From mark at microenh.com Thu Mar 6 19:22:38 2008 From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:22:38 -0500 Subject: [CentralOH] Python 2.5.1 / Ubuntu 7.10 problem with .zip file Message-ID: <1204827758.29003.0.camel@P1900> I am working on an application that uses .zip files as part of an automatic update process. Since Python 2.3, Python has been able to read files from a .zip file. I've done most of the development with Python 2.4.3 under Ubuntu 6.06. Today, I tried running the application under Python 2.5.1 with Ubuntu 7.10. It is unable to read either of the .zip files that the program uses for updates. However, many of the built in features of python are located in Python25.zip and it apparently has no problem reading that, or I would think I would have a lot more problems. I installed Python 2.4 on the Ubuntu 7.10 machine and it is able to read the .zip files. Other than the update process, the program runs fine under either Python 2.4 or 2.5. Interestingly, the Python script that I use to create the .zip file runs fine under 2.5.1 and the program running under Python 2.4 can read the .zip file it creates fine. From wam at cisco.com Thu Mar 6 22:07:55 2008 From: wam at cisco.com (William McVey) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:07:55 +0000 Subject: [CentralOH] Python 2.5.1 / Ubuntu 7.10 problem with .zip file In-Reply-To: <1204827758.29003.0.camel@P1900> References: <1204827758.29003.0.camel@P1900> Message-ID: <1204837675.7953.29.camel@tardis.cisco.com> On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 13:22 -0500, Mark Erbaugh wrote: > I am working on an application that uses .zip files as part of an > automatic update process. Since Python 2.3, Python has been able > to read files from a .zip file. I've done most of the development with > Python 2.4.3 under Ubuntu 6.06. Today, I tried running the application > under Python 2.5.1 with Ubuntu 7.10. It is unable to read either of > the .zip files that the program uses for updates. Can you test your .zip file with: python -m zipfile -t YOUR_FILENAME.zip and list it with: python -m zipfile -l YOUR_FILENAME.zip If so, the problem is likely to not be in python's zipfile library or in your zip file but in your application code. If either of the zipfile invocations above fails, then you're likely to be dealing with a zip file that is possibly corrupt or utilizes a slightly different/incompatible version of the zip file specification. In which case, does winzip or the unix unzip command successfully extract the file? Are you able to create the zip with contents that can be shared to allow other people to debug it or the std lib? -- William From dstautberg at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 14:59:31 2008 From: dstautberg at gmail.com (Dean Stautberg) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:59:31 -0500 Subject: [CentralOH] Python 2.5.1 / Ubuntu 7.10 problem with .zip file Message-ID: > > On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 13:22 -0500, Mark Erbaugh wrote: > > I am working on an application that uses .zip files as part of an > > automatic update process. Since Python 2.3, Python has been able > > to read files from a .zip file. I've done most of the development with > > Python 2.4.3 under Ubuntu 6.06. Today, I tried running the application > > under Python 2.5.1 with Ubuntu 7.10. It is unable to read either of > > the .zip files that the program uses for updates. > > Can you test your .zip file with: > python -m zipfile -t YOUR_FILENAME.zip > and list it with: > python -m zipfile -l YOUR_FILENAME.zip > > If so, the problem is likely to not be in python's zipfile library or in > your zip file but in your application code. If either of the zipfile > invocations above fails, then you're likely to be dealing with a zip > file that is possibly corrupt or utilizes a slightly > different/incompatible version of the zip file specification. In which > case, does winzip or the unix unzip command successfully extract the > file? Are you able to create the zip with contents that can be shared to > allow other people to debug it or the std lib? > > -- William > I throw in a suggestion since this has bitten me before: if perchance you are using python code to copy the zip file, make sure you use the binary option. Reading or writing a zip file as text can cause it to get corrupted. -Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/attachments/20080307/444a2db9/attachment.htm From mark at microenh.com Sun Mar 9 19:31:20 2008 From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:31:20 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] cxFreeze Message-ID: <1205087480.23433.12.camel@P1900> I'm using cxFreeze 3.0.3 to create frozen executables of a Python application I am developing. I've created frozen executables for both Linux and Windows. I have questions about both: Windows: Is there a way to use a custom icon rather than the generic Windows program icon? Linux: It looks