[Catalog-sig] PyPI pull request

[Daniel Greenfeld]

This is Martin and Richard's project. If they want to insist on
separate pull requests per feature being worked on, rather than having
to cherry pick and analyze each segment of code you submitted before
accepting it, then that's how they should do it. Of course they
haven't said anything yet, but I'm just saying it's up to them.

Also, the pattern I described to you fits very well within the
beautiful promise of DVCS. The cleaner branching and merging of DVCS
makes this sort of approach wonderful for all parties involved. Rather
than giant, monolithic pull requests with lots of tiny commits, they
get very easy to integrate pull requests.

Smaller, atomic pieces are much easier to handle then larger
multi-task components. Isn't that the promise of OOP and functional
programming? :-)

Danny

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:09 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> You're request and proposed action would be nice if it used Mercurial,
> but it uses Git + GitHub and have
> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi/pull-request/1/fix-imports-add-logging-to-console-inabsolutely
> no idea how to apply it to Mercurial + Bitbucket. If I understand you
> correctly for every 7 commits in queue I need to make a separate clone
> and commit it separately. That's far from the that beautiful promise
> DVCS made. =)
>
> All commits are available in pull request separately. If you take
> another look at
> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi/pull-request/1/fix-imports-add-logging-to-console-in
> you'll see there is an ongoing discussion over a questionable commit
> with Martin. Feel free to comment on any revision. I can rework them
> one by one on request if they are taking too much time to review.
>
> Your wish is valid and well understood, but for specific big features.
> For a series of small clean up changes such as this one this places a
> more constrain on the person submitting changes. So unless there is a
> comment that code is too complicated, I'd prefer to save this extra
> time to polishing other aspects.
>
> There are also 4 more commits in my copy waiting for this review to
> complete, which I deliberately doesn't add to this request to
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Greenfeld <pydanny at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anatoly,
>>
>> Here's a major issues with your pull request:
>>
>> It's not atomic enough. PyPI is a massive effort so any pull request
>> should be as small as possible. For example, "running without sentry
>> client" should be just a single pull request. By combining multiple
>> "actions" into one pull requests, you've made it harder for the PyPI
>> authors to evaluate your work. Which means they'll be less inclined to
>> review it.
>>
>> Break this up into 3 separate pull requests. It's easy to do with
>> branching, and the maintainers of the project will appreciate you for
>> it.
>>
>> In fact, one thing we did with Open Comparison
>> (http://djangopackages.com, http://pyramid.opencomparison.org, and
>> soon http://python.opencomparison.org) that as helped us a lot as
>> maintainers is write a formal contributing document that spells this
>> out and more. See:
>>
>> http://opencomparison.readthedocs.org/en/latest/contributing.html
>>
>> and in your case, specifically:
>>
>> http://opencomparison.readthedocs.org/en/latest/contributing.html#how-to-get-your-pull-request-accepted
>>
>> I suggest to Richard and Martin they adopt something similar. Or they
>> can use our contributing rules in the same manner as Read the Docs:
>>
>> https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/blob/master/docs/contribute.rst
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 2:21 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Anybody to merge my changes from
>>>> https://bitbucket.org/techtonik/pypi-techtonik ?
>>>
>>> Richard told me he is busy preparing for the PyCon AU and
>>> administering ongoing PyGame, so no help here.
>>> Martin told it will take time. So, anybody else at least to review and comment?
>>>
>>> https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi/pull-request/1/fix-imports-add-logging-to-console-in
>>>
>>> I also sent mail to PSF requesting a new `pydotorg` account on
>>> Bitbucket, so that there will be a permanent home for official mirror
>>> for PyPI that can be found using Bitbucket search along with other
>>> open repositories for web to send pull requests to.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile there few more clean up changes, one of which loosens
>>> dependency on M2Crypto, which is not installable in virtualenv if you
>>> don't have SWIG installed systemwide. Although it doesn't remove it
>>> completely yet. The goal is to make pycrypto an optional alternative
>>> for M2Crypto for an easy development.
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>>
>>
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