[Catalog-sig] Deprecate External Links

Andreas Jung lists at zopyx.com
Thu Feb 28 16:18:46 CET 2013


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Reinout van Rees wrote:
> On 28-02-13 10:43, holger krekel wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 06:38 +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> 
>>> I give a shit at the arguments pulled out every time by package 
>>> maintainers using PyPI only for listing their packages. I am
>>> both annoyed and bothered by these people.
>> 
>> I didn't see such positions from package maintainers here.  In
>> fact i haven't seen anyone stepping up saying listing packages
>> externally is a great idea.  Could you point to those posts?
> 
> The position Andreas probably means is projects that *do* advertise 
> themselves on pypi, but don't put their files there.
> 
> I have seen that position in this discussion ("I have to upload 120 
> files per release, so I won't do that", for instance).
> 
> Some arguments might be valid, but these projects *are*, taken as
> one group, actively breaking pip and buildout regularly.
> 
> So I agree with Andreas. I don't really care about "the arguments
> pulled out every time". Effectively actively breaking pip and
> buildout is bad, period.


Amen

One last word: as integrator I am bothered when buildouts constantly
fail for a day because some external server is down. My coworkers are
annoyed because a dozen of Jenkins jobs suddenly fail because of some
external. I am annoyed explaining how cool Python is but having to
defeat it because other peoples server suck. Look at CPAN...working
reliably since the 90s..... and my tolerance level for externally hosted
packages is close to zero meanwhile. Once again: use PyPI and upload
your your package or stay away forever.

Andreas
server is down.
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