like cxFreeze is missing a couple of libraries, specifically: libpython2.4.so.1.0 and libpq.so.4 (psycopg2 / PostgreSQL) I developed and froze the Linux version of the application on a workstation running Ubuntu Dapper and Python2.4, but I tried to run on machine with Gutsy and Python2.5. I deliberately did not install Python2.4 because I would like my application to run on any Linux box. To get it working on the Gutsty workstation, I copied the missing files from my Dapper workstation (/usr/lib) into the same directory as the frozen executable. I then had to run ldconfig and add that directory to the cache. Is there another way to have those files recognized. I'd really like to be able to just copy and unzip an archive file to a new Linux box - which is what I can do with the Windows version. Thanks, Mark From mark at microenh.com Mon Mar 10 14:10:58 2008 From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:10:58 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Idle / Gnome Message-ID: <1205154658.9786.9.camel@P1900> I'm not sure if this is a Python / Idle or a Gnome issue. I'm using Idle under Ubuntu Dapper with Gnome 2.14.3. I will often have several files open in Idle. Each opens in it's own window. Each window has an icon in the bottom panel on the screen. I can use those icons to select among the various windows, particularly when the window is covered by another window. It used to be that each window had its own icon, but now sometimes the icons combine into a single 'Top Level' icon. This only happened after I started playing with Gnome desktop themes, but I can't seem to find a way to turn it off. There seems to be no logic (that I have discovered) to when the icons combine. For example, yesterday, I had 10 or so windows open, each with it's own icon, going all the way across the panel. This morning, I have just 4 windows open and they are combined. Mark From wam at cisco.com Tue Mar 11 15:41:51 2008 From: wam at cisco.com (William McVey) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:41:51 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Python 2.5.1 / Ubuntu 7.10 problem with .zip file In-Reply-To: <1204827758.29003.0.camel@P1900> References: <1204827758.29003.0.camel@P1900> Message-ID: <1205246511.23526.35.camel@tardis.cisco.com> On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 13:22 -0500, Mark Erbaugh wrote: > I've done most of the development with > Python > 2.4.3 under Ubuntu 6.06. Today, I tried running the application > under > Python 2.5.1 with Ubuntu 7.10. It is unable to read either of > the .zip > files that the program uses for updates. Since this thread started on a public list, I think it's only fitting that the resolution is shared for others. Mark and I figured out in a side conversation that his problem was that his zip file had python bytecode compiled for python 2.4. When he tried running his code under python 2.5, it was able to open the zip just fine, it just wasn't able to import binary modules compiled for the older interpreter. I believe he is going to be doing version-specific zip files, as well as researching eggs as a more standard way of shipping his updates. -- William From wam at cisco.com Tue Mar 11 16:51:47 2008 From: wam at cisco.com (William McVey) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:51:47 +0000 Subject: [CentralOH] cxFreeze In-Reply-To: <1205087480.23433.12.camel@P1900> References: <1205087480.23433.12.camel@P1900> Message-ID: <1205250707.23526.72.camel@tardis.cisco.com> On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 14:31 -0400, Mark Erbaugh wrote: > I'm using cxFreeze 3.0.3 to create frozen executables of a Python > application I am developing. I've created frozen executables for both > Linux and Windows. I have questions about both: > > Windows: Is there a way to use a custom icon rather than the generic > Windows program icon? Personally, whenever I've needed to have a compiled executable under Windows, I've used either py2exe (http://www.py2exe.org/) or PyInstaller (http://pyinstaller.python-hosting.com/), both work great and support customizable icons being configured in the settings.py file or on the commandline. I'm slightly more partial to py2exe myself, but if you need Linux support, you should look into PyInstaller. cxFreeze certainly isn't a *bad* option, it's just lacking in features. For example, with your case, it doesn't appear as if cx_Freeze has the selectable icon feature though. There are plenty of resource editors available under windows that would allow you to modify the content of your resulting .exe to replace the icon (google for 'change windows exe icon') after the fact though. > Linux: It looks like cxFreeze is missing a couple of libraries, > specifically: > > libpython2.4.so.1.0 and libpq.so.4 (psycopg2 / PostgreSQL) Adding --shared-lib-name /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 to your FreezePython invocation should help take care of the first problem. Handling