri May 25 16:41:46 2012 From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:41:46 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Last Call! PyOhio 2012 Call for Proposals. Message-ID: PyOhio, the fifth annual Python programming conference for Ohio and the surrounding region, is accepting proposals for one more week! The deadline for a submission is June 1st. If you've ever thought about giving a talk, but haven't made the leap yet, PyOhio is a very favorable environment for first time speakers. About PyOhio PyOhio is one of the largest Python conferences in the midwest, and the largest entirely free Python conference anywhere. PyOhio 2012 will take place Saturday-Sunday, July 28-29, 2012 at the Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio. A variety of activities are planned, including tutorials, scheduled talks, Lightning Talks, Open Spaces and Sprints. Talk Proposals PyOhio invites all interested people to submit proposals for scheduled talks, tutorials, and panels. All topics of interest to Python programmers will be considered. PyOhio is a great venue to get the word out about your favorite Python library and how you use it, talk about how Python is used in your company, or practice your speaking in front of a welcoming audience. Standard presentation slots will be 40 minutes plus a 10 minute question-and-answer period. Tutorials may run longer, but should be structured to be broken across 50 minute slots with a 10 minute break between. PyOhio is especially interested in hosting a Beginner?s Track for those new to Python or new to programming in general. If your proposal would be suitable for inclusion in a Beginner?s Track, please indicate so. Organizers will work with speakers and instructors in the Beginner?s Track to help them coordinate their talks/tutorials into a smooth, coherent learning curve for new Python users. PyOhio is also especially interested in talks or panel discussions about using Python as a core component of your business, or success with using Python in a traditional corporate IT environment. How To Submit a Proposal To ensure that you provide all necessary information, please use the submission form at the PyOhio web site. If organizing a panel, please confirm all panelists? intention to participate before submitting your proposal. http://pyohio.org/speaker/ The deadline for submitting a proposal is Friday, June 1st. Accepted speakers will be notified by June 15th. You can read more about the conference at http://pyohio.org. If you have questions about proposals, please email cfp at pyohio.org. You can also contact the PyOhio organizers at pyohio-organizers at python.org. Recording Rights Release PyOhio may record presentations for later release over the web. Presenters will need to sign a release of recording rights to PyOhio. See http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyOhio/RecordingRelease Please feel free to forward this mailing to any and all interested parties. Thanks! The 2012 PyOhio Organizing Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you going? best, Fandi From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Mon May 28 00:12:07 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 18:12:07 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Beer and Python In-Reply-To: References: <20120526220355.3352cdbf.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120527181207.28eba912.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Hi Fandi, On Sun, 27 May 2012 11:20:42 -0400, Fandi Peng wrote: > Sounds interesting! Are you going? Nope, but you should have. Jim From David at wwcols.com Tue May 29 16:18:38 2012 From: David at wwcols.com (David Chew) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:18:38 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Way off topic, but any Access programmers available? Message-ID: <008601cd3da5$f170eba0$d452c2e0$@com> Anyone work with Access & VBA? Realize not the place for that but you never know. I've got a job I'd like to hire out. Email me directly if interested. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jay.Johnson at aecom.com Thu May 31 21:27:16 2012 From: Jay.Johnson at aecom.com (Johnson, Jay) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:27:16 +0000 Subject: [CentralOH] Way off topic, but any Access programmers available? In-Reply-To: <008601cd3da5$f170eba0$d452c2e0$@com> References: <008601cd3da5$f170eba0$d452c2e0$@com> Message-ID: <803A920856B5A947AB0F0FCC2A935A9E1575D08F@USDEN3EXMB003.na.aecomnet.com> David, GIS programmers usually are pretty good at those two items. I'm not sure who I would suggest in Columbus, but I know some good ones in Kentucky. Jay Greg, Any thoughts? Jay ________________________________ From: centraloh-bounces+jay.johnson=aecom.com at python.org [centraloh-bounces+jay.johnson=aecom.com at python.org] on behalf of David Chew [David at wwcols.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:18 AM To: centraloh at python.org Subject: [CentralOH] Way off topic, but any Access programmers available? Anyone work with Access & VBA? Realize not the place for that but you never know? I?ve got a job I?d like to hire out. Email me directly if interested. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Thu May 31 22:30:14 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:30:14 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] GIS Programmers In-Reply-To: <803A920856B5A947AB0F0FCC2A935A9E1575D08F@USDEN3EXMB003.na.aecomnet.com> References: <008601cd3da5$f170eba0$d452c2e0$@com> <803A920856B5A947AB0F0FCC2A935A9E1575D08F@USDEN3EXMB003.na.aecomnet.com> Message-ID: <20120531163014.098e33a6.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:27:16 +0000, "Johnson, Jay" wrote: > GIS programmers ... https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GIS What did you mean by GIS?