the second issue is harder. cxFreeze doesn't try to resolve all system dependencies in it's bundle. You'll notice that it doesn't stick in any of the other shared libraries your executables depend upon either (e.g. libpthread.so). My best advice would be to manually copy over the libpq.so.4 shared library, and in your main routine modify your process'es LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment to include your install directory *prior to importing psycopg2*. I've not tested this, but it *might* work. > I developed and froze the Linux version of the application on a > workstation running Ubuntu Dapper and Python2.4, but I tried to run on > machine with Gutsy and Python2.5. I deliberately did not install > Python2.4 because I would like my application to run on any Linux box. Well, cxFreeze is generally pretty good about resolving python dependencies. Other system dependencies like a postgress runtime are kind of hit or miss. > To get it working on the Gutsty workstation, I copied the missing files > from my Dapper workstation (/usr/lib) into the same directory as the > frozen executable. I then had to run ldconfig and add that directory to > the cache. Is there another way to have those files recognized. I'd > really like to be able to just copy and unzip an archive file to a new > Linux box - which is what I can do with the Windows version. You shouldn't have to run ldconfig on your install host. Unless you're running your executable setuid, you should be able to manipulate your environment variables to define LD_LIBRARY_PATH to be a colon seperated list of directories to look for (in addition to the system directories) shared libraries. For a full list of environment variables honored by the shared library machinery, read the manpage for 'ld.so' -- William From wam at cisco.com Tue Mar 11 16:59:01 2008 From: wam at cisco.com (William McVey) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:59:01 +0000 Subject: [CentralOH] Idle / Gnome In-Reply-To: <1205154658.9786.9.camel@P1900> References: <1205154658.9786.9.camel@P1900> Message-ID: <1205251141.23526.77.camel@tardis.cisco.com> On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 09:10 -0400, Mark Erbaugh wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a Python / Idle or a Gnome issue. Sounds like a gnome panel configuration issue. Go to your panel, and right click on the Window List applet. Make sure you're right clicking on the applet, and not the panel itself (you should see 'Preferences', 'Help', and 'About' menus, not 'Add to Panel', 'Properties', or 'Delete this Panel'). Select the 'Preferences' menu. In there, you have options for Window Grouping. It sounds like you currently have 'Group windows when space is limited'. Select 'Never group windows' and see if that doesn't fix your problem. -- William From catherine.devlin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 15:57:04 2008 From: catherine.devlin at gmail.com (Catherine Devlin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:57:04 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio In-Reply-To: References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Pythonistas! Ohio had a good, strong representation at PyCon this year. One thing we agreed on is that The Time Has Come for PyOhio (or perhaps OhPyO, let's figure that out). Imagine a daylong miniconference bringing people from across the state and beyond. Let's do it! Pardon me for splicing you into our conversation like this, but here are some of the thoughts we've been kicking around so far. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM, David Stanek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Catherine Devlin < > catherine.devlin at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Suggestions I want to throw out for discussion - > > > > Name: PyOhio? I like that. Somebody (Kartic?) suggested OhPyO. As > > soon as we've got the name we should carve out space on wiki.python.organd ask about getting our own serious web space where we can run an instance > > of the PyCon software; I think the PSF will give us that. > > > I can host it if we don't have anywhere else. Once we get a name I can > register it and have a wiki up there in just a few minutes. > > Where: Columbus? It's much more likely to bring people from Cincinnati, > > Athens, Dayton, etc. than Cleveland is. OTOH if Cleveland people can find a > > good location first, maybe that'll be the decider. I'm planning to ping OSU > > for space. > > > Yep I agree. What do you think the cost would be? > I'm hoping to do this on a no-cost basis, with donated space and bring-your-own-brownbag lunch. Of course, if some lovely sponsor wants to spring for lunch, I won't complain. So, who's interested in the glory and honor of hosting the very first PyCon, in exchange for, um, glory and honor? Pete, would the Ohio Supercomputing Center be interested in hosting us? How about our people out at OSU? I can ping the OSU Open Source club, too. Maybe even the public library. Other thoughts? When: Midsummer? That gives us a good distance from PyCon (March), > > Penguicon (April), Ohio LinuxFest (September), and CodeMash (January). It > > also gives us the best chance of securing space at a university, and I think > > we can whip it together by then. Only problem is some peoples' vacations > > may interfere. > > > That sounds good, but my be short notice. If we don't think we can pull > it together by then we can have it as an extension to LinuxFest (suggested > by a NOOSS guy). > That's certainly a possibility, although will OLF need to reserve convention center space for extra time to accomodate us? Will that cost them, will they want $ from us for that? Anybody here involved in OLF organization? What do people think of freestanding vs. attached to OLF? > How many people should we plan for? 50? 100? > > > I think 100. Once we get a website up and running we can send emails to > other Ohio-based groups and the the python-list. > > > > BarCamp: I think we should have some conventional talks scheduled in > > advance, too, b/c > > 1. Many people might not come to something that seems experimental or > > unfamiliar to them > > 2. Future PyCon & CodeMash speakers can get practice > > 3. Specific topics on schedule could lure attendees. > > 4. Experts might travel further to join us if they have a formal > > speaking slot > > > > However, if we can combine those with a BarCamp, I think that'd be > > fantastic. Maybe a few traditional talks for the morning, followed by > > BarCamp through the afternoon and into the night? > > > I think that can work rather well. > > > > We should move this conversation to clepy at googlegroups.com and > > centralOH at python.org. In fact, we'll want a > > pyohio-organizers at python.org and pyohio at python.org (for attendees) > > eventually, too. > > > Good point. Who do we talk to got those email addresses? > I'll do that, as soon as we've got a name - I got centralOH at python.org that way. Thanks, everyone! -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyCon 2008 * Chicago * March 13-20 * us.pycon.org *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/attachments/20080319/1ad68d6a/attachment.htm From bmintern at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 16:20:02 2008 From: bmintern at gmail.com (Brandon Mintern) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:20:02 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio In-Reply-To: <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c0fccce0803190820m4cda39ddtda5f1c7332c38c88@mail.gmail.com> I really doubt that significant space will be found at OSU. I'm a grad student there, and the CS department is approximately 2 buildings, and I believe there is exactly one class which actually uses Python, and it's not a major course. With all the construction that is going on right now, some of the best meeting places -- the main library and the student union -- are shut down for at least another year. The Open Source Club meets in a small room that holds about 40-50 (cramped) people. The CS graduate poster sessions are actually held in the new Architecture building, where there are some nice open spaces. I hope I'm not sounding too negative; I just can't think of anywhere that even a small conference could be held in the CS area of OSU's campus. Just a heads up. Brandon 2008/3/19 Catherine Devlin : > Hello, Pythonistas! > > Ohio had a good, strong representation at PyCon this year. One thing we > agreed on is that The Time Has Come for PyOhio (or perhaps OhPyO, let's > figure that out). Imagine a daylong miniconference bringing people from > across the state and beyond. Let's do it! > > Pardon me for splicing you into our conversation like this, but here are > some of the thoughts we've been kicking around so far. > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM, David Stanek wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Catherine Devlin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Suggestions I want to throw out for discussion - > > > > > > Name: PyOhio? I like that. Somebody (Kartic?) suggested OhPyO. As > soon as we've got the name we should carve out space on wiki.python.org and > ask about getting our own serious web space where we can run an instance of > the PyCon software; I think the PSF will give us that. > > > > > > I can host it if we don't have anywhere else. Once we get a name I can > register it and have a wiki up there in just a few minutes. > > > > > > > > > Where: Columbus? It's much more likely to bring people from Cincinnati, > Athens, Dayton, etc. than Cleveland is. OTOH if Cleveland people can find a > good location first, maybe that'll be the decider. I'm planning to ping OSU > for space. > > > > > > Yep I agree. What do you think the cost would be? > > I'm hoping to do this on a no-cost basis, with donated space and > bring-your-own-brownbag lunch. Of course, if some lovely sponsor wants to > spring for lunch, I won't complain. > > So, who's interested in the glory and honor of hosting the very first PyCon, > in exchange for, um, glory and honor? Pete, would the Ohio Supercomputing > Center be interested in hosting us? How about our people out at OSU? I can > ping the OSU Open Source club, too. Maybe even the public library. Other > thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > When: Midsummer? That gives us a good distance from PyCon (March), > Penguicon (April), Ohio LinuxFest (September), and CodeMash (January). It > also gives us the best chance of securing space at a university, and I think > we can whip it together by then. Only problem is some peoples' vacations > may interfere. > > > > > > That sounds good, but my be short notice. If we don't think we can pull > it together by then we can have it as an extension to LinuxFest (suggested > by a NOOSS guy). > > > > That's certainly a possibility, although will OLF need to reserve > convention center space for extra time to accomodate us? Will that cost > them, will they want $ from us for that? Anybody here involved in OLF > organization? > > What do people think of freestanding vs. attached to OLF? > > > > > > > > > > How many people should we plan for? 50? 100? > > > > > > I think 100. Once we get a website up and running we can send emails to > other Ohio-based groups and the the python-list. > > > > > > > > > BarCamp: I think we should have some conventional talks scheduled in > advance, too, b/c > > > 1. Many people might not come to something that seems experimental or > unfamiliar to them > > > 2. Future PyCon & CodeMash speakers can get practice > > > 3. Specific topics on schedule could lure attendees. > > > 4. Experts might travel further to join us if they have a formal > speaking slot > > > > > > However, if we can combine those with a BarCamp, I think that'd be > fantastic. Maybe a few traditional talks for the morning, followed by > BarCamp through the afternoon and into the night? > > > > > > I think that can work rather well. > > > > > > > > > We should move this conversation to clepy at googlegroups.com and > centralOH at python.org. In fact, we'll want a pyohio-organizers at python.org > and pyohio at python.org (for attendees) eventually, too. > > > > > > Good point. Who do we talk to got those email addresses? > > > > > > > > > > I'll do that, as soon as we've got a name - I got centralOH at python.org that > way. > Thanks, everyone! > > -- > - Catherine > http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ > *** PyCon 2008 * Chicago * March 13-20 * us.pycon.org *** > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > From david.noyes at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 16:25:36 2008 From: david.noyes at gmail.com (dave) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:25:36 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] [clepy] PyOhio In-Reply-To: <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <136ae47d0803190825n54b4a179r899ae7ddf56829f7@mail.gmail.com> I'm liking how this one is shakin' out. This could be rather cool. Columbus is definitely doable. Not too far of a drive. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Catherine Devlin < catherine.devlin at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, Pythonistas! > > Ohio had a good, strong representation at PyCon this year. One thing we > agreed on is that The Time Has Come for PyOhio (or perhaps OhPyO, let's > figure that out). Imagine a daylong miniconference bringing people from > across the state and beyond. Let's do it! > > Pardon me for splicing you into our conversation like this, but here are > some of the thoughts we've been kicking around so far. > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM, David Stanek > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Catherine Devlin < > > catherine.devlin at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Suggestions I want to throw out for discussion - > > > > > > Name: PyOhio? I like that. Somebody (Kartic?) suggested OhPyO. As > > > soon as we've got the name we should carve out space on > > > wiki.python.org and ask about getting our own serious web space where > > > we can run an instance of the PyCon software; I think the PSF will give us > > > that. > > > > > > I can host it if we don't have anywhere else. Once we get a name I can > > register it and have a wiki up there in just a few minutes. > > > > Where: Columbus? It's much more likely to bring people from Cincinnati, > > > Athens, Dayton, etc. than Cleveland is. OTOH if Cleveland people can find a > > > good location first, maybe that'll be the decider. I'm planning to ping OSU > > > for space. > > > > > > Yep I agree. What do you think the cost would be? > > > > I'm hoping to do this on a no-cost basis, with donated space and > bring-your-own-brownbag lunch. Of course, if some lovely sponsor wants to > spring for lunch, I won't complain. > > So, who's interested in the glory and honor of hosting the very first > PyCon, in exchange for, um, glory and honor? Pete, would the Ohio > Supercomputing Center be interested in hosting us? How about our people out > at OSU? I can ping the OSU Open Source club, too. Maybe even the public > library. Other thoughts? > > When: Midsummer? That gives us a good distance from PyCon (March), > > > Penguicon (April), Ohio LinuxFest (September), and CodeMash (January). It > > > also gives us the best chance of securing space at a university, and I think > > > we can whip it together by then. Only problem is some peoples' vacations > > > may interfere. > > > > > > That sounds good, but my be short notice. If we don't think we can pull > > it together by then we can have it as an extension to LinuxFest (suggested > > by a NOOSS guy). > > > > That's certainly a possibility, although will OLF need to reserve > convention center space for extra time to accomodate us? Will that cost > them, will they want $ from us for that? Anybody here involved in OLF > organization? > > What do people think of freestanding vs. attached to OLF? > > > > How many people should we plan for? 50? 100? > > > > > > I think 100. Once we get a website up and running we can send emails to > > other Ohio-based groups and the the python-list. > > > > > > > BarCamp: I think we should have some conventional talks scheduled in > > > advance, too, b/c > > > 1. Many people might not come to something that seems experimental or > > > unfamiliar to them > > > 2. Future PyCon & CodeMash speakers can get practice > > > 3. Specific topics on schedule could lure attendees. > > > 4. Experts might travel further to join us if they have a formal > > > speaking slot > > > > > > However, if we can combine those with a BarCamp, I think that'd be > > > fantastic. Maybe a few traditional talks for the morning, followed by > > > BarCamp through the afternoon and into the night? > > > > > > I think that can work rather well. > > > > > > > We should move this conversation to clepy at googlegroups.com and > > > centralOH at python.org. In fact, we'll want a > > > pyohio-organizers at python.org and pyohio at python.org (for attendees) > > > eventually, too. > > > > > > Good point. Who do we talk to got those email addresses? > > > > I'll do that, as soon as we've got a name - I got centralOH at python.orgthat way. > > Thanks, everyone! > > -- > - Catherine > http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ > *** PyCon 2008 * Chicago * March 13-20 * us.pycon.org *** > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "clepy" group. > To post to this group, send email to clepy at googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clepy-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clepy?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/attachments/20080319/a0f91901/attachment-0001.htm From mhebrank at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 16:52:58 2008 From: mhebrank at gmail.com (Martin Hebrank) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:52:58 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] [clepy] PyOhio In-Reply-To: <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <133660950803190852r6fd5fd79ld2d2b9c2a1081c7d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Catherine Devlin wrote: > > That sounds good, but my be short notice. If we don't think we can pull > it together by then we can have it as an extension to LinuxFest (suggested > by a NOOSS guy). > > > > That's certainly a possibility, although will OLF need to reserve > convention center space for extra time to accomodate us? Will that cost > them, will they want $ from us for that? Anybody here involved in OLF > organization? > > What do people think of freestanding vs. attached to OLF? a) I'm the NOOSS guy. *waves* 2) I think "attached" is being misconstrued. I'm not saying it has to be orginizationally attached. Or, that the have to do anything for it (but if they can help out it would be great for us). I'm talking about temporally and spacially attached. So, just say October 10th or 12th in Columbus. Many people are probably already planning on being in Columbus for the event at that time. It simply seems to make sense to ride that wave and extend it to include Python. If there's anywhere in Columbus that'll host us for a day, and everyone can chip in to buy pizza then we can do it right then. If we can't find a place to host us, maybe we can chip in and get a conference room from a hotel in the area. Who knows, maybe we'll start a trend of mini OSS cons surrounding the event. ** Martin From catherine.devlin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 18:15:07 2008 From: catherine.devlin at gmail.com (Catherine Devlin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:15:07 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] [clepy] Re: PyOhio In-Reply-To: References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6523e39a0803191015h8e96ech443369884ed24c7f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Benjamin Smith wrote: > Another name suggestion.... Ohpy?! It's also fun to say with emphasis on > the OH. Hey! You're supposed to be narrowing it down, not broadening it out! No, seriously, I'm glad to see people involved in the conversation. But let's make up our minds quick, because we can't move forward on a bunch of things (mailing list, web space) until we have a namespace. So here's a place to vote on the name: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=7qpsVQlLkqhWVTJmQ6xRIA_3d_3d Note that, by voting, you incur a moral obligation to take at least some small part in making the miniconference happen. :) -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyCon 2008 * Chicago * March 13-20 * us.pycon.org *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/attachments/20080319/5ff5ab52/attachment.htm From steven_h at acm.org Thu Mar 20 00:38:24 2008 From: steven_h at acm.org (Steven Huwig) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:38:24 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio In-Reply-To: <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Catherine Devlin wrote: > > So, who's interested in the glory and honor of hosting the very > first PyCon, > in exchange for, um, glory and honor? Pete, would the Ohio > Supercomputing > Center be interested in hosting us? How about our people out at > OSU? I can > ping the OSU Open Source club, too. Maybe even the public > library. Other > thoughts? OCLC in Dublin has meeting facilities, and has at least a few people working with Python. That's about all the information I can contribute, though. Facilities: http://www.oclc.org/conferencecenter/default.htm Python: http://www.oclc.org/research/software/oai/2page.htm -- Steve From catherine.devlin at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 11:39:34 2008 From: catherine.devlin at gmail.com (Catherine Devlin) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:39:34 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio-organizers: please sign up! Message-ID: <6523e39a0803220339o443399adx10e0d880c486a7fd@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for taking part in the name survey, everybody! It looks like PyOhio it is, so I've started carving out some web space. 1. A mailing list for planning and organizing: PyOhio-organizers at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyohio-organizers Everyone with anything to say about PyOhio is strongly encouraged to join! Please sign yourself up at the website. 2. An announcement-only mailing list for potential future attendees of PyOhio: PyOhio at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyohio I'm signing up everybody on centralOH at python.org to PyOhio at python.org, because I know you'll all want to come. (You're welcome.) Dave or somebody, would you like to do the same for clepy folks? It should be very low-volume. 3. A wiki page for assembling notes: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyOhio Go to town, everybody! Pythonically yours, -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyCon 2008 * Chicago * March 13-20 * us.pycon.org *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/centraloh/attachments/20080322/664a94ff/attachment.htm From pete at osc.edu Mon Mar 24 14:51:15 2008 From: pete at osc.edu (Pete Carswell) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:51:15 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio In-Reply-To: References: <6523e39a0803181422labb2ccatb891e1e8da936cca@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190656y753a3965sa97bedbd7ea34c25@mail.gmail.com> <6523e39a0803190757m11cc455fv772298184566962c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E77993.A14A.0000.0@osc.edu> Hello Steve and fellow I apologize for not responding sooner as I have been busy moving residences. As I have not coordinated such an event, could anyone provide the pertinent information for PyCon? Number of attendiees? Dates and times? Anything else? I could take that to the people who give the ok and see if it is possible. pete >>> Steven Huwig 3/19/2008 7:38 PM >>> On Mar 19, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Catherine Devlin wrote: > > So, who's interested in the glory and honor of hosting the very > first PyCon, > in exchange for, um, glory and honor? Pete, would the Ohio > Supercomputing > Center be interested in hosting us? How about our people out at > OSU? I can > ping the OSU Open Source club, too. Maybe even the public > library. Other > thoughts? OCLC in Dublin has meeting facilities, and has at least a few people working with Python. That's about all the information I can contribute, though. Facilities: http://www.oclc.org/conferencecenter/default.htm Python: http://www.oclc.org/research/software/oai/2page.htm -- Steve _______________________________________________ CentralOH mailing list CentralOH at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh